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26th Sep '16 11:52:45 PM Dingbot
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** It is torpedoed when it is lured to the surface rather then under the surface. The original writer was a submariner himself and knew perfectly well that it was pretty much impossible for one submerged submarine to torpedo another in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.

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** It is torpedoed when it is lured to the surface rather then than under the surface. The original writer was a submariner himself and knew perfectly well that it was pretty much impossible for one submerged submarine to torpedo another in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
19th Sep '16 2:17:14 AM MAI742
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In the ''long'' history of submarines being used in warfare, which goes back ''at least'' to 1775... how many times do you think a submerged submarine has sunk another submerged submarine? 500? 200? 100? 50? 10?

Actually, just once, during Operation Caesar in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, when HMS ''Venturer'' sank ''U-864''. (Good thing for the Allies too, since the ''U-864'' was transporting advanced technology to Japan). A second example, lacking citation, involves the captured German U-Boat later re-launched as HMS ''Morse''. The ''Morse'' was used by the Royal Navy to patrol the sea lanes leading back to the German home bases in western France, the intention being for returning German U-Boats, relaxing security on the last stage home, to see nothing more than a friendly submarine. Which would then run up the White Ensign and fire a spread of torpedoes at them. The ''Morse'' sank several U-Boats in surface attacks and may have made one kill while submerged.

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In the ''long'' history (at least back to 1775) and ''considerable'' number (more than 2000) of submarines being used in warfare, which goes back ''at least'' to 1775...warfare... how many times do you think a submerged submarine has sunk another submerged submarine? 500? 200? 100? 50? 10?

Actually, to the best of our knowledge it has happened just once, during Operation Caesar in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, when HMS ''Venturer'' sank ''U-864''. (Good thing for the Allies too, ''U-864'' [[note]] thankfully, since the ''U-864'' was transporting several types of industrial {{Unobtanium}}, advanced technology vehicle blueprints, and technical experts (back) to Japan). Japan [[/note]]. A second example, lacking citation, involves may have involved the captured German U-Boat later re-launched as HMS ''Morse''. ''Morse'' [[note]] The ''Morse'' was used by the Royal Navy to patrol the sea lanes leading back to the German home bases in western France, the intention being for returning German U-Boats, relaxing security on the last stage home, to see nothing more than a friendly submarine. Which submarine - which would then run up the White Ensign and fire a spread of torpedoes at them. The ''Morse'' sank several U-Boats in surface attacks and may ''may'' have made sunk one kill while submerged.
submerged [[/note]]
8th Aug '16 3:33:59 AM Ripburger
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* ''VideoGame/XCom: Terror From The Deep'' had this when intercepting alien craft. Then again, all of the alien races from this installment of the X-Com series were amphibious, traveled around in weird-looking submarines, and came from a colony ship that crashed some 65 million years ago.

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* ''VideoGame/XCom: Terror From The Deep'' ''VideoGame/XCOMTerrorFromTheDeep'' had this when intercepting alien craft. Then again, all of the alien races from this installment of the X-Com series were amphibious, traveled around in weird-looking submarines, and came from a colony ship that crashed some 65 million years ago.
24th Jul '16 2:09:24 PM Morgenthaler
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* DangerousWaters.

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* DangerousWaters.VideoGame/DangerousWaters.
28th May '16 10:23:19 PM nombretomado
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* PS1 game ''VideoGame/CriticalDepth'' was basically Twisted Metal UNDERWATER. Subs ranged from a wooden pirate sub with cannons to a converted private jet. It was not very realistic.

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* PS1 The [=PS1=] game ''VideoGame/CriticalDepth'' was basically Twisted Metal UNDERWATER. Subs ranged from a wooden pirate sub with cannons to a converted private jet. It was not very realistic.
3rd Mar '16 12:28:53 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''{{Cyborg 009}}'' features a scene where the team's mobile base is being pursued separately by both an American and Soviet sub. The heroes make their getaway when the two subs notice each other and begin fighting.

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* ''{{Cyborg ''Manga/{{Cyborg 009}}'' features a scene where the team's mobile base is being pursued separately by both an American and Soviet sub. The heroes make their getaway when the two subs notice each other and begin fighting.



* ''Film/{{U571}}'' does this, with the Americans in the captured German U-Boat destroying another submerged German U-Boat with torpedoes.

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* ''Film/{{U571}}'' ''Film/{{U 571}}'' does this, with the Americans in the captured German U-Boat destroying another submerged German U-Boat with torpedoes.



* ''InEnemyHands'' features several undersea battles with American and German submarines in the closing days of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.

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* ''InEnemyHands'' ''Film/InEnemyHands'' features several undersea battles with American and German submarines in the closing days of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



* Subs are reasonably effective against other subs in ''RiseOfNations'', though [[TacticalRockPaperScissors ultimately less effective than cruisers at the job]].

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* Subs are reasonably effective against other subs in ''RiseOfNations'', ''VideoGame/RiseOfNations'', though [[TacticalRockPaperScissors ultimately less effective than cruisers at the job]].



* ''{{X-Com}}: Terror From The Deep'' had this when intercepting alien craft. Then again, all of the alien races from this installment of the X-Com series were amphibious, traveled around in weird-looking submarines, and came from a colony ship that crashed some 65 million years ago.

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* ''{{X-Com}}: ''VideoGame/XCom: Terror From The Deep'' had this when intercepting alien craft. Then again, all of the alien races from this installment of the X-Com series were amphibious, traveled around in weird-looking submarines, and came from a colony ship that crashed some 65 million years ago.



* ''{{Archipelago}}'' has a few submarine battles, although most are implied, with only one actually seen in the story so far. It was, however, epic, and involved grappling onto and then ''boarding'' the other sub. Without surfacing.

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* ''{{Archipelago}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Archipelago}}'' has a few submarine battles, although most are implied, with only one actually seen in the story so far. It was, however, epic, and involved grappling onto and then ''boarding'' the other sub. Without surfacing.



* 'Simpsons Tide', an episode of ''TheSimpsons'' where Homer joins the Naval Reserve and is assigned to a nuclear submarine during a war games exercise. Predictably enough, [[HilarityEnsues he ends up in command after shooting the captain out of a torpedo tube (hitting an enemy sub) and nearly starts World War III.]]

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* 'Simpsons Tide', "Simpsons Tide", an episode of ''TheSimpsons'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' where Homer joins the Naval Reserve and is assigned to a nuclear submarine during a war games exercise. Predictably enough, [[HilarityEnsues he ends up in command after shooting the captain out of a torpedo tube (hitting an enemy sub) and nearly starts World War III.]]
28th Nov '15 1:57:06 PM nombretomado
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* ''SeaQuestDSV'', in its third season had [[RuleOfCool actual]] [[SpaceFighter ''sub fighters'']] - the Specter-class for [[TheFederation the UEO forces]], and a host of other types for various bad guys forces.

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* ''SeaQuestDSV'', ''Series/SeaQuestDSV'', in its third season had [[RuleOfCool actual]] [[SpaceFighter ''sub fighters'']] - the Specter-class for [[TheFederation the UEO forces]], and a host of other types for various bad guys forces.
15th Nov '15 12:00:51 AM nombretomado
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* Another particularly brutal minisub duel occurs in the Film/JamesBond film ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly''. The bad guy's sub was actually piloted by the man who designed it, Graham Hawkes, who, amusingly, tried so hard to make the fight scene realistic (having been ordered to by the director, despite his earlier protests it was unsafe) that he almost killed RogerMoore's stunt double.

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* Another particularly brutal minisub duel occurs in the Film/JamesBond film ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly''. The bad guy's sub was actually piloted by the man who designed it, Graham Hawkes, who, amusingly, tried so hard to make the fight scene realistic (having been ordered to by the director, despite his earlier protests it was unsafe) that he almost killed RogerMoore's Creator/RogerMoore's stunt double.
12th Sep '15 9:48:23 PM nombretomado
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* In ''AdvanceWars'', sub-sub fights are quite common because submerged subs can only be attacked by cruisers and other subs. Given that cruisers are not constantly invisible and very vulnerable to battleships and bombers, they tend to be prime targets of opportunity and generally die quicker than subs. A sub attacking another sub will do between 55-65% damage; most sub battles end up with 8 HP on the attacker and 4 on the defender.

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* In ''AdvanceWars'', ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars'', sub-sub fights are quite common because submerged subs can only be attacked by cruisers and other subs. Given that cruisers are not constantly invisible and very vulnerable to battleships and bombers, they tend to be prime targets of opportunity and generally die quicker than subs. A sub attacking another sub will do between 55-65% damage; most sub battles end up with 8 HP on the attacker and 4 on the defender.
26th Aug '15 1:14:58 AM TuefelHundenIV
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* ''VideoGame/FromTheDepths'': One of the best ways to deal with enemy subs is to send your own sub after them.
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