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15th Mar '18 4:41:04 AM isoycrazy
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%%* Michael, a Knight of the Cross, in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''.

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%%* * Michael, a Knight of the Cross, in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''.''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' plays with this. Michael is a Paladin who wields a Holy Sword that represents Love. He will give the shirt on his back to anyone who is in need, and willing to take the place of a friend in a dire situation because that person is in need of help. From the [=POV=] character Harry Dresden, who is a KnightInSourArmor, CombatPragmatist, and willing to do evil things for a good cause, he views Michael as an Ideal Hero. To him, Michael doesn't let his wrath control him, a frequent issue with Harry. Michael has compassion for his greatest enemies and would stop trying to kill murderous sociopath who was knocked unconscious on the chance he could seek redemption, while Harry would keep on strangling until he was good and sure the man was dead. To Harry, Michael is a combination of big brother and father figure for Harry and so is placed on a high pedastal. Michael, who knows his heart, and Archangel Uriel both know Michael is actually an AntiHero because he does have his flaws. His biggest one is his capability to be consumed by wrath when his family is involved. When a WellIntentionedExtremist Catholic Priest [[spoiler:kidnaps one of Michael's daughters and tries to justify killing her and Harry by claiming it is God's Plan, Michael comes within an inch of beating the man to death with a baseball bat. Harry stays him by offering to kill the man if it is actually needed. This is enough for Michael to think and then calm down enough to grant the man mercy]].
4th Mar '18 9:55:39 PM Prometheus117
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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': No matter [[MultipleEndings what the route]], Emiya Shirou [[InvokedTrope tries to be an]] Ideal Hero. However, the story challenges the idea of the ideal hero and whether it's really an attainable goal for any psychologically normal person. [[spoiler:The answer it comes to is no, not really, and it won't make you happy to be one either. It's still an admirable goal even if you can't do it, though, and even the bitter Archer (an Alternate Future version of Shirou) still finds the dream beautiful.]]
** His adopted father [[LightNovel/FateZero Kiritsugu]] further [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructs this trope]], as he learned throughout his years as a Hitman it is impossible to save everyone. His goal in the grail war is to make the world a better place, too bad it was all in vain.

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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': No matter [[MultipleEndings what the route]], Emiya Shirou [[InvokedTrope tries to be an]] Ideal Hero. However, the story challenges the idea of the ideal hero and whether it's really an attainable goal for any psychologically normal person. [[spoiler:The answer it comes to is no, not really, and it won't make you happy to be one either. It's still an admirable goal even if you can't do it, though, and even the bitter Archer (an Alternate Future version of Shirou) still finds the dream beautiful. In the routes themselves, Shirou can give up the dream for his loved one, [[WorldHalfFull do the best he can to achieve it by saving as many as possible]], or dedicate himself fully to it while knowing the pain and hardship he'll endure, but with the caveat [[EarnYourHappyEnding the woman he loves is waiting for him]] [[TogetherInDeath on the other side when it's over]].]]
** His adopted father [[LightNovel/FateZero Kiritsugu]] further [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructs this trope]], as he learned throughout his years as a Hitman it is impossible to save everyone. His goal in the grail war Grail War is to make the world a better place, too bad it was all in vain.
26th Feb '18 3:35:16 PM WrexWrecks
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* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'': Meet Kamijou Touma; [[ChronicHeroSyndrome he will save everyone]], [[TheDulcineaEffect even when he knows them for only one day]], [[TurnTheOtherCheek never holds a grudge]], [[WhatYouAreInTheDark and]] ''[[WhatYouAreInTheDark never]]'' [[WhatYouAreInTheDark abandons anyone in need.]] He is the very person many characters, including [[spoiler: [[TheAtoner Accelerator]] ]], try to follow.
9th Feb '18 1:35:24 PM Rodrigokun
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Luke Skywalker [[HeroicArchetype was designed to be one]]. Contrast him to [[AntiHero Han Solo]], and ''especially'' to [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil his own father]]. While Luke wanted to save Leia out of sympathy, Han only did so because Luke promised that Leia is a rich princess who would reward Han. Seeing Luke fall [[spoiler: fall into defeat and despair]] in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' is a hard pill to take - especially to Creator/MarkHamill!

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Luke Skywalker [[HeroicArchetype was designed to be one]]. Contrast him to [[AntiHero Han Solo]], and ''especially'' to [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil his own father]]. While Luke wanted to save Leia out of sympathy, Han only did so because Luke promised that Leia is a rich princess who would reward Han. Seeing Luke fall [[spoiler: fall [[spoiler:fall into defeat and despair]] in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' is a hard pill to take - especially to Creator/MarkHamill!
29th Jan '18 9:02:15 PM nombretomado
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** During the [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]] and [[TheModernAgeOfComicBooks Modern Age]], Billy became characterized as even more ideal and pure than Superman. Superman felt pressure as TheAce and TheParagon to get things done, since everyone looked to him for aid. Captain Marvel, however, always did what he thought was right and [[SmallStepsHero utterly refused to compromise that]] in any way.

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** During the [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Bronze Age]] and [[TheModernAgeOfComicBooks [[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks Modern Age]], Billy became characterized as even more ideal and pure than Superman. Superman felt pressure as TheAce and TheParagon to get things done, since everyone looked to him for aid. Captain Marvel, however, always did what he thought was right and [[SmallStepsHero utterly refused to compromise that]] in any way.
24th Dec '17 5:28:32 AM VoxAquila
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Luke Skywalker [[HeroicArchetype was designed to be one]]. Contrast him to [[AntiHero Han Solo]], and ''especially'' to [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil his own father]]. While Luke wanted to save Leia out of sympathy, Han only did so because Luke promised that Leia is a rich princess who would reward Han.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Luke Skywalker [[HeroicArchetype was designed to be one]]. Contrast him to [[AntiHero Han Solo]], and ''especially'' to [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil his own father]]. While Luke wanted to save Leia out of sympathy, Han only did so because Luke promised that Leia is a rich princess who would reward Han. Seeing Luke fall [[spoiler: fall into defeat and despair]] in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' is a hard pill to take - especially to Creator/MarkHamill!
15th Dec '17 11:29:43 AM EDP
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* Sailor Venus in the manga version of ''Manga/SailorMoon'' is a {{Subversion}}: she's ''very'' close to one, always doing the right thing even at her own detriment (including, apparently, her own mental health) and being Sailor Moon's role model for a reason, but the "Dream" arc shows that she outright ''needs'' her teammates' admiration, and realizing they're now considering the Outer Senshi as role models in her place drive her to extreme frustration and anger ([[StepfordSmiler not that she shows it]], at least until she snaps) and rash decisions. That said, [[InvokedTrope she actively tries to be this]], trying to always be a role model, and even when she snaps at her teammates the worst she does is to ''shout'' before going to try and take it out on the villains.
** Sailor Moon eventually becomes one at the end of the manga, cementing herself in this role when she doesn't destroy the Cauldron and [[spoiler:gives Sailor Cosmos the hope to win her battle back in the future]]. Notably, she's the one Sailor Soldier who continued to hold Sailor Venus as a role model .
10th Dec '17 4:55:46 PM nombretomado
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%%* Constable Benton Fraser on DueSouth is the ideal Mountie in every possible way.

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%%* Constable Benton Fraser on DueSouth ''Series/DueSouth'' is the ideal Mountie in every possible way.
2nd Dec '17 6:10:52 PM Kamiguy123
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Scratch that. Bob is ''the'' hero.

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Scratch that. Bob is ''the'' '''''the''''' hero.
2nd Dec '17 6:09:09 PM Kamiguy123
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* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'': Meet Kamijou Touma; [[ChronicHeroSyndrome he will save everyone]], [[TheDulcineaEffect even when he knows them for only one day , [[TurnTheOtherCheek never holds a grudge]], [[WhatYouAreInTheDark and]] ''[[WhatYouAreInTheDark never]]'' [[WhatYouAreInTheDark abandons anyone in need.]] He is the very person many characters, including [[spoiler:Accelerator]], try to follow.

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* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'': Meet Kamijou Touma; [[ChronicHeroSyndrome he will save everyone]], [[TheDulcineaEffect even when he knows them for only one day , day]], [[TurnTheOtherCheek never holds a grudge]], [[WhatYouAreInTheDark and]] ''[[WhatYouAreInTheDark never]]'' [[WhatYouAreInTheDark abandons anyone in need.]] He is the very person many characters, including [[spoiler:Accelerator]], [[spoiler: [[TheAtoner Accelerator]] ]], try to follow.
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