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23rd May '17 6:26:12 AM Materioptikon
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* ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}} has the Mayor, who's both at a loss as to how to govern a society of robots who ''are'' dedicated to being civil, law-abiding citizens, and believes the act of the liberation of the robots via a concerted effort from honest politicians and {{honest corporate executive}}s working together for the greater good to be an exception, not the rule.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}} ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'' has the Mayor, who's both at a loss as to how to govern a society of robots who ''are'' dedicated to being civil, law-abiding citizens, and believes the act of the liberation of the robots via a concerted effort from honest politicians and {{honest corporate executive}}s working together for the greater good to be an exception, not the rule.
23rd May '17 6:25:09 AM Materioptikon
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* ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}} has the Mayor, who's both at a loss as to how to govern a society of robots who ''are'' dedicated to being civil, law-abiding citizens, and believes the act of the liberation of the robots via a concerted effort from honest politicians and {{honest corporate executive}}s working together for the greater good to be an exception, not the rule.
21st May '17 6:43:24 AM KillerClowns
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* Somewhat amusingly in hindsight, the theologian John Calvin had a similarly pessimistic view of humanity. His Doctrine of Total Depravity maintained that people have a natural, innate inclination to do evil of every sort. It's probable that Calvin's ideas had a significant influence on Hobbes; Hobbes also thought long and hard about theology, almost certainly read Calvin, and of course Calvinist ideas were "in the air" when Hobbes was writing (remember, the Parliamentary faction in the UsefulNotes/EnglishCivilWar had a leading Puritan--i.e. Calvinist--contingent). The key difference between ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' was that Calvin denied any possibility that this could be countered by mere human authority.

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* Somewhat amusingly in hindsight, the theologian John Calvin had a similarly pessimistic view of humanity. His Doctrine of Total Depravity maintained that people have a natural, innate inclination to do evil of every sort. It's probable that Calvin's ideas had a significant influence on Hobbes; Hobbes also thought long and hard about theology, almost certainly read Calvin, and of course Calvinist ideas were "in the air" when Hobbes was writing (remember, the Parliamentary faction in the UsefulNotes/EnglishCivilWar had a leading Puritan--i.e. Calvinist--contingent). The key difference between ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' Hobbes and Calvin was that Calvin denied any possibility that this could be countered by mere human authority.
26th Apr '17 1:38:15 PM WiseMan23753
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* Technically, almost every problem in the ''Anime/CrossAnge'' is solved with Hobbes' philosophy, by both (anti)-heroes and villains alike. The main warden heartlessly tortures her recruits [[MiseryBuildsCharacter to toughen them up as soldiers]]. The complicent majority of the human populace has to be shot at just to listen. The BigBad [[spoiler:personally admits he designed the Mana users to be submissive because the previous generation was too selfish and engulfed in war]].
31st Mar '17 11:20:22 PM DavidDelony
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* Edward Bernays, the founder of public relations and the nephew of UsefulNotes/SigmundFreud, believed that society had to be manipulated through propaganda for its own good to preserve democracy.
24th Feb '17 6:41:15 PM MugenKagemaru
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** And then ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' reveals he was neither the first, nor was he alone. According to Arnim Zola, the [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] incarnation of "''ComicBook/{{HYDRA}} was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom.''"

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** And then ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' reveals he was neither the first, nor was he alone. According to Arnim Zola, [[spoiler:Arnim Zola]], the [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] incarnation of "''ComicBook/{{HYDRA}} was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom.''"
24th Feb '17 6:40:38 PM MugenKagemaru
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** And then ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' reveals he was neither the first, nor was he alone. According to Arnim Zola, the [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] incarnation of "''ComicBook/{{HYDRA}} was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom.''"
17th Feb '17 7:43:55 AM Reflextion
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* HobbesWasRight: Invoked by Machine General Wheeler in ''Literature/{{Starchild}}'' when he explains (or diatribes) why men cannot be allowed to live in freedom in the reefs of space. Mankind is inherently evil, and only the great [[MasterComputer Planning Machine]] can be trusted to make them do the right thing.

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* HobbesWasRight: Invoked by Machine General Wheeler in ''Literature/{{Starchild}}'' when he explains (or diatribes) why men cannot be allowed to live in freedom in the reefs of space. Mankind is inherently evil, and only the great [[MasterComputer Planning Machine]] can be trusted to make them do the right thing.
26th Jan '17 10:27:11 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GamefThrones'': Like the medieval societies it is based on, Westeros is very prone to violent upheaval in the absence of strong, unified authority.

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* ''Series/GamefThrones'': ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Like the medieval societies it is based on, Westeros is very prone to violent upheaval in the absence of strong, unified authority.
26th Jan '17 10:26:45 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GamefThrones'': Like the medieval societies it is based on, Westeros is very prone to violent upheaval in the absence of strong, unified authority.
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