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17th Oct '17 1:16:51 PM KeithM
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* Played with in the ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' series. The flavor text describing important features of planets you come across or background information that's provided form clues about what's really happening (such as records showing former civilizations having disappeared at roughly 50,000 year intervals, and a reference to a massive kinetic weapon strike which later turns out to have been used by Cerberus to find dead Reaper) and you'll run across characters, such as the apparently nutty scientist you first encounter right at the start of the first game, who make statements that, in retrospect, turn out to be true. On the other hand, sometimes it is just nutty babble. One planet entry mentions a volus excavating a planet looking for "beings of light" to fight against creatures of darkness he saw coming. This led players to anticipate that at some point these entities would turn out to be real and would be used against the Reapers, but it turns out that no, he really was just a nut.
23rd Sep '17 11:35:53 AM SeptimusHeap
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* This is an actual magic power in {{Xanth}}. Princess Ida's magical talent is the "idea"; anything she believes is true [[RealityWarper becomes true]]. Provided that the idea came to her from someone who does ''not'' know about her abilities. So if you can trick someone who is unfamiliar with her to engage in this trope, the babble will in fact be infallible.

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* This is an actual magic power in {{Xanth}}.''Literature/{{Xanth}}''. Princess Ida's magical talent is the "idea"; anything she believes is true [[RealityWarper becomes true]]. Provided that the idea came to her from someone who does ''not'' know about her abilities. So if you can trick someone who is unfamiliar with her to engage in this trope, the babble will in fact be infallible.
18th Sep '17 3:19:01 AM Doug86
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* Creator/RobertEHoward's Literature/ConanTheBarbarian:

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* Creator/RobertEHoward's Literature/ConanTheBarbarian:Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian:
1st Jul '17 6:12:32 PM Woggs123
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** If asked for his take on Carla Boone's "disappearance," he'll spout some BlackComedy philosophy about how everyone's a little crazy; his opinion being that anyone who doesn't act eccentric from time to time is hiding an eccentricity even their own mother couldn't forgive. If the player keeps this in mind during their investigation, and thoroughly searches the home of the only creepily-polite resident of Novac, they will find the physical evidence needed for a sure-fire [[BoomHeadshot "conviction"]].
14th Jun '17 9:05:07 PM Mhazard
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Contrasts TreacherousAdvisor and TreacherousQuestGiver, who often misguide you with false information.
11th Jun '17 9:11:51 PM nombretomado
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* ''YggdraUnion''. Very, very early in the game, when you're touring the lands of your allies who just so happen to be embroiled in civil wars, you always hear one NPC mention a "wandering magician" who made a small contribution to the chaos. During the game's final chapter, [[spoiler:Nessiah]] says hello.

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* ''YggdraUnion''.''VideoGame/YggdraUnion''. Very, very early in the game, when you're touring the lands of your allies who just so happen to be embroiled in civil wars, you always hear one NPC mention a "wandering magician" who made a small contribution to the chaos. During the game's final chapter, [[spoiler:Nessiah]] says hello.
20th May '17 3:03:07 PM nombretomado
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* Averted in VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines, especially with the various vampire characters and their minions. Almost everyone you meet is trying to manipulate your actions and influence your opinions in various directions based on their agendas. Even relatively benign vampires have plenty of cause to deceive and control you, even if it's just to learn more about you - or for a laugh.

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* Averted in VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines, ''VideoGame/VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines'', especially with the various vampire characters and their minions. Almost everyone you meet is trying to manipulate your actions and influence your opinions in various directions based on their agendas. Even relatively benign vampires have plenty of cause to deceive and control you, even if it's just to learn more about you - or for a laugh.
13th Apr '17 2:03:14 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** The cursed ring was a stretch, but there isn't much else the snitch could have been for, particularly since it was implied it would "open", and was therefore containing a plot gizmo. Looks like a case of GenreSavvy.

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*** The cursed ring was a stretch, but there isn't much else the snitch could have been for, particularly since it was implied it would "open", and was therefore containing a plot gizmo. Looks like a case of GenreSavvy.



** It can sometimes border on subversion, however; a resident is complaining about cattle mutilations, and No-Bark is the only person who has apparently encountered one of the culprits. No-Bark's theory is completely and utterly insane ("It was the work of the chupacabra, I know it! But people don't believe me! 'There's too many holes in the cows', they say, 'and there's bullets in them!") However, the ''specifics'' of what he cites as evidence are more than enough to let a GenreSavvy player know who the culprits really are.

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** It can sometimes border on subversion, however; a resident is complaining about cattle mutilations, and No-Bark is the only person who has apparently encountered one of the culprits. No-Bark's theory is completely and utterly insane ("It was the work of the chupacabra, I know it! But people don't believe me! 'There's too many holes in the cows', they say, 'and there's bullets in them!") However, the ''specifics'' of what he cites as evidence are more than enough to let a GenreSavvy player know who the culprits really are.
26th Mar '17 2:07:55 PM nombretomado
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* ''OgreBattle'' subverts this with Sirius. You encounter Sirius at the beginning of the Lake Jannenia level, and he tells you that the local boss is great, he's thinking about joining your rebellion, and it's best to visit him at night. However, doing so is an incredibly bad idea: [[spoiler:the local boss turns out to be Sirius, who is actually a werewolf.]] Played straight in that other people you talk to will mention odd things that hint at what's behind the spoiler (one hidden town will flat out tell you what's going on, but the rest merely hint at it).
** Also averted in the Valley of Kastro. There's a recruitable character there, and every town you visit has a different description of that character. Even the most accurate description doesn't describe that character properly (since the character is described as a member of one class, but is actually a member of another and just considered one of the first class in spirit).

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* ''OgreBattle'' subverts this ''VideoGame/OgreBattle'':
** Subverted
with Sirius. You encounter Sirius at the beginning of the Lake Jannenia level, and he tells you that the local boss is great, he's thinking about joining your rebellion, and it's best to visit him at night. However, doing so is an incredibly bad idea: [[spoiler:the local boss turns out to be Sirius, who is actually a werewolf.]] Played straight in that other people you talk to will mention odd things that hint at what's behind the spoiler (one hidden town will flat out tell you what's going on, but the rest merely hint at it).
** Also averted Averted in the Valley of Kastro. There's a recruitable character there, and every town you visit has a different description of that character. Even the most accurate description doesn't describe that character properly (since the character is described as a member of one class, but is actually a member of another and just considered one of the first class in spirit).
20th Feb '17 7:45:56 PM CosmicFerret
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* The infamous story of the [[http://www.blindpanic.com/humor/vecna.htm Head of Vecna]] is an {{Aversion}}. In the tale, a DM for DungeonsAndDragons was playing two groups of players against each other. The first group had the idea to come up with a rumor of a third example of one of Vecna's magical remains (the Eye and Hand being objects that grant you their power if you remove your own eye or hand and replace them with the ArtifactOfDoom). The rumor was given to the local townsfolk and was then overheard by Group Two, who then marched their way into the dungeon where a fake head was placed and attempted to graft it on to one of their numbers by [[OffWithHisHead decapitating themselves.]] HilarityEnsues.

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* The infamous story of the [[http://www.blindpanic.com/humor/vecna.htm Head of Vecna]] is an {{Aversion}}. In the tale, a DM for DungeonsAndDragons ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' was playing two groups of players against each other. The first group had the idea to come up with a rumor of a third example of one of Vecna's magical remains (the Eye and Hand being objects that grant you their power if you remove your own eye or hand and replace them with the ArtifactOfDoom). The rumor was given to the local townsfolk and was then overheard by Group Two, who then marched their way into the dungeon where a fake head was placed and attempted to graft it on to one of their numbers by [[OffWithHisHead decapitating themselves.]] HilarityEnsues.
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