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22nd Jul '17 1:28:52 PM bikergeek66
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* The Susan B. Anthony US dollar coin was criticized by some because the engraver had made the subject look too attractive.
22nd Jul '17 1:15:26 PM bikergeek66
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* The Susan B. Anthony US dollar coin was criticized by some feminists because the engraver had made the subject look too attractive.

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* The Susan B. Anthony US dollar coin was criticized by some feminists because the engraver had made the subject look too attractive.
22nd Jul '17 1:13:45 PM bikergeek66
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* ''Film/{{Frida}}'': Salma Hayek portrayed artist [[https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2b/6b/e8/2b6be8d9e92b4e3343e7f966ff25e878.jpg Frida Kahlo]] and Alfred Molina played her husband, Diego Rivera. Somewhat subverted in that Frida Kahlo's well-known "unibrow" was part of Hayek's makeup, and Molina wore a fat suit to portray the overweight Rivera.


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* The Susan B. Anthony US dollar coin was criticized by some feminists because the engraver had made the subject look too attractive.
1st Jul '17 8:42:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/CleopatraVII: [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Kleopatra-VII.-Altes-Museum-Berlin1.jpg/452px-Kleopatra-VII.-Altes-Museum-Berlin1.jpg Cleopatra]] was subject to this even in her own day. The legend of her beauty comes partially from [[UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}} Octavian]]'s propaganda that Marc Antony had been bewitched by her. Over the years, Cleopatra is typically portrayed as each generation's version of their ideal beauty. She's sometimes even given a RaceLift, despite the fact that she was of Macedonian descent. However, portraits of her give her a noticeably large nose; there is even an oft-repeated famous quip about what a long nose Cleo had. Plutarch describes her as not particularly attractive, but with a beautiful voice and charming personality. Creator/{{Cicero}} also downplays her appearance, though he is a biased source.

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* UsefulNotes/CleopatraVII: [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Kleopatra-VII.-Altes-Museum-Berlin1.jpg/452px-Kleopatra-VII.-Altes-Museum-Berlin1.jpg Cleopatra]] was subject to this even in her own day. The legend of her beauty comes partially from [[UsefulNotes/{{Augustus}} Octavian]]'s propaganda that Marc Antony had been bewitched by her. Over the years, Cleopatra is typically portrayed as each generation's version of their ideal beauty. She's sometimes even given a RaceLift, despite the fact that she was of Macedonian descent. However, portraits of her give her a noticeably large nose; there is even an oft-repeated famous quip about what a long nose Cleo had. Plutarch describes her as not particularly attractive, but with a beautiful voice and charming personality. Creator/{{Cicero}} also downplays her appearance, though he is a biased source. If we go by her sculpture, she looked [[http://www.vocidicitta.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Ricostruzione-volto-di-Cleopatra.jpg something like this]]. In oher words, far from ugly, but definitely not the supermodel most media like to portray her as.
23rd Jun '17 12:51:09 PM JamesAustin
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* ''Series/{{Merlin}}'' has a lot of this trope, probably mostly because it's meant as a kids'/family series.
** Highly debatable. Since it can't be known if any of these characters even existed at all, we can't be sure what they might have looked like.
** The legendary Merlin was normally depicted as a shape-shifter with no true, stable form. He usually kept the frail old man's appearance while serving Arthur, but became a handsome youth to seduce maidens and at times isolated himself from humanity entirely by turning into a tree.

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* ''Series/{{Merlin}}'' has a lot follows ''The Tudors'' route of this trope, probably mostly because it's meant as a kids'/family series.
** Highly debatable. Since it can't be
having its male lead, well known if any of these characters even existed for having his middle-aged appereance as his common appereance, played by a young hottie. This case at all, we can't be sure what they might least can have looked like.
** The
the justification that the legendary Merlin was normally depicted as a shape-shifter with no true, stable form. He usually kept the frail old man's appearance while serving Arthur, but became a handsome youth to seduce maidens and at times isolated himself from humanity entirely by turning into a tree.



** There was a miniseries in 2005, in which he was played by [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051621/ Cameron Bancroft]], with Hollywood hair and PermaStubble. And [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0183158/ Erin Cottrell]] played Caroline, a woman raised to believe it was immodest to wear her hair in a way that didn't cover her ears, in sort of a case of Historical Coquettishness Upgrade. Even Jack the dog was better-looking than in the source material.
** In the books after the move to Silver Lake, Caroline Ingalls does specifically say that a lady doesn't show her ears.

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** There was a miniseries in 2005, in which he was played by [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051621/ Cameron Bancroft]], with Hollywood hair and PermaStubble. And [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0183158/ Erin Cottrell]] played Caroline, a woman raised to believe it was immodest to wear her hair in a way that didn't cover her ears, in sort of a case of Historical Coquettishness Upgrade. Even Jack the dog was better-looking than in the source material.
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ears (in the books after the move to Silver Lake, Caroline Ingalls does specifically say that a lady doesn't show her ears.ears), in sort of a case of Historical Coquettishness Upgrade. Even Jack the dog was better-looking than in the source material.



--->'''André Castelot:''' Louis XVIII even used to say that nothing in her [the Duchess] was pretty, but everything was charming. Now, I need to confess something. You know that ''La Caméra Explore le Temps'' strives to be as close as possible to historical truth; well, here we took some liberties with the truth. Françoise Christophe will play the Duchess of Berry; well, everything in her is pretty, and everything in her is charming.
* ''Series/{{Victoria}}'': Queen Victoria would have ''killed'' to be as lovely as Jenna Coleman - or Emily Blunt!

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--->'''André -->'''André Castelot:''' Louis XVIII even used to say that nothing in her [the Duchess] was pretty, but everything was charming. Now, I need to confess something. You know that ''La Caméra Explore le Temps'' strives to be as close as possible to historical truth; well, here we took some liberties with the truth. Françoise Christophe will play the Duchess of Berry; well, everything in her is pretty, and everything in her is charming.
* ''Series/{{Victoria}}'': Queen Victoria would have ''killed'' to be as lovely as Jenna Coleman - or Emily Blunt!Creator/JennaColeman.



** [[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Queen Elizabeth I]] used this to her advantage to make people think she was young, healthy and attractive even when she had smallpox scars, grew old and lost her hair and wore a wig.
--->'''[[Series/{{Blackadder}} Baldrick]]:''' Well, my cousin Bert Baldrick, Mr. Gainsborough's butler's dogsbody, he says that he's heard that all portraits look the same these days, since they are painted to a romantic ideal, rather than as a true depiction of the idiosyncratic facial qualities of the person in question.
** This trope didn't work out quite so well when Elizabeth's father UsefulNotes/HenryVIII was shopping for a fourth wife. The famous painter Holbein did a portrait of Anne, a minor Princess of Cleves, which made the most of what beauty she did possess... but as Henry discovered when they met in person, that wasn't much. Henry had his aide Cromwell beheaded for screwing the situation up so badly. They did marry, but by Anne's own account the marriage was never consummated and she eventually consented to his offer of an amicable divorce. Ironically, this was ''great'' for Anne -- outside of the lack of attraction, she and Henry got along really well as friends. She was allowed to remain in England for the rest of her (long) life, was good friends with both of her former stepdaughters, and Henry treated her like a sister, giving her expensive gifts and inviting her to all the events at court. AND she didn't get beheaded! Which shows how well she came ahead of the other wives. And cycling back to this page's trope, in the TV series 'Series/TheTudors' she is played by [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1510184/ Joss Stone]].

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** [[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Queen Elizabeth I]] used this to her advantage to make people think she was young, healthy and attractive even when she had smallpox scars, grew old and lost her hair and wore a wig.
--->'''[[Series/{{Blackadder}} Baldrick]]:'''
wig. As with many things, mocked in ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'':
--->'''Baldrick:'''
Well, my cousin Bert Baldrick, Mr. Gainsborough's butler's dogsbody, he says that he's heard that all portraits look the same these days, since they are painted to a romantic ideal, rather than as a true depiction of the idiosyncratic facial qualities of the person in question.
** This trope didn't work out quite so well when Elizabeth's father UsefulNotes/HenryVIII was shopping for a fourth wife. The famous painter Holbein did a portrait of Anne, a minor Princess of Cleves, which made the most of what beauty she did possess... but as Henry discovered when they met in person, that wasn't much. Henry had his aide Cromwell beheaded for screwing the situation up so badly. They did marry, but by Anne's own account the marriage was never consummated and she eventually consented to his offer of an amicable divorce. Ironically, this was ''great'' for Anne -- outside of the lack of attraction, she and Henry got along really well as friends. She was allowed to remain in England for the rest of her (long) life, was good friends with both of her former stepdaughters, and Henry treated her like a sister, giving her expensive gifts and inviting her to all the events at court. AND she didn't get beheaded! Which shows how well she came ahead of the other wives. wives and outlived them all. And cycling back to this page's trope, in the TV series 'Series/TheTudors' ''Series/TheTudors'' she is played by [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1510184/ [[https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjYyNDIwMzYzNl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzUzMDg2Mw@@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,666,1000_AL_.jpg Joss Stone]].
17th Jun '17 11:14:00 PM LegitimateIdiot
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* Similar to ''Anime/RoseOfVersailles'', every HistoricDomainCharacter in ''Manga/AnatoliaStory'' is completely ''gorgeous'', despite the story taking place in a time period not even in the Iron Age and having most of said characters be involved with military campaigns. Interestingly, the fact that so many people gush over how beautiful and flawless and soft Yuri's skin is (as one would expect from a teenage girl in modern times who hasn't done much hard labor) suggests that such qualities ''are'' considered rare enough that it's considered a major point of beauty for her.
* ''Anime/{{Classicaloid}}'' does this with composers. One of Pad-kun's conventions is to show a picture of the real life composer when their Mujik is first introduced, which does make for a jarring contrast for some of them (especially Liszt and Tchaikovsky, who are {{GenderFlip}}ped).

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* Similar to ''Anime/RoseOfVersailles'', every HistoricDomainCharacter HistoricalDomainCharacter in ''Manga/AnatoliaStory'' is completely ''gorgeous'', despite the story taking place in a time period not even in the Iron Age and having most of said characters be involved with military campaigns. Interestingly, the fact that so many people gush over how beautiful and flawless and soft Yuri's skin is (as one would expect from a teenage girl in modern times who hasn't done much hard labor) suggests that such qualities ''are'' considered rare enough that it's considered a major point of beauty for her.
* ''Anime/{{Classicaloid}}'' does this with composers. One of Pad-kun's conventions is to show a picture of the real life composer when their Mujik is first introduced, which does make for a jarring contrast for some of them (especially Liszt and Tchaikovsky, who are {{GenderFlip}}ped).{{gender flip}}ped).
17th Jun '17 11:13:07 PM LegitimateIdiot
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* ''Anime/{{Classicaloid}}'' does this with composers. One of Pad-kun's conventions is to show a picture of the real life composer when their Mujik is first introduced, which does make for a jarring contrast for some of them (especially the GenderFlip versions).

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* ''Anime/{{Classicaloid}}'' does this with composers. One of Pad-kun's conventions is to show a picture of the real life composer when their Mujik is first introduced, which does make for a jarring contrast for some of them (especially the GenderFlip versions).Liszt and Tchaikovsky, who are {{GenderFlip}}ped).
1st Jun '17 2:46:53 PM GlitteringFlowers
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** The miniseries ''Series/JesusOfNazareth'' by Franco Zeffirelli has the rather nice-looking Robert Powell as Jesus.

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** The miniseries ''Series/JesusOfNazareth'' by Franco Zeffirelli has the rather nice-looking Robert Powell as Jesus. According to Powell himself, he was casted with this trope in mind.
28th May '17 3:13:09 AM kouta
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** When Richard's remains were found and identified it was discovered that he did, in fact, have a very severe case of scoliosis and wasn't in the best of health when he was killed at the age of 32.

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** When Richard's remains were found and identified it was discovered that he did, in fact, have a very severe case of scoliosis and wasn't in the best of health when he was killed at the age of 32. Descriptions of him having deformities, while exaggerated, aren't entirely innacurate.
28th May '17 2:26:57 AM kouta
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** When Richard's remains were found and identified it was discovered that he did, in fact, have a very severe case of scoliosis and wasn't in the best of health when he was killed at the age of 32.
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