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27th Mar '16 5:48:20 AM Iampureevil
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* ...Raiden in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', an even more savage {{deconstruction}} of this trope than Solid Snake. As an audience proxy character whom the player is encouraged to identify with, he essentially serves as a living lecture to the audience against wanting to be badass by, at the start of his portion of the game, first failing miserably at being badass and then being harassed by his girlfriend because of his emotional distance (a common trait of badassery). Then, in the later portion of the game, it is revealed that he is exceptionally badass. Unfortunately the circumstances through which his badassery was generated [[TrainingFromHell were so excruciatingly traumatic]] that only a complete masochist would want to undergo them. Finally, when the audience gets their [[WishFulfillment wish to be badass fulfilled]], the game begins [[NoFourthWall demolishing the fourth wall]] and reminding the players that they are playing a video game and hence are not really badass at all. During the game, several events and situations occur that directly copy (or are obviously analogous to) segments of the original VideoGame/MetalGearSolid, further forcing the players to ask themselves whether or not they truly wish to be like Solid Snake (because being like Snake would not be nice, fun, heroic or awesome). If that weren't bleedingly obvious enough, the game's plot involves [[spoiler: the entire game being a simulation of the events of the original game, designed to turn the player-character into Solid Snake!]].

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* ...** ...Raiden in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', an even more savage {{deconstruction}} of this trope than Solid Snake. As an audience proxy character whom the player is encouraged to identify with, he essentially serves as a living lecture to the audience against wanting to be badass by, at the start of his portion of the game, first failing miserably at being badass and then being harassed by his girlfriend because of his emotional distance (a common trait of badassery). Then, in the later portion of the game, it is revealed that he is exceptionally badass. Unfortunately the circumstances through which his badassery was generated [[TrainingFromHell were so excruciatingly traumatic]] that only a complete masochist would want to undergo them. Finally, when the audience gets their [[WishFulfillment wish to be badass fulfilled]], the game begins [[NoFourthWall demolishing the fourth wall]] and reminding the players that they are playing a video game and hence are not really badass at all. During the game, several events and situations occur that directly copy (or are obviously analogous to) segments of the original VideoGame/MetalGearSolid, further forcing the players to ask themselves whether or not they truly wish to be like Solid Snake (because being like Snake would not be nice, fun, heroic or awesome). If that weren't bleedingly obvious enough, the game's plot involves [[spoiler: the entire game being a simulation of the events of the original game, designed to turn the player-character into Solid Snake!]].
4th Jan '16 11:17:04 PM Tyrathius
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* Kylo Ren from ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' is a villainous example. He models himself after Darth Vader, [[spoiler: his grandfather]], and considers himself his successor, but secretly feels inadequate due to his (relatively) weak Force powers and struggles with the "temptation" of returning to the light side. Eventually he [[spoiler: kills Han Solo, his father]], believing this will give him the clarity he needs and prove his resolve to both himself and his master, Supreme Leader Snoke. It doesn't.
29th Dec '15 8:52:34 PM dbr
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* [[http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/stigma.html Deconstructed here.]]
** Careful with this site -- despite the name "No Nonsense Self Defense", it really tells borderline nothing about self-defense, other than keep an eye out for people looking at you funny, don't be stupid, and run away. Plus, it denounces just about any and all kind of self-defense training or interest in learning defense or combatives as bogus, snake oil and violence obsession. The guy's reaction to people asking for people who want to know what do to if they ''are'' cornered is that 1) they aren't really cornered because it's "hard" to actually contain someone who really wants to get away, 2) they're just looking for an excuse to try to be a "badass", 3) if they do ever actually end up cornered, it's all their fault, 4) they're totally screwed and should just give up, 5) the site actively says that any kind of "self defense" is bullshit, but you should totally pay for one of the author's self defense classes.

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* [[http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/stigma.html Deconstructed here.]]
** Careful with this site -- despite the name "No Nonsense Self Defense", it really tells borderline nothing about self-defense, other than keep an eye out for people looking at you funny, don't be stupid, and run away. Plus, it denounces just about any and all kind of self-defense training or interest in learning defense or combatives as bogus, snake oil and violence obsession. The guy's reaction to people asking for people who want to know what do to if they ''are'' cornered is that 1) they aren't really cornered because it's "hard" to actually contain someone who really wants to get away, 2) they're just looking for an excuse to try to be a "badass", 3) if they do ever actually end up cornered, it's all their fault, 4) they're totally screwed and should just give up, 5) the site actively says that any kind of "self defense" is bullshit, but you should totally pay for one of the author's self defense classes.
30th Oct '15 7:38:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''{{Condorman}}'', comic book writer Woodrow Wilkins insists on everything he writes being as realistic as possible. Therefore, he attempts to build and test all of the gadgets that his titular superhero will utilize. This dogged insistence on verisimilitude leads him to [[JumpedAtTheCall jump at the chance]] to go on a ''real'' spy mission, which leads him straight into a DefectorFromCommieLand plot and forces him to finally grow up a bit.

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* In ''{{Condorman}}'', ''Film/{{Condorman}}'', comic book writer Woodrow Wilkins insists on everything he writes being as realistic as possible. Therefore, he attempts to build and test all of the gadgets that his titular superhero will utilize. This dogged insistence on verisimilitude leads him to [[JumpedAtTheCall jump at the chance]] to go on a ''real'' spy mission, which leads him straight into a DefectorFromCommieLand plot and forces him to finally grow up a bit.
19th Oct '15 4:28:26 AM lostbirdinatree
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* Saitama of ''Anime/OnePunchMan'' was originally a straight example. He is currently an aversion - he doesn't want to be this trope because he's the most badass in his series and it's ''boring''. Genos is also this but a straight example all the way (including getting the aforementioned Saitama to be his teacher) for the sake of getting revenge on a rival cyborg.
14th Oct '15 9:47:06 AM Willbyr
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* [[MafiaPrincess Asago]] from ''TokyoCrazyParadise'' so very desperately wants to be a badass to match Ryuji, her husband-to-be, but she is always overshadowed by [[SweetPollyOliver Tsukasa]] or runs into inhuman monsters. She [[TookALevelInBadass gets tougher]] by the end of the series.

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* [[MafiaPrincess Asago]] from ''TokyoCrazyParadise'' ''Manga/TokyoCrazyParadise'' so very desperately wants to be a badass to match Ryuji, her husband-to-be, but she is always overshadowed by [[SweetPollyOliver Tsukasa]] or runs into inhuman monsters. She [[TookALevelInBadass gets tougher]] by the end of the series.
7th Oct '15 5:59:08 PM molotov
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* [[http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/stigma.html Deconstructed here, by a (former?) badass.]]
** Careful with this site -- despite the name "No Nonsense Self Defense", it really tells borderline nothing about self-defense, other than keep an eye out for people looking at you funny, don't be stupid, and run away. Plus, it denounces just about any and all kind of self-defense training or interest in learning defense or combatives as bogus, snake oil and violence obsession. The guy's reaction to people asking for people who want to know what do to if they ''are'' cornered is that 1) they aren't really cornered because it's "hard" to actually contain someone who really wants to get away, 2) they're just looking for an excuse to try to be a "badass", 3) if they do ever actually end up cornered, it's all their fault, 4) they're totally screwed and should just give up.

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* [[http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/stigma.html Deconstructed here, by a (former?) badass.here.]]
** Careful with this site -- despite the name "No Nonsense Self Defense", it really tells borderline nothing about self-defense, other than keep an eye out for people looking at you funny, don't be stupid, and run away. Plus, it denounces just about any and all kind of self-defense training or interest in learning defense or combatives as bogus, snake oil and violence obsession. The guy's reaction to people asking for people who want to know what do to if they ''are'' cornered is that 1) they aren't really cornered because it's "hard" to actually contain someone who really wants to get away, 2) they're just looking for an excuse to try to be a "badass", 3) if they do ever actually end up cornered, it's all their fault, 4) they're totally screwed and should just give up. up, 5) the site actively says that any kind of "self defense" is bullshit, but you should totally pay for one of the author's self defense classes.
7th Oct '15 10:18:59 AM molotov
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** Careful with this site -- despite the name "No Nonsense Self Defense", it really tells borderline nothing about self-defense, other than keep an eye out for people looking at you funny, don't be stupid, and run away. Plus, it denounces just about any and all kind of self-defense training or interest in learning defense or combatives as bogus, snake oil and violence obsession. The guy's reaction to people asking for people who want to know what do to if they ''are'' cornered is that 1) they aren't really cornered because it's "hard" to actually contain someone who really wants to get away, 2) they're just looking for an excuse to try to be a "badass", 3) if they do ever actually end up cornered, it's all their fault, 4) they're totally screwed and should just give up.
19th Sep '15 10:53:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* Nevere Burvelle, the protagonist of ''TheSoldierSon'' by RobinHobb, is this. He's raised to be an OfficerAndAGentleman, goes through TrainingFromHell... and in the end is [[spoiler:thwarted by magic that makes him grossly obese. He grows into something quite non-traditional, but clearly not the {{Badass}} he (and his dad) expected. Thus, Nevere is a subversion (or, if it's his Wanting To Be Badass that causes his being thwarted, he is a deconstruction) of the trope]].

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* Nevere Burvelle, the protagonist of ''TheSoldierSon'' ''Literature/TheSoldierSon'' by RobinHobb, Creator/RobinHobb, is this. He's raised to be an OfficerAndAGentleman, goes through TrainingFromHell... and in the end is [[spoiler:thwarted by magic that makes him grossly obese. He grows into something quite non-traditional, but clearly not the {{Badass}} he (and his dad) expected. Thus, Nevere is a subversion (or, if it's his Wanting To Be Badass that causes his being thwarted, he is a deconstruction) of the trope]].



* In ''TheRiches'', little old lady Nina wants to run away from her pampered mundane suburban life to live a life of excitement and danger as a travelling con-artist.

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* In ''TheRiches'', ''Series/TheRiches'', little old lady Nina wants to run away from her pampered mundane suburban life to live a life of excitement and danger as a travelling con-artist.
9th Sep '15 10:38:48 AM HighCrate
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* Isidro in ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' could be considered an example of this: even though he works a lot better as a FragileSpeedster with short blades and throwing rocks, he idolizes Guts (a LightningBruiser) and his {{BFS}}. This leads to problems, as he always insists on fighting like Guts instead of focusing on his true strengths (which involve throwing). Because his wish to be badass causes problems, there is at least a certain element of {{deconstruction}} at work here.
** Guts himself is possibly the most badass character in all of fiction, but it's a sure bet that no one who followed the series [[TraumaCongaline actually wants to be him]].

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* Isidro in ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' could be considered an example of is like this: even though he works a lot better as a FragileSpeedster with short blades and throwing rocks, he idolizes Guts (a LightningBruiser) and his {{BFS}}. This leads to problems, as he always insists on fighting like Guts instead of focusing on his true strengths (which involve throwing). like evasion, an accurate throw, and quick wits. Because his wish to be badass causes problems, there is at least a certain element of {{deconstruction}} at work here.
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here. Guts himself is possibly the most badass character in all of fiction, but it's a sure bet that no one who followed the series [[TraumaCongaline actually wants to be him]].
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