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* The Kusanagi Blade, Last Fencer, One World, and various other weapons from ''VideoGame/{{Tales of Symphonia}}'' gotten through various sidequests. They're more powerful than the weapons you get from the storyline, however the Devil's Arm have the potential to become the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}.
** Similar deal for ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia''. When looking at sheer strength, the Eternal Sword actually is the best weapon. But to get it you have to beat Cless (and possibly Arche) in the arena, which can be difficult if you don't know what you're doing or stacked up on Reverse Dolls. So some just settle for weapons that work like the Eternal Sword, like the Mystic Sword and Gaia Clever. Or the easy to get Last Fencer which is the true InfinityPlusOneSword in every aspect ''but'' sheer power...
** Also featured in ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. The Catalyst Weapons have the potential to become the game's {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s, but to unlock their power you have to beat the BonusBoss, who is so overpowered that the game is perfectly justified in not even letting you go into that battle without the bonuses of a NewGamePlus. Thus, if you ''have'' the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s, you don't ''need'' the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s. Most people prefer the weapons won from the Coliseum, or better yet, the weapons that unlock your characters' second-order [[LimitBreak Mystic Artes]].
*** To add insult to injury about the Catalyst Weapons, you can't fight ThatOneBoss to unlock them as {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s until you've completed a [[GuideDangIt horribly irritating]] puzzle in the final dungeon and seen the cutscene right before the final boss. While the coliseum prize weapons and the ones you can forge in Din's Shop may be statistically inferior, you can get them pretty much as soon as you unlock the coliseum (depending on your mastery of the battle system or what your NewGamePlus bonuses are) or get your GlobalAirship working, both of which happen reasonably early in the game.

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The Kusanagi Blade, Last Fencer, One World, and various other weapons from ''VideoGame/{{Tales of Symphonia}}'' gotten through various sidequests. They're more powerful than the weapons you get from the storyline, however the Devil's Arm have the potential to become the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}.
** Similar deal for ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia''. When looking at sheer strength, the Eternal Sword from ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' is actually is the best weapon. But to get it you have to beat Cless (and possibly Arche) in the arena, which can be difficult if you don't know what you're doing or stacked up on Reverse Dolls. So some just settle for weapons that work like the Eternal Sword, like the Mystic Sword and Gaia Clever. Or the easy to get Last Fencer which is the true InfinityPlusOneSword in every aspect ''but'' sheer power...
** Also featured in ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. The In ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'', the Catalyst Weapons have the potential to become the game's {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s, but to unlock their power you have to beat the BonusBoss, who is so overpowered that the game is perfectly justified in not even letting you go into that battle without the bonuses of a NewGamePlus. Thus, if you ''have'' the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s, you don't ''need'' the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s. Most people prefer the weapons won from the Coliseum, or better yet, the weapons that unlock your characters' second-order [[LimitBreak Mystic Artes]].
*** To add insult to injury about the Catalyst Weapons, you can't fight ThatOneBoss to unlock them as {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s until you've completed a [[GuideDangIt horribly irritating]] irritating puzzle in the final dungeon and seen the cutscene right before the final boss. While the coliseum prize weapons and the ones you can forge in Din's Shop may be statistically inferior, you can get them pretty much as soon as you unlock the coliseum (depending on your mastery of the battle system or what your NewGamePlus bonuses are) or get your GlobalAirship working, both of which happen reasonably early in the game.



* The grade seven Spectre Master Gear guns you can get on a first-time playthrough of ''Franchise/MassEffect'', as compared to the grade ten varieties that become available at around 50th level.

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The grade seven Spectre Master Gear guns you can get on a first-time playthrough of ''Franchise/MassEffect'', ''VideoGame/MassEffect1'', as compared to the grade ten varieties that become available at around 50th level.



* In the updated rerelease to ''VideoGame/{{Fable|I}}'', The Sword of Aeons falls under this. While it was the strongest in the game and so everybody put their worth into making sure they had it by the time the expansion came around, The Lost Chapters halved its attack power, and a few weapons beat it out now, most notably the Solus Greatsword. You can buy this weapon in a store, or even get it as a gift from your wife (if you married the Lady Grey) for free.

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* In the updated rerelease to ''VideoGame/{{Fable|I}}'', ''VideoGame/FableI'', The Sword of Aeons falls under this. While it was the strongest in the game and so everybody put their worth into making sure they had it by the time the expansion came around, The Lost Chapters halved its attack power, and a few weapons beat it out now, most notably the Solus Greatsword. You can buy this weapon in a store, or even get it as a gift from your wife (if you married the Lady Grey) for free.



* The Magicant Bat in ''Videogame/EarthBound'', because the best weapon, the [[RandomlyDrops all too rare]] [[InfinityPlusOneSword Gutsy Bat]], can only be obtained past the PointOfNoReturn. And the only way to return from that PointOfNoReturn is to use a glitch in the [[NoExportForYou GBA port]].

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* The Magicant Bat in ''Videogame/EarthBound'', because the best weapon, the [[RandomlyDrops [[RareRandomDrop all too rare]] [[InfinityPlusOneSword Gutsy Bat]], can only be obtained past the PointOfNoReturn. And the only way to return from that PointOfNoReturn is to use a glitch in the [[NoExportForYou GBA port]].



*** Master Sword aside, most characters (including Link with his other weapon types) require an excess amount of grinding to create a [[InfinityPlusOneSword perfect]] weapon. First you've got to get one with both the highest attack power and maximum skill slots, which unfortunately can only be obtained through [[RandomlyDrops Random Drops]]. Then you've got to find all the skills you want and probably transfer them over from other weapons, which requires you to grind both thousands of kills to unlock the skills and hundreds of thousands of rupees to transfer them over and delete unwanted skills off the perfect weapon. Oh, and did we mention there's over thirty different movesets in this game and you have to do this for every single one? For most players, it just isn't worth the time investment for the marginal improvement, except maybe for their favorite character. So for most characters you're just going to make do with whatever 5 star level 3 weapon you happen to have on hand, even though it's probably not optimal.

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*** Master Sword aside, most characters (including Link with his other weapon types) require an excess amount of grinding to create a [[InfinityPlusOneSword perfect]] weapon. First you've got to get one with both the highest attack power and maximum skill slots, which unfortunately can only be obtained through [[RandomlyDrops Random Drops]].RandomDrops. Then you've got to find all the skills you want and probably transfer them over from other weapons, which requires you to grind both thousands of kills to unlock the skills and hundreds of thousands of rupees to transfer them over and delete unwanted skills off the perfect weapon. Oh, and did we mention there's over thirty different movesets in this game and you have to do this for every single one? For most players, it just isn't worth the time investment for the marginal improvement, except maybe for their favorite character. So for most characters you're just going to make do with whatever 5 star level 3 weapon you happen to have on hand, even though it's probably not optimal.



* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', on one hand, has the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}} Goldbrand, which deal a ludicrously gigantic punch but is also ludicrously ''hard'' to get (and upgrading it to Eltonbrand ''absolutely'' [[GuideDangIt requires reading a guide]]). On the other hand, there are the much easier to find, still quite powerful weapons Umbra -- provided you can find and kill the Orc, Magebane -- a glass claymore which lies within the Urshilaku burial and can be taken with just a telekinesis or levitate spell, and the Scourge mace, which lies in one of the main quest destinations and only needs a powerful unlock scroll and bit of stealth skill to get. Alternatively, once you've leveled enough, you can simply kill monsters in shrines or in the Grazelands until you find a Daedric sword, or you can train your Conjuration skill so you can summon Daedric swords all the time.

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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', on one hand, has the {{Infinity Plus One Sword}} InfinityPlusOneSword Goldbrand, which deal a ludicrously gigantic punch but is also ludicrously ''hard'' to get (and upgrading it to Eltonbrand ''absolutely'' [[GuideDangIt requires reading a guide]]). On the other hand, there are the much easier to find, still quite powerful weapons Umbra -- provided you can find and kill the Orc, Magebane -- a glass claymore which lies within the Urshilaku burial and can be taken with just a telekinesis or levitate spell, and the Scourge mace, which lies in one of the main quest destinations and only needs a powerful unlock scroll and bit of stealth skill to get. Alternatively, once you've leveled enough, you can simply kill monsters in shrines or in the Grazelands until you find a Daedric sword, or you can train your Conjuration skill so you can summon Daedric swords all the time.



** For Edgar and Mog, the Holy Lance. High power, boosts magic, randomly casts [[HolyHandGrenade Holy]], and only outperformed by spears acquired in the final dungeon and bonus dungeon.

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** For Edgar and Mog, the Holy Lance. High power, boosts magic, randomly casts [[HolyHandGrenade Holy]], {{Holy|HandGrenade}}, and only outperformed by spears acquired in the final dungeon and bonus dungeon.



* In ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaPortraitOfRuin'', you're almost sure to pick up a Long Spear on your first visit to the Nation of Fools (high [[RandomlyDrops drop rate]]). Its high power and speed will get you through a large part of the game. Later on, the Vampire Killer itself takes on this role -- it's not one of the game's several {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s and you don't have to go out of your way to get it (just beat ThatOneBoss), but many players stick with it for its ease of use and handy elemental attributes.

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* In ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaPortraitOfRuin'', you're almost sure to pick up a Long Spear on your first visit to the Nation of Fools (high [[RandomlyDrops drop RandomDrop rate]]). Its high power and speed will get you through a large part of the game. Later on, the Vampire Killer itself takes on this role -- it's not one of the game's several {{Infinity Plus One Sword}}s and you don't have to go out of your way to get it (just beat ThatOneBoss), but many players stick with it for its ease of use and handy elemental attributes.



* Oddly enough, ''VideoGame/{{SaGa 3}}'' (aka ''Final Fantasy Legend 3'') forces you to get the InfinityPlusOneSword, but you have to quest to find the other three mythic weapons. The #2 blade would be the Masamune, which is found as the Muramasa and misses every time you use it until uncursed by your party's smith back at your time-travelling stealth jet. The game also features spell synthesis: the best spell is Flare and requires two Fire Stones, but there are only 4. Combining a Fire Stone with any other stone gives you an elemental spell that's almost just as good, but lets you get enough spells for everyone.

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* Oddly enough, ''VideoGame/{{SaGa 3}}'' ''VideoGame/SaGa3'' (aka ''Final Fantasy Legend 3'') forces you to get the InfinityPlusOneSword, but you have to quest to find the other three mythic weapons. The #2 blade would be the Masamune, which is found as the Muramasa and misses every time you use it until uncursed by your party's smith back at your time-travelling stealth jet. The game also features spell synthesis: the best spell is Flare and requires two Fire Stones, but there are only 4. Combining a Fire Stone with any other stone gives you an elemental spell that's almost just as good, but lets you get enough spells for everyone.



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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblem: [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]]'', you can buy a Beast Killer knife for [[CrutchCharacter Sothe]] as early as chapter 1-4. While this immediately comes in handy on that same chapter (which is filled with beast laguz, and the Beast Killer does ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin), you'll quickly find that the beast-killing is just a bonus. It has a Might of 9, which is a lot for a knife weapon (only three of them have a Might over 10), and a Crit of 20 (only the rare Killer weapons offer more than that, and as there is no Killer knife, well...) Its only weakness is its low Hit%, which doesn't matter for Sothe who is virtually guaranteed to hit everything anyway. Considering that you don't get the second-best knife until Endgame, and don't get the best unless [[GuideDangIt you know what you're doing]] (and on a chapter very close to Endgame anyway), odds are that the Beast Killer will be Sothe's best weapon for a long, long time.

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In ''VideoGame/FireEmblem: [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Radiant Dawn]]'', you can buy a Beast Killer knife for [[CrutchCharacter Sothe]] as early as chapter 1-4. While this immediately comes in handy on that same chapter (which is filled with beast laguz, and the Beast Killer does ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin), you'll quickly find that the beast-killing is just a bonus. It has a Might of 9, which is a lot for a knife weapon (only three of them have a Might over 10), and a Crit of 20 (only the rare Killer weapons offer more than that, and as there is no Killer knife, well...) Its only weakness is its low Hit%, which doesn't matter for Sothe who is virtually guaranteed to hit everything anyway. Considering that you don't get the second-best knife until Endgame, and don't get the best unless [[GuideDangIt you know what you're doing]] (and on a chapter very close to Endgame anyway), odds are that the Beast Killer will be Sothe's best weapon for a long, long time.



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** In [[FireEmblemJugdral Thracia 776]] we have a few more:

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** In [[FireEmblemElibe The Binding Blade]], you can get a few of the legendary weapons a lot earlier, unlike in ''Blazing Sword''. Most notable is Durandal which is obtained in Chapter 8x and can be wielded by anyone with an S rank in swords. Be ccareful though, it only has 20 uses and it cannot run out of uses if you want to access the true ending.

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** In [[FireEmblemElibe ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe The Binding Blade]], Blade]]'', you can get a few of the legendary weapons a lot earlier, unlike in ''Blazing Sword''. Most notable is Durandal which is obtained in Chapter 8x and can be wielded by anyone with an S rank in swords. Be ccareful though, it only has 20 uses and it cannot run out of uses if you want to access the true ending.



** The Falchion in ''Fire Emblem Awakening'' isn't exactly the most powerful of swords, but it's still an adequate weapon on the field for Chrom, it's available from the start of the game, it does extra damage against dragon enemies, and most importantly, it ''never breaks''. [[spoiler:Lucina's]] Parallel Falchion fits the trope even better, as it has a Might of 12 (one point greater than the Silver Sword), a Hit Rate of 80%, and a 5% crit boost plus the same dragon-smiting abilities and unbreakable nature as the Falchion and the ability to use it like an item for an effective 20 HP recovery. The only requirement to get it is to complete Chapter 13 to gain access to the character who has it.

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** The Falchion in ''Fire Emblem Awakening'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' isn't exactly the most powerful of swords, but it's still an adequate weapon on the field for Chrom, it's available from the start of the game, it does extra damage against dragon enemies, and most importantly, it ''never breaks''. [[spoiler:Lucina's]] Parallel Falchion fits the trope even better, as it has a Might of 12 (one point greater than the Silver Sword), a Hit Rate of 80%, and a 5% crit boost plus the same dragon-smiting abilities and unbreakable nature as the Falchion and the ability to use it like an item for an effective 20 HP recovery. The only requirement to get it is to complete Chapter 13 to gain access to the character who has it.



* ''{{Freelancer}}'''s level-9 guns. These guns are often something you can buy in any quantity from the faction that uses them[[note]]or get as [[RandomlyDrops combat drops]] if that faction [[AllianceMeter hates you]][[/note]], whereas the level-10 guns can only be obtained by finding and looting far-flung {{Derelict Graveyard}}s or fighting [[TheDreaded Nomads]], and furthermore can only be mounted on the three [[LevelLockedLoot highest-level ships]].

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* ''{{Freelancer}}'''s ''VideoGame/{{Freelancer}}'''s level-9 guns. These guns are often something you can buy in any quantity from the faction that uses them[[note]]or get as [[RandomlyDrops [[RandomDrops combat drops]] if that faction [[AllianceMeter hates you]][[/note]], whereas the level-10 guns can only be obtained by finding and looting far-flung {{Derelict Graveyard}}s or fighting [[TheDreaded Nomads]], and furthermore can only be mounted on the three [[LevelLockedLoot highest-level ships]].



* Not trying to be punny with the game name, ''VideoGame/Rockman4MinusInfinity'' has a lot of weapons you can get from the Robot Masters that makes the [[VideoGame/MegaMan2 Metal Blade]] look nerfed.

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* Not trying to be punny with the game name, ''VideoGame/Rockman4MinusInfinity'' has a lot of weapons you can get from the Robot Masters that makes the [[VideoGame/MegaMan2 Metal Blade]] look nerfed.
19th Aug '16 5:49:33 PM Yalsaris63
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*** Speaking of shotguns, the Armsel in ''Call of Pripyat'' is one of the most powerful general-purpose bullet-spitters in the whole game. It's unstoppable with the right mods (particularly [[MoreDakka the full-auto]] upgrade) and anything that isn't a Chimera, a Pseudogiant or a goon in an Exoskeleton will die quickly before it, and shotgun shells are dirt cheap. The only issue is the strenuous reload. How do you get one? You can either get one in the first area by doing some artifact-hunting for a couple hours and buying one from Nimble, or get one in the second area by [[AssholeVictim shooting the Bandit leader Jack in the face]] and swiping his.

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*** Speaking of shotguns, the Armsel in ''Call of Pripyat'' is one of the most powerful general-purpose bullet-spitters in the whole game. It's unstoppable with the right mods (particularly [[MoreDakka the full-auto]] upgrade) and anything that isn't a Chimera, a Pseudogiant Pseudogiant, or a goon in an Exoskeleton will die quickly before it, and shotgun shells are dirt cheap. The only issue is the strenuous reload. How do you get one? You can either get one in the first area by doing some artifact-hunting for a couple hours and buying one from Nimble, or get one in the second area by [[AssholeVictim shooting the Bandit leader Jack in the face]] and swiping his.
19th Aug '16 5:48:55 PM Yalsaris63
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*** Speaking of shotguns, the Armsel in ''Call of Pripyat'' is one of the most powerful general-purpose bullet-spitters in the whole game. It's unstoppable with the right mods (particularly [[MoreDakka the full-auto]] upgrade) and anything that isn't a Chimera, a Pseudogiant or a goon in an Exoskeleton will die quickly before it, and shotgun shells are dirt cheap. The only issue is the strenous reload. How do you get one? You can either get one in the first area by doing some artifact-hunting for a couple hours and buying one from Nimble, or get one in the second area by [[AssholeVictim shooting the Bandit leader Jack in the face]] and swiping his.

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*** Speaking of shotguns, the Armsel in ''Call of Pripyat'' is one of the most powerful general-purpose bullet-spitters in the whole game. It's unstoppable with the right mods (particularly [[MoreDakka the full-auto]] upgrade) and anything that isn't a Chimera, a Pseudogiant or a goon in an Exoskeleton will die quickly before it, and shotgun shells are dirt cheap. The only issue is the strenous strenuous reload. How do you get one? You can either get one in the first area by doing some artifact-hunting for a couple hours and buying one from Nimble, or get one in the second area by [[AssholeVictim shooting the Bandit leader Jack in the face]] and swiping his.
19th Aug '16 5:48:40 PM Yalsaris63
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*** Speaking of shotguns, the Armsel in ''Call of Pripyat'' is one of the most powerful general-purpose bullet-spitters in the whole game. It's unstoppable with the right mods (particularly [[MoreDakka the full-auto]] upgrade) and anything that isn't a Chimera, a Pseudogiant or a goon in an Exoskeleton will die quickly before it, and shotgun shells are dirt cheap. The only issueis the strenous reload. How do you get one? You can either get one in the first area by doing some artifact-hunting for a couple hours and buying one from Nimble, or get one in the second area by [[AssholeVictim shooting the Bandit leader Jack in the face]] and swiping his.

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*** Speaking of shotguns, the Armsel in ''Call of Pripyat'' is one of the most powerful general-purpose bullet-spitters in the whole game. It's unstoppable with the right mods (particularly [[MoreDakka the full-auto]] upgrade) and anything that isn't a Chimera, a Pseudogiant or a goon in an Exoskeleton will die quickly before it, and shotgun shells are dirt cheap. The only issueis issue is the strenous reload. How do you get one? You can either get one in the first area by doing some artifact-hunting for a couple hours and buying one from Nimble, or get one in the second area by [[AssholeVictim shooting the Bandit leader Jack in the face]] and swiping his.
11th Aug '16 9:07:49 AM htuttle
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* ''{{X-COM}}: Terror From The Deep'' has Gauss weapons become this until you engineer Sonic Weapons. Sonic weapons are accurate, but have no auto-fire, and, while they make great snipers, are useless in closer quarters combat, which is where the Gauss excels due to its relatively high speed and power.

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* ''{{X-COM}}: Terror From The Deep'' ''VideoGame/XComTerrorFromTheDeep'' has Gauss weapons become this until you engineer Sonic Weapons. Sonic weapons are accurate, but have no auto-fire, and, while they make great snipers, are useless in closer quarters combat, which is where the Gauss excels due to its relatively high speed and power.



** The first game has the humble [[FrickinLaserBeams Laser Rifle]]. Easily obtainable within the first month, cheap, accurate, with respectable stopping power, and it has ''infinite ammo'', a godsend in holding back the dreaded [[ArbitraryHeadcountLimit 80-item limit]]. As an added bonus, it's a required stop upon the research tree to Laser Cannons, which are the InfinityMinusOneSword for your ships (and pocketbook).

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** The [[VideoGame/XCOMUFODefense first game game]] has the humble [[FrickinLaserBeams Laser Rifle]]. Easily obtainable within the first month, cheap, accurate, with respectable stopping power, and it has ''infinite ammo'', a godsend in holding back the dreaded [[ArbitraryHeadcountLimit 80-item limit]]. As an added bonus, it's a required stop upon the research tree to Laser Cannons, which are the InfinityMinusOneSword for your ships (and pocketbook).
16th Jul '16 9:36:07 AM petersohn
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It's not the InfinityPlusOneSword. StatisticallySpeaking, it's not as good. It's not necessarily the SwordOfPlotAdvancement either (although it could be). And yet, you find people using it for most of the game, despite not being the actual "best" weapon available. Perhaps the InfinityPlusOneSword is [[GuideDangIt too hard to get]], and the SwordOfPlotAdvancement [[EleventhHourSuperpower doesn't show up until five minutes before the]] FinalBoss fight. Often, however, the Infinity Minus One is available at any shop for the whole party to use, whereas there is only one of the InfinityPlusOneSword. Or that sword is a BraggingRightsReward, while this sword is useful in ''getting'' that reward.

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It's not the InfinityPlusOneSword. StatisticallySpeaking, it's not as good. It's not necessarily the SwordOfPlotAdvancement either (although it could be). And yet, you find people using it for most of the game, despite not being the actual "best" weapon available. Perhaps the InfinityPlusOneSword is [[GuideDangIt too hard to get]], and the SwordOfPlotAdvancement [[EleventhHourSuperpower doesn't show up until [[EleventhHourSuperpower five minutes before the]] before]] the FinalBoss fight. Often, however, the Infinity Minus One is available at any shop for the whole party to use, whereas there is only one of the InfinityPlusOneSword. Or that sword is a BraggingRightsReward, while this sword is useful in ''getting'' that reward.
11th Jul '16 2:30:03 PM thatmadork
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*** Speaking of shotguns, the Armsel in ''Call of Pripyat'' is one of the most powerful general-purpose bullet-spitters in the whole game. It's unstoppable with the right mods (particularly [[MoreDakka the full-auto]] upgrade) and anything that isn't a Chimera, a Pseudogiant or a goon in an Exoskeleton will die quickly before it, and shotgun shells are dirt cheap. The only issueis the strenous reload. How do you get one? You can either get one in the first area by doing some artifact-hunting for a couple hours and buying one from Nimble, or get one in the second area by [[AssholeVictim shooting the Bandit leader Jack in the face]] and swiping his.
25th Jun '16 9:19:53 PM nombretomado
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* Lilarcor in ''BaldursGate 2'' is a bit like this: You get it early, it's +3 and has some useful special abilities [[EmpathicWeapon (and it's sentient)]] usually you keep it around for most of the game (since Carsomyr is paladin-only and the demon sword has nasty side-effects).

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Lilarcor in ''BaldursGate 2'' is a bit like this: You get it early, it's +3 and has some useful special abilities [[EmpathicWeapon (and it's sentient)]] usually you keep it around for most of the game (since Carsomyr is paladin-only and the demon sword has nasty side-effects).
22nd Jun '16 8:05:34 PM JM1982
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' has Steiner's Ragnarok sword. His best weapon, Excalibur 2, is difficult to obtain to the point of being a BraggingRightsReward--it is found only in one single spot in the final dungeon, but only if you can get there in under twelve hours. This means a lot of missed content and rushing through the entire game for a weapon that is simply not worth the hassle.

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* Subverted in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' has by Steiner's Ragnarok sword. His best "best" weapon, Excalibur 2, is difficult to obtain to the point of being a BraggingRightsReward--it is found only in one single spot in the final dungeon, but only if you can get there in under twelve hours. This means a lot of missed content and rushing through the entire game for a weapon that is simply not worth the hassle. If you play the game normally, the Ragnarok will be the most powerful sword you can get for Steiner, making it his ''real'' InfinityPlusOneSword.



** Steiner's Excalibur sword is something of an Infinity Minus Two sword, if such a thing exists. If you skipped out on Chocobo Hot and Cold and didn't get the Ragnarok, you can obtain the Excalibur with enough gil, a ChainOfDeals and a FetchQuest. The Excalibur is an excellent weapon on its own, and teaches a very good ability in Climhazzard. Shock, the ability Steiner gets from the Ragnarok, is quite frankly [[GameBreaker overkill]] in most situations, and since the damage {{cap}} doesn't go past 9999 and Shock will do that to almost any enemy unless Steiner is horribly underleveled, the only benefit Excalibur 2 would give him is maybe saving some MP in the long run, which isn't an issue by the time you have access to Shock.

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** Steiner's Excalibur sword is something of an Infinity Minus Two sword, if such a thing exists. In terms of stats, it's third-best overall, but as noted above the Ragnarok is Steiner's true InfinityPlusOneSword. If you skipped out on Chocobo Hot and Cold and didn't get the Ragnarok, you can obtain the Excalibur with enough gil, a ChainOfDeals and a FetchQuest. The Excalibur is an excellent weapon on its own, is Steiner's real InfinityMinusOneSword, and teaches a very good ability in Climhazzard. Shock, the ability Steiner gets from the Ragnarok, is quite frankly [[GameBreaker overkill]] in most situations, and since the damage {{cap}} doesn't go past 9999 and Shock will do that to almost any enemy unless Steiner is horribly underleveled, the only benefit Excalibur 2 would give him is maybe saving some MP in the long run, which isn't an issue by the time you have access to Shock.
12th Jun '16 4:33:30 AM Foton
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* A curious example of a weapon both fulfilling this trope ''and'' ''Main/InfinityPlusOneSword'' is Sora's Blades from ''[[VideoGame/DotHackR1Games [=.hack//Outbreak=]]]''. To elaborate, while each of the .hack Quadrilogy features their own version of Infinity Plus One Swords obtainable only through post-game dungeons, Outbreak features a ''Anime/DotHackSign'' reference quest in which you rescue Sora (or at least, his apparition) from Skeith's wand, referring to the last SIGN episode. As a reward, you are given the eponymous Sora's Blades. While its raw stats aren't as good as the game's purported Infinity +1 Sword, its status effect Death reduces a target's HP to 10% and triggers randomly on every non-Skill hit. It is so effective that it functions as Outbreak's true Infinity +1 Sword. Even better, it carries over to Quarantine, the last of the Quadrilogy, where it becomes this trope, as even the strongest weapons on Volume 4 cannot match the brokenness of Death effect.
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