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2nd Oct '17 12:32:47 AM GlassCatOwl
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A variant of this exists in Regency and Victorian literature, where rather than being in conflict the same gender characters are very close, and one of them marries/pursues the other's opposite gender relative exists as a way to solidify the relationship. This becomes even more suggestive when the physical resemblance between the relative and the friend is brought up as a positive.
28th Jul '17 1:23:46 PM Jake
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* ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' has a RareFemaleExample with Elphaba and Glinda. They're caught in a LoveTriangle with Fiyero, but the story is more about the relationship between the two women than it's about Elphaba/Fiyero or Glinda/Fiyero.

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* ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' has a RareFemaleExample with Elphaba and Glinda. They're caught in a LoveTriangle with Fiyero, but the story is more about the relationship between the two women than it's about Elphaba/Fiyero or Glinda/Fiyero. They also have rather a lot of [[LesYay not very heterosexual subtext.]]
12th Jun '17 4:11:15 PM StFan
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* Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} and Comicbook/{{Cyclops}}. So much. Occasionally they have honest to downright heartwarming moments, but it's rare. Even when they are in danger, or have more pressing things to fight about, [[spoiler: and even though she's dead, you know, [[DeathIsCheap for now]]]], it's always about Jean. Right down to the morning Logan finds Scott in bed with Emma Frost. [[spoiler: Remember, Jean's already dead at this point. Her *memory* is reason enough for Logan to take a personal interest in Scott's... personal interests.]]
* ''ComicBook/DeCapeEtDeCrocs'': Two subversions in one: The two men fighting aren't the girl's romantic rivals (Armand and [[OnlyKnownByHisNickname the]] [[Literature/CyranoDeBergerac Swordmaster]] are the rivals for Selene, but Don Lope is intervening in Armand's (who's unaware he even ''has'' a rival in love) place: as the better fighter, he knows he can beat the Swordmaster), and as the two are arguing Selene manifests a personality other than DumbBlonde for the first time, claiming she's more than just a prize to be fought over. The two men, embarassed, go their separate ways. And when Armand learns about it, he takes everything the wrong way, from the idea of his having a rival to Lope being a better fighter. He goes to Selene without being seen to confess his love, and she confesses back... [[AllLoveIsUnrequited thinking he's the Swordmaster.]] It takes learning his friends are in danger to pull Armand out of his suicidal funk.

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* Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} and Comicbook/{{Cyclops}}.ComicBook/{{Cyclops}}. So much. Occasionally they have honest to downright heartwarming moments, but it's rare. Even when they are in danger, or have more pressing things to fight about, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and even though she's dead, you know, [[DeathIsCheap for now]]]], it's always about Jean. Right down to the morning Logan finds Scott in bed with Emma Frost. [[spoiler: Remember, [[spoiler:Remember, Jean's already dead at this point. Her *memory* ''memory'' is reason enough for Logan to take a personal interest in Scott's... personal interests.]]
* ''ComicBook/DeCapeEtDeCrocs'': Two subversions in one: The two men fighting aren't the girl's romantic rivals (Armand and [[OnlyKnownByHisNickname the]] [[Literature/CyranoDeBergerac Swordmaster]] are the rivals for Selene, but Don Lope is intervening in Armand's (who's [who's unaware he even ''has'' a rival in love) love] place: as the better fighter, he knows he can beat the Swordmaster), and as the two are arguing Selene manifests a personality other than DumbBlonde for the first time, claiming she's more than just a prize to be fought over. The two men, embarassed, embarrassed, go their separate ways. And when Armand learns about it, he takes everything the wrong way, from the idea of his having a rival to Lope being a better fighter. He goes to Selene without being seen to confess his love, and she confesses back... [[AllLoveIsUnrequited thinking he's the Swordmaster.]] It takes learning his friends are in danger to pull Armand out of his suicidal funk.

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* The opening trap in ''Film/{{Saw 3D}}'' involves two men, Brad and Ryan, and their shared girlfriend Dina, the two having never realized until now that she was [[YourCheatingHeart cheating on each of them with the other]]. Only two of them can escape the trap with their lives. As Brad and Ryan try to kill each other, while Dina roots for whoever is winning in their life-and-death struggle, they slowly realize that she is the entire reason why they're in their predicament in the first place, and that their lives and friendship are worth more than their respective romances with Dina. They make up and [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe turn the giant saw against her]].

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* The opening trap in ''Film/{{Saw 3D}}'' ''Film/Saw3D'' involves two men, Brad and Ryan, and their shared girlfriend Dina, the two having never realized until now that she was [[YourCheatingHeart cheating on each of them with the other]]. Only two of them can escape the trap with their lives. As Brad and Ryan try to kill each other, while Dina roots for whoever is winning in their life-and-death struggle, they slowly realize that she is the entire reason why they're in their predicament in the first place, and that their lives and friendship are worth more than their respective romances with Dina. They make up and [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe turn the giant saw against her]].

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* ''{{Theatre/Wicked}}'' has a RareFemaleExample with Elphaba and Glinda. They're caught in a LoveTriangle with Fiyero, but the story is more about the relationship between the two women than it's about Elphaba/Fiyero or Glinda/Fiyero.

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* ''{{Theatre/Wicked}}'' ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' has a RareFemaleExample with Elphaba and Glinda. They're caught in a LoveTriangle with Fiyero, but the story is more about the relationship between the two women than it's about Elphaba/Fiyero or Glinda/Fiyero.



-->'''Demetrius:''' Relent sweet Hermia, and Lysander, yield thy crazed title to my certain right.
-->'''Lysander:''' You have her father's love, Demetrius. Let me have Hermia's. Do you marry him!
-->'''Egeus:''' Scornful Lysander, true, he hath my Love; and what is mine, my love shall render him. And she is mine, and all my right of her, I do estate unto Demetrius.

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-->'''Demetrius:''' Relent sweet Hermia, and Lysander, yield thy crazed title to my certain right.
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right.\\
'''Lysander:'''
You have her father's love, Demetrius. Let me have Hermia's. Do you marry him!
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him!\\
'''Egeus:'''
Scornful Lysander, true, he hath my Love; and what is mine, my love shall render him. And she is mine, and all my right of her, I do estate unto Demetrius.




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* In the first ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI'' game, Riku and Sora are supposedly in a love triangle with Kairi, but Kairi herself actually has very little screen time, spending the vast majority of the game off-screen and in a coma. The real point of the story is the boys' relationship with each other -- specifically, the way aimless competition with each other turns a once-healthy friendship into something bitter, broken, and increasingly violent. When you get right down to it, Kairi is just one thing among many for them to fight over.
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* In season two of ''WebVideo/TheGuild'', Zaboo gets into a CockFight with Cyd's stuntman love interest. Cyd is initially flattered by the attention (although she feels guilty about it), but as the fight goes on, Zaboo and the stuntman recognize each other as [[WorthyOpponent Worthy Opponents]] and the fight becomes much more about Zaboo fanboying over the stuntman and the two of them having a good time, much to Cyd's annoyance. It ends when they both decide she's not really worth fighting over anyway.

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* In the first ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI'' game, Riku and Sora are supposedly in a love triangle with Kairi, but Kairi herself actually has very little screen time, spending the vast majority of the game off-screen and in a coma. The real point of the story is the boys' relationship with each other -- specifically, the way aimless competition with each other turns a once-healthy friendship into something bitter, broken, and increasingly violent. When you get right down to it, Kairi is just one thing among many for them to fight over.

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* In season two of ''WebVideo/TheGuild'', Zaboo gets into a CockFight with Cyd's stuntman love interest. Cyd is initially flattered by the attention (although she feels guilty about it), but as the fight goes on, Zaboo and the stuntman recognize each other as [[WorthyOpponent Worthy Opponents]] {{Worthy Opponent}}s and the fight becomes much more about Zaboo fanboying over the stuntman and the two of them having a good time, much to Cyd's annoyance. It ends when they both decide she's not really worth fighting over anyway. \n\n[[AC:VideoGames]]\n* In the first ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI'' game, Riku and Sora are supposedly in a love triangle with Kairi, but Kairi herself actually has very little screen time, spending the vast majority of the game off-screen and in a coma. The real point of the story is the boys' relationship with each other -- specifically, the way aimless competition with each other turns a once-healthy friendship into something bitter, broken, and increasingly violent. When you get right down to it, Kairi is just one thing among many for them to fight over.
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21st Apr '17 12:11:23 PM Gowan
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* In ''Literature/TheGoblinEmperor'' this is the expected thing to do. Eshevis Tethimar pesters Maia about his wish to marry Maia's sister Vedero. Maia [[spoiler: asks Vedero whether she wants to marry, and when she says she doesn't, he decides to respect that.]] Vedero herself tells Maia that marrying her off for politics would be the sensible thing to do. Later on, Maia himself proposes marriage to a woman in order to gain the support of her male relatives. (And it is made very clear that the marriage proposal is actually an order, as her family wouldn't let her refuse it.)
1st Mar '17 4:03:33 PM eroock
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* Played with in ''Film/TheCourtJester'' when King Roderick prepares an ArrangedMarriage between Princess Gwendoline and Sir Griswold, over the princess' strong objections:
-->'''Roderick''': If it pleases me, you shall marry Griswold!\\
'''Gwendoline''': If it pleases you so much, ''you'' marry Griswold.
29th Nov '16 11:49:19 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the traditional ArrangedMarriage custom is portrayed as an emotional and social affair between the groom and the father, the bride hardly being relevant to the process. And thus the plot is setting up for a [[ChildMarriageVeto massive backfire]].
* ''SweeneyTodd'' is playing the DestructiveRomance version of this trope with Judge Turpin. Mutual bonding in the scenes with the "Pretty women" song, and on the surface helping with the plan to force Todd's daughter to marry Turpin. However, the one Todd plan to sacrifice is not his daughter, but secretly Turpin instead.




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* The opening trap in ''Film/{{Saw 3D}}'' involves two men, Brad and Ryan, and their shared girlfriend Dina, the two having never realized until now that she was [[YourCheatingHeart cheating on each of them with the other]]. Only two of them can escape the trap with their lives. As Brad and Ryan try to kill each other, while Dina roots for whoever is winning in their life-and-death struggle, they slowly realize that she is the entire reason why they're in their predicament in the first place, and that their lives and friendship are worth more than their respective romances with Dina. They make up and [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe turn the giant saw against her]].



* In ''AMidsummerNightsDream'', Hermia's father is trying to force her to marry Demetrius, leading to this exchange with Lysander, the man she really loves:

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* In ''Theatre/FiddlerOnTheRoof'', the traditional ArrangedMarriage custom is portrayed as an emotional and social affair between the groom and the father, the bride hardly being relevant to the process. And thus the plot is setting up for a [[ChildMarriageVeto massive backfire]].
* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'' is playing the DestructiveRomance version of this trope with Judge Turpin. Mutual bonding in the scenes with the "Pretty women" song, and on the surface helping with the plan to force Todd's daughter to marry Turpin. However, the one Todd plan to sacrifice is not his daughter, but secretly Turpin instead.
11th Nov '16 7:19:27 PM Historian1912
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** Come to think of it, this trope shows up a lot in Literature/TheBible (the above being just one instance). Mainly because the women of that time and place (and the times and places the books were written, translated, and compiled) [[ValuesDissonance were seen primarily as]] [[BabyFactory passive breeding chattel]].
3rd Aug '16 6:10:43 PM StarryEyed
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* In season two of ''WebVideo/TheGuild'', Zaboo gets into a CockFight with Cyd's stuntman love interest. Cyd is initially flattered by the attention (although she feels guilty about it), but as the fight goes on, Zaboo and the stuntman recognize each other as WorthyOpponents and the fight becomes much more about Zaboo fanboying over the stuntman and the two of them having a good time, much to Cyd's annoyance. It ends when they both decide she's not really worth fighting over anyway.

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* In season two of ''WebVideo/TheGuild'', Zaboo gets into a CockFight with Cyd's stuntman love interest. Cyd is initially flattered by the attention (although she feels guilty about it), but as the fight goes on, Zaboo and the stuntman recognize each other as WorthyOpponents [[WorthyOpponent Worthy Opponents]] and the fight becomes much more about Zaboo fanboying over the stuntman and the two of them having a good time, much to Cyd's annoyance. It ends when they both decide she's not really worth fighting over anyway.
3rd Aug '16 6:10:09 PM StarryEyed
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*In season two of ''WebVideo/TheGuild'', Zaboo gets into a CockFight with Cyd's stuntman love interest. Cyd is initially flattered by the attention (although she feels guilty about it), but as the fight goes on, Zaboo and the stuntman recognize each other as WorthyOpponents and the fight becomes much more about Zaboo fanboying over the stuntman and the two of them having a good time, much to Cyd's annoyance. It ends when they both decide she's not really worth fighting over anyway.
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* ''ComicBook/DeCapeEtDeCrocs'': Two subversions in one: The two men fighting aren't the girl's romantic rivals (Armand and [[OnlyKnownByHisNickname the]] [[Literature/CyranoDeBergerac Swordmaster]] are the rivals for Selene, but Don Lope is intervening in Armand's (who's unaware he even ''has'' a rival in love) place: as the better fighter, he knows he can beat the Swordmaster), and as the two are arguing Selene manifests a personality other than DumbBlonde for the first time, claiming she's more than just a prize to be fought over. The two men, embarassed, go their separate ways. And when Armand learns about it, he takes everything the wrong way, from the idea of his having a rival to Lope being a better fighter. He goes to Selene without being seen to confess his love, and she confesses back... [[AllLoveIsUnrequited thinking he's the Swordmaster.]] It takes learning his friends are in danger to pull Armand out of his suicidal funk.
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