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24th Sep '17 9:01:12 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* The start of UsefulNotes/WorldWarI is probably the most {{egregious}} example. All sides were confident that their soldiers would come home victoriously within months - as we all know, nothing of the kind happened, and the war lasted four ''years''.
** The Central Powers' reasoning for an ''Aufmarsch II West''-offensive was not as moronic as it sounds if one limits oneself to just their knowledge and logic - bar the bits about food-consumption, minimum troop numbers required for success, and just general ''odds of success''. The German General Staff consistently favoured [[WhatAnIdiot courses of action with the best possible outcomes, rather than those with the best chances of success]] - in their minds a plan in which Germany was sure to gain a slight strategic advantage (e.g. Aufmarsch II West Defensive, Aufmarsch I/II Ost Defensive) was inferior to a plan in which Germany had a slight chance of gaining a huge strategic advantage (Aufmarsch I/II West-offensive). The fact Italy was originally supposed to attack France at the same time, [[MortonsFork thus forcing the French to choose which one they'd allow free reign while trying to stop the other]], thus actually ''having a good chance to succeed'' had Italy not decided to sit it out.

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* The start of UsefulNotes/WorldWarI is probably the most {{egregious}} example. All sides were confident that their soldiers would come home victoriously within months - -- as we all know, nothing of the kind happened, and the war lasted four gruelling, blood-soaked ''years''.
** The Central Powers' reasoning for an ''Aufmarsch II West''-offensive was not as moronic as it sounds if one limits oneself to just their knowledge and logic - -- bar the bits about food-consumption, minimum troop numbers required for success, and just general ''odds of success''. The German General Staff consistently favoured [[WhatAnIdiot courses of action with the best possible outcomes, rather than those with the best chances of success]] - -- in their minds a plan in which Germany was sure to gain a slight strategic advantage (e.g. Aufmarsch II West Defensive, Aufmarsch I/II Ost Defensive) was inferior to a plan in which Germany had a slight chance of gaining a huge strategic advantage (Aufmarsch I/II West-offensive). The fact Italy was originally supposed to attack France at the same time, [[MortonsFork thus forcing the French to choose which one they'd allow free reign while trying to stop the other]], thus actually ''having a good chance to succeed'' had Italy not decided to sit it out.
18th Jul '17 4:14:46 AM AgProv
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*** Operation Market Garden had much more complex reasons for being initiated, as well. Eisenhower felt that he ''had'' to launch the operation to appease ''his'' superiors (the civilian politicians who wanted the war over as quickly as possible). He felt that a more measured approach, steadily winning ground from the Germans, would have been better, but he instead committed most of his forces to the operation in an attempt to secure a route straight to Berlin. In fairness, had the operation succeeded, the war ''would'' have been over by Christmas of 1944, possibly long before. The failure of the operation and the sheer amount of resources committed to it, which then tied up ''more'' resources in an attempt to save the men who were cut off from Allied aid, meant that the war would drag on until May 1945.

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*** Operation Market Garden had much more complex reasons for being initiated, as well. Eisenhower felt that he ''had'' to launch the operation to appease ''his'' superiors (the civilian politicians who wanted the war over as quickly as possible). [[note]]Eisenhower was also aware of the need to appease the British, who were increassingly offended at being relegated to a subordinate place in what was fast becoming an American-led war. Giving his troublesome subordinate Usefulnotes/BernardLawMontgomery a major role that flattered his ego, kept him occupied, and well away from George Patton, was also a consideration.[[/note]] He felt that a more measured approach, steadily winning ground from the Germans, would have been better, but he instead committed most of his forces to the operation in an attempt to secure a route straight to Berlin. In fairness, had the operation succeeded, the war ''would'' have been over by Christmas of 1944, possibly long before. The failure of the operation and the sheer amount of resources committed to it, which then tied up ''more'' resources in an attempt to save the men who were cut off from Allied aid, meant that the war would drag on until May 1945.
22nd Jun '17 11:10:11 AM JackG
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* Discussed in Australian film ''The Lighthorsemen'' (1987). When a soldier snaps at the NewMeat, "What do ''you'' know about war?", the man snarks back that at least he didn't think it would be over by Christmas.

21st Jun '17 11:53:10 PM LtFedora
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10th Jun '17 3:48:33 AM EDP
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** The Central Powers' reasoning for an ''Aufmarsch II West''-offensive was not as moronic as it sounds if one limits oneself to just their knowledge and logic - bar the bits about food-consumption, minimum troop numbers required for success, and just general ''odds of success''. The German General Staff consistently favoured [[WhatAnIdiot courses of action with the best possible outcomes, rather than those with the best chances of success]] - in their minds a plan in which Germany was sure to gain a slight strategic advantage (e.g. Aufmarsch II West Defensive, Aufmarsch I/II Ost Defensive) was inferior to a plan in which Germany had a slight chance of gaining a huge strategic advantage (Aufmarsch I/II West-offensive).

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** The Central Powers' reasoning for an ''Aufmarsch II West''-offensive was not as moronic as it sounds if one limits oneself to just their knowledge and logic - bar the bits about food-consumption, minimum troop numbers required for success, and just general ''odds of success''. The German General Staff consistently favoured [[WhatAnIdiot courses of action with the best possible outcomes, rather than those with the best chances of success]] - in their minds a plan in which Germany was sure to gain a slight strategic advantage (e.g. Aufmarsch II West Defensive, Aufmarsch I/II Ost Defensive) was inferior to a plan in which Germany had a slight chance of gaining a huge strategic advantage (Aufmarsch I/II West-offensive). The fact Italy was originally supposed to attack France at the same time, [[MortonsFork thus forcing the French to choose which one they'd allow free reign while trying to stop the other]], thus actually ''having a good chance to succeed'' had Italy not decided to sit it out.
10th May '17 12:17:44 PM LtFedora
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Tales from the Public Domain," Homer starts the Joan of Arc story by saying the Hundred Years War was originally called "Operation Speedy Resolution."
18th Apr '17 5:57:24 PM nombretomado
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* ''Studio60OnTheSunsetStrip'': during a two parter where a cast member's brother is being held hostage in Afghanistan, we see a FlashBack, during which the President of the network (who was only a VP then) opines that the war will be over in a month.

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* ''Studio60OnTheSunsetStrip'': ''Series/Studio60OnTheSunsetStrip'': during a two parter where a cast member's brother is being held hostage in Afghanistan, we see a FlashBack, during which the President of the network (who was only a VP then) opines that the war will be over in a month.
20th Mar '17 10:31:45 AM ChronoLegion
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* As revealed by backstory fluff, the [[TheEmpire Taiidan Empire]] from ''Videogame/{{Homeworld}}'' attacked Kharak in the belief that a short victorious war against the surviving Hiigarans, ancestral enemy of the empire, would have quelled the internal opposition by both finishing the job with their most hated enemy in history and showing the might of their all-powerful emperor. Not only the [[ApocalypseHow destruction of all life forms of Kharak]] triggered the revolution and civil war (as the people realized their ancestral Hiigaran enemies had ''forgotten'' the treaty forbidding them from using hyperspace technology ever again that they had broken), but some Kushan, the descendants of the Hiigarans, had survived, and would cause the collapse of the Taiidan Empire by killing the emperor in battle.

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* As revealed by backstory fluff, the [[TheEmpire Taiidan Empire]] from ''Videogame/{{Homeworld}}'' attacked Kharak in the belief that a short victorious war against the surviving Hiigarans, ancestral enemy of the empire, would have quelled the internal opposition by both finishing the job with their most hated enemy in history and showing the might of their all-powerful emperor. Not only the [[ApocalypseHow destruction of all life forms of Kharak]] triggered the revolution and civil war (as the people realized their ancestral Hiigaran enemies had ''forgotten'' the treaty forbidding them from using hyperspace technology ever again that they had broken), but some Kushan, the descendants of the Hiigarans, had survived, and would cause the collapse of the Taiidan Empire by killing the emperor in battle. On a smaller scale, the fleet that laid waste to Kharak met with much more opposition than expected and was forced to withdraw before destroying the sleeper pods in orbit. The Kushan mothership ended up catching up to the damaged fleet and obliterated it in retaliation for Kharak.
20th Mar '17 10:27:30 AM ChronoLegion
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* Creator/AndreyLivadny's ''[[Literature/TheHistoryOfTheGalaxy Dabog]]'' describes the start of what would become known as the First Galactic War (to be fair, though, the scale of the war is far from "galactic", being limited to a few dozen systems and involving only humans). Earth Alliance President John Winston Hammer decides to [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression send a powerful strike fleet to perform a preemptive strike]] on Dabog, one of the more prosperous of the colonies, in order to show all the colony worlds that Earth is the center of human space. Hammer's goal is to force the colonists to accept the millions (if not billions) of people that need to be resettled in order to relieve the overpopulated Earth. At this point, the colonists don't even know about Earth Alliance (they're all [[LostColony Lost Colonies]], who haven't yet regained contact with their homeworld). While the fleet is on the way, the troops boast about how they'll beat those "stinking" colonists silly for daring to hog their lands, while Earth is an overpopulated hellhole. The EA admiral is also confident that there's nothing the colonists can do against such an overwhelming force. The fleet arrives in Dabog orbit and "announces" itself by nuking two large cities on opposite sides and landing troops. Unfortunately for them, the Dabogans had to reinvent certain pieces of technology to handle the planet's harsh climate and large dinosaur-like predators. This includes developing {{Walking Tank}}s with superior mobility that turn out to far outclass the more traditional vehicles used by EA troops. After being forced off the planet by "a bunch of farmers", the furious admiral orders the planet sterilized with massed nuclear bombardment, hoping that the other colonies will see this as a valuable lesson. Instead the other colonies band together and form a [[LaResistance unified force]] that ends up resisting the EA juggernaut for nearly 5 decades and eventually takes the fight to Earth itself. On the one hand, Earth ends up being no longer the dominant force in human space, being replaced by the [[TheFederation Confederacy of Suns]], based in the colonies, on the other, Hammer's initial goal of reducing Earth's population ends up being reached, just not the way he intended. The massive casualties on both sides and the steady flow of people fleeing the technological destruction results in most of Earth's population either dying or leaving. Centuries later, [[EarthThatUsedToBeBetter Earth is populated by a few hundred million people with most of its cities are abandoned and overgrown]].

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* Creator/AndreyLivadny's ''[[Literature/TheHistoryOfTheGalaxy Dabog]]'' describes the start of what would become known as the First Galactic War (to be fair, though, the scale of the war is far from "galactic", being limited to a few dozen systems and involving only humans). Earth Alliance President John Winston Hammer decides to [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression send a powerful strike fleet to perform a preemptive strike]] on Dabog, one of the more prosperous of the colonies, in order to show all the colony worlds that Earth is the center of human space. Hammer's goal is to force the colonists to accept the millions (if not billions) of people that need to be resettled in order to relieve the overpopulated Earth. At this point, the colonists don't even know about Earth Alliance (they're all [[LostColony Lost Colonies]], who haven't yet regained contact with their homeworld). While the fleet is on the way, the troops boast about how they'll beat those "stinking" colonists silly for daring to hog their lands, while Earth is an overpopulated hellhole. The EA admiral is also confident that there's nothing the colonists can do against such an overwhelming force. The fleet arrives in Dabog orbit and "announces" itself by nuking two large cities on opposite sides and landing troops. Unfortunately for them, the Dabogans had to reinvent certain pieces of technology to handle the planet's harsh climate and large dinosaur-like predators. This includes developing {{Walking Tank}}s with superior mobility that turn out to far outclass the more traditional vehicles used by EA troops. After being forced off the planet by "a bunch of farmers", the furious admiral orders the planet sterilized with massed nuclear bombardment, hoping that the other colonies will see this as a valuable lesson. Instead the other colonies band together and form a [[LaResistance unified force]] that ends up resisting the EA juggernaut for nearly 5 decades and eventually takes the fight to Earth itself. On the one hand, Earth ends up being no longer the dominant force in human space, being replaced by the [[TheFederation Confederacy of Suns]], based in the colonies, on the other, Hammer's initial goal of reducing Earth's population ends up being reached, just not the way he intended. The massive casualties on both sides and the steady flow of people fleeing the technological destruction results in most of Earth's population either dying or leaving. Centuries later, [[EarthThatUsedToBeBetter Earth is populated by a few hundred million people with most of its cities are abandoned and overgrown]].
overgrown]]. Meanwhile, the name "Dabog" stands for defiance in the face of overwhelming odds, and the still-radioactive planet remains the silent monument to the fallen.
20th Mar '17 12:42:33 AM HiddenWindshield
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* In ''Webcomic/CrimsonDark'', at the beginning of the war, the [=CDF=] proudly proclaimed that it would be over in three weeks, because that's the time it takes to [[FasterThanLightTravel jump]] from Daranir space to the Cirin homeworld. It's been over a year since then.
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