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22nd Jun '17 10:02:18 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** '''A Piece of the Action''': Not only is the BigBad powerful, he can empower his minions, either as officials in his new regime, or by giving the superhuman powers.

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** '''A Piece of the Action''': Not only is the BigBad powerful, he can empower his minions, either as officials in his new regime, or by [[SuperEmpowering giving the them superhuman powers.powers]].
14th May '17 11:58:30 PM Zeiram1990
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* [[MagnificentBastard Princess Azula]] of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' has several

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* [[MagnificentBastard Princess Azula]] Azula of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' has several
23rd Mar '17 8:32:48 PM Specialist290
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** '''Being the Lesser Evil:''' In a world with BlackAndGrayMorality, the EvilOverlord gets assistance from the population because they're fighting against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s. What's a little slavery and torture compared to living in {{Mordor}}? If the heroes can't immediately provide a [[TakeAThirdOption better alternative]], i.e. they really do need the Less Evil Side's assistance, a ConspiracyRedemption may be in order.

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** '''Being '''[[ALighterShadeOfBlack Being the Lesser Evil:''' Evil]]:''' In a world with BlackAndGrayMorality, the EvilOverlord gets assistance from the population because they're fighting against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s. What's a little slavery and torture compared to living in {{Mordor}}? If the heroes can't immediately provide a [[TakeAThirdOption better alternative]], i.e. they really do need the Less Evil Side's assistance, a ConspiracyRedemption may be in order.
12th Jan '17 8:01:34 AM Materioptikon
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* ComicBook/AmandaWaller controls the ComicBook/SuicideSquad via cranial bombs. When she works with heroes [[spoiler: or the first iteration of the Squad]], she buys their Loyalty via Money or Information. More subtly, she keeps them in line with Prejudice, carefully selecting the Squad members from the worst dregs of humanity to make ''damn'' sure they know they're irredeemable and that the Squad is probably the only good thing they are gonna ever be a part of. Authority and Respect are part of her arsenal as well.
6th Dec '16 3:42:45 AM Morgenthaler
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** '''Popular Sovereignty:''' Rather than being a legitimate authority figure installed by external sources, the Big Bad is elected or selected from from those below to implement an agenda. These villains are both easier and harder to combat than their cousins; since they achieved their authority through consent they can be discredited if shown to be [[YouHaveFailedMe incompetent]] or a StrawHypocrite. Unfortunately, these Big Bads rarely bring their organization down with them unless they were a special breed of BadAss or MagnificentBastard. There are always a long line of wannabe [[PresidentEvil evil presidents]] and pirate captains in the wings...

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** '''Popular Sovereignty:''' Rather than being a legitimate authority figure installed by external sources, the Big Bad is elected or selected from from those below to implement an agenda. These villains are both easier and harder to combat than their cousins; since they achieved their authority through consent they can be discredited if shown to be [[YouHaveFailedMe incompetent]] or a StrawHypocrite. Unfortunately, these Big Bads rarely bring their organization down with them unless they were a special breed of BadAss or MagnificentBastard. There are always a long line of wannabe [[PresidentEvil evil presidents]] and pirate captains in the wings...
5th Dec '16 11:27:48 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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* In ''Literature/CodexAlera'', Invidia Aquitaine controls most of her minions through Money, and got Fidelias on her side because he thinks that of all the factions in the succession crisis, she and her husband will be the least destructive to Alera (Being the Lesser Evil). [[spoiler: Fidelias ends up betraying her when a non-evil option comes up- the protagonist Tavi.]]
** Lord Kalarus mostly uses Mind Control in the form of slave collars that cause pleasure when the collared obeys the orders of whoever put the collar on and pain when they try to defy said orders. Training slaves who'd been collared since childhood resulted in troops known as the Immortals- perfectly obedient soldiers who FeelNoPain and will quite willingly sacrifice their lives to protect their master or complete a mission. On people whose minds he needs intact (or who he can't get to with the collars), he uses Money or Fear- he takes hostages and uses those to force their compliance.
** The Vord Queen also likes Mind Control. Other Vord obey her because she's the HiveQueen, and she recruits humans to her side using slave collars. She controls [[spoiler: Invidia]] through Fear (as she's on life support that the Vord Queen can cut off at any time), and [[spoiler: Brencis]] through Material Benefits- he hit the DespairEventHorizon after [[spoiler: the destruction of Kalare]] and now follows her because she allows him to indulge his hedonistic impulses in exchange for serving her.
13th Nov '16 10:53:17 AM Specialist290
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** '''Birthright:''' The Big Bad has some sort of birthright (for example, he's some sort of feudal warlord) and the mooks are bound to him by a code of honor/duty. Usually TheCaligula or GodSaveUsFromTheQueen. Only outright assassination or a coup d'etat from a good sibling can stop them.
** '''Divine Right:''' [[AGodAmI The villain claims to be a god]] or [[DivineRightOfKings has the blessing of a god]] to be TheLeader. Alternatively, may be a DarkMessiah faking/actually possessing either divine or demonic backing. Doesn't matter if they are Good or Evil; they will sometimes be worshiped and followed purely because they are divine.
** '''Obligation:''' Some people believe that [[IGaveMyWord a man's word is his bond]], and that even if they have no personal Loyalty to the villain, [[MyMasterRightOrWrong they have a contract, promise, or other obligation that they have to fulfill]]. In some cases, they may even be bound to the Big Bad by a MagicallyBindingContract regardless of what they would want to do themselves. The best routes the hero can take to defeat this will usually involve convincing the minion that their boss [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness has no intentions of keeping their promises]], finding [[LoopholeAbuse loopholes]] they can exploit, or coming up with a way to TakeAThirdOption that technically fulfills the obligation without harming the hero's cause.



** '''Prejudice:''' Villains love controlling prejudiced minions, because nothing short-circuits a minion's critical thinking abilities like whipping up hatred and a desire to dominate an "other". If revealing the villain to be a [[YouAreWhatYouHate secret target of the bigotry]] or a StrawHypocrite is too distasteful for the hero, they need to hunker down for long campaign to eliminate or at least ameliorate the minions' prejudice.

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** '''Prejudice:''' Villains love controlling prejudiced minions, '''Being the Lesser Evil:''' In a world with BlackAndGrayMorality, the EvilOverlord gets assistance from the population because nothing short-circuits they're fighting against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s. What's a minion's critical thinking abilities like whipping up hatred little slavery and a desire torture compared to dominate an "other". living in {{Mordor}}? If revealing the heroes can't immediately provide a [[TakeAThirdOption better alternative]], i.e. they really do need the Less Evil Side's assistance, a ConspiracyRedemption may be in order.
** '''EvilVersusOblivion:''' The
villain to be a [[YouAreWhatYouHate secret target of markets his methods as [[TheExtremistWasRight the bigotry]] or only viable solution]] to a StrawHypocrite crisis that will result in TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. The most likely way this particular motivator can be undermined is too distasteful for the hero, they need Hero to hunker down for long campaign find a way to eliminate or at least ameliorate the minions' prejudice.TakeAThirdOption that works and doesn't involve any undue coercion.



** '''Point of No Return:''' This villain is supported by his minions for one reason; if the villain falls, they will be severely punished by a legitimate authority. If the minions didn't do anything to earn punishment an honest promise from the hero to spare them will get many of them to abandon their leader. Minions may feel that they're TrappedInVillainy.
** '''Prejudice:''' Villains love controlling prejudiced minions, because nothing short-circuits a minion's critical thinking abilities like whipping up hatred and a desire to dominate an "other". If revealing the villain to be a [[YouAreWhatYouHate secret target of the bigotry]] or a StrawHypocrite is too distasteful for the hero, they need to hunker down for long campaign to eliminate or at least ameliorate the minions' prejudice.



** '''BlindObedience:''' The minions genuinely believe their boss to be incapable of error, usually paired with an oath for UndyingLoyalty to make questioning their authority the farthest thing from their mind. MyMasterRightOrWrong sometimes crop up.



** '''Love:''' The BigBad is an emotional manipulator, TheVamp, or has MoreThanMindControl / LoveIsInTheAir as a power. They can also [[EvilVirtues love and inspire love in others.]] All his or her minions do evil out of love.



** '''BlindObedience:''' The minions genuinely believe their boss to be incapable of error, usually paired with an oath for UndyingLoyalty to make questioning their authority the farthest thing from their mind. MyMasterRightOrWrong sometimes crop up.
* '''Money:''' [[CrimefightingWithCash Money is a valid super power after all]], and the bad guy hires {{Punch Clock Villain}}s to do his evil bidding. Being motivated by filthy lucre (or having SignedUpForTheDental), the best way for heroes to cause a mass desertion is either to outbid the bad guy or bankrupt him. If the villain is rich enough, this can be the most effective kind of control.
* '''Love:''' The BigBad is an emotional manipulator, TheVamp, or has MoreThanMindControl / LoveIsInTheAir as a power. They can also [[EvilVirtues love and inspire love in others.]] All his or her minions do evil out of love.
** '''Sexual Favors''': A more direct but less effective form of the above. A common method for FemmeFatale characters, it generally only works on a few minions at a time, and rarely is the sole motivator.

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** '''BlindObedience:''' The * '''Material Benefits''': Sometimes, the reason minions genuinely believe their boss follow a villain comes down to be incapable a matter of error, usually paired with an oath simple supply and demand -- the villain promises to give them something they want in exchange for UndyingLoyalty services rendered, or that the job itself will serve as a means to an end to make questioning what they want easier to get. If not bound by any other ties, the simplest way for the heroes to counter this is simply [[CutLexLuthorACheck helping the minions find more convenient legitimate ways]] to get what they want.
** '''[[VetinariJobSecurity Incidental Importance]]:''' This tactic, favored by [[EmperorScientist Emperor Scientists]] and {{Dark Messiah}}s especially, is to provide some sort of benefit to
their minions that is unrelated to their ruling over them. The idea is that if this person is buttressing their economy or mass-curing plagues around the countryside, they'll be able to do so better (or alternatively, threaten not to so do) if they get authority alongside it. These villains need to be undercut by separating the farthest thing benefit from their mind. MyMasterRightOrWrong sometimes crop up.
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the authority figure or just showing that there is AlwaysSomeoneBetter.
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'''Money:''' [[CrimefightingWithCash Money is a valid super power after all]], and the bad guy hires {{Punch Clock Villain}}s to do his evil bidding. Being motivated by filthy lucre (or having SignedUpForTheDental), the best way for heroes to cause a mass desertion is either to outbid the bad guy or bankrupt him. If the villain is rich enough, this can be the most effective kind of control.
* '''Love:''' The BigBad is an emotional manipulator, TheVamp, or has MoreThanMindControl / LoveIsInTheAir as a power. They can also [[EvilVirtues love and inspire love in others.]] All his or her minions do evil out of love.
** '''Sexual Favors''': A more direct but less effective form of the above.reward, and sometimes overlaps with Love under Loyalty. A common method for FemmeFatale characters, it generally only works on a few minions at a time, and rarely is the sole motivator.



* '''A Piece of the Action''': Not only is the BigBad powerful, he can empower his minions, either as officials in his new regime, or by giving the superhuman powers.
* '''Sadism:''' The bad guys follow the BigBad because he gives them a way to indulge their worst sides, be it [[CombatSadomasochist hurting people]], [[BloodKnight fighting]], [[PsychoForHire killing]], [[MadScientist mad scientific experiments]], or just plain [[EvilIsPetty being cruel to other people]]. They particularly love orders from the BigBad that give them free rein to do whatever they want, usually to some chosen victim. It's unlikely that the hero can offer them more than the Big Bad, but if they can manipulate either side into EvenMooksHaveLovedOnes or a VillainousDemotivator, betrayal will ensue.
* '''Birthright:''' The Big Bad has some sort of birthright (for example, he's some sort of feudal warlord) and the mooks are bound to him by a code of honor/duty. Usually TheCaligula or GodSaveUsFromTheQueen. Only outright assassination or a coup d'etat from a good sibling can stop them.



* '''[[VetinariJobSecurity Incidental Importance]]:''' This tactic, favored by [[EmperorScientist Emperor Scientists]] and {{Dark Messiah}}s especially, is to provide some sort of benefit to their minions that is unrelated to their ruling over them. The idea is that if this person is buttressing their economy or mass-curing plagues around the countryside, they'll be able to do so better (or alternatively, threaten not to so do) if they get authority alongside it. These villains need to be undercut by separating the benefit from the authority figure or just showing that there is AlwaysSomeoneBetter.
* '''Divine Right:''' [[AGodAmI The villain claims to be a god]] or [[DivineRightOfKings has the blessing of a god]] to be TheLeader. Alternatively, may be a DarkMessiah faking/actually possessing either divine or demonic backing. Doesn't matter if they are Good or Evil; they will sometimes be worshipped and followed purely because they are divine.
* '''Being the Lesser Evil:''' In a world with BlackAndGrayMorality, the EvilOverlord gets assistance from the population because they're fighting against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s. What's a little slavery and torture compared to living in {{Mordor}}? If the heroes can't immediately provide a [[TakeAThirdOption better alternative]], i.e. they really do need the Less Evil Side's assistance, a ConspiracyRedemption may be in order.
** '''Point of No Return:''' This villain is supported by his minions for one reason; if the villain falls, they will be severely punished by a legitimate authority. If the minions didn't do anything to earn punishment an honest promise from the hero to spare them will get many of them to abandon their leader. Minions may feel that they're TrappedInVillainy.
** '''EvilVersusOblivion:''' The villain markets his methods as [[TheExtremistWasRight the only viable solution]] to a crisis that will result in TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. The most likely way this particular motivator can be undermined is for the Hero to find a way to TakeAThirdOption that works and doesn't involve any undue coercion.

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* '''[[VetinariJobSecurity Incidental Importance]]:''' This tactic, favored ** '''A Piece of the Action''': Not only is the BigBad powerful, he can empower his minions, either as officials in his new regime, or by [[EmperorScientist Emperor Scientists]] and {{Dark Messiah}}s especially, is giving the superhuman powers.
** '''Sadism:''' The bad guys follow the BigBad because he gives them a way
to provide some sort of benefit to indulge their minions that is unrelated worst sides, be it [[CombatSadomasochist hurting people]], [[BloodKnight fighting]], [[PsychoForHire killing]], [[MadScientist mad scientific experiments]], or just plain [[EvilIsPetty being cruel to their ruling over them. The idea is that if this person is buttressing their economy or mass-curing plagues around the countryside, they'll be able to do so better (or alternatively, threaten not to so do) if they get authority alongside it. These villains need to be undercut by separating the benefit other people]]. They particularly love orders from the authority figure or just showing BigBad that there is AlwaysSomeoneBetter.
* '''Divine Right:''' [[AGodAmI The villain claims
give them free rein to be a god]] or [[DivineRightOfKings has the blessing of a god]] to be TheLeader. Alternatively, may be a DarkMessiah faking/actually possessing either divine or demonic backing. Doesn't matter if do whatever they are Good or Evil; they will sometimes be worshipped and followed purely because they are divine.
* '''Being the Lesser Evil:''' In a world with BlackAndGrayMorality, the EvilOverlord gets assistance from the population because they're fighting against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s. What's a little slavery and torture compared
want, usually to living in {{Mordor}}? If the heroes can't immediately provide a [[TakeAThirdOption better alternative]], i.e. they really do need the Less Evil Side's assistance, a ConspiracyRedemption may be in order.
** '''Point of No Return:''' This villain is supported by his minions for one reason; if the villain falls, they will be severely punished by a legitimate authority. If the minions didn't do anything to earn punishment an honest promise from
some chosen victim. It's unlikely that the hero to spare can offer them more than the Big Bad, but if they can manipulate either side into EvenMooksHaveLovedOnes or a VillainousDemotivator, betrayal will get many of them to abandon their leader. Minions may feel that they're TrappedInVillainy.
** '''EvilVersusOblivion:''' The villain markets his methods as [[TheExtremistWasRight the only viable solution]] to a crisis that will result in TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. The most likely way this particular motivator can be undermined is for the Hero to find a way to TakeAThirdOption that works and doesn't involve any undue coercion.
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1st Nov '16 10:17:46 AM Anddrix
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* The Red Queen of Hearts in the 2010 ''Film/AliceInWonderland'' (and in most other incarnations, really) leads through a combination of Fear and Birthright.

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* The Red Queen of Hearts in the 2010 ''Film/AliceInWonderland'' ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' (and in most other incarnations, really) leads through a combination of Fear and Birthright.
20th Oct '16 4:52:33 PM WaxingName
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* Dio Brando of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' willing to use every trick in the book to recruit minions. Want money? Name your price. Want sex? Male or female, he's totally willing. In an emotionally vulnerable position and looking for guidance? Dio's happy to show the way. Still don't want to join? Well, we've got [[MindControl flesh buds]] for that.

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* Dio Brando of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' ''Franchise/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' is willing to use every trick in the book to recruit minions. Want money? Name your price. Want sex? Male or female, he's totally willing. In an emotionally vulnerable position and looking for guidance? Dio's happy to show the way. Still don't want to join? Well, we've got [[MindControl flesh buds]] for that.
13th Oct '16 9:13:35 AM MasterGhandalf
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* [[GodEmperor The Lord Ruler]] from ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'' mixes several of these: Power (being a OneManArmy PhysicalGod), Divine Right (he's regarded ''as'' the Avatar of God in his empire) and Being the Lesser Evil (he won his throne by defeating an OmnicidalManiac). He also uses different tactics on different social classes, controlling the [[SlaveRace skaa]] through fear, the [[AristocratsAreEvil nobility]] through bread and circuses (the nobility can indulge themselves practically any way they want, so long as they don't question the system or work against the Lord Ruler himself) and the [[CorruptChurch Obligators]] through Authority as the head of their religion.
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