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19th Jun '18 6:17:06 AM havoc
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*State of nature is a philosophy that humans are more than willing to fight each other and without a ruling power to keep everyone in check, life tends to be short and brutish. In this state, there is neither law nor security, only absolute freedom.
14th Jun '18 3:39:46 PM costanton11
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'''''InUniverseExamplesOnly''''''''''!''''' As far as everyone knows, this is ''not'' TruthInTelevision as there '''are''' [[HumansAreFlawed people who are good.]] And as we all know, when humanity is told as a race who's AlwaysChaoticEvil, these people, along with the rest of humanity [[InternetBackdraft won't be too happy about it.]]

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'''''InUniverseExamplesOnly''''''''''!''''' '''''Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly''''''''''!''''' As far as everyone knows, this is ''not'' TruthInTelevision as there '''are''' [[HumansAreFlawed people who are good.]] And as we all know, when humanity is told as a race who's AlwaysChaoticEvil, these people, along with the rest of humanity [[InternetBackdraft won't be too happy about it.]]



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10th Jun '18 10:35:50 PM AppleGates
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InUniverseExamplesOnly! As far as everyone knows, this is ''not'' TruthInTelevision as there '''are''' [[HumansAreFlawed people who are good.]] And as we all know, when humanity is told as a race who's AlwaysChaoticallyEvil, these people, along with the rest of humanity [[InternetBackdraft won't be too happy about it.]]


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'''''InUniverseExamplesOnly''''''''''!''''' As far as everyone knows, this is ''not'' TruthInTelevision as there '''are''' [[HumansAreFlawed people who are good.]] And as we all know, when humanity is told as a race who's AlwaysChaoticEvil, these people, along with the rest of humanity [[InternetBackdraft won't be too happy about it.]]
10th Jun '18 10:25:44 PM AppleGates
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10th Jun '18 1:53:30 AM AppleGates
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InUniverseExamplesOnly! As far as everyone knows, this is ''not'' TruthInTelevision as there '''are''' [[HumansAreFlawed people who are good.]] And as we all know, when humanity is told as a race who's AlwaysChaoticallyEvil, these people, along with the rest of humanity [[InternetBackdraft won't be too happy about it.]]



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13th May '18 9:17:33 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Creator/MarvelComics generally follows this trope given how much of a CrapsackWorld it tends to be. Most people who get powers or advanced tech are more than willing to abuse it. Many humans are usually shown as incredibly corrupt, stupid racists who turn on their own heroes for any reason, support programs like concentration camps and Sentinels, and are more than willing to sell mankind out to invaders, dark gods or whomever is threatening them at the moment. About the only thing holding the planet together are the heroes and a minority of other decent people. Most futures tend to end badly for humanity and most alien races hold this opinion of humans and would not miss humanity if it were to destroy itself. There are some exceptions and in the aliens' case, for some races, it is a matter of MoralMyopia.

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* Creator/MarvelComics generally follows this trope given how much of a CrapsackWorld it tends to be. It starts with their very first superhero book, Submariner, picks up with The Incredible Hulk and hits it's Zenith with X-men. Most people who get powers or advanced tech are more than willing to abuse it. Many humans are usually shown as incredibly corrupt, stupid racists who turn on their own heroes for any reason, support programs like concentration camps and Sentinels, killer robot Sentinels designed to commit genocide against undesirable parts of the population, and are more than willing to sell mankind out to demonic invaders, alien invaders, dark gods or whomever is threatening them at the moment. About the only thing holding the planet together are the heroes and a minority of other decent people. Most futures tend to end badly for humanity and most alien races hold this opinion of humans and would not miss humanity if it were to destroy itself. There are some exceptions and in the aliens' case, for some most races, it is a matter of MoralMyopia.MoralMyopia since AliensAreBastards equally applies.
21st Apr '18 5:10:15 PM Khrunwahl02
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* In ''Film/TransformersFilmSeries'', following the events of the third film, the humans have outlawed all Transformers, both Autobot and Decepticon, and begin to hunt down both factions all without acknowledging that if it weren't for the Autobots they'd all be dead or enslaved by now. The Autobots only chose to save them out of pure sympathy for the entire film series, and the humans sell their leader Optimus Prime out to Lockdown for the Seed in hopes of creating an army of robots for themselves.

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* This is a prominent motif in the ''Film/TransformersFilmSeries'':
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In ''Film/TransformersFilmSeries'', following the first film, both Ironhide and Megatron tell Optimus that humans are primitive brutes who are better off dead as while Optimus asserts that they're just young, underdeveloped and overall naive.
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the events of the third film, the humans have outlawed all Transformers, both Autobot and Decepticon, and begin to hunt down both factions all without acknowledging that if it weren't for the Autobots they'd all be dead or enslaved by now. The Autobots only chose to save them out of pure sympathy for the entire film series, and the humans sell their leader Optimus Prime out to Lockdown for the Seed in hopes of creating an army of robots for themselves.
12th Apr '18 2:47:14 AM jormis29
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* Discussed by two fae in ''{{Gungnir}}''. Appears a lot in the ''VideoGame/DeptHeaven'' series as a whole, though some may have reasons for being bastards. [[spoiler:Some may end up not even being human at all!]]

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* Discussed by two fae in ''{{Gungnir}}''.''VideoGame/{{Gungnir}}''. Appears a lot in the ''VideoGame/DeptHeaven'' series as a whole, though some may have reasons for being bastards. [[spoiler:Some may end up not even being human at all!]]
4th Apr '18 9:28:27 PM __Vano
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In essence Humans Are Bastards is the reverse of RousseauWasRight -- the natural proclivity of humanity is towards [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], [[BystanderSyndrome apathy]] and violence. Only a select few people manage to rise above their base nature to become something better, but the kernel of darkness is still inborn. When Humans Are Bastards is in effect, even your "heroes" don't have clean hands, so most conflict is [[BlackAndGrayMorality gray against black]], with some [[GreyAndGrayMorality gray against gray]] or [[EvilVersusEvil black against black]] on for variety. Frequently used by [[OmnicidalManiac Omnicidal Maniacs]] as an argument in favor of a [[ApocalypseHow/Class3A Class 3a Apocalypse]].

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In essence Humans Are Bastards is the reverse of RousseauWasRight -- the natural proclivity of humanity is towards [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], [[BystanderSyndrome apathy]] and violence. Only a select few people manage to rise above their base nature to become something better, but the kernel of darkness is still inborn.InTheBlood. When Humans Are Bastards is in effect, even your "heroes" don't have clean hands, so most conflict is [[BlackAndGrayMorality gray against black]], with some [[GreyAndGrayMorality gray against gray]] or [[EvilVersusEvil black against black]] on for variety. Frequently used by [[OmnicidalManiac Omnicidal Maniacs]] as an argument in favor of a [[ApocalypseHow/Class3A Class 3a Apocalypse]].
30th Mar '18 1:43:32 AM Khrunwahl02
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* In ''Film/TransformersFilmSeries'', following the events of the third film, the humans have outlawed all Transformers, both Autobot and Decepticon, and begin to hunt down both factions all without acknowledging that if it weren't for the Autobots they'd all be dead or enslaved by now. The Autobots only chose to save them out of pure sympathy for the entire film series, and the humans sell their leader Optimus Prime out to Lockdown for the Seed in hopes of creating an army of robots for themselves.
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