History Main / IfJesusThenAliens

13th Jan '17 10:02:54 PM Doug86
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** Here's an example from ''JLA.''

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** Here's an example from ''JLA.''''JLA''.



* This is ultimately the crux of the judge's decision regarding the existence of Santa Claus in the climax of the remake of ''Film/MiracleOn34thStreet'': If the U.S. government has the wherewithal to put "In God We Trust" on their money, then who is he to declare false the faith that Kris Kringle is Santa Claus?

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* This is ultimately the crux of the judge's decision regarding the existence of Santa Claus in the climax of the remake of ''Film/MiracleOn34thStreet'': ''Film/MiracleOnThirtyFourthStreet'': If the U.S. government has the wherewithal to put "In God We Trust" on their money, then who is he to declare false the faith that Kris Kringle is Santa Claus?
5th Nov '16 9:27:53 PM zunger
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** This was the reasoning used to condemn [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno Giordano Bruno's]] belief in the existence of other worlds as heresy, and him to the stake, in [[RealLife Real Life]].
27th Oct '16 11:45:46 PM Mhazard
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* Christians who take the Bible in its most literal form usually do ''not'' believe in aliens due to the fact that Jesus came to Earth in human form and died in that form, and has forever taken on physical human form after rising from the dead. Why would He take on the form of a human, permanently, if there are other forms of life in the universe that don't look human? Why would he come to just one planet if others had life? Did literally none of those planets have a fall from grace? Also, as God proclaimed man to be made in His image, this precludes the idea of intelligent forms of life that look different from "the image of God". In this case, it is If Jesus, then Not Aliens.

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* Christians who take the Bible in its most literal form usually do ''not'' believe in aliens due to the fact that Jesus came to Earth in human form and died in that form, and has forever taken on physical human form after rising from the dead. Why would He take on the form of a human, permanently, if there are other forms of life in the universe that don't look human? Why would he come to just one planet if others had life? Did literally none of those planets have a fall from grace? Also, as God proclaimed man to be made in His image, this precludes the idea of intelligent forms of life that look different from "the image of God". In this case, it is If Jesus, then [[AvertedTrope Not Aliens.Aliens]].
4th Jul '16 3:20:07 PM TVRulezAgain
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** In Creator/TimBurton's ''{{Batman}}'' (1989), [[AgentMulder Alexander Knox]] is mocked by his fellow reporters for believing that there is a "Bat-Man." They joke that he must believe in Bigfoot too.
** Similarly, an early scene in ''TheDarkKnight'' suggested that anyone who believes in Batman not only also believes in Bigfoot, but furthermore believes that Creator/ElvisPresley and AbrahamLincoln are still alive.

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** In Creator/TimBurton's ''{{Batman}}'' ''Film/{{Batman}}'' (1989), [[AgentMulder Alexander Knox]] is mocked by his fellow reporters for believing that there is a "Bat-Man." They joke that he must believe in Bigfoot too.
** Similarly, an early scene in ''TheDarkKnight'' ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' suggested that anyone who believes in Batman not only also believes in Bigfoot, but furthermore believes that Creator/ElvisPresley and AbrahamLincoln UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln are still alive.
21st Jun '16 1:19:10 AM 10-13-2
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* At least two ''Batman'' films - in different continuities - have played this up, with Jesus swapped for You-Know-Who.
** In Creator/TimBurton's ''{{Batman}}'' (1989), [[AgentMulder Alexander Knox]] is mocked by his fellow reporters for believing that there is a "Bat-Man." They joke that he must believe in Bigfoot too.
** Similarly, an early scene in ''TheDarkKnight'' suggested that anyone who believes in Batman not only also believes in Bigfoot, but furthermore believes that Creator/ElvisPresley and AbrahamLincoln are still alive.
6th Jun '16 4:46:51 PM merotoker
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*** The two agents' views on the paranormal are completely inverted very early on in the Season 1 episode 'Beyond the Sea'. Serial killer Luther Boggs (who Mulder helped apprehend) claims to have had psychic revelations regarding a kidnapping case, but Mulder is particularly sceptical whereas Scully comes to believe him after Boggs reveals certain details regarding her recently-deceased father that he could not know. What doesn't help is that Boggs gets certain things wrong, such as 'reading' information from a scrap of 'evidence' related to the case that actually came from one of Mulder's t-shirts.

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*** The two agents' views on the paranormal are completely inverted very early on in the Season 1 episode 'Beyond the Sea'. Serial killer Luther Boggs (who Mulder helped apprehend) claims to have had psychic revelations regarding a kidnapping case, but Mulder is particularly sceptical skeptical whereas Scully comes to believe him after Boggs reveals certain details regarding her recently-deceased father that he could not know. What doesn't help is that Boggs gets certain things wrong, such as 'reading' information from a scrap of 'evidence' related to the case that actually came from one of Mulder's t-shirts.



* PlayedWith in ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': The ChristmasSpecial episodes show that God, Jesus, and angels are all real. Aliens are real by virtue of Roger (an alien escaped from Area 51) living with the family. A two-part episode even deals with the Rapture, the Second Coming, and the war with TheLegionsOfHell. When Jesus meets Roger, he offhandedly mentions that Roger's people are one of his father's side projects, infuriating Roger. Meanwhile, Roger is busy fixing his ship to get the hell away from Earth before it becomes the literal Hell. Whether the Christmas episodes are "canon" (as much as that means) is debatable, though, and regular episodes rarely follow suit with the overtly Christian figures (though other supernatural creatures, like leprechauns, do appear from time to time).

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* PlayedWith [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': The ChristmasSpecial episodes show that God, Jesus, and angels are all real. Aliens are real by virtue of Roger (an alien escaped from Area 51) living with the family. A two-part episode even deals with the Rapture, the Second Coming, and the war with TheLegionsOfHell. When Jesus meets Roger, he offhandedly mentions that Roger's people are one of his father's side projects, infuriating Roger. Meanwhile, Roger is busy fixing his ship to get the hell away from Earth before it becomes the literal Hell. Whether the Christmas episodes are "canon" (as much as that means) is debatable, though, and regular episodes rarely follow suit with the overtly Christian figures (though other supernatural creatures, like leprechauns, do appear from time to time).
21st May '16 2:36:06 PM erforce
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--> -- ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4_paHTRdHQ Fuel]]''

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* Lampshaded amusingly in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', where embodying the first part of this trope is a hiring requirement for the Ghostbusters organization:

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* Lampshaded amusingly in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'', where embodying the first part of this trope is a hiring requirement for the Ghostbusters organization:



** Played slightly more grimly not long thereafter, when Winston points out that the Biblical Book of Revelation might not be so far-fetched: "Ray, has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason we've been so busy lately is 'cause the dead ''have'' been rising from the grave?" If Ghosts, Then Jesus plus End Of Days...

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** Played slightly more grimly not long thereafter, when Winston points out that the [[Literature/TheBible Biblical Book of Revelation Revelation]] might not be so far-fetched: "Ray, has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason we've been so busy lately is 'cause the dead ''have'' been rising from the grave?" If Ghosts, Then Jesus plus End Of Days...
21st May '16 1:04:56 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Many ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' fans averted this, being fully accepting of divine powers in the [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk first]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom three]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade movies]] but considering the aliens in [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull the fourth movie]] to be out of place in the series.

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* Many ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' fans averted this, being fully accepting of divine powers power in the [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk first]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom three]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade movies]] but considering the aliens in [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull the fourth movie]] to be out of place in the series.place.
21st May '16 1:04:11 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Many ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' fans averted this, being fully accepting of divine powers in the [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk first]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom three]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade movies]] but considering the aliens in [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull the fourth movie]] to be out of place in the series.
29th Mar '16 1:08:54 AM jormis29
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* The graphic novel ''Comicbook/CreatureTech'' had anů interesting take on this. The protagonist, Dr. Ong, is an atheist and a brilliant scientist, working at [[ExtranormalInstitute a top-secret lab researching the weird and supernatural]]. Then, he runs across the actual Shroud of Turin at work (they know it's the real deal because the blood on it heals people and raises the dead). This makes Ong admit to his preacher father that Jesus must have really been the Son of God, but he doesn't give anything more than intellectual assent to Jesus. Dr. Ong remains this way, until a teleportation accident lands him on another planet, at the foot of a cross where an Alien Jesus is being crucified. I kid you not: ''If Alien Jesus, then Jesus.'' ''Creature Tech'' is all over this trope. Ong's father was driven to religion by his findings as the previous scientist working at the aforementioned institution: [[InvertedTrope If aliens, then Jesus]]. He also objects to the Shroud of Turin because having conclusive evidence of Jesus' divinity would deprive people of the right to ''choose'' whether to believe in Christ.

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* The graphic novel ''Comicbook/CreatureTech'' had anů interesting take on this. The protagonist, Dr. Ong, is an atheist and a brilliant scientist, working at [[ExtranormalInstitute a top-secret lab researching the weird and supernatural]]. Then, he runs across the actual Shroud of Turin ShroudOfTurin at work (they know it's the real deal because the blood on it heals people and raises the dead). This makes Ong admit to his preacher father that Jesus must have really been the Son of God, but he doesn't give anything more than intellectual assent to Jesus. Dr. Ong remains this way, until a teleportation accident lands him on another planet, at the foot of a cross where an Alien Jesus is being crucified. I kid you not: ''If Alien Jesus, then Jesus.'' ''Creature Tech'' is all over this trope. Ong's father was driven to religion by his findings as the previous scientist working at the aforementioned institution: [[InvertedTrope If aliens, then Jesus]]. He also objects to the Shroud of Turin because having conclusive evidence of Jesus' divinity would deprive people of the right to ''choose'' whether to believe in Christ.



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