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25th Sep '16 10:18:53 AM MacedonianKing
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** Jesus, obviously.
** Also, Job, who is explicitly stated to be a flawless man.

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** Jesus, obviously.
** Also,
obviously and also Job, who is explicitly stated to be a flawless man.man.
** Subverted for the most part, however, as most of our Biblical "heroes" are clearly shown to be flawed, imperfect people. David, Moses, Samson, Simon and Paul are all examples of good people who make mistakes.
23rd Sep '16 11:41:10 PM LinTaylor
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** Mumen Rider also deserves mention, being brave, noble, and always willing to put his life on the line to protect the innocent, even though he's just an average man with a bicycle and absolutely no super powers. He's also one of the few people who knows that Saitama is a good man, as seen in the aftermath of the Undersea King story arc.
27th Aug '16 3:54:47 PM ading
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* The title character of ''Manga/KimbaTheWhiteLion''.

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* %%* The title character of ''Manga/KimbaTheWhiteLion''.



* Franchise/{{Superman}}, consistently, but given an especially provocative portrayal in ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', where Superman plays this trope straight, subverts it, and reconstructs all over the course of the story.
** In fact that ends up being the way they challenge the InvincibleHero in many of his better stories, putting things in front of him that could legitimately compel him to break this character type or putting him up against less ideal sort of hero (frequently Franchise/{{Batman}}) to make a case for being an ideal hero versus being a more "pragmatic" hero. Some of his most crippling defeats were victorious battles that could only be won by breaking one of his rules.

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}, consistently, but given an especially provocative portrayal in ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', where Superman plays this trope straight, subverts it, and reconstructs all over the course of the story.
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story. In fact that ends up being the way they challenge the InvincibleHero in many of his better stories, putting things in front of him that could legitimately compel him to break this character type or putting him up against less ideal sort of hero (frequently Franchise/{{Batman}}) to make a case for being an ideal hero versus being a more "pragmatic" hero. Some of his most crippling defeats were victorious battles that could only be won by breaking one of his rules.



* ComicBook/CaptainAmerica is Marvel Comics' moral equivalent to Superman.
** Little wonder, then, that the two would be combined into the character Super-Soldier in the ComicBook/AmalgamUniverse.

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* ComicBook/CaptainAmerica is Marvel Comics' moral equivalent to Superman.
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Superman. Little wonder, then, that the two would be combined into the character Super-Soldier in the ComicBook/AmalgamUniverse.



* ''Film/{{Transformers}}'': Optimus Prime.
* ''Film/TheTerminator'' and ''Film/Terminator2:JudgmentDay'': Kyle Reese and John Connor.
* ''Franchise/RushHour'': Inspector Lee (played by Jackie Chan).

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* %%* ''Film/{{Transformers}}'': Optimus Prime.
* %%* ''Film/TheTerminator'' and ''Film/Terminator2:JudgmentDay'': Kyle Reese and John Connor.
* %%* ''Franchise/RushHour'': Inspector Lee (played by Jackie Chan).



* ''Film/RoboCop'': RoboCop.
* ''Film/{{Splash}}'': Allen Bauer.
* ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': Malcolm.

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* %%* ''Film/RoboCop'': RoboCop.
* %%* ''Film/{{Splash}}'': Allen Bauer.
* %%* ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': Malcolm.



* Michael, a Knight of the Cross, in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''.

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* %%* Michael, a Knight of the Cross, in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''.



* Although not the main character, Carrot Ironfounderson from the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' series is a walking paragon of an Ideal Hero



* ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'': Kahlan and Richard are this, just keep in mind it's AynRand's ideals

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* %%* ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'': Kahlan and Richard are this, just keep in mind it's AynRand's ideals



* Most incarnations of [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]. Fourth and Fifth are probably the most obvious ones.
* Constable Benton Fraser on DueSouth is the ideal Mountie in every possible way.

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* %%* Most incarnations of [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]. Fourth and Fifth are probably the most obvious ones.
* %%* Constable Benton Fraser on DueSouth is the ideal Mountie in every possible way.



The only time this portrayal is played with is in ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' when he briefly [[RevengeBeforeReason becomes consumed with getting revenge on the Borg even at the expense of his crew]]. When Lilly confronts him and compares him to Captain Ahab, he realizes his mistakes and regains his nobility.
** An argument once given in the eternal Kirk vs Picard debate was presented as such: Kirk is the kind of Captain and leader who many people would love to go on an adventure with and have a beer with afterwards, Picard is the kind many would willingly follow right into hell itself.

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The only time this portrayal is played with is in ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' when he briefly [[RevengeBeforeReason becomes consumed with getting revenge on the Borg even at the expense of his crew]]. When Lilly confronts him and compares him to Captain Ahab, he realizes his mistakes and regains his nobility.
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nobility. An argument once given in the eternal Kirk vs Picard debate was presented as such: Kirk is the kind of Captain and leader who many people would love to go on an adventure with and have a beer with afterwards, Picard is the kind many would willingly follow right into hell itself.



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* Wrestling/JohnCena is a ProfessionalWrestling example of this.
* And before him, Wrestling/HulkHogan.

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%%* ''Roleplay/DinoAttackRPG'' had quite a few such agents, especially early on. Zenna, Rex (at least, prior to the Adventurers' Island arc), Andrew, Zachary (pre-Stromling), and David being good examples- and that's just among primary characters. Pierce could also be considered an example, although justified by the fact that he's a doctor.



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* ''Roleplay/DinoAttackRPG'' had quite a few such agents, especially early on. Zenna, Rex (at least, prior to the Adventurers' Island arc), Andrew, Zachary (pre-Stromling), and David being good examples- and that's just among primary characters. Pierce could also be considered an example, although justified by the fact that he's a doctor.
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* Mario in ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros''
* Link in ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''.
* Sora of ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts''.
* Master Chief of ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''. He always tries to do the right thing. Always.

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* Mario in ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros''
* Link in ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''.
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%%* Sora of ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts''.
* %%* Master Chief of ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''. He always tries to do the right thing. Always.



* Pretty much every [[TheHero Lord]] in the ''{{Franchise/Fire Emblem}}'' games aspires to be this, if they aren't already. Notable examples include [[FireEmblemAkaneia Marth]], [[FireEmblemJugdral Sigurd]], and [[FireEmblemElibe Eliwood]].

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* %%* Pretty much every [[TheHero Lord]] in the ''{{Franchise/Fire Emblem}}'' games aspires to be this, if they aren't already. Notable examples include [[FireEmblemAkaneia Marth]], [[FireEmblemJugdral Sigurd]], and [[FireEmblemElibe Eliwood]].



* Ferwin and Pyan Pau in ''VideoGame/TheSpiritEngine2''. [[spoiler:Charlotte]] seems to be this at first, but is actually a subversion.
* Ramza, from ''FinalFantasyTactics'' is one of these. Problem is, he's in [[CrapsackWorld Ivalice]], and is [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight trying to stop]] a [[AncientConspiracy massive conspiracy]] of {{manipulative bastard}}s who start a war resulting in [[MoralEventHorizon over a million dead]] as a distraction. NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, as [[TheGreatestStoryNeverTold the ending]] [[{{Unperson}} of the game shows]], though the epilogue gives some hope that eventually the truth was discovered, centuries later.

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* %%* Ferwin and Pyan Pau in ''VideoGame/TheSpiritEngine2''. [[spoiler:Charlotte]] seems to be this at first, but is actually a subversion.
* %%* Ramza, from ''FinalFantasyTactics'' is one of these. Problem is, he's in [[CrapsackWorld Ivalice]], and is [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight trying to stop]] a [[AncientConspiracy massive conspiracy]] of {{manipulative bastard}}s who start a war resulting in [[MoralEventHorizon over a million dead]] as a distraction. NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, as [[TheGreatestStoryNeverTold the ending]] [[{{Unperson}} of the game shows]], though the epilogue gives some hope that eventually the truth was discovered, centuries later.



* Po from ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPandaLegendsOfAwesomeness''.

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* %%* Po from ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPandaLegendsOfAwesomeness''.



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* Optimus Prime from ([[ComicBook/TransformersShatteredGlass almost]]) every incarnation of ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''.
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21st Aug '16 1:47:21 AM Khrunwahl02
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* ''Film/Splash'': Allen Bauer.

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* ''Film/Splash'': ''Film/{{Splash}}'': Allen Bauer.
21st Aug '16 1:45:57 AM Khrunwahl02
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* ''Film/MaryPoppins'' is [[LampshadeHanging explicitly stated to be]] "practically perfect in every way".



* ''Film/MaryPoppins'' is [[LampshadeHanging explicitly stated to be]] "practically perfect in every way".

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* ''Film/MaryPoppins'' is [[LampshadeHanging explicitly stated to be]] "practically perfect in every way".''Film/Splash'': Allen Bauer.
* ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': Malcolm.
21st Aug '16 1:42:25 AM Khrunwahl02
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* ''Film/TheTerminator'' and ''Film/Terminator2:JudgmentDay'': John Connor.

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* ''Film/TheTerminator'' and ''Film/Terminator2:JudgmentDay'': Kyle Reese and John Connor.
21st Aug '16 1:40:51 AM Khrunwahl02
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* ''Film/Robocop'': Robocop.

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* ''Film/Robocop'': Robocop.''Film/RoboCop'': RoboCop.
21st Aug '16 1:39:46 AM Khrunwahl02
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* ''Film/TheTerminator'' and ''Film/Terminator2:JudgmentDay'': John Connor.
* ''Franchise/RushHour'': Inspector Lee (played by Jackie Chan).


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* ''Film/Robocop'': Robocop.
3rd Aug '16 4:28:31 AM whereismytea
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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', among the [[LaResistance Ignauts]] there seems to be the idea that [[RebelLeader Demetrio]] can do no wrong. He's heroic, fair, [[BadassNormal talented in a fight]] but an advocate for non-violent change, and wants to empower the disadvantaged despite coming from the nobility himself.
31st Jul '16 3:13:35 AM Snowy66
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* Artix von Krieger from ''Creator/ArtixEntertainment'' games: ''VideoGame/AdventureQuest'', ''VideoGame/DragonFable'', ''VideoGame/MechQuest'', and ''VideoGame/AdventureQuestWorlds'' can be this. He's a [[MagicKnight magic]] KnightInShiningArmor who is [[IncorruptiblePurePureness incorruptible]], noble, polite, and protects the innocent. However he's also a BloodKnight who [[TheHunter hunts]] TheUndead and [[AxCrazy really loves it]].
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