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13th Aug '16 10:15:09 PM REV6Pilot
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* {{Deconstruct|ion}}ed in ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine''. In a similar vein to the aforementioned Cloud Strife above, Capt. Martin Walker, the player character, is told by Col. John Konrad [[spoiler:who is actually personification of his own guilt over actions he's undertaken because of this need]] that trying to feed this desire through fiction is pathetic and delusional. Many of the relevant lines of dialog are implicitly aimed at the player as much as the character.

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* {{Deconstruct|ion}}ed in ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine''. In a similar vein to the aforementioned Cloud Strife above, Capt. Martin Walker, the player character, PlayerCharacter, is told by Col. John Konrad [[spoiler:who is actually personification of his own guilt over actions he's undertaken because of this need]] that trying to feed this desire through fiction is pathetic and delusional. Many of the relevant lines of dialog are implicitly [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou aimed at the player as much as the character.at Martin]].
16th Jul '16 11:39:13 AM trentongm
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* This came up A LOT when commentators were trying to interpret George Zimmerman's motivations after he killed Trayvon Martin.
12th Jul '16 5:42:16 PM Gamermaster
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** Einhart Stratos in ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaVivid'' is a straighter example. Driven by the GeneticMemory of [[{{Reincarnation}} her ancestor]], she is in a constant quest to become strong enough to protect everyone she cares about. This drive of hers only became more intense when she met and trained with the old cast of Nanoha, as she realized just how far she still has to go before she could reach their level.

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** Einhart Stratos in ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaVivid'' is a straighter example. Driven by the GeneticMemory of [[{{Reincarnation}} her ancestor]], she is in a constant quest to become strong enough to protect everyone she cares about. This drive of hers only became more intense when she met and trained with the old cast of Nanoha, ''Nanoha'', as she realized just how far she still has to go before she could reach their level.level.
** Vivio is just like Einhart in that regard, although fighting is more of a hobby for her than a compulsive drive. She wants to be strong enough to one day be able to protect those that gave her the chance to have a normal life, especially her Nanoha-mama.
23rd Jun '16 3:23:13 PM margdean56
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On the other hand, this trope can be used in conjunction with BeYourself, as we see an hero try to emulate more macho role models and failing miserably imitating their machismo. At that point, they give up in despair and focus on they can do, convinced that they are nothing special even as they learn some new knowledge or skills no one around thinks is important. However, when they are called upon to do what they have to for others, they find that those things he's learned have made him a near invincible BadassBookworm who saves the day while the macho characters look on in astonishment.

An EscapistCharacter targetted towards the male demographic will often be a product of this desire.

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On the other hand, this trope can be used in conjunction with BeYourself, as we see an a hero try to emulate more macho role models and failing fail miserably at imitating their machismo. At that point, they give up in despair and focus on what they can do, convinced that they are nothing special even as they learn some new knowledge or skills no one around thinks is important. However, when they are called upon to do what they have to for others, they find that those things he's they've learned have made him them a near invincible BadassBookworm who saves the day while the macho characters look on in astonishment.

An EscapistCharacter targetted targeted towards the male demographic will often be a product of this desire.
16th Jun '16 6:18:26 PM nombretomado
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* In ''ThaliasMusings'', Thalia speculates that this is her sister [[TeamMom Calliope's]] reason for dating [[WarGod Ares]], the Pantheon's resident DumbMuscle. That, and [[MrFanservice Ares is hot]].

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* In ''ThaliasMusings'', ''Literature/ThaliasMusings'', Thalia speculates that this is her sister [[TeamMom Calliope's]] reason for dating [[WarGod Ares]], the Pantheon's resident DumbMuscle. That, and [[MrFanservice Ares is hot]].
27th Mar '16 5:48:20 AM Iampureevil
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* ...Raiden in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', an even more savage {{deconstruction}} of this trope than Solid Snake. As an audience proxy character whom the player is encouraged to identify with, he essentially serves as a living lecture to the audience against wanting to be badass by, at the start of his portion of the game, first failing miserably at being badass and then being harassed by his girlfriend because of his emotional distance (a common trait of badassery). Then, in the later portion of the game, it is revealed that he is exceptionally badass. Unfortunately the circumstances through which his badassery was generated [[TrainingFromHell were so excruciatingly traumatic]] that only a complete masochist would want to undergo them. Finally, when the audience gets their [[WishFulfillment wish to be badass fulfilled]], the game begins [[NoFourthWall demolishing the fourth wall]] and reminding the players that they are playing a video game and hence are not really badass at all. During the game, several events and situations occur that directly copy (or are obviously analogous to) segments of the original VideoGame/MetalGearSolid, further forcing the players to ask themselves whether or not they truly wish to be like Solid Snake (because being like Snake would not be nice, fun, heroic or awesome). If that weren't bleedingly obvious enough, the game's plot involves [[spoiler: the entire game being a simulation of the events of the original game, designed to turn the player-character into Solid Snake!]].

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* ...** ...Raiden in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', an even more savage {{deconstruction}} of this trope than Solid Snake. As an audience proxy character whom the player is encouraged to identify with, he essentially serves as a living lecture to the audience against wanting to be badass by, at the start of his portion of the game, first failing miserably at being badass and then being harassed by his girlfriend because of his emotional distance (a common trait of badassery). Then, in the later portion of the game, it is revealed that he is exceptionally badass. Unfortunately the circumstances through which his badassery was generated [[TrainingFromHell were so excruciatingly traumatic]] that only a complete masochist would want to undergo them. Finally, when the audience gets their [[WishFulfillment wish to be badass fulfilled]], the game begins [[NoFourthWall demolishing the fourth wall]] and reminding the players that they are playing a video game and hence are not really badass at all. During the game, several events and situations occur that directly copy (or are obviously analogous to) segments of the original VideoGame/MetalGearSolid, further forcing the players to ask themselves whether or not they truly wish to be like Solid Snake (because being like Snake would not be nice, fun, heroic or awesome). If that weren't bleedingly obvious enough, the game's plot involves [[spoiler: the entire game being a simulation of the events of the original game, designed to turn the player-character into Solid Snake!]].
4th Jan '16 11:17:04 PM Tyrathius
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* Kylo Ren from ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' is a villainous example. He models himself after Darth Vader, [[spoiler: his grandfather]], and considers himself his successor, but secretly feels inadequate due to his (relatively) weak Force powers and struggles with the "temptation" of returning to the light side. Eventually he [[spoiler: kills Han Solo, his father]], believing this will give him the clarity he needs and prove his resolve to both himself and his master, Supreme Leader Snoke. It doesn't.
29th Dec '15 8:52:34 PM dbr
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* [[http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/stigma.html Deconstructed here.]]
** Careful with this site -- despite the name "No Nonsense Self Defense", it really tells borderline nothing about self-defense, other than keep an eye out for people looking at you funny, don't be stupid, and run away. Plus, it denounces just about any and all kind of self-defense training or interest in learning defense or combatives as bogus, snake oil and violence obsession. The guy's reaction to people asking for people who want to know what do to if they ''are'' cornered is that 1) they aren't really cornered because it's "hard" to actually contain someone who really wants to get away, 2) they're just looking for an excuse to try to be a "badass", 3) if they do ever actually end up cornered, it's all their fault, 4) they're totally screwed and should just give up, 5) the site actively says that any kind of "self defense" is bullshit, but you should totally pay for one of the author's self defense classes.

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* [[http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/stigma.html Deconstructed here.]]
** Careful with this site -- despite the name "No Nonsense Self Defense", it really tells borderline nothing about self-defense, other than keep an eye out for people looking at you funny, don't be stupid, and run away. Plus, it denounces just about any and all kind of self-defense training or interest in learning defense or combatives as bogus, snake oil and violence obsession. The guy's reaction to people asking for people who want to know what do to if they ''are'' cornered is that 1) they aren't really cornered because it's "hard" to actually contain someone who really wants to get away, 2) they're just looking for an excuse to try to be a "badass", 3) if they do ever actually end up cornered, it's all their fault, 4) they're totally screwed and should just give up, 5) the site actively says that any kind of "self defense" is bullshit, but you should totally pay for one of the author's self defense classes.
30th Oct '15 7:38:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''{{Condorman}}'', comic book writer Woodrow Wilkins insists on everything he writes being as realistic as possible. Therefore, he attempts to build and test all of the gadgets that his titular superhero will utilize. This dogged insistence on verisimilitude leads him to [[JumpedAtTheCall jump at the chance]] to go on a ''real'' spy mission, which leads him straight into a DefectorFromCommieLand plot and forces him to finally grow up a bit.

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* In ''{{Condorman}}'', ''Film/{{Condorman}}'', comic book writer Woodrow Wilkins insists on everything he writes being as realistic as possible. Therefore, he attempts to build and test all of the gadgets that his titular superhero will utilize. This dogged insistence on verisimilitude leads him to [[JumpedAtTheCall jump at the chance]] to go on a ''real'' spy mission, which leads him straight into a DefectorFromCommieLand plot and forces him to finally grow up a bit.
19th Oct '15 4:28:26 AM lostbirdinatree
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* Saitama of ''Anime/OnePunchMan'' was originally a straight example. He is currently an aversion - he doesn't want to be this trope because he's the most badass in his series and it's ''boring''. Genos is also this but a straight example all the way (including getting the aforementioned Saitama to be his teacher) for the sake of getting revenge on a rival cyborg.
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