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5th Apr '17 1:53:52 PM Willbyr
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* In ''{{Guyver}}'' Chronos kidnaps Sho's father and turns him into a Zoanoid who rips out the Guyver's brain, causing Sho to go unconscious which leads the Guyver killing Sho's father on autopilot. Sho doesn't remember this, but he develops a psychological block against transforming. He doesn't find out about what he did until later on, where his angst lasts for about a minute before he takes care of business.

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* In ''{{Guyver}}'' ''Manga/{{Guyver}}'' Chronos kidnaps Sho's father and turns him into a Zoanoid who rips out the Guyver's brain, causing Sho to go unconscious which leads the Guyver killing Sho's father on autopilot. Sho doesn't remember this, but he develops a psychological block against transforming. He doesn't find out about what he did until later on, where his angst lasts for about a minute before he takes care of business.
18th Mar '17 10:41:40 AM TudorRose
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* In the ''Literature/DeptfordMice'' trilogy, Thomas Triton is haunted by feelings of guilt for supposedly killing his friend Woodget Pipple, although [[spoiler:it happened while he was under mind control so he was not responsible for his actions. Unbeknownst to him, however, Woodget is still alive with IdentityAmnesia.]]
4th Feb '17 2:08:54 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': There was absolutely nothing Brienne of Tarth could do to defend [[spoiler:her beloved king against Melisandre's black magic, but she nevertheless feels horrible that she couldn't save Renly Baratheon.]]

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There was absolutely nothing Brienne of Tarth could do to defend [[spoiler:her beloved king against Melisandre's black magic, but she nevertheless feels horrible that she couldn't save Renly Baratheon.]]]]
** Barristan Selmy takes his failure to protect King Robert quite hard, despite being directly ordered to stand aside.
8th Jan '17 2:41:11 PM nombretomado
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*** This trope is the reason Miles Morales from the [[UltimateMarvel same universe]] would become the second Spider-Man, but with Peter Parker in the role of Gwen Stacy this time. Though [[spoiler: his mother dying is more like this moment]].

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*** This trope is the reason Miles Morales from the [[UltimateMarvel [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel same universe]] would become the second Spider-Man, but with Peter Parker in the role of Gwen Stacy this time. Though [[spoiler: his mother dying is more like this moment]].
2nd Jan '17 11:27:21 AM Sapphirea2
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** The Series 9 endgame revolves around this. In "Face the Raven", his beloved companion Clara Oswald is KilledOffForReal in a SenselessSacrifice when she tries to protect an innocent used as bait by Ashildr merely to trap the Doctor for the Time Lords. The Doctor blames himself for this disaster -- he saved Ashildr's life in a way that made him immortal and eventually resentful of him, he saved the Time Lords ''at Clara's behest'', and he didn't do more to stop Clara from trying to be like him when she was far more "breakable". Clara tells him it's HER fault and no one else's since she made the foolish choice to take on a death sentence, and tries to convince him to hold to his principles, not seek revenge for her death, and keep helping others as her fate looms. But he despairs "What's the point of being a Doctor if I can't cure you?" Over the course of the next two episodes, "Heaven Sent" and "Hell Bent", [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil his anguish and guilt over her demise is exacerbated by torture], meaning he never has a chance to process her death in a healthy way. By the time he escapes, he's been DrivenToMadness and "saves" Clara by violating a fixed point in time ''and'' his principles, risking the safety of the space-time continuum and everybody in it for one person. Ashildr points out, again, that he was NOT responsible for Clara's death, while Clara herself causes him to realize his love for her is keeping him from being a hero. In the end, he is mind-wiped of key memories of her -- he doesn't recall her face, voice, or why he loved her, and thus has no idea she's now OnlyMostlyDead and having adventures with Ashildr! Now up to this point a {{Catchphrase}} of Clara's was "Run you clever boy...and remember me", as he'd first encountered her as "echoes" who helped him, and usually died for him, across space and time. But she changes it to leave one last message for him at the end, reminding him of what he ''really'' needs to do: "Run you clever boy...and be a Doctor".

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** The Series 9 endgame revolves around this. In "Face the Raven", his beloved companion Clara Oswald is KilledOffForReal in a SenselessSacrifice when she tries to protect an innocent used as bait by Ashildr merely to trap the Doctor for the Time Lords. The Doctor blames himself for this disaster -- he saved Ashildr's life in a way that made him immortal and eventually resentful of him, he saved the Time Lords ''at Clara's behest'', and he didn't do more to stop Clara from trying to be like him when she was far more "breakable". Clara tells him it's HER fault and no one else's since she made the foolish choice to take on a death sentence, and tries to convince him to hold to his principles, not seek revenge for her death, and keep helping others as her fate looms. But he despairs "What's the point of being a Doctor if I can't cure you?" Over the course of the next two episodes, "Heaven Sent" and "Hell Bent", [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil his anguish and guilt over her demise is exacerbated by torture], torture]], meaning he never has a chance to process her death in a healthy way. By the time he escapes, he's been DrivenToMadness and "saves" Clara by violating a fixed point in time ''and'' his principles, risking the safety of the space-time continuum and everybody in it for one person. Ashildr points out, again, that he was NOT responsible for Clara's death, while Clara herself causes him to realize his love for her is keeping him from being a hero. In the end, he is mind-wiped of key memories of her -- he doesn't recall her face, voice, or why he loved her, and thus has no idea she's now OnlyMostlyDead and having adventures with Ashildr! Now up to this point a {{Catchphrase}} of Clara's was "Run you clever boy...and remember me", as he'd first encountered her as "echoes" who helped him, and usually died for him, across space and time. But she changes it to leave one last message for him at the end, reminding him of what he ''really'' needs to do: "Run you clever boy...and be a Doctor".
2nd Jan '17 11:26:55 AM Sapphirea2
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** The Series 9 endgame revolves around this. In "Face the Raven", his beloved companion Clara Oswald is KilledOffForReal in a SenselessSacrifice when she tries to protect an innocent used as bait by Ashildr merely to trap the Doctor for the Time Lords. The Doctor blames himself for this disaster -- after all, he saved Ashildr's life in a way that made him immortal and eventually resentful of him, he saved the Time Lords, and he didn't do more to stop Clara from trying to be like him when she was far more "breakable". Clara tells him it's HER fault and no one else's, since she made the fatal, foolish choice to take on a death sentence, and tries to convince him to hold to his principles, not seek revenge for her death, and keep helping others as her fate looms. But he despairs "What's the point of being a Doctor if I can't cure you?" Over the course of the next two episodes, "Heaven Sent" and "Hell Bent", his anguish and guilt over her demise is exacerbated by torture. By the time he escapes, he's been DrivenToMadness and "saves" Clara by violating a fixed point in time ''and'' his principles, risking the safety of the universe. Ashildr points out, again, that he was NOT responsible for Clara's death, while Clara herself causes him to realize his love for her is keeping him from being a hero. In the end, he is mind-wiped of key memories of her -- he doesn't recall her face, voice, or why he loved her, and thus has no idea she's now OnlyMostlyDead and having adventures with Ashildr! Tellingly, up to this point a {{Catchphrase}} of Clara's was "Run you clever boy...and remember me", as he'd first encountered her as "echoes" who made {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s for him across space and time. But she changes it to leave one last message for him on his blackboard at the end, reminding him of what he ''really'' needs to do: "Run you clever boy...and be a Doctor".

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** The Series 9 endgame revolves around this. In "Face the Raven", his beloved companion Clara Oswald is KilledOffForReal in a SenselessSacrifice when she tries to protect an innocent used as bait by Ashildr merely to trap the Doctor for the Time Lords. The Doctor blames himself for this disaster -- after all, he saved Ashildr's life in a way that made him immortal and eventually resentful of him, he saved the Time Lords, Lords ''at Clara's behest'', and he didn't do more to stop Clara from trying to be like him when she was far more "breakable". Clara tells him it's HER fault and no one else's, else's since she made the fatal, foolish choice to take on a death sentence, and tries to convince him to hold to his principles, not seek revenge for her death, and keep helping others as her fate looms. But he despairs "What's the point of being a Doctor if I can't cure you?" Over the course of the next two episodes, "Heaven Sent" and "Hell Bent", [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil his anguish and guilt over her demise is exacerbated by torture. torture], meaning he never has a chance to process her death in a healthy way. By the time he escapes, he's been DrivenToMadness and "saves" Clara by violating a fixed point in time ''and'' his principles, risking the safety of the universe.space-time continuum and everybody in it for one person. Ashildr points out, again, that he was NOT responsible for Clara's death, while Clara herself causes him to realize his love for her is keeping him from being a hero. In the end, he is mind-wiped of key memories of her -- he doesn't recall her face, voice, or why he loved her, and thus has no idea she's now OnlyMostlyDead and having adventures with Ashildr! Tellingly, Ashildr! Now up to this point a {{Catchphrase}} of Clara's was "Run you clever boy...and remember me", as he'd first encountered her as "echoes" who made {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s helped him, and usually died for him him, across space and time. But she changes it to leave one last message for him on his blackboard at the end, reminding him of what he ''really'' needs to do: "Run you clever boy...and be a Doctor".
26th Dec '16 3:00:41 AM upupandaway42
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** In Season 2, Patty's motivation for becoming a cop on the Metahuman Task Force is to bring down Mark Mardon, the man who killed her father during a bank robbery and is now the supervillain [[WeatherManipulation Weather Wizard]]. In the ChristmasEpisode [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E9RunningToStandStill "Running to Stand Still"]], Patty reveals that she actually blames ''herself'' as much as Mardon for her father's death - a teenager at the time, she was supposed to be at the bank instead of her father, depositing money from her father's shop, but she had chosen to ditch her responsibilities to hang out with her friends.
24th Dec '16 4:13:37 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'': Kaladin has a long list of failures that stack together to cripple him, but the first and worst is his brother Tien's death. Tien was sent to war as revenge against their father, and Kaladin followed in a failed attempt to keep him safe.
21st Dec '16 11:53:32 AM romanovnq
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* Noctis suffers from immense guilt at [[spoilers: Luna's death]], even though the way it was set up made it seem like it was inevitable.

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* Noctis suffers from immense guilt at [[spoilers: [[spoiler: Luna's death]], death]] in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'', even though the way it was set up made it seem like it was inevitable.
21st Dec '16 11:53:02 AM romanovnq
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* Noctis suffers from immense guilt at [[spoilers: Luna's death]], even though the way it was set up made it seem like it was inevitable.
--> '''Noctis''': All I wanted was to save you...
**Watching Noctis break down and consequently mourn for weeks after it occured is a punch to the gut, especially when he finally realises [[spoiler: just how much she must have struggled to help him, and how he had been oblivious to all the hardships she had been through until it was too late]] and ends up crying alone.
--> '''Noctis''': It's... so hard... Guess it was hard for you too. I'm sorry... I couldn't be there for you.
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