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17th Jan '17 2:36:30 PM dmcreif
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* MarvelCinematicUniverse: The Netflix shows take place in a New York City affected by [[Film/TheAvengers2012 "The Incident"]], however, evidence suggests that aside from the insertion of the invasion, the city's history has been unaltered. For instance, the Black Lives Matter movement is referenced in ''Series/LukeCage2016''. Likewise, ''Series/Daredevil2015'' shows that the Fall Experimental Football League[[note]]a failed minor league football franchise intent on being a professional feeder system for the NFL; it lasted from 2014 to 2016[[/note]] still happened, as Karen Page wears a Brooklyn Bolts T-shirt in one scene in season 1.
1st Jan '17 10:09:05 AM MattP5557
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* In Film/MenInBlack3 K is [[RetGone erased from history by a time traveling Boris (the Animal)]], but somehow in the new time line J is still a MenInBlack agent.
17th Dec '16 11:01:32 PM X2X
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* ''EuropaUniversalis'' and its sequel feature historical events and rulers largely unchanged from our timeline, even in the default start. Mostly averted by the third game.

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* ''EuropaUniversalis'' ''VideoGame/EuropaUniversalis'' and its sequel feature historical events and rulers largely unchanged from our timeline, even in the default start. Mostly averted by the third game.



* In [[EternalDarkness Eternal Darkness]], three Ancients manipulated Pious Augustus in becoming their champion, but the parallel realities created by choosing one artifact instead of the two others, differs very little between them: you still end up fighting a undead roman centurion, while his patron deity still gets his ass kicked and horribly mutilated by the opposite one you summoned earlier. [[spoiler: Which then still proceeds to [[NiceJobBreakingItHero try and destroy the world and enslave humanity]], while your dead grandpa still fixes it for you]].

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* In [[EternalDarkness Eternal Darkness]], ''VideoGame/EternalDarkness'', three Ancients manipulated Pious Augustus in becoming their champion, but the parallel realities created by choosing one artifact instead of the two others, differs very little between them: you still end up fighting a undead roman centurion, while his patron deity still gets his ass kicked and horribly mutilated by the opposite one you summoned earlier. [[spoiler: Which then still proceeds to [[NiceJobBreakingItHero try and destroy the world and enslave humanity]], while your dead grandpa still fixes it for you]].



** Subverted by the fact that the first aligned rune you find is dependant on wich one you choose at the beginning (on a [[ElementalRockPaperScissors Rock Paper Scissors]] system from weakest to strongest against). Since it can help replenish health (VERY useful), sanity (useful if you're very low on it) or mana (worthless as it drains the same amount it replenishes), guess why people tend to leave Xel'lotath's artifact for last...

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** Subverted by the fact that the first aligned rune you find is dependant dependent on wich which one you choose at the beginning (on a [[ElementalRockPaperScissors Rock Paper Scissors]] system from weakest to strongest against). Since it can help replenish health (VERY useful), sanity (useful if you're very low on it) or mana (worthless as it drains the same amount it replenishes), guess why people tend to leave Xel'lotath's artifact for last...



* Life between [[spoiler:the two sides of the Earth]] in ''{{VideoGame/Persona 2}}'' is not that different, with the only major differences being that in ''Eternal Punishment'', there is now a sixth ward (Narumi), and the home lives of Eikichi, Lisa, and ''especially'' Jun are far better than they were in ''Innocent Sin.''

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* Life between [[spoiler:the two sides of the Earth]] in ''{{VideoGame/Persona ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' is not that different, with the only major differences being that in ''Eternal Punishment'', there is now a sixth ward (Narumi), and the home lives of Eikichi, Lisa, and ''especially'' Jun are far better than they were in ''Innocent Sin.''



** Speaking of ''Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire'', a small-scale example of this trope comes in the form the Battle Frontier seen in ''Emerald''. This facility, which was a replacement for/expansion of the Battle Tower from ''Ruby/Sapphire'', does not exist in the remakes' timeline, instead having been "replaced" by the Battle Resort. However, the Battle Resort itself is suggested to be the predecessor to the Battle Frontier, as a man at the Battle Maison located within the Resort appears to be recruiting for Scott, the Battle Frontier's owner, and mentions that the position of Pike Queen has been scouted, most likely referring to Lucy, the Frontier Brain of the same title in ''Emerald''.



* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' [[TheMultiverse multiverse]]. In the main story world Tedd has serious self-esteem issues. In the "[[AlternateUniverse alpha dimension]]" Tedd -- but not his friends -- exists and apparently has enough of self-esteem issues to flip out, become EvilOverlord and try to kill his alternates. In yet another AlternateUniverse ("Second Life") aliens fought in the American Revolutionary War, Ellen's best friend and crush are both [[HalfHumanHybrid Half-Human Hybrids]], but... guess what? Tedd still exists. And still has self-esteem issues.

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* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' [[TheMultiverse multiverse]]. In the main story world Tedd has serious self-esteem issues. In the "[[AlternateUniverse alpha dimension]]" [[AlternateUniverse "alpha dimension"]] Tedd -- but not his friends -- exists and apparently has enough of self-esteem issues to flip out, become EvilOverlord and try to kill his alternates. In yet another AlternateUniverse ("Second Life") aliens fought in the American Revolutionary War, Ellen's best friend and crush are both [[HalfHumanHybrid Half-Human Hybrids]], but... guess what? Tedd still exists. And still has self-esteem issues.
9th Dec '16 3:52:30 AM iroanxi
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* ''FanFic/ThisBites'':
** Cross' attempted interventions seem to result in keeping the crew safe…only for him to take the hit instead. This happens with [[spoiler:the prehistoric bacteria on Little Garden]], [[spoiler:the initial meeting with Mr. 2]] and [[spoiler:the 1st round of the Davy Back Fight]].
** Cross warns Vivi about the bomb in the clock tower ahead of time, and she includes that warning in her message to her father that she sends to Alubarna. Due to the moles in the Royal Army, Baroque Works gets wind of it, and the army they amass together with the Mr. 7 pair's sniping skills results in them guarding the bomb successfully against the siege until the war begins.
** As Vivi finds out, one of Cross's biggest fears in this world is, despite everything he's tried to do, failing to stop the Paramount War.
** Despite Cross's planning, [[ObsessedWithFood Luffy]] still ends up revealing himself to Jonathan.
** Cross manages to stop Foxy from shooting the horse Shelly, but after witnessing Foxy's callous attitude, Luffy still ends up accepting the Davy Back Fight anyway. When the rest confront him about it, Luffy says [[SmartBall that he already knows the Fight's risks from Shanks's stories]], but he also knows about the one-on-one Captain's Fight at the end, and he wants to beat up Foxy for pretending to be a pirate.
** [[spoiler:Despite Cross's promise, Merry's keel is still broken beyond all hope of saving.]]
** [[spoiler:Robin still hands herself over to [=CP9=] to keep the crew safe.]]
** A downplayed example: Shu still manages to rust part of Yubashiri's blade.
** [[spoiler:Despite Whitey and Squardo's assistance, Ace still loses to Blackbeard and is captured by the Marines... on account of Aokiji sticking his nose in at exactly the wrong moment.]]
4th Dec '16 7:14:45 AM ReaderAt2046
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* {{Lampshaded}} in ''Crisis on Two Equestrias''. When the Celestiaverse Twilight encounters the visitors from [[FanFic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse the Lunaverse]], she goes off on a rant about how despite the two universes having had radically different histories for the past millennium, the same ponies were still born, ended up in much the same places, and even developed recognizably similar personalities. She's well on her way to a full-fledged existential breakdown before Spike [[GetAholdOfYourselfMan helpfully pokes her]].
2nd Dec '16 11:33:15 PM tropeminer
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* In the AlternateUniverse of ''Film/AlmostNormal'', in spite of homosexuals being in the majority (with heterosexuals being the ostracized minority), the culture and society seems to (otherwise) be much of the same. Brad still exists, along with everyone else he knew. It's interesting to note that the homo/hetero flip has led to changes in French history.
* In the 2009 ''Film/StarTrek'' movie, no matter what the BigBad does, the original cast of ''[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]]'' ends up on the ''Enterprise'' in the spots they filled on the show. It's implied that his actions cause the group to coalesce ''sooner'' than they did in the original timeline.

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* In the AlternateUniverse of ''Film/AlmostNormal'', ''Almost Normal'', in spite of homosexuals being in the majority (with heterosexuals being the ostracized minority), the culture and society seems to (otherwise) be much of the same. Brad still exists, along with everyone else he knew. It's interesting to note that the homo/hetero flip has led to changes in French history.
* In the 2009 ''Film/StarTrek'' movie, no matter what the BigBad does, the original cast of ''[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]]'' [[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]] ends up on the ''Enterprise'' in the spots they filled on the show. It's implied that his actions cause the group to coalesce ''sooner'' than they did in the original timeline.
2nd Dec '16 11:26:24 PM tropeminer
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* In the 2009 ''Film/StarTrek'' movie, no matter what the BigBad does, the original cast of ''TOS'' ends up on the Enterprise in the spots they filled on the show. It's implied that his actions cause the group to coalesce ''sooner'' than they did in the original timeline.
** In the case of Chekov, it actually caused him to be ''born'' sooner. It's interesting to imagine that as soon as they heard the news about the destruction of the Kelvin, Chekov's parents' first reaction was "we should have sex!", and that's why Chekov is older in the new film.
*** This happened to Kirk as well who was born two months earlier than he should've been. Nero's arrival somehow caused Kirk's mom to go into labor (maybe intense stress or something) causing Kirk to be born in January instead of March like his original timeline counterpart. The novelization of the 2009 movie [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/James_T._Kirk_(alternate_reality) reveals]] that Kirk's mom had an inhibitor device to impede the pregnancy while she was still on assignment aboard the USS ''Kelvin''. However, as soon as Nero showed up, the impact of the ''Narada's'' weapons on the ship somehow caused the device to fail.

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* In the 2009 ''Film/StarTrek'' movie, no matter what the BigBad does, the original cast of ''TOS'' ''[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]]'' ends up on the Enterprise ''Enterprise'' in the spots they filled on the show. It's implied that his actions cause the group to coalesce ''sooner'' than they did in the original timeline.
** In the case of Chekov, it actually caused him to be ''born'' sooner. Chekov was originally born in 2245, but the new timestream pushed it forward to 2241. It's interesting to imagine that as soon as they heard the news about the destruction of the Kelvin, ''Kelvin'', Chekov's parents' first reaction was "we should have sex!", and that's why Chekov is older in the new film.
film.[[note]]The timeframe in the 2009 movie would've made Chekov 13 years old had his original year of birth remained.[[/note]]
*** This happened to Kirk as well who was born two months earlier than he should've would've been. Nero's arrival attack somehow caused Kirk's mom to go into labor (maybe intense stress or something) causing Kirk to be born in January instead of March like his original timeline counterpart. The novelization of the 2009 movie [[http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/James_T._Kirk_(alternate_reality) reveals]] that Kirk's mom had an inhibitor device to impede the pregnancy child's birth while she was still on assignment aboard the USS ''Kelvin''. However, as soon as Nero showed up, the impact of the ''Narada's'' weapons on the ship somehow caused the device to fail.
1st Dec '16 8:30:03 AM X2X
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* According to WordOfGod, the ''VideoGame/MegaManClassic'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' series are a divergence centering on what branch of research was primarily funded and which was cut, either robotics for the former or network A.I. for the latter. Somehow, most of the robots and A.I. in both universes share the same names, abilities, weapons, appearance, and general motif for no apparent reason, as well as most of the people involved are on their same respective sides of good and evil. Furthermore, Dr. Wily's ''Battle Network'' incarnation is a roboticist just like in the Classic series. Instead of trying to take over the world because of his jealousy towards Dr. Light, Wily

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* According to WordOfGod, the ''VideoGame/MegaManClassic'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' series are a divergence centering on what branch of research was primarily funded and which was cut, either robotics for the former or network A.I. for the latter. Somehow, most of the robots and A.I. in both universes share the same names, abilities, weapons, appearance, appearances, and general motif motifs for no apparent reason, as well as and most of the people involved are on their same respective sides of good and evil. Furthermore, Dr. Wily's ''Battle Network'' incarnation is a roboticist just like in the Classic series. Instead of trying to take over the world because of his jealousy towards Dr. Light, Light for being recognized by the scientific community over him, Wily retaliates against society for pushing internet technology over the field of robotics.
1st Dec '16 8:26:59 AM X2X
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* Most ComicBook {{Elseworld}}s suggest that, whatever else happens, the superheroes still exist (unless the absence of a given hero is The Difference). Particularly obvious in many of MarvelComics's ''Comicbook/{{Exiles}}'' storylines; in one the entire world has been under the control of Skrulls for the last century, humans have no access to technology, but apparently Peter Parker was still bitten by a radioactive spider.

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* Most ComicBook {{Elseworld}}s suggest that, whatever else happens, the superheroes still exist (unless the absence of a given hero is The Difference). Particularly obvious in many of MarvelComics's ''Comicbook/{{Exiles}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Exiles}}'' storylines; in one the entire world has been under the control of Skrulls for the last century, humans have no access to technology, but apparently Peter Parker was still bitten by a radioactive spider.



** This one is probably best handled in MarvelComics's ''[[ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}} Marvel 1602]]''. In this case, a foreign element (namely, [[spoiler:Captain America being sent backwards in time]]) has messed up history; the universe reacts, and "a season has dawned over three hundred years early: a season of heroes and marvels." Or more accurately, "heroes and Marvels."

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** This one is probably best handled in MarvelComics's ''[[ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}} Marvel 1602]]''.Creator/MarvelComics's ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}''. In this case, a foreign element (namely, [[spoiler:Captain America being sent backwards in time]]) has messed up history; the universe reacts, and "a season has dawned over three hundred years early: a season of heroes and marvels." Or more accurately, "heroes and Marvels."



*** Elseworlds stories that have Bruce Wayne becoming a different hero (or a different hero becoming Batman) will generally have the other hero's ArchRival becoming the Joker one way or another. In ''Speeding Bullets'' (in which [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Kal-El]] is adopted by the Waynes) has this happen to Lex Luthor, while ''In Darkest Knight'' (where Bruce Wayne gets Abin Sur's Franchise/GreenLantern ring) does it to Sinestro. The latter is especially notable because Bruce prevented [[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke Red Hood (Jack the comedian) from falling into a vat of chemicals]] earlier in the story.
* In ''Comicbook/AstroCity'', one of the powers of Samaritan (and his arch-enemy Infidel) is immunity to RetGone. Samaritan was originally sent back in time to prevent the Challenger explosion, and because of his meddling undoes his world's past, he was never born. No matter what happens to the timeline, Samaritan and Infidel will still exist. In fact, Infidel once destroyed all of space-time, and they ''still'' existed.
** Another ''Comicbook/AstroCity'' story, "The Nearness of You", averts the trope. A man is haunted by dreams of a woman that he has never met; he knows her well enough to draw her picture, yet utterly fails to track her down. A supernatural character explains to him that the woman is/was his beloved wife, erased in a time-war, and offers to erase his residual memories of her; he declines, and is told that "no one forgets".
* The Creator/DonRosa 60th anniversary DonaldDuck story does this with a WonderfulLife scenario. Most everybody is miserable and worse off for Donald Duck never existing...except for Gladstone Gander, whose ridiculous luck keeps him the same well-off SmugSnake he always was.

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*** Elseworlds stories that have Bruce Wayne becoming a different hero (or a different hero becoming Batman) will generally have the other hero's ArchRival ArchEnemy becoming the Joker one way or another. In ''Speeding Bullets'' (in which [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Kal-El]] is adopted by the Waynes) has this happen to Lex Luthor, while ''In Darkest Knight'' (where Bruce Wayne gets Abin Sur's Franchise/GreenLantern ring) does it to Sinestro. The latter is especially notable because Bruce prevented [[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke Red Hood (Jack the comedian) from falling into a vat of chemicals]] earlier in the story.
* In ''Comicbook/AstroCity'', ''ComicBook/AstroCity'', one of the powers of Samaritan (and his arch-enemy Infidel) is immunity to RetGone. Samaritan was originally sent back in time to prevent the Challenger explosion, and because of his meddling undoes his world's past, he was never born. No matter what happens to the timeline, Samaritan and Infidel will still exist. In fact, Infidel once destroyed all of space-time, and they ''still'' existed.
** Another ''Comicbook/AstroCity'' ''Astro City'' story, "The Nearness of You", averts the trope. A man is haunted by dreams of a woman that he has never met; he knows her well enough to draw her picture, yet utterly fails to track her down. A supernatural character explains to him that the woman is/was his beloved wife, erased in a time-war, and offers to erase his residual memories of her; he declines, and is told that "no one forgets".
* The Creator/DonRosa 60th anniversary DonaldDuck WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck story does this with a WonderfulLife scenario. Most everybody is miserable and worse off for Donald Duck never existing...except for Gladstone Gander, whose ridiculous luck keeps him the same well-off SmugSnake he always was.



*** ''ComicBook/SpiderGwen'' adds a third, where Gwen Stacy became Spider-Woman. Here, Peter turned himself into the Lizard... and died.

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*** ''ComicBook/SpiderGwen'' adds a third, where Gwen Stacy became Spider-Woman.ComicBook/SpiderWoman. Here, Peter turned himself into the Lizard... and died.



* In one ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' storyline, ComicBook/LexLuthor brought a team of evil Future Titans to kill Jaime Reyes aka ComicBook/BlueBeetle because no matter what he did to the timeline, [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Jaime refused to turn evil]].

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* In one ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' storyline, ComicBook/LexLuthor brought a team of evil Future Titans to kill Jaime Reyes aka ComicBook/BlueBeetle because no matter what he did to the timeline, [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Jaime refused to turn evil]].



* In ''[[ComicBook/{{Convergence}} Convergence #8]]'', [[spoiler:ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths is altered so that all the alternate Earths weren't destroyed]]. The end result is... [[spoiler: that the post-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' multiverse of 52 Earths is still there. Whether they developed from existing worlds in the multiverse or came into existence on their own is unclear, but the 52 end up happening one way or the other]].
* In IDW's "Deviations" event, we're shown heavy deviations from canon for five continuities: ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersMovie'', ''Comicbook/{{Ghostbusters}}'', ''Comicbook/GIJoeIDW'', ''ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIDW'' and ''Series/TheXFiles''. In three of them - ''Transformers, Ghostbusters'' and ''G.I. Joe'' - we see that even though [[spoiler:Optimus Prime lives, the Ghostbusters chicken out in crossing the streams and Cobra successfully take over the world with the M.A.S.S. Device]], canon sorts itself out and the original endings happen.

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* In ''[[ComicBook/{{Convergence}} Convergence #8]]'', [[spoiler:ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths ''ComicBook/{{Convergence}}'' #8, [[spoiler:''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is altered so that all the alternate Earths weren't destroyed]]. The end result is... [[spoiler: that the post-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' multiverse of 52 Earths is still there. Whether they developed from existing worlds in the multiverse or came into existence on their own is unclear, but the 52 end up happening one way or the other]].
* In IDW's "Deviations" event, we're shown heavy deviations from canon for five continuities: ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersMovie'', ''Comicbook/{{Ghostbusters}}'', ''Comicbook/GIJoeIDW'', ''ComicBook/{{Ghostbusters}}'', ''ComicBook/GIJoeIDW'', ''ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIDW'' and ''Series/TheXFiles''. In three of them - ''Transformers, Ghostbusters'' and ''G.I. Joe'' - -- we see that even though [[spoiler:Optimus Prime lives, the Ghostbusters chicken out in crossing the streams and Cobra successfully take over the world with the M.A.S.S. Device]], canon sorts itself out and the original endings happen.



* According to WordOfGod, the MegaManBattleNetwork and VideoGame/MegaManClassic series are a divergence centering on what branch of research was primarily funded and which was cut, either Network AI for the former or Robotics for the latter. Somehow, most of the Robots and AIs in both universes share the same names, abilities, weapons, appearance, and general motif for no apparent reason, as well as most of the people involved are on their same respective sides of good and evil.
* The Delta Episode of ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' implies this of the Pokemon timelines: the mechanic of Mega Evolution, discovered in the ancient past by [[BigDamnHeroes Rayquaza putting a stop to the end of the world,]] is a well-hidden secret, though numerous trainers or varying degrees of skill and plot importance have access to it. The Delta Episode implies the existence of [[RetCon another world, almost identical,]] where Mega Evolution wasn't discovered - this world being the setting for all games prior to Generation VI. Aside from a few details, the same trainers exist and operate in almost the same capacity without the [[SuperMode Mega Evolved Pokemon,]] many of which are drastically different or have [[OlympusMons world-ending power.]]

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* According to WordOfGod, the MegaManBattleNetwork ''VideoGame/MegaManClassic'' and VideoGame/MegaManClassic ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' series are a divergence centering on what branch of research was primarily funded and which was cut, either Network AI robotics for the former or Robotics network A.I. for the latter. Somehow, most of the Robots robots and AIs A.I. in both universes share the same names, abilities, weapons, appearance, and general motif for no apparent reason, as well as most of the people involved are on their same respective sides of good and evil.
evil. Furthermore, Dr. Wily's ''Battle Network'' incarnation is a roboticist just like in the Classic series. Instead of trying to take over the world because of his jealousy towards Dr. Light, Wily
* The Delta Episode of ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]'' implies this of the Pokemon ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' timelines: the mechanic of Mega Evolution, discovered in the ancient past by [[BigDamnHeroes Rayquaza putting a stop to the end of the world,]] world]], is a well-hidden secret, though numerous trainers or Trainers of varying degrees of skill and plot importance have access to it. The Delta Episode implies the existence of [[RetCon [[AlternateUniverse another world, almost identical,]] identical]], where Mega Evolution wasn't discovered - -- this world being the setting for all games prior to Generation VI. VI (with ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' showing that [[ForWantOfANail the catalyst]] for Mega Evolution itself was [[spoiler:the firing of AZ's ultimate weapon 3,000 years earlier]]). Aside from a few details, the same trainers Trainers exist and operate in almost the same capacity without the [[SuperMode Mega Evolved Pokemon,]] Pokémon]], many of which are drastically different or have [[OlympusMons world-ending power.]]power]].



* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' [[TheMultiverse multiverse]]. In the main story world Tedd has serious self-esteem issues. In the "[[AlternateUniverse alpha dimension]]" Tedd -- but not his friends -- exists and apparently has enough of self-esteem issues to flip out, become EvilOverlord and try to kill his alternates. In yet another AlternateUniverse ("Second Life") aliens fought in the American Revolutionary War, Ellen's best friend and crush are both {{Half Human Hybrid}}s, but... guess what? Tedd still exists. And still has self-esteem issues.
** I think Dan said, at some point, that every possible dimension has a Tedd.

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* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' [[TheMultiverse multiverse]]. In the main story world Tedd has serious self-esteem issues. In the "[[AlternateUniverse alpha dimension]]" Tedd -- but not his friends -- exists and apparently has enough of self-esteem issues to flip out, become EvilOverlord and try to kill his alternates. In yet another AlternateUniverse ("Second Life") aliens fought in the American Revolutionary War, Ellen's best friend and crush are both {{Half Human Hybrid}}s, [[HalfHumanHybrid Half-Human Hybrids]], but... guess what? Tedd still exists. And still has self-esteem issues.
** I think Dan said, at some point, that every possible dimension has a Tedd.
30th Nov '16 10:19:17 AM Nentuaby
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** Most people in-universe think that the secession of New England was inevitable, going as far as stating that ** Americans and Yankees are different people.

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** Most people in-universe think that the secession of New England was inevitable, going as far as stating that ** Americans "Americans and Yankees are different people."
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