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15th Jul '17 7:59:33 AM JackG
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* ''Series/{{Farscape}}''. In "Coup by Clam", a doctor has poisoned our heroes so he can hold them for ransom by WithholdingTheCure.
-->'''D'Argo:''' [after taking the cure] If this doesn't work, you're dead.
-->'''Dr Tumii:''' {{With all due respect}}, so are you.
11th Jun '17 11:33:04 PM jtierney50
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* In ''Theatre/LesMiserables'', Javert and the unnamed and unseen French soldier both make promises that the revolutionaries will not survive their revolution. The first time the soldier threatens them, Enjolras responds with a rousing reprise of "Red and Black" with the words "Damn their warnings, damn their lies/We will see the people rise!" that the other students join in. When Javert says "death to each and every traitor/I renounce your people's court!", the students respond by either knocking him out, tying him up, or both, depending on the production. However, by the French soldier's final warning, the revolutionaries have realized their impending doom and decide that the only course of action is to take down as many soldiers as they can, turning it from this trope into YouWillNotSurvive.
13th Apr '17 1:59:52 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Goku is prone to making dire death threats when angered, but almost always seems to go back on it later because of his merciful nature, regardless of what set him off in the first place. Apparently, you can shoot all the Nameks you like, kill Krillin, and/or significantly reduce earth's population, and he'll still do his best to spare you if you give him the puppy eyes and promise you'll be good from now on. (The villains have taken advantage of this more than once.) At one point, Vegeta actually follows along behind him, killing the Ginyu Force after they're defeated because [[GenreSavvy he knows Goku won't]]. And yes, Goku does get mad at him for it. These guys came within five minutes of killing his 5-year-old son!

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** Goku is prone to making dire death threats when angered, but almost always seems to go back on it later because of his merciful nature, regardless of what set him off in the first place. Apparently, you can shoot all the Nameks you like, kill Krillin, and/or significantly reduce earth's population, and he'll still do his best to spare you if you give him the puppy eyes and promise you'll be good from now on. (The villains have taken advantage of this more than once.) At one point, Vegeta actually follows along behind him, killing the Ginyu Force after they're defeated because [[GenreSavvy he knows Goku won't]].won't. And yes, Goku does get mad at him for it. These guys came within five minutes of killing his 5-year-old son!



* Occasionally, a GenreSavvy criminal will pull this on Franchise/{{Batman}} or Robin. In one ''ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}'' comic, a CorruptCorporateExecutive asks, "What, are you going to dangle me out a window?" Robin says maybe, and the Exec waves it off, noting "Batman never dropped anyone, and you won't either." Batman occasionally has an answer for it, either, "Nobody's ever ''found out'' about me killing anyone," or pointing out that he may not kill you, but he can make you hurt for a very long time.

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* Occasionally, a GenreSavvy criminal will pull this on Franchise/{{Batman}} or Robin. In one ''ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}'' comic, a CorruptCorporateExecutive asks, "What, are you going to dangle me out a window?" Robin says maybe, and the Exec waves it off, noting "Batman never dropped anyone, and you won't either." Batman occasionally has an answer for it, either, "Nobody's ever ''found out'' about me killing anyone," or pointing out that he may not kill you, but he can make you hurt for a very long time.
6th Jan '17 4:47:50 AM Kitch
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* In ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'', the last Klingon remaining from Kruge's crew, Maltz, submits himself to be killed, and Kirk says he'll kill him later. He then has Maltz taken to the brig.
-->'''Maltz:''' I thought you said you'd kill me!\\
'''Kirk:''' ILied.
** The extended book universe is mixed on Maltz's fate. Some say he committed suicide, while some books feature him much later living in disgrace.
1st Nov '16 8:10:50 PM merotoker
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** If you ignore the filler arcs, no-one dies until [[spoiler:Hueco Mundo, when the arrancar start getting knocked off. Although they're really just glorified {{mooks}}, and are DeadToBeginWith, so they don't really count.]] Granted, it is really hard to die when you're technically already dead, which accounts for 95% of the cast. One wonders why anyone bothers with death threats.

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** If you ignore the filler arcs, no-one dies until [[spoiler:Hueco Mundo, when the arrancar start getting knocked off. Although they're really just glorified {{mooks}}, and are DeadToBeginWith, so they don't really count.]] count]]. Granted, it is really hard to die when you're technically already dead, which accounts for 95% of the cast. One wonders why anyone bothers with death threats.



* Heero Yuy of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' is this website's [[Pantheon/{{Emotion}} designated patron saint]] for this trope. Over the course of the series he threatens to kill several characters -- [[TheOjou Relena]] most famously, but also [[TheRival Zechs]], and [[TheWoobie Quatre]] (when crazy due to the ZERO System). It's a running gag among the fandom, but the show implies that Heero, as a [[HitmanWithAHeart former assassin who's growing a conscience]], is trying to convince ''himself'' to be able to kill people he's grown to care for.

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* Heero Yuy of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' is this website's [[Pantheon/{{Emotion}} [[Pantheon/{{Calmness}} designated patron saint]] for this trope. Over the course of the series he threatens to kill several characters -- [[TheOjou [[{{Ojou}} Relena]] most famously, but also [[TheRival Zechs]], and [[TheWoobie Quatre]] (when crazy due to the ZERO System). It's a running gag among the fandom, but the show implies that Heero, as a [[HitmanWithAHeart former assassin who's growing a conscience]], is trying to convince ''himself'' to be able to kill people he's grown to care for.



* At the end of the "Thriller Bark" arc of ''Manga/OnePiece'', [[BearsAreBadNews Bartholomew Kuma]] is ordered to kill the wounded, helpless hero, and makes sure everyone knows it, ramping the drama up to breaking point- but then seems entirely satisfied with seriously wounding a supporting character, and then leaving. A bit more {{justified|Trope}} than most; it has been implied (and recently confirmed) that[[spoiler: the villain in question is an ally of the hero's father who, despite being missing for most of his life, would not want his son killed.]]

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* At the end of the "Thriller Bark" arc of ''Manga/OnePiece'', [[BearsAreBadNews Bartholomew Kuma]] is ordered to kill the wounded, helpless hero, and makes sure everyone knows it, ramping the drama up to breaking point- but then seems entirely satisfied with seriously wounding a supporting character, and then leaving. A bit more {{justified|Trope}} than most; it has been implied (and recently confirmed) that[[spoiler: that [[spoiler: the villain in question is an ally of the hero's father who, despite being missing for most of his life, would not want his son killed.]]killed]].



* Thorfinn's repeated death treats towards Askeladd in ''VinlandSaga'' is certainly treated like this by the latter. Askeladd knows [[HonorBeforeReason Thorfinn will only settle for a clean kill in an honourable duel]], thus he's safe from being stabbed to death in his sleep, and also how to push Thorfinn's buttons to make sure he loses all the duels.

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* Thorfinn's repeated death treats towards Askeladd in ''VinlandSaga'' ''Manga/VinlandSaga'' is certainly treated like this by the latter. Askeladd knows [[HonorBeforeReason Thorfinn will only settle for a clean kill in an honourable duel]], thus he's safe from being stabbed to death in his sleep, and also how to push Thorfinn's buttons to make sure he loses all the duels.



* ''ComicBook/BuckGodotZapGunForHire'': [[http://www.airshipentertainment.com/buckcomic.php?date=20080717 Give me Winslow or I]] [[spoiler:floss his teeth!!]]

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* ''ComicBook/BuckGodotZapGunForHire'': [[http://www.airshipentertainment.com/buckcomic.php?date=20080717 Give me Winslow or I]] [[spoiler:floss his teeth!!]]teeth]]!!



* In ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'', Mara Jade's threats toward Luke Skywalker end up being this, either due to external circumstances either forbidding it outright (generally because her boss has given an explicit command ''not'' to), or because she's stuck in a CantKillYouStillNeedYou situation. Eventually she finds out that [[spoiler:it's not really ''her'' who wants Luke dead, but the Emperor, who had given her one last command to do so, as a final act of revenge against Darth Vader. Some time after this discovery, she frees herself from the command via LoopholeAbuse.]]

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* In ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'', Mara Jade's threats toward Luke Skywalker end up being this, either due to external circumstances either forbidding it outright (generally because her boss has given an explicit command ''not'' to), or because she's stuck in a CantKillYouStillNeedYou situation. Eventually she finds out that [[spoiler:it's not really ''her'' who wants Luke dead, but the Emperor, who had given her one last command to do so, as a final act of revenge against Darth Vader. Some time after this discovery, she frees herself from the command via LoopholeAbuse.]]LoopholeAbuse]].



** "I don't talk about reaping souls, I just do it." – Wrestling/TheUndertaker. He's the embodiment of death, and yet he never kills anyone... Except Wrestling/PaulBearer... Muhammad Hassan…

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** "I don't talk about reaping souls, I just do it." – Wrestling/TheUndertaker. He's the embodiment of death, and yet he never kills anyone... Except Wrestling/PaulBearer... Muhammad Hassan…Wrestling/MuhammadHassan…



* Niftu Cal's (you may remember him better as "the biotic god") ill-advised assault upon Wasea in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' is preceded by a few boasts about how he will wipe the floor with her. [[TooDumbToLive While high.]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis And level 1.]] [[RuleOfThree And unarmed.]] [[BeefGate It doesn't go well for him]]. Inverted in [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 the third game's multiplayer]], if you [[HeroOfAnotherStory choose to give him a]] [[{{Cameo}} cameo]]. Reaper forces will be [[LethalJokeCharacter swept aside by a great wind]] [[DifficultButAwesome in the hands of a good player]].
** In the third installment's single player, Kai Leng is full of these in gameplay, ([[GameplayAndStorySegregation though not]] [[HeroKiller in story]], [[spoiler: [[AssassinOutclassin taking out fan-favourite Thane while not using his biotic-proof shields, cloak, gun, or anything except his sword]]]]) - being a Phantom [[TheWorfEffect without an instant-kill move, and with a heavily nerfed palm gun, and no cloak outside cutscenes]]. So despite his [[spoiler: [[MagnificentBastard playing bait for a cunning gunship trap on]] [[TheBadGuyWins Thessia, leading to Cerberus' victory against]] [[TheDreaded Commander Shepard, of all people]]]], his [[KickTheDog mocking e-mail]] was horribly ill-advised, as he's a pushover in [[spoiler: [[HeroicRematch Cerberus' final battle on Chronos Station.]]]]

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* Niftu Cal's (you may remember him better as "the biotic god") ill-advised assault upon Wasea in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' is preceded by a few boasts about how he will wipe the floor with her. [[TooDumbToLive While high.]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis And level 1.]] [[RuleOfThree And unarmed.]] [[BeefGate It doesn't go well for him]]. Inverted in [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 the third game's multiplayer]], if you [[HeroOfAnotherStory choose to give him a]] [[{{Cameo}} [[TheCameo cameo]]. Reaper forces will be [[LethalJokeCharacter swept aside by a great wind]] [[DifficultButAwesome in the hands of a good player]].
** In the third installment's single player, Kai Leng is full of these in gameplay, ([[GameplayAndStorySegregation though not]] [[HeroKiller in story]], [[spoiler: [[AssassinOutclassin taking out fan-favourite Thane while not using his biotic-proof shields, cloak, gun, or anything except his sword]]]]) - being a Phantom [[TheWorfEffect without an instant-kill move, and with a heavily nerfed palm gun, and no cloak outside cutscenes]]. So despite his [[spoiler: [[MagnificentBastard playing bait for a cunning gunship trap on]] [[TheBadGuyWins Thessia, leading to Cerberus' victory against]] [[TheDreaded Commander Shepard, of all people]]]], his [[KickTheDog mocking e-mail]] was horribly ill-advised, as he's a pushover in [[spoiler: [[HeroicRematch Cerberus' final battle on Chronos Station.]]]]Station]]]].



* In ''{{Skyrim}}'', the Dragonborn can become both [[spoiler:the Listener for the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]] and the Guild Master of the [[HonorAmongThieves Thieves' Guild]]]]. Once the Dragonborn holds both of these positions, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Maven]] [[{{Jerkass}} Black-Briar's]] threats to sick either or both organizations on the Dragonborn become absolutely hilarious considering she's essentially threatening you with ''yourself''. Also very quick and easy to [[spoiler:single-handedly exterminate the Dark Brotherhood, which won't stop her threatening you with the cave full of corpses]]

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* In ''{{Skyrim}}'', ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', the Dragonborn can become both [[spoiler:the Listener for the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood]] and the Guild Master of the [[HonorAmongThieves Thieves' Guild]]]]. Once the Dragonborn holds both of these positions, [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Maven]] [[{{Jerkass}} Black-Briar's]] threats to sick either or both organizations on the Dragonborn become absolutely hilarious considering she's essentially threatening you with ''yourself''. Also very quick and easy to [[spoiler:single-handedly exterminate the Dark Brotherhood, which won't stop her threatening you with the cave full of corpses]]corpses]].



* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': In one episode, the Sex Ed teacher at Arlen Middle School quits after recieving death threats by telephone, forcing Peggy to substitute teach it. Later in the episode, she receives a phone call from ''[[CloudCuckooLander Dale]]'' saying in a very poorly disguised voice, "You don't know me, but I know what you're up to! And if you know what's good for you you'd better not teach that Sex Ed class!" And then before hanging up, he ''leaves her with a message for Hank.'' Very much PlayedForLaughs.

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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': In one episode, the Sex Ed teacher at Arlen Middle School quits after recieving receiving death threats by telephone, forcing Peggy to substitute teach it. Later in the episode, she receives a phone call from ''[[CloudCuckooLander Dale]]'' saying in a very poorly disguised voice, "You don't know me, but I know what you're up to! And if you know what's good for you you'd better not teach that Sex Ed class!" And then before hanging up, he ''leaves her with a message for Hank.'' Very much PlayedForLaughs.
20th Jul '16 5:36:41 AM Morgenthaler
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* There's a ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' episode in which a DangerouslyGenreSavvy warlord wannabe calls her out on this. Basically, he calls her bluff on the whole pressure point "cut off the flow of blood to the brain" bit, since he has noticed that she ''never makes good on the threat'' anymore.

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* There's a ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' episode in which a DangerouslyGenreSavvy warlord wannabe calls her out on this. Basically, he calls her bluff on the whole pressure point "cut off the flow of blood to the brain" bit, since he has noticed that she ''never makes good on the threat'' anymore.
6th Jun '16 8:45:43 PM eroock
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->"You know, Angel, coming from you, idle threats are so, well, idle."

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->"You ->''"You know, Angel, coming from you, idle threats are so, well, idle.""''
6th Jun '16 12:07:37 PM Morgenthaler
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* The old rebel in ''The Crimson Pirate'' who while being tortured keeps saying: "Gruda, one day I'll kill you." Eventually he is released from prison and tries to make good on his word, but is killed in the attempt.

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* The old rebel in ''The Crimson Pirate'' ''Film/TheCrimsonPirate'' who while being tortured keeps saying: "Gruda, one day I'll kill you." Eventually he is released from prison and tries to make good on his word, but is killed in the attempt.
6th Jun '16 12:07:19 PM Morgenthaler
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* The sixth ''Franchise/PoliceAcademy'' movie begins with Captain Harris and Proctor staking out a store in an unmarked car; Proctor is singing [[EarWorm "The Twelve Days of Christmas"]] and Harris is visibly annoyed. When he finishes, and is about to start over, Harris loses his patience:

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* The sixth ''Franchise/PoliceAcademy'' movie ''Film/PoliceAcademy6CityUnderSiege'' begins with Captain Harris and Proctor staking out a store in an unmarked car; Proctor is singing [[EarWorm "The Twelve Days of Christmas"]] and Harris is visibly annoyed. When he finishes, and is about to start over, Harris loses his patience:



* In ''Theatre/{{Dreamgirls}}'', after learning the depths of how much he betrayed Effie, even as far as having her hit single pulled from the airwaves, C.C. proclaims to Curtis "I could kill you for what you did to Effie!", to which Curtis ''immediately'' calls him on his bluff and returns with, "You couldn't kill shit.''
* Inverted in "Casino" when Nicky Santoro demands his banker return all the money he invested. He then says that he will come down to the bank and if the money is not there he will crack open the bankers skull and go to prison. Based on his actions in the movie (including planning to kill and bury his oldest friend) he might kill the banker but not go to prison. He'd kill the entire city of Las Vegas before taking a prison stretch.

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* In ''Theatre/{{Dreamgirls}}'', ''Film/{{Dreamgirls}}'', after learning the depths of how much he betrayed Effie, even as far as having her hit single pulled from the airwaves, C.C. proclaims to Curtis "I could kill you for what you did to Effie!", to which Curtis ''immediately'' calls him on his bluff and returns with, "You couldn't kill shit.''
* Inverted in "Casino" ''Film/{{Casino}}'' when Nicky Santoro demands his banker return all the money he invested. He then says that he will come down to the bank and if the money is not there he will crack open the bankers skull and go to prison. Based on his actions in the movie (including planning to kill and bury his oldest friend) he might kill the banker but not go to prison. He'd kill the entire city of Las Vegas before taking a prison stretch.
20th Feb '16 5:09:03 PM MarcInGA
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* Inverted in "Casino" when Nicky Santoro demands his banker return all the money he invested. He then says that he will come down to the bank and if the money is not there he will crack open the bankers skull and go to prison. Based on his actions in the movie (including planning to kill and bury his oldest friend) he might kill the banker but not go to prison. He'd kill the entire city of Las Vegas before taking a prison stretch.
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