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13th Nov '17 5:10:19 PM SorcerorNobody
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*** In the commentary for the series 5 opener, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E1TheEleventhHour The Eleventh Hour]]", [[Creator/StevenMoffat Steven Moffat]] describes the Doctor as the sort of person who would jump off a building and work out what to do about it on the way down. Moffat would much later write "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent Heaven Sent]]" part of the series 9 finale which featured the Twelfth Doctor doing almost exactly that.
10th Nov '17 2:58:15 PM KingLyger
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* ''Film/SchindlersList'': While not directly stated, the name of Oskar Schindler's munitions factory ought to have been P.I.D.O.O.A, since that's his strategy for producing not a single shell during the war while coming up with excuses to give to the Germans. Throughout the entire film (including the excellent introductory sequence which highlights what a huckster Oskar really is), he's relying solely on his natural charisma, bribes, and pure guesswork. Since nobody can really top Creator/RogerEbert's own review of the film, here is the best excerpt:
-->''"Schindler outsmarted it, in his own little corner of the war, but he seems to have had no plan...We know that [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow Stern understands this]]. But there is no moment when Schindler and Stern bluntly state what is happening, perhaps because to say certain things aloud could result in death."''

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* ''Film/SchindlersList'': While not directly stated, the name of Oskar Schindler's munitions factory ought to have been P.I.D.O.O.A, since that's his strategy for producing not doesn't produce a single shell during the war war, all while Schindler keeps coming up with excuses to give to the Germans. Throughout the entire film (including the excellent introductory sequence which highlights what a huckster Oskar really is), he's relying solely on his natural charisma, bribes, and pure guesswork. Since nobody can really top Creator/RogerEbert's own review of the film, here is the best excerpt:
film said it best:
-->''"Schindler outsmarted it, in his own little corner of the war, but he seems to have had no plan... We know that [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow Stern understands this]]. But there is no moment when Schindler and Stern bluntly state what is happening, perhaps because to say certain things aloud could result in death."''
6th Nov '17 8:08:22 PM KillerClowns
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---> '''Emma''': Oh, you're unprepared? Oh my god, who could have seen that coming?

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4th Nov '17 4:59:17 PM Stealth
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* An InformedAbility of Jazz from ''ComicBook/TheTransformers,'' intended as a contrast to Prowl as the Autobot's StrawVulcan. Where Prowl is obsessed with planning and order, Jazz is creative and improvisational. In fairness, when they ''do'' get to show off these tendencies, they work about as often as not.
2nd Nov '17 9:54:47 PM Actua11y
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Contrast StrategySchmategy (where the character just acts at random without even improvising a plan on the fly), XanatosGambit (a plan where all reasonable outcomes are benefical) and BatmanGambit (where the gambitter uses his knowledge of what all involved will do in order to use them as pieces on the board). Between them and this trope lies XanatosSpeedChess, where the plan, generally more complicated than "survive and don't get caught", is continually adapted to circumstances. This can lead to a SpannerInTheWorks where they cannot be predicted ''because'' they don't know what they are going to do next.

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Contrast StrategySchmategy (where the character just acts at random without even improvising a plan on the fly), XanatosGambit (a plan where all reasonable outcomes are benefical) beneficial) and BatmanGambit (where the gambitter uses his knowledge of what all involved will do in order to use them as pieces on the board). Between them and this trope lies XanatosSpeedChess, where the plan, generally more complicated than "survive and don't get caught", is continually adapted to circumstances. This can lead to a SpannerInTheWorks where they cannot be predicted ''because'' they don't know what they are going to do next.



** And it's not like any plan they make will have more than 1% chance of success. [[spoiler: As they can pull off even something with [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome 0 chance]] of success, it doesn't really matter...]]

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** And it's not like any plan they make will have more than 1% chance of success. [[spoiler: As [[spoiler:As they can pull off even something with [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome 0 chance]] of success, it doesn't really matter...]]



** In his fight with [[spoiler: Shukuro Tsukishima]] Byakuya of all people was forced to do this as his opponent's ability [[spoiler: allowed him to "insert" himself in someone's past, and he used it to learn any move Byakuya ever trained]], so Byakuya had to improvise something unexpected. Later he admitted he enjoyed it.

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** In his fight with [[spoiler: Shukuro [[spoiler:Shukuro Tsukishima]] Byakuya of all people was forced to do this as his opponent's ability [[spoiler: allowed [[spoiler:allowed him to "insert" himself in someone's past, and he used it to learn any move Byakuya ever trained]], so Byakuya had to improvise something unexpected. Later he admitted he enjoyed it.



* Reed Richards of the ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' can afford to use this as his modus operandi, since he's smart enough to pull a master plan that would take anyone else days to draw up out of his ass at random, or cobble together a interdimensional continuity de-snarler out of a handful of kitchen utensils.

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* Reed Richards of the ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' can afford to use this as his modus operandi, since he's smart enough to pull a master plan that would take anyone else days to draw up out of his ass at random, or cobble together a an interdimensional continuity de-snarler out of a handful of kitchen utensils.



* The ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' fanfic ''Fanfic/{{Forward}}'' continues the original series' fine tradition of Mal making it up as he goes. In the "Condor" story arc, it gets lampshaded by Zoe, who is relieved when Mal says their harrowing escape is being made up on the spot, and in the "Third Interlude" chapter, Jayne pulls an Indiana Jones-style vehicle boarding where he's improvising as he goes.

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* The ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' fanfic ''Fanfic/{{Forward}}'' continues the original series' fine tradition of Mal making it up as he goes. In the "Condor" story arc, it gets lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} by Zoe, who is relieved when Mal says their harrowing escape is being made up on the spot, and in the "Third Interlude" chapter, Jayne pulls an Indiana Jones-style vehicle boarding where he's improvising as he goes.



* Zigzagged in ''Fanfic/YuGiOhTheThousandYearDoor'', where Kyle does indeed have a plan to get him and Drake out of the MortonsFork situation they're in [[note]]They are opponents in the final round of the semi-finals of a tournament which is clearly NotJustATournament; the losers life will be in danger, while the winner will end up an UnwittingPawn of the BigBad during the quarter finals.[[/note]] but...

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* Zigzagged in ''Fanfic/YuGiOhTheThousandYearDoor'', where Kyle does indeed have a plan to get him and Drake out of the MortonsFork situation they're in [[note]]They are opponents in the final round of the semi-finals of a tournament which is clearly NotJustATournament; the losers life will be in danger, while the winner will end up an UnwittingPawn of the BigBad during the quarter finals.quarterfinals.[[/note]] but...



** Lampshaded later in the film:

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** Lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} later in the film:



* ''Film/TenThingsIHateAboutYou'': To get Patrick Verona [Heath Ledger] out of detention after his big romantic gesture by way of apology for an earlier thing, Kat Stratford [Julia Stiles] improvises a distraction for the soccer coach running the class. The plan? Draw his eye by talking about a BaitAndSwitch ploy [[spoiler: and when all else fails, flash him.]]

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* ''Film/TenThingsIHateAboutYou'': To get Patrick Verona [Heath Ledger] out of detention after his big romantic gesture by way of apology for an earlier thing, Kat Stratford [Julia Stiles] improvises a distraction for the soccer coach running the class. The plan? Draw his eye by talking about a BaitAndSwitch ploy [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and when all else fails, flash him.]]



* In ''Film/OceansTwelve'', half the crew is jailed and the remaining half tries an Indy Ploy to achieve the mission, including having [[spoiler:Julia Roberts try to pretend she's Julia Roberts]]. The plot fails, but anyway [[spoiler: everything was a GambitRoulette from the beginning.]]

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* In ''Film/OceansTwelve'', half the crew is jailed and the remaining half tries an Indy Ploy to achieve the mission, including having [[spoiler:Julia Roberts try to pretend she's Julia Roberts]]. The plot fails, but anyway [[spoiler: everything [[spoiler:everything was a GambitRoulette from the beginning.]]



* ''Film/TheDarkKnight'': Joker claims to be doing this, but it's really really unlikely most of the time, considering the fact that he knew exactly how everyone in the city would react [[spoiler: right up until the grand finale]], with Batman himself being the only wild card, and a minor one at that. Considering how well everything worked out, it's more likely he's falling back on the character's long standing similarity to Batman, doing what he can to plan ahead and making up what he can't. It's also possible that he's playing it up to inspire fear. After all, the only thing more frightening than a psycho with a plan is a psycho without a plan ''who manages to succeed anyway''.

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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight'': Joker claims to be doing this, but it's really really unlikely most of the time, considering the fact that he knew exactly how everyone in the city would react [[spoiler: right [[spoiler:right up until the grand finale]], with Batman himself being the only wild card, and a minor one at that. Considering how well everything worked out, it's more likely he's falling back on the character's long standing similarity to Batman, doing what he can to plan ahead and making up what he can't. It's also possible that he's playing it up to inspire fear. After all, the only thing more frightening than a psycho with a plan is a psycho without a plan ''who manages to succeed anyway''.



* Inverted with ''Film/{{Thor}}'' in that it isn't the hero, but the villain. [[spoiler: Loki allowed a few Frost Giants in Asgard for "a bit of fun" while also "protecting Asgard" from Thor's rule; talks his brother into doing something stupid but the consequences were a lot bigger than he had hoped for; then he realizes he's adopted and decides that it's better for Thor to stay on Earth while [[LoveMakesYouEvil he tries to earn their father's love]] by killing an entire race.]]

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* Inverted with ''Film/{{Thor}}'' in that it isn't the hero, but the villain. [[spoiler: Loki [[spoiler:Loki allowed a few Frost Giants in Asgard for "a bit of fun" while also "protecting Asgard" from Thor's rule; talks his brother into doing something stupid but the consequences were a lot bigger than he had hoped for; then he realizes he's adopted and decides that it's better for Thor to stay on Earth while [[LoveMakesYouEvil he tries to earn their father's love]] by killing an entire race.]]



* Played with and Lampshaded in ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Part 2'': After Voldemort learns they're hunting horcruxes Hermione says they need a new plan. Harry's response? "Hermione, since when have any of our plans ever worked?"

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* Played with and Lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} in ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Part 2'': After Voldemort learns they're hunting horcruxes Hermione says they need a new plan. Harry's response? "Hermione, since when have any of our plans ever worked?"



** At the end, [[spoiler: Peter Quill successfully delays the BigBad's imminent destruction of a planet by suddenly challenging him to a ''dance-off''.]]
* ''Film/ConAir'' provides some villainous examples, as Cyrus has planned ahead, but still has to improvise, as he couldn't have predicted every variable. Lampshaded in this exchange:

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** At the end, [[spoiler: Peter [[spoiler:Peter Quill successfully delays the BigBad's imminent destruction of a planet by suddenly challenging him to a ''dance-off''.]]
* ''Film/ConAir'' provides some villainous examples, as Cyrus has planned ahead, but still has to improvise, as he couldn't have predicted every variable. Lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} in this exchange:



* ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime''. [[spoiler: Mat due to way his luck-tweaking ability works, he does poorly at games of planning than of chance. For this reason, most of his better plans by default fall under this category.]]

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* ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime''. [[spoiler: Mat [[spoiler:Mat due to way his luck-tweaking ability works, he does poorly at games of planning than of chance. For this reason, most of his better plans by default fall under this category.]]



** A more heroic, for lack of a better term, Indy Ploy is the MO of Moist von Lipwig in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/GoingPostal''. Near the end, he makes a bet with the MagnificentBastard BigBad Reacher Gilt, and he has no idea how he'll win at first ... In his second appearance in ''Discworld/MakingMoney'', he outlines a grand if somewhat vague vision of the future of currency, and wonders if he should write it down so he can work out what he's talking about later. In both books the confidence with which he enters such things lead everyone else to conclude he had it all planned out.
** Lord Vetinari of Ankh-Morpork combines {{Indy Ploy}}s and ThePlan to devastating effect. It was once stated that, since you can't plan for every eventuality, Vetinari doesn't. When in doubt he will order Vimes '''NOT''' to get involved with it. Say what you will about Vetinari, he knows how Vimes will follow this trope for him. Vimes is too vimesy to use ThePlan, so one could call him him Vetinari's laser-guided Indy Ploy.

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** A more heroic, for lack of a better term, Indy Ploy is the MO of Moist von Lipwig in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/GoingPostal''. Near the end, he makes a bet with the MagnificentBastard BigBad Reacher Gilt, and he has no idea how he'll win at first ... In his second appearance in ''Discworld/MakingMoney'', he outlines a grand if somewhat vague vision of the future of currency, and wonders if he should write it down so he can work out what he's talking about later. In both books the confidence with which he enters such things lead leads everyone else to conclude he had it all planned out.
** Lord Vetinari of Ankh-Morpork combines {{Indy Ploy}}s and ThePlan to devastating effect. It was once stated that, since you can't plan for every eventuality, Vetinari doesn't. When in doubt he will order Vimes '''NOT''' to get involved with it. Say what you will about Vetinari, he knows how Vimes will follow this trope for him. Vimes is too vimesy to use ThePlan, so one could call him him Vetinari's laser-guided Indy Ploy.



** Jurgen, his assistant, is no different sometime. He usually just carries every item of possible use he can and always just so happens that they need some of those items. While that requires some planning, his action of ramming a gun-emplacement with a truck certainty was not planned. Cain tries to find a reason to criticize him and '''''fails'''''.
* In ''Ghostmaker'', trooper Caffran, being miffed at being recalled from an assault at an enemy stronghold, manages to get an entire squad of Tanith following him into that aforementioned stronghold, almost single-handedly destroying an entire city's worth of insane Chaos-worshipping berserker fanatics by [[spoiler: setting off a large enough explosion inside the stronghold that the cultists believe the Imperial Guard have completely entered the city, and proceed to engage in a mass suicide in the name of Khorne, the Blood God.]] End result, the entire Chaos army ends up dead while the Guard troopers still haven't even gotten inside the city.

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** Jurgen, his assistant, is no different sometime.sometimes. He usually just carries every item of possible use he can and always just so happens that they need some of those items. While that requires some planning, his action of ramming a gun-emplacement with a truck certainty was not planned. Cain tries to find a reason to criticize him and '''''fails'''''.
* In ''Ghostmaker'', trooper Caffran, being miffed at being recalled from an assault at an enemy stronghold, manages to get an entire squad of Tanith following him into that aforementioned stronghold, almost single-handedly destroying an entire city's worth of insane Chaos-worshipping berserker fanatics by [[spoiler: setting [[spoiler:setting off a large enough explosion inside the stronghold that the cultists believe the Imperial Guard have completely entered the city, and proceed to engage in a mass suicide in the name of Khorne, the Blood God.]] End result, the entire Chaos army ends up dead while the Guard troopers still haven't even gotten inside the city.



*** When they ''do'' make a meticulous plan for how they're going to break into the Ministry of Magic, it goes wrong from the start, and they have to wing the whole thing. Ditto the Gringotts break-in. [[spoiler: They were not anticipating flying away on a dragon.]]

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*** When they ''do'' make a meticulous plan for how they're going to break into the Ministry of Magic, it goes wrong from the start, and they have to wing the whole thing. Ditto the Gringotts break-in. [[spoiler: They [[spoiler:They were not anticipating flying away on a dragon.]]



*** ''Deathly Hallows Part 2'' Harry himself lampshades it by saying there's no need for a plan: "We make a plan, we go in, all hell breaks loose!"

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*** ''Deathly Hallows Part 2'' Harry himself lampshades {{Lampshades}} it by saying there's no need for a plan: "We make a plan, we go in, all hell breaks loose!"



** Oh, crap, giant scorpion-golem is attacking me and I can't use fire on it! Okay, [[spoiler: drop a freaking elevator on it using a tunnel of wind]]!
** A supremely-powerful ghost is trying to kill me in my dreams, and I can't beat it by myself. How do I stop it? [[spoiler: Let it kill me in my sleep, then team up with ''my own ghost'' to beat the crap out of it, then get revived via CPR.]]
** Trapped in a vampire's mansion, stripped of my gear, girlfriend is being held hostage, facing dozens of vampires, the leader of whom can wield magic, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking I'm wearing undies with yellow duckies on them]]. Shit, what do I do? [[spoiler: Pour magic into the shades of the vampires' hundreds of victims, giving them enough strength to mob the vampires and rip them to pieces]], that's what.
** Surrounded by faerie assassins in a Walmart with mind-numbing fog cutting off all help save [[BadassNormal Karrin Murphy]], and the badguys are immune to my magic. [[spoiler: Gasoline, a Super-Soaker, and chainsaws]] are the solution.
** Facing off against a terrorist empowered by a FallenAngel on top of a train, by myself. Nothing I throw at this guy works, thanks to the magical noose around his neck that instantly heals all damage. [[spoiler: Well, let's give that noose a grab....]]
** Three powerful necromancers who outpower me and are backed up by armies of unstoppable undead minions. I'm hurt, tired, and in no shape to face them head on, but the ritual they're planning will kill thousands if I don't stop them. Well, good thing I'm in the Field Museum. [[spoiler: Let's raise that T-Rex skeleton and get to whupping some undead ass.]]

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** Oh, crap, giant scorpion-golem is attacking me and I can't use fire on it! Okay, [[spoiler: drop [[spoiler:drop a freaking elevator on it using a tunnel of wind]]!
** A supremely-powerful ghost is trying to kill me in my dreams, and I can't beat it by myself. How do I stop it? [[spoiler: Let [[spoiler:Let it kill me in my sleep, then team up with ''my own ghost'' to beat the crap out of it, then get revived via CPR.]]
** Trapped in a vampire's mansion, stripped of my gear, girlfriend is being held hostage, facing dozens of vampires, the leader of whom can wield magic, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking I'm wearing undies with yellow duckies on them]]. Shit, what do I do? [[spoiler: Pour [[spoiler:Pour magic into the shades of the vampires' hundreds of victims, giving them enough strength to mob the vampires and rip them to pieces]], that's what.
** Surrounded by faerie assassins in a Walmart with mind-numbing fog cutting off all help save [[BadassNormal Karrin Murphy]], and the badguys are immune to my magic. [[spoiler: Gasoline, [[spoiler:Gasoline, a Super-Soaker, and chainsaws]] are the solution.
** Facing off against a terrorist empowered by a FallenAngel on top of a train, by myself. Nothing I throw at this guy works, thanks to the magical noose around his neck that instantly heals all damage. [[spoiler: Well, [[spoiler:Well, let's give that noose a grab....]]
** Three powerful necromancers who outpower me and are backed up by armies of unstoppable undead minions. I'm hurt, tired, and in no shape to face them head on, but the ritual they're planning will kill thousands if I don't stop them. Well, good thing I'm in the Field Museum. [[spoiler: Let's [[spoiler:Let's raise that T-Rex skeleton and get to whupping some undead ass.]]



* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Tyrion in particular is a master of these, particularly his escape from the Eyrie and his convincing Cersei that she indeed has his mistress captive even though she has captured Ros instead of Shae.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Tyrion Tyrion, in particular particular, is a master of these, particularly his escape from the Eyrie and his convincing Cersei that she indeed has his mistress captive even though she has captured Ros instead of Shae.



** Earlier there was this reaction to learning that Gunn's plan to expose (zombie) cops who were attacking people was to go video tape them attacking him.

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** Earlier there was this reaction to learning that Gunn's plan to expose (zombie) cops who were attacking people was to go video tape videotape them attacking him.



---> '''The Doctor:''' River, you 'n me, we're gonna find the primary flight deck,[...] stabilise the wreckage, stop the angels and cure Amy.

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---> '''The Doctor:''' River, you 'n me, we're gonna find the primary flight deck,[...] stabilise stabilize the wreckage, stop the angels and cure Amy.



** Similarly lampshaded in this exchange:

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** Similarly lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} in this exchange:



* This was Series/MacGyver's usual Modus Operandi. It was also lampshaded several times:

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* This was Series/MacGyver's usual Modus Operandi. It was also lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} several times:



* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': In the episode ''April Fool's Day'', Miss Brooks attends an "Everybody Must Do Something Party". [[spoiler: She stalls for time to avoid Miss Enright embarrassing her with an April Fool's Day joke. Miss Brooks plays the ukulele, sings, recites poetry, finally resorting to reading the phonebook aloud.]]

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* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': In the episode ''April Fool's Day'', Miss Brooks attends an "Everybody Must Do Something Party". [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She stalls for time to avoid Miss Enright embarrassing her with an April Fool's Day joke. Miss Brooks plays the ukulele, sings, recites poetry, finally resorting to reading the phonebook aloud.]]



** A Boss with any chance of significant success has to be Kunnin' enough to put decent strategies together, but beyond those broad strokes he and all his nobz and boyz will be implementing Indy Ployz that consist mainly of krumpin' everything in sight.

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** A Boss with any chance of significant success has to be Kunnin' enough to put decent strategies together, but beyond those broad strokes strokes, he and all his nobz and boyz will be implementing Indy Ployz that consist mainly of krumpin' everything in sight.



** And yet he's still a janitor, despite saving his homeplanet and the galaxy several times over. [[NeverLiveItDown You blow up one garbage scow]]...

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** And yet he's still a janitor, despite saving his homeplanet home planet and the galaxy several times over. [[NeverLiveItDown You blow up one garbage scow]]...



* Adell from ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 2|CursedMemories}}'' (with a little help from his family) opens the game with the truly ''brilliant'' plan of summoning Overlord Zenon, [[OmnicidalManiac god of all overlords]], into his family's back yard so he, being [[OverratedAndUnderLeveled the mighty level 1 character]] that he is, can beat him up. After the summoning screws up and summons Rozalin, Zenon's daughter instead, Adell is forced into improvising plan after plan for the next six or so chapters as he cluelessly tries to track down Zenon on his own.

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* Adell from ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 2|CursedMemories}}'' (with a little help from his family) opens the game with the truly ''brilliant'' plan of summoning Overlord Zenon, [[OmnicidalManiac god of all overlords]], into his family's back yard backyard so he, being [[OverratedAndUnderLeveled the mighty level 1 character]] that he is, can beat him up. After the summoning screws up and summons Rozalin, Zenon's daughter instead, Adell is forced into improvising plan after plan for the next six or so chapters as he cluelessly tries to track down Zenon on his own.



** Meh, it worked on [[spoiler: [[BigBad Kirei]].]] And Saber tried to do this once (her attempt to attack the magus at the Ryudo Temple in Fate), which lead to [[HypocriticalHumor Shirou calling her on it]].

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** Meh, it worked on [[spoiler: [[BigBad [[spoiler:[[BigBad Kirei]].]] And Saber tried to do this once (her attempt to attack the magus at the Ryudo Temple in Fate), which lead to [[HypocriticalHumor Shirou calling her on it]].



** The rest of the group seem to start embracing this mentality (that, or IdiotHero), most notably when they take an action that will ''[[spoiler: destroy the world]]'' with no idea how to stop that from happening beyond the vague notion that "if we have the power to destroy [it], we must have the power to save it". A concept that doesn't really hold true in a lot of situations.
* And as a villainous Franchise/FinalFantasy example we have Kefka Palazzo of ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVI''. His long-term goal: Amass power and abuse it. Stuff he did simply because the opportunity presented itself: Almost everything else... This could be attributed to him being so AxCrazy that his mind cannot formulate detailed plans. Whichever the case, it all worked out pretty friggin' well for him. To the great misfortune of the ones who's lives were ruined, lost, or both.

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** The rest of the group seem to start embracing this mentality (that, or IdiotHero), most notably when they take an action that will ''[[spoiler: destroy ''[[spoiler:destroy the world]]'' with no idea how to stop that from happening beyond the vague notion that "if we have the power to destroy [it], we must have the power to save it". A concept that doesn't really hold true in a lot of situations.
* And as a villainous Franchise/FinalFantasy example we have Kefka Palazzo of ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVI''. His long-term goal: Amass power and abuse it. Stuff he did simply because the opportunity presented itself: Almost everything else... This could be attributed to him being so AxCrazy that his mind cannot formulate detailed plans. Whichever the case, it all worked out pretty friggin' well for him. To the great misfortune of the ones who's whose lives were ruined, lost, or both.



** Lampshaded in the second game; when Nicole asks him what the hell he's doing, George tells he he likes to try random stuff in a crisis and see what sticks.

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** Lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} in the second game; when Nicole asks him what the hell he's doing, George tells he he likes to try random stuff in a crisis and see what sticks.



--> [[spoiler: (''cue Ubercharge and the BLU team getting their asses handed to them'')]]

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--> [[spoiler: (''cue [[spoiler:(''cue Ubercharge and the BLU team getting their asses handed to them'')]]



* ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''. This is Booker [=DeWitt=]'s standard procedure throughout the entire game. He's constantly jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, having to improvise in order to find Elizabeth, catch up to her again when she runs off and rescue her when she's captured. Justified because he has false memories of his past and a severe lack of useful information from his employers who do know what's going on - the Luteces. Lampshaded right after he [[spoiler:kills Comstock]]: when Elizabeth asks him how they're going to destroy the [[spoiler:Tower and the Siphon]] he says "I don't know, but I'll think of something on the way."
* A villainous example in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars''. At first, it appears as if [[spoiler: the Scrin]] are conducting a very well-organized, meticulously planned attack when they show up. But then when you play the third campaign of the game, it turns out that ''they didn't have a plan'' [[spoiler: due to the fact that Kane tricked them into arriving almost a century too early, and their force was not equipped for an all-out war.]] Everything they do is simply a desperate attempt at a DelayingAction, turning a lot of their non-combat equipment into {{Improvised Weapon}}s, and generally really hoping their enemies don't catch on to the fact that they're actually a lot less powerful than they seem.
** A larger example, as revealed in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianTwilight'', is [[spoiler: Kane's ultimate goal of the series. It turned out that all he was trying to do was find some way to get off of Earth, and that every Tiberium War he started was more or less an IndyPloy.]] [[FanDislikedExplanation Fans did not take this well at all.]]

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* ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite''. This is Booker [=DeWitt=]'s standard procedure throughout the entire game. He's constantly jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, having to improvise in order to find Elizabeth, catch up to her again when she runs off and rescue her when she's captured. Justified because he has false memories of his past and a severe lack of useful information from his employers who do know what's going on - the Luteces. Lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} right after he [[spoiler:kills Comstock]]: when Elizabeth asks him how they're going to destroy the [[spoiler:Tower and the Siphon]] he says "I don't know, but I'll think of something on the way."
* A villainous example in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars''. At first, it appears as if [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Scrin]] are conducting a very well-organized, meticulously planned attack when they show up. But then when you play the third campaign of the game, it turns out that ''they didn't have a plan'' [[spoiler: due [[spoiler:due to the fact that Kane tricked them into arriving almost a century too early, and their force was not equipped for an all-out war.]] Everything they do is simply a desperate attempt at a DelayingAction, turning a lot of their non-combat equipment into {{Improvised Weapon}}s, and generally really hoping their enemies don't catch on to the fact that they're actually a lot less powerful than they seem.
** A larger example, as revealed in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianTwilight'', is [[spoiler: Kane's [[spoiler:Kane's ultimate goal of the series. It turned out that all he was trying to do was find some way to get off of Earth, and that every Tiberium War he started was more or less an IndyPloy.]] [[FanDislikedExplanation Fans did not take this well at all.]]



* In ''WebVideo/DoorMonster'''s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uam0KMyZh2E&index=3&list=PL0u5ZHidq4X4QhFAX9FzSiYJLRen74sLF The Guards Themselves]], Noam and the crew [[spoiler: show up to free their comrades from jail, but have no plan for actually getting them out]]. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Emma.

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* In ''WebVideo/DoorMonster'''s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uam0KMyZh2E&index=3&list=PL0u5ZHidq4X4QhFAX9FzSiYJLRen74sLF The Guards Themselves]], Noam and the crew [[spoiler: show [[spoiler:show up to free their comrades from jail, but have no plan for actually getting them out]]. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Emma.



* In early ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'', the titular character expressed "Who needs a plans when you've got the watch!" thought process, often selecting the alien forms that possessed the most brute strength or coolest powers. In "Hunted", a fake bounty hunter calls Ben out on this primitive strategy, and since then, he has been more creative with the Ominitrix. Well, more or less.

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* In early ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'', the titular character expressed "Who needs a plans plan when you've got the watch!" thought process, often selecting the alien forms that possessed the most brute strength or coolest powers. In "Hunted", a fake bounty hunter calls Ben out on this primitive strategy, and since then, he has been more creative with the Ominitrix.Omnitrix. Well, more or less.



* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'': Although Plankton is usually shown to have elaborate scheme, he does hang a lampshade on this concept on at least one occasion.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'': Although Plankton is usually shown to have elaborate scheme, schemes, he does hang a lampshade {{Lampshade}} on this concept on at least one occasion.



* A common theme in early episodes of ''WesternAnimation/{{Reboot}}'' was that Bob never thought more than 6 nanoseconds ahead, and Dot never did anything without careful forethought. Naturally this led to friction as the two competed to prove which approach was best, while events provided a subtle Aesop that a balance between the two was really the best approach.
* A pariculary memorable conversation on ''WesternAnimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand'', when Mira is hitching a ride inside Buzz's head:

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* A common theme in early episodes of ''WesternAnimation/{{Reboot}}'' was that Bob never thought more than 6 nanoseconds ahead, and Dot never did anything without careful forethought. Naturally Naturally, this led to friction as the two competed to prove which approach was best, while events provided a subtle Aesop that a balance between the two was really the best approach.
* A pariculary particularly memorable conversation on ''WesternAnimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand'', when Mira is hitching a ride inside Buzz's head:



* Finn lampshades this in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' when he manages to get through a door of the Ice King's fortress after mentioning having a plan: "Nah, that wasn't my plan. I just got lucky."

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* Finn lampshades {{Lampshades}} this in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' when he manages to get through a door of the Ice King's fortress after mentioning having a plan: "Nah, that wasn't my plan. I just got lucky."



* Used and lampshaded in the ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' episode "Meapless in Seattle".

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* Used and lampshaded {{Lampshaded}} in the ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' episode "Meapless in Seattle".



* This was actually how American football's signature feature, the forward pass, came into being. In the early 20th Century, many colleges were considering abandoning Walter Camp's football code in favor of rugby. In a game between the University of North Carolina and the University of Georgia, a punter threw the ball towards a teammate down field while trying to avoid getting creamed by an oncoming rush. The receiver made a 70-yard touchdown (including the pass) to win the game for the UNC Tarheels, 7-0. This was witnessed by one Johnny Heisman, who related the story to Camp. Seeing a way to open up the game and make it more exciting to fans, he agreed to legalize the forward pass. Along with the abolition of the Flying Wedge Formation and the adoption of heavy protective padding, changes designed to fix the ''other'' problem of players being killed and crippled, the forward pass is credited with saving the game of American football.

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* This was actually how American football's signature feature, the forward pass, came into being. In the early 20th Century, many colleges were considering abandoning Walter Camp's football code in favor of rugby. In a game between the University of North Carolina and the University of Georgia, a punter threw the ball towards a teammate down field downfield while trying to avoid getting creamed by an oncoming rush. The receiver made a 70-yard touchdown (including the pass) to win the game for the UNC Tarheels, 7-0. This was witnessed by one Johnny Heisman, who related the story to Camp. Seeing a way to open up the game and make it more exciting to fans, he agreed to legalize the forward pass. Along with the abolition of the Flying Wedge Formation and the adoption of heavy protective padding, changes designed to fix the ''other'' problem of players being killed and crippled, the forward pass is credited with saving the game of American football.
19th Oct '17 6:35:41 AM CosmicFerret
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* As with Guybrush, so too with George Stobart of ''BrokenSword''. Who else can discover an ancient artifact and escape an assassin with half a roll of hand-towels, a sturdy branch, a hand buzzer and a working knowledge of Latin?

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* As with Guybrush, so too with George Stobart Stobbart of ''BrokenSword''.''VideoGame/BrokenSword''. Who else can discover an ancient artifact and escape an assassin with half a roll of hand-towels, a sturdy branch, a hand buzzer and a working knowledge of Latin?
7th Oct '17 4:47:30 PM StClair
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--->'''Willie:''' OH MY GOD. Oh my god! Oh my god! (wraps rope around arm) Oh my god! Is he nuts?!

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--->'''Willie:''' OH MY GOD. Oh my god! Oh my god! (wraps (''wraps rope around arm) arm'') Oh my god! Is he nuts?!
7th Oct '17 4:46:46 PM StClair
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** In ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', Mac, who knows Indy, immediately assumes playing chicken with vehicles is a really bad idea, because Indy's going to pull something unexpected -- in this case, it turns out, pulling himself up and out of the car (this was taking place indoors) at the last moment and letting the crash happen.

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** In ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', Mac, who knows Indy, immediately assumes playing chicken with vehicles is a really bad idea, because Indy's going to pull something unexpected -- in this case, it turns out, pulling himself up and out of the car (this was taking place indoors) at the last moment and letting the crash happen.



--->(Willie sees Indy raising his sword and realizes what he's going to do)

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--->(Willie --->(''Willie sees Indy raising his sword and realizes what he's going to do) do'')



--->(Indy cuts the rope bridge with his sword and the bridge splits in half, sending the Thugees into the river below.)

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--->(Indy --->(''Indy cuts the rope bridge with his sword and the bridge splits in half, sending the Thugees into the river below.)'')
7th Oct '17 4:44:34 PM StClair
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** Amusingly enough, he is less than impressed when Finn reveals that his seeming plan to [[spoiler: infiltrate Starkiller base, disable its shields and rescue Rey]] is just one of these.

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** Amusingly enough, he is less than impressed when Finn reveals that his seeming plan to [[spoiler: [[spoiler:to infiltrate Starkiller base, disable its shields and rescue Rey]] is just one of these.
3rd Oct '17 2:58:21 PM Hjortron18
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* A celebrated military mind of the 19th century, German Generalfelmarschall [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_von_Moltke_the_Elder Hulmuth von Moltke the Elder]], said: "No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength." This is usually paraphrased as "no plan survives contact with the enemy." Even if you ''do'' have a plan, once things get started, it can only help so much.

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* A celebrated military mind of the 19th century, German Generalfelmarschall Generalfeldmarschall [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_von_Moltke_the_Elder Hulmuth von Moltke the Elder]], said: "No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength." This is usually paraphrased as "no plan survives contact with the enemy." Even if you ''do'' have a plan, once things get started, it can only help so much.
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