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19th Feb '18 1:49:29 PM WillKeaton
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** It is hinted in ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4267279/1/Hero_High_Sphinx_Academy Hero High: Sphinx Academy]]'' that Lady Karen has stronger feelings for her brother then brother and sister, especially on how much she likes it when he dotes on her. And the author isn't shy adding subtext for [[KissingCousins Ben and Gwen]].

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** It is hinted in ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4267279/1/Hero_High_Sphinx_Academy Hero High: Sphinx Academy]]'' that Lady Karen has stronger feelings for her brother then brother and sister, than is typical for siblings, especially on given how much she likes it when he dotes on her. And the author isn't shy adding subtext for [[KissingCousins Ben and Gwen]].
19th Feb '18 1:48:24 PM WillKeaton
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*** [[http://www.mangareader.net/rock-lees-springtime-of-youth/20/8 Issue 20]], where he hears the girls talking about Hinata's breasts getting bigger, and he has a severe nosebleed at that, while the other guys yell at him to get a hold of himself. See [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g08SaF2O2g this.]] [[http://jackoffjill21.tumblr.com/post/44239026098/i-think-neji-just-came And this.]]
*** In [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd0wJBuz718 episode 17]], the imaginary Neji and Hinata embrace lovingly as their lines are something like this:

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*** [[http://www.mangareader.net/rock-lees-springtime-of-youth/20/8 Issue 20]], 20,]] where he hears the girls talking about Hinata's breasts getting bigger, and he has a severe nosebleed at that, while the other guys yell at him to get a hold of himself. See [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g08SaF2O2g this.]] [[http://jackoffjill21.tumblr.com/post/44239026098/i-think-neji-just-came And this.]]
*** In [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd0wJBuz718 episode 17]], 17,]] the imaginary Neji and Hinata embrace lovingly as their lines are something like this:
17th Feb '18 5:15:19 PM rjd1922
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* ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'': Anyone familiar with clownfish biology is unlikely to avoid the creeps when watching it. Namely, and don't open the spoiler if you value your childhood, [[spoiler:only the alpha pair in a clownfish colony reproduce. What's more the only female is the alpha female: when it dies, the alpha male morphs into a female and the second-in-line male becomes the new alpha male and sires the new clownfish babies. In Finding Nemo, the rest of the family (colony) is destroyed: all that remains is Nemo's dad Marlin (now destined to become Nemo's ''mom''), and the only-other-male-of-the-colony Nemo, destined to become his new mom's reproductive partner. And when you think how small the colony was in the beginning... Nemo's actual mom might have been the brother or father of Marlin.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'': Anyone familiar with clownfish biology is unlikely to avoid the creeps when watching it. Namely, and don't open the spoiler if you value your childhood, [[spoiler:only the alpha pair in a clownfish colony reproduce. What's more the only female is the alpha female: when it dies, the alpha male [[GenderBender morphs into a female female]] and the second-in-line male becomes the new alpha male and sires the new clownfish babies. In Finding Nemo, ''Finding Nemo'', the rest of the family (colony) is destroyed: all that remains is Nemo's dad Marlin (now destined to become Nemo's ''mom''), and the only-other-male-of-the-colony Nemo, destined to become his new mom's reproductive partner. And when you think how small the colony was in the beginning... Coral, Nemo's actual mom mom, might have been the brother or father of Marlin.]]
10th Feb '18 11:09:30 PM Gamermaster
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* ''Manga/AneNaruMono'' has a lot of ship tease between Chiyo and Yuu, though they ''technically'' aren't siblings in any real sense of the word (she's a [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Great Old One]] who made a contract with him to act as his older sister rather than an actual relative). This isn't helped by the fact that [[BleachedUnderpants the series was originally a hentai]] before it was picked up for serialization.
30th Jan '18 8:35:47 AM DarkPhoenix94
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* In ''ComicBook/XMan'', there was a very strange example, even by the standards of both this trope and the Grey-Summers family tree - which used to be the trope namer for TangledFamilyTree - with Nate Grey and Maddie Pryor, as epitomised in [[https://78.media.tumblr.com/be441d5006070648c856e52f9415408b/tumblr_nmadcj8Zcs1rw95j3o1_1280.jpg this]] cover. For context, the redhead is Maddie Pryor - clone of Jean Grey, mother of Cable - and the guy with the SkunkStripe is Nate Grey - the teenage ''ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse'' counterpart of Cable, created from Jean and Scott's DNA. And yes, she is holding him with a suggestive expression while licking her lips, and yes, the cover does say "[[IfICantHaveYou If Madelyne Pryor can't have Nate... No one will!]]" Oh, and yes, they both know that they're related. Oh, and yes, they did become a FanPreferredCouple, according to the letters column, and the writing staff did seem amenable.
** Okay, further context: Nate wound up in the main Marvel Universe at the end of ''ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse'', and accidentally resurrected Maddie as a sort of psychic ghost, physically somewhere in her twenties. Maddie was amnesiac, Nate was unaware of his heritage. There was a LOT of ShipTease between them. Nate's internal monologue described her GreenEyes as 'beguiling', he talked about how she made him smile, and Maddie noted how there was something 'special' between them, remarking that their meeting was 'destiny', with more than one AlmostKiss between them. This could be taken as a RelationshipWritingFumble if it weren't for the fact that the writing staff enthusiastically encouraged it, the narration noting on their visit to Paris how 'they could be young lovers out for a stroll'. Anyway, thereafter, Maddie was lured away by Selene and got her powers and memories back, whereupon she popped in and out of Nate's life, acting as a textbook {{Tsundere}} towards an often bewildered Nate - sometimes helping him, sometimes not, and acting incredibly jealous whenever any woman showed even the slightest sign of interest in him (which was [[ChickMagnet frequently]]), to the point of ''murdering'' [[MurderTheHypotenuse her main theoretical rival, Threnody]]. Even after Nate figured out just who she was to him, and seemed to step very firmly back from any romance, Maddie's attitude didn't change all that much - and they shared a fairly romantic waltz shortly afterwards.
20th Jan '18 5:34:45 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* In 2014, it was implied that Samuel Shaw previously had sex with his mother, a redheaded woman named Christie. It was also implied to be the reason he was interested in a redheaded Wrestling/{{TNA}} interviewer named Christie, to the point he [[DrivenToSuicide threatened to commit suicide]] if she wouldn't agree to date him.

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* In 2014, it was implied that Samuel Shaw previously had sex with his mother, a redheaded woman named Christie. Christy. It was also implied to be the reason he was interested in a redheaded Wrestling/{{TNA}} interviewer named Christie, Wrestling/{{Christy|Hemme}}, to the point he [[DrivenToSuicide threatened to commit suicide]] if she wouldn't agree to date him.
11th Dec '17 3:27:52 AM Shadowgazer
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* The lions in ''Disney/TheLionKing'' too. The alpha male the lion king is the partner of all the women in the pride, and the father of all the children. Thereby, logic dictates that Mufasa is Nala's father, as well as Simba's making them half-siblings. We see both their moms as well, but never Nala's dad... {{Jossed}} according to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'' (Nala's father is shown as a cub), but the cartoon is in an AlternateUniverse from the films so it may not be movie canon.
10th Dec '17 1:52:15 PM nombretomado
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** DougWalker and his brother Rob. They managed to go from "I love you, man, you're a kick-ass brother" to "Gay ''and'' incestuous! You heard it here, folks!" in about two minutes, via a discussion of Doug's balls. The DVD also has Doug stripping slowly out of wet clothes while Rob films and hums supposedly stripper music, bantering back and forth with lines like "I'm saving this for our honeymoon" and "You know you want this shit."

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** DougWalker Creator/DougWalker and his brother Rob. They managed to go from "I love you, man, you're a kick-ass brother" to "Gay ''and'' incestuous! You heard it here, folks!" in about two minutes, via a discussion of Doug's balls. The DVD also has Doug stripping slowly out of wet clothes while Rob films and hums supposedly stripper music, bantering back and forth with lines like "I'm saving this for our honeymoon" and "You know you want this shit."
5th Dec '17 10:46:25 PM Eievie
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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia''. In the beginning of the third film, there is this scene where Lucy sees a girl flirting with a boy, then she does the exact same gesture that girl did... in front of Edmund. This results in him frowning confused and asking her what she's doing, to which she widens her eyes and blurts 'nothing' guiltily, giving the impression that [[AccidentalInnuendo she actually tried to flirt with him]] for a moment. (The explanation is given later.) When Edmund is tempted by evil again, he stares hungrily at Lucy and attempts to lure her [[WeCanRuleTogether into becoming rich and powerful along with him]], clearly showing that she's ''the only person'' he wants beside him when he plans to obtain power, with lines like "Lucy...we'd be so rich, no one could tell us what to do...or who to live with". It's even funnier knowing that Georgie Henley (who played Lucy) really did have a huge crush on Skander Keynes (who played Edmund). Of course, they aren't related in real life.

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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia''. ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'': In the beginning of the third film, there is this scene where Lucy sees a girl flirting with a boy, then she does the exact same gesture that girl did... in front of Edmund. This results in him frowning confused and asking her what she's doing, to which she widens her eyes and blurts 'nothing' guiltily, giving the impression that [[AccidentalInnuendo she actually tried to flirt with him]] for a moment. (The explanation is given later.) When Edmund is tempted by evil again, he stares hungrily at Lucy and attempts to lure her [[WeCanRuleTogether into becoming rich and powerful along with him]], clearly showing that she's ''the only person'' he wants beside him when he plans to obtain power, with lines like "Lucy...we'd w e'd be so rich, no one could tell us what to do...do... or who to live with". It's even funnier knowing that Georgie Henley (who played Lucy) really did have a huge crush on Skander Keynes (who played Edmund). Of course, they aren't related in real life.



* All ''over'' ''Series/TheBorgias'', but well, there's [[RealLifeWritesThePlot a reason for that]]. There's [[BigBrotherAttraction Cesare/Lucrezia]], where Lucrezia claims she'll never love a husband the way she loves Cesare, and where Cesare promises to cut her husband's heart out with a dinner knife; as of Season 3 Episode 3 [[spoiler:Lucrezia and Cesare have explicitly consummated their subtext]]. There's [[MommasBoy Vannozza/Cesare]], who spend the most time together of the parents/children and whom Cesare brings to Lucrezia's wedding despite his father's wishes. There's [[FoeYay Cesare/Juan]], with Juan getting the life Cesare wants and Cesare reluctantly cleaning up his brother's mistakes. And there's [[DaddysGirl Rodrigo/Lucrezia]], with their cuddling and kissing and the way Lucrezia clearly has her father wrapped around her little finger.

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* All ''over'' ''Series/TheBorgias'', but well, there's [[RealLifeWritesThePlot a reason for that]]. There's [[BigBrotherAttraction Cesare/Lucrezia]], where Lucrezia claims she'll never love a husband You've got the way she loves Cesare, and where Cesare promises to cut her husband's heart out with a dinner knife; as of main one--[[BigBrotherAttraction Cesare/Lucrezia]]--which [[spoiler:becomes canon in Season 3 Episode 3 [[spoiler:Lucrezia and Cesare have explicitly consummated their subtext]]. 3]]. But you've also got other examples which are most limited to subtext.
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There's [[MommasBoy Vannozza/Cesare]], who spend the most time together of the parents/children and whom Cesare brings to Lucrezia's wedding despite his father's wishes. wishes.
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There's [[FoeYay Cesare/Juan]], with Juan getting the life Cesare wants and Cesare reluctantly cleaning up his brother's mistakes. And there's mistakes.
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[[DaddysGirl Rodrigo/Lucrezia]], with their cuddling and kissing and the way Lucrezia clearly has her father wrapped around her little finger.



--->'''Monica:''' You were my Midnight Mystery Kisser?!
--->'''Ross:''' You were my first kiss with Rachel?!
--->'''Monica:''' You were my first kiss '''''ever'''''?!
--->'''Chandler:''' What have I married into?!

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--->'''Monica:''' You were my Midnight Mystery Kisser?!
--->'''Ross:'''
Kisser?!\\
'''Ross:'''
You were my first kiss with Rachel?!
--->'''Monica:'''
Rachel?!\\
'''Monica:'''
You were my first kiss '''''ever'''''?!
--->'''Chandler:'''
'''''ever'''''?!\\
'''Chandler:'''
What have I married into?!



* ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' featured in one episode the family of a Harvard alum, and his two children, a boy and a girl, who are weirdly close - from color coordinated outfits to alluded shared showers. When Lorelai and Rory come over to their place for lunch, Lorelai mercilessly mocks the issue in Rory's ears, much to to the latter's chagrin.

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* ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' featured in one episode the family of a Harvard alum, and his two children, a boy and a girl, who are weirdly close - from close--from color coordinated outfits to alluded shared showers. When Lorelai and Rory come over to their place for lunch, Lorelai mercilessly mocks the issue in Rory's ears, much to to the latter's chagrin.



* ''Series/{{Skins}}'' did this with both [[BrotherSisterIncest Tony and Effy]] in the first generation, and [[{{Twincest}} the Fitch twins]] in the second. At least the second example seems to be mostly one-directional from Katie to Emily; with the former, it comes off as an actual RelationshipWritingFumble on the part of the writers.

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* ''Series/{{Skins}}'' did this with both [[BrotherSisterIncest ''Series/{{Skins}}''
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Tony and Effy]] Effy in the first generation, and [[{{Twincest}} the Fitch twins]] in the second. At least the second example seems to be mostly one-directional from Katie to Emily; with the former, it generation. It comes off as an actual a RelationshipWritingFumble on the part of the writers.writers.
** The Fitch twins in the second. Seems to be mostly one-directional from Katie to Emily. This is odd because Katie is supposed to be the straight one, while we ''know'' Emily is gay.



* ''Series/HopeAndFaith'' has the titular two sisters being involved in a couple of moments. One episode has Faith pretend she and Hope are a lesbian couple. And another implies that Hope gave Faith a complete spray tan - this is given a Squicky reaction from Hope's husband.

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* ''Series/HopeAndFaith'' has the titular two sisters being involved in a couple of moments. One episode has Faith pretend she and Hope are a lesbian couple. And another implies that Hope gave Faith a complete spray tan - this tan--this is given a Squicky reaction from Hope's husband.
5th Dec '17 10:32:15 PM Eievie
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[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Characters with incestuous subtext in a story]]. Even though incest is a taboo in many places in the world, it is not entirely impossible that accidental subtext can sneak in unintentionally, or placed surreptitiously by authors.

This can originate from the author intentionally playing with the closeness of the characters' relationship and slipping into romance, even though nothing serious was supposed to come out of it. In some works, especially comedy ones, this is usually PlayedForLaughs involving LampshadeHanging, and can involve a DiggingYourselfDeeper speech: "It's NotWhatItLooksLike! She's my sister!" "...That's DISGUSTING!"

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[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Characters with incestuous subtext in a story]]. story.]] Even though incest is a taboo in many places in the world, it is not entirely impossible that accidental subtext can sneak in unintentionally, in, either unintentionally or placed surreptitiously by authors.

surreptitiously.

This can originate from the author intentionally playing with the closeness of the characters' relationship and slipping into romance, even though nothing serious was supposed to come out of it. In some works, especially comedy ones, this is usually PlayedForLaughs involving LampshadeHanging, and can involve a DiggingYourselfDeeper speech: "It's NotWhatItLooksLike! She's my sister!" "...That's that's DISGUSTING!"
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