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19th Apr '18 8:54:04 PM MasterN
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This is when someone -- usually a villain -- grabs hold of the IdiotBall, and denies information in such a fashion that ''states exactly what is allegedly being denied''. For example, Alice has defeated Bob, TheDragon, whose boss has kidnapped Carol. Alice demands to know where Carol is, but Bob just smirks at her and says, "Ha! I'll never tell you that she's in the warehouse in Somewhere City!"

A sort of AccidentalPublicConfession, with a little SuspiciouslySpecificDenial thrown in for good measure. If the person is doing this ''deliberately'' and therefore is not being stupid at all, it's CouldSayItBut instead of this trope. Or it could be a variation where the villain has a gun in his face and he's a coward and only acts as if this is the case. If the person saying this is not a ''complete'' moron, he may follow it with "DidIJustSayThatOutLoud".

A [[GenreSavvy sufficiently clever villain]] may give out a ''lie'' in this manner, expecting the heroes to think that he just accidentally told the truth.

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This is when someone -- [[VillainBall usually a villain villain]] -- grabs hold of the IdiotBall, and denies information in such a fashion that ''states exactly what is allegedly being denied''. For example, Alice has defeated Bob, TheDragon, whose boss has kidnapped Carol. Alice demands to know where Carol is, but Bob just smirks at her and says, "Ha! I'll never tell you that she's in the warehouse in Somewhere City!"

A sort of AccidentalPublicConfession, with a little SuspiciouslySpecificDenial thrown in for good measure. If the person is doing this ''deliberately'' and therefore is not being stupid at all, it's CouldSayItBut instead of this trope. Or it could be a variation where the villain has a gun in his face and he's a coward and only acts as if this is the case. If the person saying this is not a ''complete'' moron, he they may follow it with "DidIJustSayThatOutLoud".

A [[GenreSavvy sufficiently clever clever]] [[MagnificentBastard villain]] may give out a ''lie'' in this manner, expecting the heroes to think that he they just accidentally told the truth.
19th Apr '18 8:52:43 PM MasterN
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A sufficiently clever villain may give out a ''lie'' in this manner, expecting the heroes to think that he just accidentally told the truth.

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A [[GenreSavvy sufficiently clever villain villain]] may give out a ''lie'' in this manner, expecting the heroes to think that he just accidentally told the truth.
6th Mar '18 5:46:19 AM StFan
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->'''Nazi Captain:''' (''to Pvt. Pike'') Your name vill also go on ze list! What is it?\\

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->'''Nazi Captain:''' (''to ''[to Pvt. Pike'') Pike]'' Your name vill also go on ze list! What is it?\\



!!Examples

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!!Examples
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'''Lan and Maylu:''' ''(SweatDrop and FaceFault)''
* ''Manga/OnePiece''

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'''Lan and Maylu:''' ''(SweatDrop ''[SweatDrop and FaceFault)''
FaceFault]''
* ''Manga/OnePiece''''Manga/OnePiece'':



* In an episode early in the second season of ''Manga/SgtFrog'', Keroro leaves a robotic copy of himself to head the invasion so he can go to the amusment park and see the Java Risers live show. After discovering the robot, Giroro presses Tamama to tell him where Keroro went. Tamama replies by saying that he'll never tell them that Keroro's at the amusment park. Later in the episode, Tamama finds a candy house and assumes it's a gift from Keroro for keeping his secret. This adds on to an already-established gag of Tamama not being able to keep secrets.

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* In an episode early in the second season of ''Manga/SgtFrog'', Keroro leaves a robotic copy of himself to head the invasion so he can go to the amusment amusement park and see the Java Risers live show. After discovering the robot, Giroro presses Tamama to tell him where Keroro went. Tamama replies by saying that he'll never tell them that Keroro's at the amusment amusement park. Later in the episode, Tamama finds a candy house and assumes it's a gift from Keroro for keeping his secret. This adds on to an already-established gag of Tamama not being able to keep secrets.



* The very first appearance of Mr. Mxyzptlk in the comic book ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'' is a textbook example of this trope, when the imp declares, "Ha! You thought you could trick me into telling you that the magic word is 'Kltpzyxm'!"(poof). Also played with in the animated series:

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* The very first appearance of Mr. Mxyzptlk in the comic book ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'' is a textbook example of this trope, when the imp declares, "Ha! You thought you could trick me into telling you that the magic word is 'Kltpzyxm'!"(poof).'Kltpzyxm'!" (poof). Also played with in the animated series:



'''Mxyzptlk:''' '''''KLTPZYXM!''''' ''Gosh'', you're thick! Now, for the last time... (''realizes'') ahh nuts! (''disappears'')\\
(''ninety days later'')\\
'''Mxyzptlk:''' (''reappearing in the bathroom mirror'') Hi guy! Your three months are up, and ''this'' time, you're not gonna cheat me out of my fun!\\

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'''Mxyzptlk:''' '''''KLTPZYXM!''''' ''Gosh'', you're thick! Now, for the last time... (''realizes'') ''[realizes]'' ahh nuts! (''disappears'')\\
(''ninety
''[disappears]''\\
''[ninety
days later'')\\
later]''\\
'''Mxyzptlk:''' (''reappearing ''[reappearing in the bathroom mirror'') mirror]'' Hi guy! Your three months are up, and ''this'' time, you're not gonna cheat me out of my fun!\\



*** Inverted during Blackadder's subsequent court martial, when 'decisive witness' Baldrick is told to [[LiteralMinded "deny everything."]]
---> '''George (as Blackadder's defence):''' "Are you Private Baldrick?"
---> '''Baldrick:''' "No!"
---> '''George:''' "Um... But you are Captain Blackadder's batman..."
---> '''Baldrick:''' "No!"
---> '''George:''' "Come on, Baldrick, be a bit more helpful - it's me!"
---> '''Baldrick:''' "No it isn't!"

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*** ** Inverted during Blackadder's subsequent court martial, when 'decisive witness' "decisive witness" Baldrick is told to [[LiteralMinded "deny everything."]]
---> '''George (as --->'''George:''' ''[as Blackadder's defence):''' "Are defence]'' Are you Private Baldrick?"
--->
Baldrick?\\
'''Baldrick:''' "No!"
--->
No!\\
'''George:''' "Um...Um... But you are Captain Blackadder's batman..."
--->
\\
'''Baldrick:''' "No!"
--->
No!\\
'''George:''' "Come Come on, Baldrick, be a bit more helpful - -- it's me!"
--->
me!\\
'''Baldrick:''' "No No it isn't!"isn't!



-->Lynette: No, my favorite thing is to think all of the things I want to say to you but don't. Like "Pipe down, you annoying nutjob!" I'd never say that.

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-->Lynette: -->'''Lynette:''' No, my favorite thing is to think all of the things I want to say to you but don't. Like "Pipe down, you annoying nutjob!" I'd never say that.



* ''Series/DoctorWho''

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' :



'''Doctor:''' (''quietly'') Oh, God. (''louder'') I mean, no -- and anyway they're voice-locked.\\
'''Amy:''' (''laughs'') Oh, voice-locked. So I'd just have to say "Show me all visual records of previous TARDIS inhabitants"?\\
'''Doctor:''' No, nonono, I mean voice-locked. '''I''' would have to say, "Show me all visual records of previous TARDIS inhabitants."\\

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'''Doctor:''' (''quietly'') '''The Doctor:''' ''[quietly]'' Oh, God. (''louder'') ''[louder]'' I mean, no -- and anyway they're voice-locked.\\
'''Amy:''' (''laughs'') ''[laughs]'' Oh, voice-locked. So I'd just have to say "Show me all visual records of previous TARDIS inhabitants"?\\
'''Doctor:''' '''The Doctor:''' No, nonono, I mean voice-locked. '''I''' would have to say, "Show me all visual records of previous TARDIS inhabitants."\\



'''Doctor:''' No, no! No! No!
* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Doctor Bashir's father comes into the public medical facility and proceeds to say to what he thinks is his son, "Don't worry, I'll never tell anyone <detailed explanation of big secret>" Slightly more of an AccidentalPublicConfession, but wins extra idiot points for pretty much explicitly I'll Never Say What I'm Saying Right Now.
-->'''Amsha:''' What he's trying to say is, we would never do anything to jeopardise your career.\\

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'''Doctor:''' [[RapidFireNo No, no! No! No!
No!]]
* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Doctor Bashir's father comes into the public medical facility and proceeds to say to what he thinks is his son, "Don't worry, I'll never tell anyone <detailed explanation of big secret>" Slightly more of an AccidentalPublicConfession, but wins extra idiot points for pretty much explicitly I'll Never Say What I'm Saying Right Now.
Now. [[spoiler:Well, part of the problem was that what he thought was the real Julian was actually the holographic model based on him, which was being controlled from the other room by O'Brien and Zimmerman. But even if it had been the real Julian, the fact that they just blurt it out in the middle of the Infirmary where anyone could walk in and overhear begs the question of ''how'' they managed to keep the secret for a quarter of a century.]]
-->'''Amsha:''' What he's trying to say is, we would never do anything to jeopardise jeopardize your career.\\



** Well, part of the problem was that what he thought was the real Julian was actually the holographic model based on him, which was being controlled from the other room by O'Brien and Zimmerman. But even if it had been the real Julian, the fact that they just blurt it out in the middle of the Infirmary where anyone could walk in and overhear begs the question of ''how'' they managed to keep the secret for a quarter of a century.



-->'''Penny:''' (''inside a restaurant'') Look, why is it so hard for you to keep one little secret?\\

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-->'''Penny:''' (''inside ''[inside a restaurant'') restaurant]'' Look, why is it so hard for you to keep one little secret?\\



'''Penny:''' (''{{jaw drop}}'')\\

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'''Penny:''' (''{{jaw drop}}'')\\''[{{jaw drop}}]''\\



* The episode of ''Series/FamilyMatters'' "Life of the Party" has this exchange:

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* ''Series/FamilyMatters'':
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The episode of ''Series/FamilyMatters'' "Life of the Party" has this exchange:



* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum''

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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum''''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'':



* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''

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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'':



-->'''Eggman:''' Did you really think you could trick me with that fake Emerald?\\

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-->'''Eggman:''' --->'''Eggman:''' Did you really think you could trick me with that fake Emerald?\\



* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''

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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'':



* In ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'', Alec confronts Lucas regarding Claus's whereabouts (this is before Lucas becomes a HeroicMime). He says:

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'', ''VideoGame/Mother3'', Alec confronts Lucas regarding Claus's whereabouts (this is before Lucas becomes a HeroicMime). He says:



* ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' has Durk the Deranged, a clever but mentally ill resident of Stormreach. Pretending to know his "secret", he explains that there's no way you could know that the two Kobold chieftain brothers in the slime infested sewers are having a feud and that therefore it would be the perfect time to take out both sides. And he'll never tell you that either.

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* ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' has Durk the Deranged, a clever but mentally ill resident of Stormreach. Pretending to know his "secret", he explains that there's no way you could know that the two Kobold chieftain brothers in the slime infested slime-infested sewers are having a feud and that therefore it would be the perfect time to take out both sides. And he'll never tell you that either.



* Detective Dick Gumshoe from ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' has this as a habit. He usually reveals secret details about a murder investigation to Phoenix, all while thinking he's successfully concealing the info from him. In his first occurence, Gumshoe reveals the name of the prosecution's witness and the fact that she's still in the hotel next to Phoenix's office.



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* Detective Dick Gumshoe from ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' has this as a habit. He usually reveals secret details about a murder investigation to Phoenix, all while thinking he's successfully concealing the info from him. In his first occurence, Gumshoe reveals the name of the prosecution's witness and the fact that she's still in the hotel next to Phoenix's office.
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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':



(''in the next panel, the innkeeper is seen scribbling down notes'')\\

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(''in ''[in the next panel, the innkeeper is seen scribbling down notes'')\\notes]''\\



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[[folder: Web [[folder:Web Original]]



* The ''WebOriginal/SCPFoundation'' entry [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4357-j SCP-4357-J]] is a demon that keeps mocking the Foundation employees for the insufficient attempts they make at containing it. And, in the process, keeps revealing how to make its containment more effective. In some cases, it improves its own containment itself. Once it is so thoroughly contained that it cannot escape, it is asked why it didn't escape before all the changes to its containment were made. Cue {{Angrish}} as the demon realizes that it has no good answer.
-->'''SCP-4357-J:''' Shit, man, where's the goddamned summoning circle? Or the protective hexagram? You guys don't know jackshit. Hell, go get me some chalk and I'll show you myself! ''{does so}'' And THAT is how you make a proper summoning circle. All the runes in place, everything nice and neat. NOW, if I step in it like this, it'll be hard for me to get out!\\
''SCP-4357-J tries to step out of the circle and bumps against an unseen barrier.''\\

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* The ''WebOriginal/SCPFoundation'' ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'' entry [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-4357-j SCP-4357-J]] is a demon that keeps mocking the Foundation employees for the insufficient attempts they make at containing it. And, in the process, keeps revealing how to make its containment more effective. In some cases, it improves its own containment itself. Once it is so thoroughly contained that it cannot escape, it is asked why it didn't escape before all the changes to its containment were made. Cue {{Angrish}} as the demon realizes that it has no good answer.
-->'''SCP-4357-J:''' Shit, man, where's the goddamned summoning circle? Or the protective hexagram? You guys don't know jackshit. Hell, go get me some chalk and I'll show you myself! ''{does so}'' ''[does so]'' And THAT is how you make a proper summoning circle. All the runes in place, everything nice and neat. NOW, if I step in it like this, it'll be hard for me to get out!\\
''SCP-4357-J ''[SCP-4357-J tries to step out of the circle and bumps against an unseen barrier.''\\barrier]''\\



* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':



* ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''

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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''



* This was done in a ''WesternAnimation/SylvesterTheCatAndTweetyBird'' cartoon. Sylvester has immobilized the dogs in a dog pound, and Tweety wants to know how to break the spell. Sylvester's reply: "You expect me to tell you that the only way to wake them up is with a police whistle?"
** Sylvester then clamps an upside-down glass over Tweety while the bird was in his paw, silencing Tweety's whistle. Unfortunately for Sylvester, Tweety happens to have a straight-pin with him.

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* This was done in a ''WesternAnimation/SylvesterTheCatAndTweetyBird'' cartoon. Sylvester has immobilized the dogs in a dog pound, and Tweety wants to know how to break the spell. Sylvester's reply: "You expect me to tell you that the only way to wake them up is with a police whistle?"
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whistle?" Sylvester then clamps an upside-down glass over Tweety while the bird was in his paw, silencing Tweety's whistle. Unfortunately for Sylvester, Tweety happens to have a straight-pin with him.him.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSylvesterAndTweetyMysteries'': Pepe Le Pew stole all the perfume of Paris and replaced it with his own smell. When caught, he said he'd not reveal it's hidden at the old chocolate factory.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheSylvesterAndTweetyMysteries'': Pepe Le Pew stole all the perfume of Paris and replaced it with his own smell. When caught, he said he'd not reveal it's hidden at the old chocolate factory.
* In an episode of WesternAnimation/CareBears, Treatheart and a young girl are in No-Heart's castle, trying to find a potion that will help them shrink giant vines that have captured their friends, when Beastly appears. They ask him if he knows where it is and Beastly says that he is not going to tell them that it is "next to the dumb-dumb pills."

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSylvesterAndTweetyMysteries'': Pepe Le Pew stole all the perfume of Paris and replaced it with his own smell. When caught, he said he'd not reveal it's hidden at the old chocolate factory.
* In an episode of WesternAnimation/CareBears, ''WesternAnimation/CareBears'', Treatheart and a young girl are in No-Heart's castle, trying to find a potion that will help them shrink giant vines that have captured their friends, when Beastly appears. They ask him if he knows where it is and Beastly says that he is not going to tell them that it is "next to the dumb-dumb pills."



18th Feb '18 6:46:02 PM CompletelyNormalGuy
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* An odd meta-textual example from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'': During the non-canon "Goonmanji 2" arc, Hanma the immortal greets Ashley and Liz by pointing out that you aren't allowed to spoil canon events in a non-canon story, "and therefore no acknowledgement should be made as to whether you've seen me at an anime convention before." Nobody in-story points out her mistake.
21st Jan '18 5:08:54 PM Iliarts
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** Well, part of the problem was that what he thought was the real Julian was actually the holographic model based on him, which was being controlled from the other room by O'Brien and Zimmerman. But even if it had been the real Julian, the fact that they just blurt it out in the middle of the Infirmary where anyone could walk in and overhear begs the question of ''how'' they managed to keep the secret for a quarter of a century.
7th Jan '18 6:33:26 AM Ccook1956
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* An installment of ''The Secret Adventures of the Tooth Fairy'' (a syndicated five-minute comedy interstitial) had a dentist trying to guess the famous person locked in the broom closet. He by-chance met the famous person, Thomas Edison, and is sworn to keep it a secret. The nurse is doubtfully curious:
-->'''Nurse Turken:''' Doctor...are you trying to tell me that Thomas Edison is in the broom closet?\\
'''Dentist:''' No, I'm not. I swore to keep it a secret.
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21st Oct '17 10:04:01 PM HeroicJay
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* In ''Series/PowerRangersNinjaSteel'', a MonsterOfTheWeek is asked why he has a giant clock in his chest. His response? "I'll never tell you about the source of all my evil power!" Cue an attack aimed right at the clock while the monster futilely tries to backtrack.
5th Oct '17 12:04:44 PM CaptainTedium
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GravedaleHigh'' episode "Night of the Living Dad", Gill Waterman accidentally lets slip that Marty is a fake dad that Frankentyke made to prevent everyone from finding out that his real dad is the human scientist who created him.
-->'''Gill''': I'm not telling you about the monster dad Frankentyke made because he was ashamed of his real dad.
4th Oct '17 5:45:38 AM tropower
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** [[OurLawyersAdvisedThisTrope On the advice of our lawyers]], we swear we have never heard of a musical based on the life of Eva Perón.

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** [[OurLawyersAdvisedThisTrope On the advice of our lawyers]], we swear we have never heard of [[Theatre/{{Evita}} a musical musical]] based on the life of [[UsefulNotes/EvaPeron Eva Perón.Perón]].
29th Sep '17 5:15:01 AM ClatoLawa
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* ''ComicBook/{{Impulse}}'' #77 (part of the ''ComicBook/OurWorldsAtWar'' crossover) opens with this from the narrator:
-->"Okay, let's say, just for the sake of argument, that you ''haven't'' already read the first part of this star-spanning saga in the pages of ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'' #36 (still on sale!)...\\
And let's say that you ''don't'' know that the entire Young Justice gang has crash-landed on the volatile and unforgiving surface of Apokolips, home of the dark god Darkseid and about a million other unpleasant people...\\
And let's just assume that you don't know that, following the crash, Superboy and Robin had a fight over priorities and the team split up: Robin's team to stay with the downed ship and effect repairs...\\
... Superboy's team striking out across the harsh terrain in search of the fallen hero Steel, whose seemingly lifeless body was seen being spirited away by the grim herald of death, the Black Racer!\\
Well, if you don't know all that, ''we're'' not gonna tell ya.\\
Man, we'd hate to be you...
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