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19th Jun '16 12:33:53 PM ScotieRw
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* Parts of Literature/TheBible command honor killing for alleged sexual misconduct. In Leviticus 21:9 of Old Testament, a Levite's daughter is to be subjected to honor killing if she becomes a prostitute. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 commands that a female is to be stoned to death if she is suspected of not being a virgin on her wedding night. [[OlderThanTheyThink Even before those laws were written down]], in Genesis 38:24-30, Judah calls for Tamar to be burned to death for becoming pregnant out of wedlock through prostitution. [[spoiler: In a ShockingSwerve, he spares her life, because she reveals that ''he'' is the father, and she only impersonated a shrine prostitute because he was trying to weasel his way out of a levirate marriage. He even goes on to say that in doing what she did (thus fulfilling her duty to carry on his family lineage), she is more righteous than he is.]]
** The Bible contains laws specifically against fornication (aimed at both sexes) and against prostitution, so the laws aren't strictly family-honor related as much as being part of the general law. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 details how a stubborn son, who drinks, is rebellious, and otherwise dishonors and disobeys his family should be dealt with (by stoning) if his family can't control him.

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* Parts of Literature/TheBible command honor killing for alleged sexual misconduct. In Leviticus 21:9 of Old Testament, a Levite's daughter is to be subjected to honor killing if she becomes a prostitute. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 commands that a female is to be stoned to death if she is suspected of not being a virgin on her wedding night. [[OlderThanTheyThink Even before those laws were written down]], in Genesis 38:24-30, Judah calls for Tamar to be burned to death for becoming pregnant out of wedlock through prostitution. [[spoiler: In a ShockingSwerve, he spares her life, because she reveals that ''he'' is the father, and she only impersonated a shrine prostitute because he was trying to weasel his way out of a levirate marriage. He even goes on to say that in doing what she did (thus fulfilling her duty to carry on his family lineage), she is more righteous than he is.]]
** The Bible contains laws specifically against fornication (aimed at both sexes) and against prostitution, so the laws aren't strictly family-honor related as much as being part of the general law. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 details how a stubborn son, who drinks, is rebellious, and otherwise dishonors and disobeys his family should be dealt with (by stoning) if his family can't control him.

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7th Jun '16 9:34:14 PM Medinoc
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* Melusine (an anthropomorphic dolphin) in ''Webcomic/{{Concession}}'' was murdered by her brother-in-law for getting impregnated by a land-dweller. Prompting the father to destroy an entire city and her to come back as an insane ghost.

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* Melusine (an anthropomorphic dolphin) in ''Webcomic/{{Concession}}'' was murdered by her brother-in-law for getting impregnated by a land-dweller. Prompting the father to destroy an Said land-dweller reacted rather badly, willfully causing a disaster that destroyed her community's entire city and her to come seaside city, while she came back as an insane ghost.
insane, vengeful ghost (who in retrospect, may have influenced the former).
1st Jun '16 3:19:17 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Swedish book ''Mordet på Fadime'' (The murder of Fadime) revolves around this, especially the case that made "honor killings" a well known concept in Sweden.

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* The Swedish book ''Mordet på Fadime'' (The murder of Fadime) revolves around this, especially the case that made "honor killings" a well known concept in Sweden.



** ''Literature/MatteoFalcone'' by Prosper Mérimée has exactly the same plot.

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* ChildBallad 65, "Lady Maisry" is a Border ballad about a young Scottish girl who falls in love with an Englishman and becomes pregnant by him after refusing to marry any of the Scottish lords her family approved of. In response, her family has her burned alive.

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* ChildBallad 65, "Lady Maisry" is a Border ballad about a young Scottish girl who falls in love with an Englishman and becomes pregnant by him after refusing to marry any of the Scottish lords her family approved of. In response, her family has her burned alive.



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5th May '16 1:18:19 PM talltalltree
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* In an episode of ''Series/SilentWitness'', a Vietnamese woman was subjected to this after her arranged marriage fell through because the groom discovered she wasn't a virgin.
* The TV movie ''Murdered By My Father'', in which the titular event happens when a young girl gets a boyfriend and tries to reject the arranged marriage her father had planned for her. The father is also subjected to this trope, since the groom's family have him beaten up when they find out.
4th May '16 7:54:36 PM mlsmithca
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HonorRelatedAbuse is bit odd because... well, it sort of goes against the natural instinct to, you know, ''love'' and be loving to your family. It has in any case given us some hilariously psychotic statements along the lines of [[HonorBeforeReason 'we had to lock them in the cellar for twenty years/beat/rape/kill them because it was for their own good/we loved them']]. While it's fairly typical of pre-modern societies (like pre-19th/20th century Europe), the [[BlueAndOrangeMorality value systems]] that make HonorRelatedAbuse look like a jolly good idea seem a bit... ''dated'' now that we believe that ''nobody'' has the right to do certain things to other people, like imprison/assault/rape/murder them. This is particularly jarring when it comes to the whole 'rape victim = DefiledForever' thing. To people with modern sensibilities it's all just a teensy bit [[ValuesDissonance repulsive]].

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HonorRelatedAbuse Honor-Related Abuse is bit odd because... well, it sort of goes against the natural instinct to, you know, ''love'' and be loving to your family. It has in any case given us some hilariously psychotic statements along the lines of [[HonorBeforeReason 'we had to lock them in the cellar for twenty years/beat/rape/kill them because it was for their own good/we loved them']]. While it's fairly typical of pre-modern societies (like pre-19th/20th century Europe), the [[BlueAndOrangeMorality value systems]] that make HonorRelatedAbuse Honor-Related Abuse look like a jolly good idea seem a bit... ''dated'' now that we believe that ''nobody'' has the right to do certain things to other people, like imprison/assault/rape/murder them. This is particularly jarring when it comes to the whole 'rape victim = DefiledForever' thing. To people with modern sensibilities it's all just a teensy bit [[ValuesDissonance repulsive]].



* The movie ''Not Without My Daughter'' (as well as the book it's based on) tells the story of a failed marriage and a custody battle as entirely a matter of HonorRelatedAbuse. The characters start out as an American family, although the husband is of Iranian descent. They are happy with each other until they visit Iran, and the husband's relatives there can start putting much more pressure on him than they could long-distance. In his new-found role as protector of the family honor, he starts battering his wife and brainwashing his daughter. While the wife and daughter are victims of the husband-turned-monster, he is also clearly portrayed as a victim of his own (even by Iranian standards) ultra-conservative family. Since the daughter has been given Iranian citizenship (without the mother's consent), the mother can't even try to take her back to America without risking the death penalty. Eventually, they manage to flee the country and return home to the USA.

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* The movie ''Not Without My Daughter'' (as well as the book it's based on) tells the story of a failed marriage and a custody battle as entirely a matter of HonorRelatedAbuse.Honor-Related Abuse. The characters start out as an American family, although the husband is of Iranian descent. They are happy with each other until they visit Iran, and the husband's relatives there can start putting much more pressure on him than they could long-distance. In his new-found role as protector of the family honor, he starts battering his wife and brainwashing his daughter. While the wife and daughter are victims of the husband-turned-monster, he is also clearly portrayed as a victim of his own (even by Iranian standards) ultra-conservative family. Since the daughter has been given Iranian citizenship (without the mother's consent), the mother can't even try to take her back to America without risking the death penalty. Eventually, they manage to flee the country and return home to the USA.



* Rare male example: Prince Zuko from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' experienced a ''ton'' of this from his father, Fire Lord Ozai. After Zuko spoke out against a plan to [[WeHaveReserves use new military recruits as cannon fodder]], Ozai torched his face and banished him on a WildGooseChase to hunt down the Avatar (who hadn't been seen in a century). After the Avatar showed up and Zuko ''still'' didn't capture him, Ozai sent his daughter Azula to capture her brother. Eventually, [[spoiler:Zuko was welcomed back after supposedly killing the Avatar, but then did a HeelFaceTurn and spectacularly [[CallingTheOldManOut called his father out]] - to which Ozai responded by [[OffingTheOffspring trying to electrocute him]]. During the GrandFinale, Ozai is away fighting Aang, so Azula takes up the mantle of HonorRelatedAbuse and tries to electrocute him ''again'' - and she would have succeeded if Katara hadn't stepped in to save him.]]

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* Rare male example: Prince Zuko from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' experienced a ''ton'' of this from his father, Fire Lord Ozai. After Zuko spoke out against a plan to [[WeHaveReserves use new military recruits as cannon fodder]], Ozai torched his face and banished him on a WildGooseChase to hunt down the Avatar (who hadn't been seen in a century). After the Avatar showed up and Zuko ''still'' didn't capture him, Ozai sent his daughter Azula to capture her brother. Eventually, [[spoiler:Zuko was welcomed back after supposedly killing the Avatar, but then did a HeelFaceTurn and spectacularly [[CallingTheOldManOut called his father out]] - to which Ozai responded by [[OffingTheOffspring trying to electrocute him]]. During the GrandFinale, Ozai is away fighting Aang, so Azula takes up the mantle of HonorRelatedAbuse Honor-Related Abuse and tries to electrocute him ''again'' - and she would have succeeded if Katara hadn't stepped in to save him.]]
21st Mar '16 5:51:54 PM thatother1dude
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* An incredibly rare Japanese example is to be seen in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', which is even rarer than usual because A: the victim is a male being abused by a female, and B: it's strictly [[ComedicSociopathy played for laughs]]. Ranma Saotome's mother, Nodoka, is introduced to the series fanatically obsessed with a contract that Genma made before he took Ranma away at the age of roughly 5 or 6, which declares that Ranma must become a "man among men" or else he and his father will have to commit {{seppuku}}. This would be abusive enough, especially when one takes into account the fact Ranma was far too young to legally understand what he was "signing" and the fact the contract is written up as (paraphrasing, and being generous) "I will become manly or commit seppuku". But Nodoka is so obsessed with it that she carries a sharp-bladed sword wherever she goes, just in case she encounters Ranma and must immediately put him to death. This, and the times she either almost forces Ranma to go through with it (pre-joining the cast) or threatens Ranma & Genma into going along with her wishes by mentioning it (afterwards), is played for laughs.

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* An incredibly rare Japanese example is to be seen in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', which is even rarer than usual because A: the victim is a male being abused by a female, and B: it's strictly [[ComedicSociopathy played for laughs]]. ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': Ranma Saotome's mother, Nodoka, is introduced to the series fanatically obsessed with a contract that Genma made before he took Ranma away at the age of roughly 5 or 6, which declares that Ranma must become a "man among men" or else he and his father will have to commit {{seppuku}}. This would be abusive enough, especially when one takes into account the fact Ranma was far too young to legally understand what he was "signing" and the fact the contract is written up as (paraphrasing, and being generous) "I will become manly or commit seppuku". But Nodoka is so obsessed with it that she carries a sharp-bladed sword wherever she goes, just in case she encounters Ranma and must immediately put him to death. This, and the times she either almost forces Ranma to go through with it (pre-joining the cast) or threatens Ranma & Genma into going along with her wishes by mentioning it (afterwards), is played for laughs.
27th Feb '16 9:24:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* The movie ''Not Without My Daughter'' (as well as the book it's based on) tells the story of a failed marriage and a custody battle as entirely a matter of HonorRelatedAbuse. The characters start out as an American family, although the husband is of Iranian descent. They are happy with each other until they visit Iran, and the husband's relatives there can start putting much more pressure on him than they could long-distance. In his new-found role as protector of the family honor, he starts battering his wife and brainwashing his daughter. While the wife and daughter are victims of the husband-turned-monster, he is also clearly portrayed as a victim of his own (even by Iranian standards) ultra-conservative family.
** Since the daughter has been given Iranian citizenship (without the mother's consent), the mother can't even try to take her back to America without risking the death penalty. Eventually, they manage to flee the country and return home to the USA.
*** Note that the above is VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory. The real incident is much more complex. Check The Other Wiki for details.

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* The movie ''Not Without My Daughter'' (as well as the book it's based on) tells the story of a failed marriage and a custody battle as entirely a matter of HonorRelatedAbuse. The characters start out as an American family, although the husband is of Iranian descent. They are happy with each other until they visit Iran, and the husband's relatives there can start putting much more pressure on him than they could long-distance. In his new-found role as protector of the family honor, he starts battering his wife and brainwashing his daughter. While the wife and daughter are victims of the husband-turned-monster, he is also clearly portrayed as a victim of his own (even by Iranian standards) ultra-conservative family.
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family. Since the daughter has been given Iranian citizenship (without the mother's consent), the mother can't even try to take her back to America without risking the death penalty. Eventually, they manage to flee the country and return home to the USA.
*** Note that the above is VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory. The real incident is much more complex. Check The Other Wiki for details.
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** Also in Livy, Lucretia [[DrivenToSuicide did this]] ''[[DrivenToSuicide to herself]]'' when she was raped by the son of King Tarquin; this supposedly set off the revolution against the monarchy and the establishment of the Roman Republic.
*** This also happens in Shakespeare's version (a lengthy poem) ''The Rape of Lucrece.''

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** Also in Livy, Lucretia [[DrivenToSuicide did this]] ''[[DrivenToSuicide to herself]]'' when she was raped by the son of King Tarquin; this supposedly set off the revolution against the monarchy and the establishment of the Roman Republic.
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Republic. This also happens in Shakespeare's version (a lengthy poem) ''The Rape of Lucrece.''



* In GabrielGarciaMarquez's lesser-known novel ''Literature/ChronicleOfADeathForetold,'' Angela Vicario's husband turns her away and her mother beats her when they realize that [[DefiledForever she isn't a virgin.]] The "Death" mentioned in the title is that of Angela's alleged lover, whom her family murders in order to restore their lost honor.

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* In GabrielGarciaMarquez's Creator/GabrielGarciaMarquez's lesser-known novel ''Literature/ChronicleOfADeathForetold,'' Angela Vicario's husband turns her away and her mother beats her when they realize that [[DefiledForever she isn't a virgin.]] The "Death" mentioned in the title is that of Angela's alleged lover, whom her family murders in order to restore their lost honor.



* Basically the whole plot of the ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' season two episode "Honor." A woman is brutally killed, and it turns out it was related to her family's disapproval of her boyfriend. Her mother finally steps up and admits what she saw and...well, you try getting those final images out of your head.
** Said images being her corpse in the bedroom of her home, her husband having slashed her throat and fled back to Afghanistan before the police could catch him, with his characterization of the episode making it clear that he won't lose a moment of sleep over having murdered his supposed love and his own child.

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* Basically the whole plot of the ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' season two episode "Honor." A woman is brutally killed, and it turns out it was related to her family's disapproval of her boyfriend. Her mother finally steps up and admits what she saw and...well, you try getting those final images out of your head.
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head. Her corpse is found in the bedroom of her home, her husband having slashed her throat and fled back to Afghanistan before the police could catch him, with his characterization of the episode making it clear that he won't lose a moment of sleep over having murdered his supposed love and his own child.



** The original manuscript only had him killing her; in keeping with Shakespearean stage directions, it gave no specifics about how the act should be carried out, making this highly subjective.
*** Plus, the way it was presented and her actions throughout the movie strongly implied that Lavinia agreed to him him killing her and didn't want to live with her shame. Plus, it wasn't just Titus's revenge. Lavinia pleaded with Tamora to kill her rather than let her son's rape her, but Tamora orders her sons to ravish her anyway. So Lavinia being killed in front of Tamora and the Emperor (thus requiring Titus to explain himself) fits her revenge as well.
** How about his son, Mutius? When Bassianus runs off with Lavinia after Titus promised her hand to Saturninus, the new emperor, the rest of his sons help them. When Mutius stands in his way, Titus cuts him down without a second thought.
** ''TheDesertSong'' has a variant. The MightyWhitey hero is left to die in the desert and loses his leadership of his band of outlaws due to refusing to fight an opponent.

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** The original manuscript only had him killing her; in keeping with Shakespearean stage directions, it gave no specifics about how the act should be carried out, making this highly subjective.
*** Plus, the way it was presented and her actions throughout the movie strongly implied that Lavinia agreed to him him killing her and didn't want to live with her shame. Plus, it wasn't just Titus's revenge. Lavinia pleaded with Tamora to kill her rather than let her son's rape her, but Tamora orders her sons to ravish her anyway. So Lavinia being killed in front of Tamora and the Emperor (thus requiring Titus to explain himself) fits her revenge as well.
** How about his son, Mutius? When Bassianus runs off with Lavinia after Titus promised her hand to Saturninus, the new emperor, the rest of his sons help them. When Mutius stands in his way, Titus cuts him down without a second thought.
** ''TheDesertSong''
* ''Theatre/TheDesertSong'' has a variant. The MightyWhitey hero is left to die in the desert and loses his leadership of his band of outlaws due to refusing to fight an opponent.



* Melusine (an anthropomorphic dolphin) in ''{{Concession}}'' was murdered by her brother-in-law for getting impregnated by a land-dweller. Prompting the father to destroy an entire city and her to come back as an insane ghost.

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* Melusine (an anthropomorphic dolphin) in ''{{Concession}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Concession}}'' was murdered by her brother-in-law for getting impregnated by a land-dweller. Prompting the father to destroy an entire city and her to come back as an insane ghost.
13th Feb '16 11:40:41 AM Innocent_Bystander
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** "Literature/MatteoFalcone" by Prosper Mérimée has exactly the same plot.

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** "Literature/MatteoFalcone" ''Literature/MatteoFalcone'' by Prosper Mérimée has exactly the same plot.
13th Feb '16 11:37:22 AM Innocent_Bystander
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** "Literature/MatteoFalcone" by Prosper Mérimée has exactly the same plot.
28th Nov '15 4:51:11 PM nanshe
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* Child 233, "Andrew Lammie", also called "Mill O'Tifty" is a Scottish ballad about a young woman named Annie, who is the daughter of the miller at Tifty. She falls in love with the titular Lammie, who is a trumpeter for the Lord of Fyvie. Lord Fyvie finds Annie attractive, and tells her parents he wants to marry her, and they agree. When Annie says that she's in love with Andrew Lammie, her brother and father kill her.

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* Child ChildBallad 65, "Lady Maisry" is a Border ballad about a young Scottish girl who falls in love with an Englishman and becomes pregnant by him after refusing to marry any of the Scottish lords her family approved of. In response, her family has her burned alive.
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233, "Andrew Lammie", also called "Mill O'Tifty" is a Scottish ballad about a young woman named Annie, who is the daughter of the miller at Tifty. She falls in love with the titular Lammie, who is a trumpeter for the Lord of Fyvie. Lord Fyvie finds Annie attractive, and tells her parents he wants to marry her, and they agree. When Annie says that she's in love with Andrew Lammie, her brother and father kill her.
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