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7th Feb '18 1:32:28 AM Shadowgazer
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He may not necessarily be [[StupidCrooks entirely inept]] or have a [[PokeThePoodle laughably mild idea of what counts as villainy]]. VillainDecay is usually too simple an explanation. This is sometimes a relative situation, and the hero's RoguesGallery just happens to include people more showy, better financed, or just plain scarier than him. These guys are why people are found RootingForTheEmpire. The defining feature of such a villain is his gullibility: they are more often than not pitted against a [[TheTrickster Trickster]] who easily bamboozles them and leads them on their defeat, while it is obvious to the viewers that they should know better than listen to and believe their intended victim. Another way to showcase their stupidity is by making them foil their own plans and [[TooDumbToLive even die or get injured due to their own mistakes]].

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He may not necessarily be [[StupidCrooks entirely inept]] or have a [[PokeThePoodle laughably mild idea of what counts as villainy]]. VillainDecay is usually too simple an explanation. This is sometimes a relative situation, and the hero's RoguesGallery just happens to include people more showy, better financed, or just plain scarier than him. These guys are why people are found RootingForTheEmpire. The A defining feature of such a villain is his gullibility: they are more often than not pitted against a [[TheTrickster Trickster]] who easily bamboozles them and leads them on their defeat, while it is obvious to the viewers that they should know better than listen to and believe their intended victim. Another A considerable number of them tend to be [[TheKlutz Klutzes]] who are [[HoistByHisOwnPetard likely to fall in their own traps]] thanks to poor judgement, underestimating their foes to a ludicrous extent and/or failure to think ahead or pay any attention to their surroundings. And it is a usual way to showcase their stupidity is by making them foil screw up their own plans and [[TooDumbToLive even die or get injured due to their own mistakes]].
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22nd Dec '17 2:12:40 AM Shadowgazer
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This does not mean that he doesn't bear animosity; that's a PunchClockVillain. He's probably jumping at the opportunity to outdo his rivals and the hero. But there is something about his perseverance or attitude about the whole thing that is [[AntiVillain just short of sympathetic.]]

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This does not mean that he doesn't bear animosity; that's a PunchClockVillain. He's probably jumping at the opportunity to outdo his rivals and the hero. But there is something about his perseverance or attitude about the whole thing that is [[AntiVillain [[JerkassWoobie just short of sympathetic.]]



The EvilCounterpart to FailureHero. Arguably a subtrope of BoisterousWeakling. Supertrope to TheFamilyForTheWholeFamily, which specifically requires the villain to be incompetent and their likely threat level sans said incompetence to be that of a KnightOfCerebus. A character who acts like a villain while genuinely not wanting to do anything truly evil is a HarmlessVillain. Contrast CompleteMonster, where we instead have an utterly nasty, dangerous, and unsympathetic villain with no moral qualms.

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The EvilCounterpart to FailureHero. Arguably a subtrope of BoisterousWeakling. Supertrope to TheFamilyForTheWholeFamily, which specifically requires the villain to be incompetent and their likely threat level sans said incompetence to be that of a KnightOfCerebus. A character who acts like a villain while genuinely not wanting to do anything truly evil is a HarmlessVillain. Contrast CompleteMonster, where we instead have an utterly nasty, dangerous, and unsympathetic villain with no moral qualms.
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29th Sep '17 10:52:11 AM StFan
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* The Metarex of ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' become this trope thanks to flanderization and VillainDecay. This is notably averted with Eggman, who has taken [[TookALevelInBadass several levels in badass]].
* In ''WebVideo/GravityFallsDeepWoods'', Jeff (leader of the gnomes) becomes one after losing the gnomes' support. While he never was the biggest threat in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', he still was of the NotSoHarmlessVillain kind. Here, he becomes so ineffectual [[spoiler:that Pacifica is able to defeat him and his four buddies all by herself]]. The heroes actually spend the second part of ''Quest for the Northwest'' [[spoiler:helping him regain his lost leadership out of pity]].

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* The Metarex of ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' ''Fanfic/SonicXDarkChaos'' become this trope thanks to flanderization and VillainDecay. This is notably averted with Eggman, who has taken [[TookALevelInBadass several levels in badass]].
* In ''WebVideo/GravityFallsDeepWoods'', ''WebAnimation/GravityFallsDeepWoods'', Jeff (leader of the gnomes) becomes one after losing the gnomes' support. While he never was the biggest threat in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', he still was of the NotSoHarmlessVillain kind. Here, he becomes so ineffectual [[spoiler:that Pacifica is able to defeat him and his four buddies all by herself]]. The heroes actually spend the second part of ''Quest for the Northwest'' [[spoiler:helping him regain his lost leadership out of pity]].



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15th Jul '17 5:09:08 AM rufusluciusivan
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* In ''WebVideo/GravityFallsDeepWoods'', Jeff (leader of the gnomes) becomes one after losing the gnomes' support. While he never was the biggest threat in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', he still was of the NotSoHarmlessVillain kind. Here, he becomes so ineffectual [[spoiler:that Pacifica is able to defeat him and his four buddies all by herself]]. The heroes actually spend the second part of ''Quest for the Northwest'' [[spoiler:helping him regain his lost leadership out of pity]].
22nd Jun '17 6:18:49 PM CyberTiger88
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->''"I don't know whether we should pound him or buy him an ice cream cone."''
-->-- '''Michelangelo''', ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012''
10th Apr '17 2:54:22 PM TimeLordVictorious
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The EvilCounterpart to FailureHero. Arguably a subtrope of BoisterousWeakling. Supertrope to TheFamilyForTheWholeFamily, which specifically requires the villain to be incompetent and their likely threat level sans said incompetence to be that of a KnightOfCerebus. A character who acts like a villain while genuinely not wanting to do anything truly evil is a HarmlessVillain.

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The EvilCounterpart to FailureHero. Arguably a subtrope of BoisterousWeakling. Supertrope to TheFamilyForTheWholeFamily, which specifically requires the villain to be incompetent and their likely threat level sans said incompetence to be that of a KnightOfCerebus. A character who acts like a villain while genuinely not wanting to do anything truly evil is a HarmlessVillain. \n Contrast CompleteMonster, where we instead have an utterly nasty, dangerous, and unsympathetic villain with no moral qualms.
11th Mar '17 8:23:12 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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He may not necessarily be [[StupidCrooks entirely inept]] or have a [[PokeThePoodle laughably mild idea of what counts as villainy]]. VillainDecay is usually too simple an explanation. This is sometimes a relative situation, and the hero's RoguesGallery just happens to include people more showy, better financed, or just plain scarier than him. These guys are why people are found RootingForTheEmpire. The defining feature of such a villain is his gullibility: they are more often than not pitted against a Trickster who easily bamboozles them and leads them on their defeat, while it is obvious to the viewers that they should know better than listen to and believe their intended victim. Another way to showcase their stupidity is by making them foil their own plans and [[TooDumbToLive even die or get injured due to their own mistakes]].

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He may not necessarily be [[StupidCrooks entirely inept]] or have a [[PokeThePoodle laughably mild idea of what counts as villainy]]. VillainDecay is usually too simple an explanation. This is sometimes a relative situation, and the hero's RoguesGallery just happens to include people more showy, better financed, or just plain scarier than him. These guys are why people are found RootingForTheEmpire. The defining feature of such a villain is his gullibility: they are more often than not pitted against a Trickster [[TheTrickster Trickster]] who easily bamboozles them and leads them on their defeat, while it is obvious to the viewers that they should know better than listen to and believe their intended victim. Another way to showcase their stupidity is by making them foil their own plans and [[TooDumbToLive even die or get injured due to their own mistakes]].



The EvilCounterpart to FailureHero. Arguably a subtrope of BoisterousWeakling. A character who acts like a villain while genuinely not wanting to do anything truly evil is a HarmlessVillain.

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The EvilCounterpart to FailureHero. Arguably a subtrope of BoisterousWeakling. Supertrope to TheFamilyForTheWholeFamily, which specifically requires the villain to be incompetent and their likely threat level sans said incompetence to be that of a KnightOfCerebus. A character who acts like a villain while genuinely not wanting to do anything truly evil is a HarmlessVillain.
28th Oct '16 6:21:22 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Ariana was this in LLF during 2004, where she was so ineffectual that even when they were on the verge of winning a match she screwed so much up that her TagTeam partner Princesa Sugey snapped and assaulted her, then Polly Star, who was recovering from a prior match, decided join in. Ariana was so sympathetic that rather than try to win the match on of her {{tecnic|o}}a opponents tried to protect her and adding to whole thing was the referee ruling the disqualification in favor of the tecnicas, so they won anyway.
26th May '16 3:09:21 PM Shadowgazer
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May also be a {{Determinator}} out of necessity or overlap with DracoInLeatherPants. If they get even ''more'' pathetic in regard to the hero, {{Unknown Rival}}ry looms. Just watch out, they may suddenly turn out to be a NotSoHarmlessVillain.

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May also be a {{Determinator}} out of necessity or overlap with DracoInLeatherPants. If they get even ''more'' pathetic in regard to the hero, {{Unknown Rival}}ry looms. Just watch out, they may suddenly turn out to be a NotSoHarmlessVillain.
NotSoHarmlessVillain and succeed or come dangerously to succeeding with their goals in which case they will probably lose the sympathetic part and likely cross the MoralEventHorizon. After all, their appeal lies in how hopeless their attempts are.
14th Apr '16 2:35:24 AM Shadowgazer
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He may not necessarily be [[StupidCrooks inept]] or have a [[PokeThePoodle laughably mild idea of what counts as villainy]]. VillainDecay is usually too simple an explanation. This is sometimes a relative situation, and the hero's RoguesGallery just happens to include people more showy, better financed, or just plain scarier than him. These guys are why people are found RootingForTheEmpire.

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He may not necessarily be [[StupidCrooks entirely inept]] or have a [[PokeThePoodle laughably mild idea of what counts as villainy]]. VillainDecay is usually too simple an explanation. This is sometimes a relative situation, and the hero's RoguesGallery just happens to include people more showy, better financed, or just plain scarier than him. These guys are why people are found RootingForTheEmpire.
RootingForTheEmpire. The defining feature of such a villain is his gullibility: they are more often than not pitted against a Trickster who easily bamboozles them and leads them on their defeat, while it is obvious to the viewers that they should know better than listen to and believe their intended victim. Another way to showcase their stupidity is by making them foil their own plans and [[TooDumbToLive even die or get injured due to their own mistakes]].
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