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21st Jun '16 1:19:10 AM 10-13-2
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* At least two ''Batman'' films - in different continuities - have played this up, with Jesus swapped for You-Know-Who.
** In Creator/TimBurton's ''{{Batman}}'' (1989), [[AgentMulder Alexander Knox]] is mocked by his fellow reporters for believing that there is a "Bat-Man." They joke that he must believe in Bigfoot too.
** Similarly, an early scene in ''TheDarkKnight'' suggested that anyone who believes in Batman not only also believes in Bigfoot, but furthermore believes that Creator/ElvisPresley and AbrahamLincoln are still alive.
6th Jun '16 4:46:51 PM merotoker
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*** The two agents' views on the paranormal are completely inverted very early on in the Season 1 episode 'Beyond the Sea'. Serial killer Luther Boggs (who Mulder helped apprehend) claims to have had psychic revelations regarding a kidnapping case, but Mulder is particularly sceptical whereas Scully comes to believe him after Boggs reveals certain details regarding her recently-deceased father that he could not know. What doesn't help is that Boggs gets certain things wrong, such as 'reading' information from a scrap of 'evidence' related to the case that actually came from one of Mulder's t-shirts.

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*** The two agents' views on the paranormal are completely inverted very early on in the Season 1 episode 'Beyond the Sea'. Serial killer Luther Boggs (who Mulder helped apprehend) claims to have had psychic revelations regarding a kidnapping case, but Mulder is particularly sceptical skeptical whereas Scully comes to believe him after Boggs reveals certain details regarding her recently-deceased father that he could not know. What doesn't help is that Boggs gets certain things wrong, such as 'reading' information from a scrap of 'evidence' related to the case that actually came from one of Mulder's t-shirts.



* PlayedWith in ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': The ChristmasSpecial episodes show that God, Jesus, and angels are all real. Aliens are real by virtue of Roger (an alien escaped from Area 51) living with the family. A two-part episode even deals with the Rapture, the Second Coming, and the war with TheLegionsOfHell. When Jesus meets Roger, he offhandedly mentions that Roger's people are one of his father's side projects, infuriating Roger. Meanwhile, Roger is busy fixing his ship to get the hell away from Earth before it becomes the literal Hell. Whether the Christmas episodes are "canon" (as much as that means) is debatable, though, and regular episodes rarely follow suit with the overtly Christian figures (though other supernatural creatures, like leprechauns, do appear from time to time).

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* PlayedWith [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': The ChristmasSpecial episodes show that God, Jesus, and angels are all real. Aliens are real by virtue of Roger (an alien escaped from Area 51) living with the family. A two-part episode even deals with the Rapture, the Second Coming, and the war with TheLegionsOfHell. When Jesus meets Roger, he offhandedly mentions that Roger's people are one of his father's side projects, infuriating Roger. Meanwhile, Roger is busy fixing his ship to get the hell away from Earth before it becomes the literal Hell. Whether the Christmas episodes are "canon" (as much as that means) is debatable, though, and regular episodes rarely follow suit with the overtly Christian figures (though other supernatural creatures, like leprechauns, do appear from time to time).
21st May '16 2:36:06 PM erforce
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* Lampshaded amusingly in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', where embodying the first part of this trope is a hiring requirement for the Ghostbusters organization:

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* Lampshaded amusingly in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'', where embodying the first part of this trope is a hiring requirement for the Ghostbusters organization:



** Played slightly more grimly not long thereafter, when Winston points out that the Biblical Book of Revelation might not be so far-fetched: "Ray, has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason we've been so busy lately is 'cause the dead ''have'' been rising from the grave?" If Ghosts, Then Jesus plus End Of Days...

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** Played slightly more grimly not long thereafter, when Winston points out that the [[Literature/TheBible Biblical Book of Revelation Revelation]] might not be so far-fetched: "Ray, has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason we've been so busy lately is 'cause the dead ''have'' been rising from the grave?" If Ghosts, Then Jesus plus End Of Days...
21st May '16 1:04:56 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Many ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' fans averted this, being fully accepting of divine powers in the [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk first]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom three]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade movies]] but considering the aliens in [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull the fourth movie]] to be out of place in the series.

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* Many ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' fans averted this, being fully accepting of divine powers power in the [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk first]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom three]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade movies]] but considering the aliens in [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull the fourth movie]] to be out of place in the series.place.
21st May '16 1:04:11 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Many ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' fans averted this, being fully accepting of divine powers in the [[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk first]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom three]] [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade movies]] but considering the aliens in [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull the fourth movie]] to be out of place in the series.
29th Mar '16 1:08:54 AM jormis29
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* The graphic novel ''Comicbook/CreatureTech'' had anů interesting take on this. The protagonist, Dr. Ong, is an atheist and a brilliant scientist, working at [[ExtranormalInstitute a top-secret lab researching the weird and supernatural]]. Then, he runs across the actual Shroud of Turin at work (they know it's the real deal because the blood on it heals people and raises the dead). This makes Ong admit to his preacher father that Jesus must have really been the Son of God, but he doesn't give anything more than intellectual assent to Jesus. Dr. Ong remains this way, until a teleportation accident lands him on another planet, at the foot of a cross where an Alien Jesus is being crucified. I kid you not: ''If Alien Jesus, then Jesus.'' ''Creature Tech'' is all over this trope. Ong's father was driven to religion by his findings as the previous scientist working at the aforementioned institution: [[InvertedTrope If aliens, then Jesus]]. He also objects to the Shroud of Turin because having conclusive evidence of Jesus' divinity would deprive people of the right to ''choose'' whether to believe in Christ.

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* The graphic novel ''Comicbook/CreatureTech'' had anů interesting take on this. The protagonist, Dr. Ong, is an atheist and a brilliant scientist, working at [[ExtranormalInstitute a top-secret lab researching the weird and supernatural]]. Then, he runs across the actual Shroud of Turin ShroudOfTurin at work (they know it's the real deal because the blood on it heals people and raises the dead). This makes Ong admit to his preacher father that Jesus must have really been the Son of God, but he doesn't give anything more than intellectual assent to Jesus. Dr. Ong remains this way, until a teleportation accident lands him on another planet, at the foot of a cross where an Alien Jesus is being crucified. I kid you not: ''If Alien Jesus, then Jesus.'' ''Creature Tech'' is all over this trope. Ong's father was driven to religion by his findings as the previous scientist working at the aforementioned institution: [[InvertedTrope If aliens, then Jesus]]. He also objects to the Shroud of Turin because having conclusive evidence of Jesus' divinity would deprive people of the right to ''choose'' whether to believe in Christ.



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19th Feb '16 1:49:51 AM bwburke94
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The rhetorical term for [[LogicalFallacies this kind of thinking]] is a "FalseDichotomy": A person must be either a [[AgentMulder Believer]] or a [[AgentScully Skeptic]], but may not ever be both, nor fall somewhere between the extremes. Any belief on one side or the other will result in all beliefs on that side so this trope can exist with the title implication often running in reverse; IfGhostsThenJesus is common.

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The rhetorical term for [[LogicalFallacies this kind of thinking]] is a "FalseDichotomy": A person must be either a [[AgentMulder Believer]] or a [[AgentScully Skeptic]], but may not ever be both, nor fall somewhere between the extremes. Any belief on one side or the other will result in all beliefs on that side so this trope can exist with the title implication often running in reverse; IfGhostsThenJesus "if ghosts, then Jesus" is common.
10th Nov '15 5:43:53 AM DarkWillow
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*** The two agents' views on the paranormal are completely inverted very early on in the Season 1 episode 'Beyond the Sea'. Serial killer Luther Boggs (who Mulder helped apprehend) claims to have had psychic revelations regarding a kidnapping case, but Mulder is particularly sceptical whereas Scully comes to believe him after Boggs reveals certain details regarding her recently-deceased father that he could not know. What doesn't help is that Boggs gets certain things wrong, such as 'reading' information from a scrap of 'evidence' related to the case that actually came from one of Mulder's t-shirts.
6th Oct '15 4:11:22 PM SteveMB
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* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', Bruce displays a healthy attitude to this kind of trope, not dismissing anything out of hand but not blankly accepting all supernatural claims either.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', Bruce displays a healthy attitude to this kind of trope, not dismissing anything out of hand (having encountered his share of paranormal phenomena during his own cape and cowl career) but not blankly accepting all supernatural claims either.



'''Bruce:''' Of course I do. I've seen it all: Demons, witchboys, immortals, zombies. But [trashing parts of a high school and attacking a bully], it's just so...so ''high school''.

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'''Bruce:''' Of course I do. I've seen {{seen it all: all}}: Demons, witchboys, immortals, zombies. But [trashing parts of a high school and attacking a bully], it's just so...so ''high school''.
25th Sep '15 10:02:14 AM ChronoLegion
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* In Creator/AndreiBelyanin's ''The Thief of Baghdad'', the author relays a FishOutOfTemporalWater scenario, in which a modern-day Russian man is magically transported into ArabianNightsDays by a genie to become the legendary titular character. The story (and sequels) feature all manner of Middle Eastern magical creatures. The author decides he shouldn't stop there and invoke this trope. After all, if a guy can be abducted and sent into the magical past by a genie, then why can't he also be abducted by a flying saucer in the middle of a Baghdad street chase, causing the guards to run away in fear.

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* In Creator/AndreiBelyanin's ''The Thief of Baghdad'', the author relays a FishOutOfTemporalWater scenario, in which a modern-day Russian man is magically transported into ArabianNightsDays by a genie to become the legendary titular character. The story (and sequels) feature all manner of Middle Eastern magical creatures. The author decides he shouldn't stop there and invoke this trope. After all, if a guy can be abducted and sent into the magical past by a genie, then why can't he also be abducted by a flying saucer in the middle of a Baghdad street chase, causing the guards to run away in fear.fear, claiming that St. Khidr's chariot has taken the thieving infidel for righteous punishment.
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