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22nd Jul '17 12:52:40 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* This is played for laughs in the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "The Multiverse" where Stewie shows Brian an Earth where Christianity was never founded. Because there was no Dark Ages, humanity is 500 years ahead of "our" world as far as technology, health, and society goes, resulting in near-{{utopia}}. Meg is a beautiful woman with a flawless figure and hair (and ''still'' considered "ugly" by the standards of this world.) However, Quagmire is still the promiscuous pervert he always was. (But he's a little better off because at least an HIV cure is so common it's available over-the-counter.)
19th Jul '17 6:24:44 PM swarmsoflizards
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* The Creator/DonRosa 60th anniversary WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck story does this with a WonderfulLife scenario. Most everybody is miserable and worse off for Donald Duck never existing...except for Gladstone Gander, whose ridiculous luck keeps him the same well-off SmugSnake he always was.

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* The Creator/DonRosa 60th anniversary WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck story does this with a WonderfulLife scenario. Most everybody is miserable and worse off for Donald for Duck never existing...except for Gladstone Gander, whose ridiculous luck keeps him the same well-off SmugSnake he always was.


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* Purposely avoided in Claudia Gray's ''Firebird'' trilogy. The technology for an individual to transport their consciousness between universes exists, but travel is only possible between universes with a genetically identical counterpart of the traveler. This is taken advantage of in the third book by [[spoiler: Wicked, who attempts to kill herself in different universes and travel away at the last second, thus making it impossible for Marguerite to reach those universes]].
2nd Jul '17 9:15:35 PM MBG
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** In the film ''Bender's Big Score'', Bender goes back in time hundreds of times and steals all of history's great treasures, including the Mona Lisa, the mask of King Tut, Michelangelo's David, and a mess of other things. This doesn't change anything, because he's using "paradox-free" time travel, which invokes this trope - the universe automatically corrects any problems that would be created, usually by any spare temporal duplicates that can't be made part of a StableTimeLoop (for instance, if you traveled back in time and stopped yourself from traveling back in time) abruptly dying. Of course, at the end of the movie, he ends up creating ''hundreds'' of these temporal duplicates, in a manner that makes half the events of the movie impossible, [[RealityBreakingParadox at which the universe gives up and cracks open.]]
2nd Jul '17 9:51:20 AM Chabal2
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* The ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' book ''Elfangor's Secret'' opens in [[RubberBandHistory an alternate history]] where Visser Four traveled back in time and mucked with (among other things...) the American Revolution and World War II (and Agincourt, but that was because his [[PsychicStatic host body constantly recited]] ''HenryV'' to annoy him), trying to ensure that human society would be oppressive and backwards. He gets results, but all of the Animorphs are alive and superficially similar to their true selves -- Cassie (who is African-American) owns a slave, but her usual-timeline boyfriend, Jake, still considers turning her in to the police because he wonders if her softness towards her slaves means she's liberal and opposes the Empire. Also, BloodKnight Rachel is replaced by her friend Melissa Chapman, as this society "has no use for uppity, aggressive females," and she's in a reeducation camp being taught "her place." Toward the end, despite wildly different historical outcomes, the 1960's still features a free-love hippie commune.

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''Elfangor's Secret'' opens in [[RubberBandHistory an alternate history]] where Visser Four traveled back in time and mucked with (among other things...) the American Revolution and World War II (and Agincourt, but that was because his [[PsychicStatic host body constantly recited]] ''HenryV'' to annoy him), trying to ensure that human society would be oppressive and backwards. He gets results, but all of the Animorphs are alive and superficially similar to their true selves -- Cassie (who is African-American) owns a slave, but her usual-timeline boyfriend, Jake, still considers turning her in to the police because he wonders if her softness towards her slaves means she's liberal and opposes the Empire. Also, BloodKnight Rachel is replaced by her friend Melissa Chapman, as this society "has no use for uppity, aggressive females," and she's in a reeducation camp being taught "her place." Toward the end, despite wildly different historical outcomes, the 1960's still features a free-love hippie commune.



** Not sure if this is intentional, but another book [[FridgeBrilliance has an explanation for this]]. It turns out that the [[ChessMaster Ellimist]] made sure that those particular kids became friends and started fighting the Yeerks, no matter what the timeline.

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** *** Not sure if this is intentional, but another book [[FridgeBrilliance has an explanation for this]]. It turns out that the [[ChessMaster Ellimist]] made sure that those particular kids became friends and started fighting the Yeerks, no matter what the timeline.
** In said book, the Drode (on Crayak's orders) gives a particularly stressed-out Jake a chance to undo history by having the kids not acquire morphing powers (and the stress that goes with it). Jake accepts... and as a result, the Yeerk invasion is actually ''closer'' to being exposed and defeated than the main timeline despite Tobias being infested, Cassie is revealed to be a temporal anomaly (she "remembers" how things are supposed to go)... oh, and [[VitriolicBestBuds Rachel goes on a date with Marco]]. You can see why everyone agrees to return to the main
timeline.
27th Jun '17 8:53:26 PM MBG159
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** The ''Rose Potter'' series is fairly notorious for this, being a literal (as in, largely the same but with the pronouns swapped) rewrite of canon with Harry replaced by a female GodModeSue. This results in many places where Rose easily resolves something Harry failed to do in canon, but inexplicably still has to deal with the fallout - for instance, even after clearing Sirius Black's name, she still has to meet and contact him in secret as if he were still a wanted criminal.
26th Jun '17 11:03:08 AM DaibhidC
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** The ''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' novel ''Spiral Scratch'' is set in a number of parallel universes. In one where the Roman Empire never fell, the Doctor's friend DI Bob Lines still exists as Praetor Linus, and is still friends with that universe's Sixth Doctor. His slave Melina is that world's Melanie Bush, and becomes the Doctor's new companion, replacing a "savage from the New World" called Brown Perpigillium. In another reality, the Doctor's companion is a half-Silurian named Mel Baal, nicknamed Melanie.

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** The ''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' novel ''Spiral Scratch'' is set in a number of parallel universes. In one where the Roman Empire never fell, the Doctor's friend DI Bob Lines still exists as Praetor Linus, and is still friends with that universe's Sixth Doctor. His slave Melina is that world's Melanie Bush, and becomes the Doctor's new companion, replacing a "savage from the New World" called Brown Perpigillium. In another reality, the Doctor's companion is a half-Silurian [[HalfHumanHybrid half-Silurian]] named Mel Baal, nicknamed Melanie.
26th Jun '17 11:00:18 AM DaibhidC
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** The '''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' novel ''Spiral Scratch'' is set in a number of parallel universes. In one where the Roman Empire never fell, the Doctor's friend DI Bob Lines still exists as Praetor Linus, and is still friends with that universe's Sixth Doctor. His slave Melina is that world's Melanie Bush, and becomes the Doctor's new companion, replacing a "savage from the New World" called Brown Perpigillium. In another reality, the Doctor's companion is a half-Silurian named Mel Baal, nicknamed Melanie.

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** The '''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' ''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' novel ''Spiral Scratch'' is set in a number of parallel universes. In one where the Roman Empire never fell, the Doctor's friend DI Bob Lines still exists as Praetor Linus, and is still friends with that universe's Sixth Doctor. His slave Melina is that world's Melanie Bush, and becomes the Doctor's new companion, replacing a "savage from the New World" called Brown Perpigillium. In another reality, the Doctor's companion is a half-Silurian named Mel Baal, nicknamed Melanie.
26th Jun '17 10:58:55 AM DaibhidC
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** The '''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' novel ''Spiral Scratch'' is set in a number of parallel universes. In one where the Roman Empire never fell, the Doctor's friend DI Bob Lines still exists as Praetor Linus, and is still friends with that universe's Sixth Doctor. His slave Melina becomes the Doctor's new companion, replacing a "savage from the New World" called Brown Perpigillium. In another reality, the Doctor's companion is a half-Silurian named Mel Baal, nicknamed Melanie.

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** The '''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' novel ''Spiral Scratch'' is set in a number of parallel universes. In one where the Roman Empire never fell, the Doctor's friend DI Bob Lines still exists as Praetor Linus, and is still friends with that universe's Sixth Doctor. His slave Melina is that world's Melanie Bush, and becomes the Doctor's new companion, replacing a "savage from the New World" called Brown Perpigillium. In another reality, the Doctor's companion is a half-Silurian named Mel Baal, nicknamed Melanie.
26th Jun '17 10:37:35 AM DaibhidC
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* In the short story "The Haldenmor Fugue", from the ''Series/DoctorWho Storybook 2010'', the Doctor teams up with a 21st century woman called Carla to stop temporal incursions in her home city of Haldenmor. The result is that Haldenmor was a minor Viking settlement in the 10th century, and then disappeared from history. Nonetheless the Doctor tracks Carla down. It takes some doing, because in the new history "her ancestors moved to Brazil in 1600". What, ''all'' of them?

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In the short story "The Haldenmor Fugue", from the ''Series/DoctorWho Storybook 2010'', the Doctor teams up with a 21st century woman called Carla to stop temporal incursions in her home city of Haldenmor. The result is that Haldenmor was a minor Viking settlement in the 10th century, and then disappeared from history. Nonetheless the Doctor tracks Carla down. It takes some doing, because in the new history "her ancestors moved to Brazil in 1600". What, ''all'' of them?them?
** The '''Literature/PastDoctorAdventures'' novel ''Spiral Scratch'' is set in a number of parallel universes. In one where the Roman Empire never fell, the Doctor's friend DI Bob Lines still exists as Praetor Linus, and is still friends with that universe's Sixth Doctor. His slave Melina becomes the Doctor's new companion, replacing a "savage from the New World" called Brown Perpigillium. In another reality, the Doctor's companion is a half-Silurian named Mel Baal, nicknamed Melanie.
16th Jun '17 12:04:14 PM Dragon101
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* Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse: The Netflix shows take place in a New York City affected by [[Film/TheAvengers2012 "The Incident"]], however, evidence suggests that aside from the insertion of the invasion, the city's history has been unaltered. For instance, the Black Lives Matter movement is referenced in ''Series/LukeCage2016''. Likewise, ''Series/Daredevil2015'' shows that the Fall Experimental Football League[[note]]a failed minor league football franchise intent on being a professional feeder system for the NFL; it lasted from 2014 to 2016[[/note]] still happened, as Karen Page wears a Brooklyn Bolts T-shirt in one scene in season 1.

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* Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse: The Netflix shows take place in a New York City affected by [[Film/TheAvengers2012 "The Incident"]], however, evidence suggests that aside from the insertion of the invasion, the city's history has been unaltered. For instance, the Black Lives Matter movement is referenced in ''Series/LukeCage2016''. Likewise, ''Series/Daredevil2015'' shows that the Fall Experimental Football League[[note]]a failed minor league football franchise intent on being a professional feeder system for the NFL; it lasted from 2014 to 2016[[/note]] still happened, as Karen Page wears a Brooklyn Bolts T-shirt in one scene in season 1. The biggest difference is that the RealLife Hell's Kitchen has escaped it's crime and poverty-stricken past and a crime-fighting vigilante would be rather unnecessary, so the AlienInvasion is mentioned as having wrecked much of that area specifically ([FridgeLogic even though in the movie none of the fighting was nearby it]]), causing a rise in violent crime and gangsters again so that the story has some reason for being.



* ''Series/RedDwarf'' {{hand wave}}d this in one episode by specifically erasing two characters from history, yet having the two characters still running around trying to not be killed by the guy who erased them. They run into the main characters and find that their "twins" are slightly off and played by completely different people, like the "fraternal brothers" thing only even more distinct than that. Yet the ship still exists and the accident still happened and Dave Lister still managed to be frozen in stasis for three million years, etc.

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* ''Series/RedDwarf'' {{hand wave}}d this in one episode by specifically erasing two characters Kryten and Lister from history, yet having the two characters still running around trying to not be killed by the guy who erased them. They run into the main characters and find that their "twins" are slightly off and played by completely different people, like the "fraternal brothers" thing only even more distinct than that. Yet the ship still exists and the accident still happened and Dave Lister still managed to be frozen in stasis for three million years, etc. Ironically the RoboticPsychopath who erased Kryten and Lister did so specifically because he thought they were wasting their lives, yet their replacements were not different in any significant way at all.
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