History Main / HijackedByJesus

3rd Dec '16 4:19:36 PM Vampireandthen
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*** Christmas is actually rather debatable. Early theologians reasoned that good men died on the die they were conceived. The earliest record was when someone said March 25 was the day Jesus was conceived, and added nine months. There are actually theories that Christmas was celebrated well before the Roman holiday of ''Dies Natalis Sol Invictus'', and the Romans created it to counter Christmas.
19th Nov '16 9:28:14 PM LB7979
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** The Roman winter solstice festival and the Celtic/Norse Yule were taken over by/merged with Christmas and Hanukkah.

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** The Roman winter solstice festival and the / Celtic/Norse Yule Yule, respectively the Pagan spring celebration Ostara, were taken over by/merged by / merged with respectively Christmas / Hanukkah, and Hanukkah.Easter[[note]]The Christmas tree, Easter bunny, and Easter eggs are all symbols stemming from the original Pagan festivals[[/note]].
7th Nov '16 3:15:57 PM Jhonny
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It should be noted that [[TruthInTelevision this has happened]] a number of times historically. As proselytizing sects spread into new regions, they often incorporate existing beliefs into their canon, in order to make the new religion more palatable to others. For example, the medieval story of the hermit Josaphat (not to be mistaken with the King Jehoshaphat of Judea, or the 17th-century martyr St. Josaphat) was a Christianized version of the life of Gautama Buddha (with "Bodhisattva" mutating into "Josaphat"). Often, polytheistic cultures "converted" to Christianity simply transferred the worship of individual gods to the ''saints'' that most resembled them (in some cases, the old pagan gods were remade ''into'' saints).

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It should be noted that [[TruthInTelevision this has happened]] a number of times historically. As proselytizing sects spread into new regions, they often incorporate existing beliefs into their canon, in order to make the new religion more palatable to others. For example, the medieval story of the hermit Josaphat (not to be mistaken with the King Jehoshaphat of Judea, or the 17th-century martyr St. Josaphat) was a Christianized version of the life of Gautama Buddha (with "Bodhisattva" mutating into "Josaphat"). Often, polytheistic cultures "converted" to Christianity simply transferred the worship of individual gods to the ''saints'' that most resembled them (in some cases, the old pagan gods were remade ''into'' saints).
saints). The Catholic church in particular got ''a lot'' of mileage out of this and seeing some procession for some saint in e.g. Latin America, it's not hard at all to imagine what the religious customs prior to Christianity may have looked like.
30th Oct '16 3:52:32 PM nombretomado
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* Although most of the gods being jerks was inherent in the premise, the universe of ''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' and ''XenaWarriorPrincess'' was strange about this depending on the situation, especially Ares, who tends to waver between being a {{Jerkass}} and being pure evil depending on the needs of the plot. Hades was usually treated as just a dark but very overworked and unappreciated ruler of the Underworld. Eventually, the producers of Xena seemed intent on making up for lost time; in the last two seasons, the prophet Eli was an exceedingly thinly disguised CrystalDragonJesus and Xena was put on a quest [[spoiler:to kill all the Pagan gods]].

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* Although most of the gods being jerks was inherent in the premise, the universe of ''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' and ''XenaWarriorPrincess'' ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' was strange about this depending on the situation, especially Ares, who tends to waver between being a {{Jerkass}} and being pure evil depending on the needs of the plot. Hades was usually treated as just a dark but very overworked and unappreciated ruler of the Underworld. Eventually, the producers of Xena seemed intent on making up for lost time; in the last two seasons, the prophet Eli was an exceedingly thinly disguised CrystalDragonJesus and Xena was put on a quest [[spoiler:to kill all the Pagan gods]].
22nd Sep '16 8:36:43 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' is based on films from the 1930s, which commonly reduced various foreign cultures into caricature. In the film, the complex and sophisticated religion of Hinduism is reduced to nice people worshiping Shiva and murderous Thuggees worshiping Kali. The Thuggees behave like stereotypical Satanic cultists. The real Thugs, those who practiced Thuggee, did worship Kali, but no more so than the Ku Klux Klan worshiped Jesus. While they did tend to ritually murder people, it was by strangulation via a yellow scarf, not ripping hearts out of someone's chest. It wasn't just the British who worked on eradicating them. And, incidentally, Kali herself is ''Shiva's wife''. Not the estranged kind, either.[[note]]Technically, Parvati is Shiva's wife, and Kali is the darker aspect of her, who awakens to strike down Evil when needed -- basically, Kali is ComicBook/{{the Incredible Hulk}} to Parvati's Bruce Banner. In Indy's defense, though, he does briefly note that the Thuggees are a heretical sect. To clarify it, Kali is a good goddess, but there is a demon ACTUALLY worshiped by the equivalent of Satanists named Kali. Note that there is ''no relation between the two entities''. The confusion exists because, English not having the level of vowel representation Indian languages do, the names of both the demon and the Goddess are written with the same spelling. For those interested, the approximate pronunciations are as follows: the Goddess's name is "Kah-lee", whereas the demon is "Kully". The proper transcriptions are Kālī and Kali.[[/note]]

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* ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' is based on films from the 1930s, which commonly reduced various foreign cultures into caricature. In the film, the complex and sophisticated religion of Hinduism is reduced to nice people worshiping Shiva and murderous Thuggees worshiping Kali. The Thuggees behave like stereotypical Satanic cultists. The real Thugs, those who practiced Thuggee, did worship Kali, but no more so than the Ku Klux Klan worshiped Jesus. While they did tend to ritually murder people, it was by strangulation via a yellow scarf, not ripping hearts out of someone's chest. It wasn't just the British who worked on eradicating them. And, incidentally, Kali herself is ''Shiva's wife''. Not the estranged kind, either.[[note]]Technically, Parvati is Shiva's wife, and Kali is the darker aspect of her, who awakens to strike down Evil when needed -- basically, Kali is ComicBook/{{the Incredible Hulk}} the ComicBook/IncredibleHulk to Parvati's Bruce Banner. In Indy's defense, though, he does briefly note that the Thuggees are a heretical sect. To clarify it, Kali is a good goddess, but there is a demon ACTUALLY worshiped by the equivalent of Satanists named Kali. Note that there is ''no relation between the two entities''. The confusion exists because, English not having the level of vowel representation Indian languages do, the names of both the demon and the Goddess are written with the same spelling. For those interested, the approximate pronunciations are as follows: the Goddess's name is "Kah-lee", whereas the demon is "Kully". The proper transcriptions are Kālī and Kali.[[/note]]
22nd Sep '16 8:36:02 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' is based on films from the 1930s, which commonly reduced various foreign cultures into caricature. In the film, the complex and sophisticated religion of Hinduism is reduced to nice people worshiping Shiva and murderous Thuggees worshiping Kali. The Thuggees behave like stereotypical Satanic cultists. The real Thugs, those who practiced Thuggee, did worship Kali, but no more so than the Ku Klux Klan worshiped Jesus. While they did tend to ritually murder people, it was by strangulation via a yellow scarf, not ripping hearts out of someone's chest. It wasn't just the British who worked on eradicating them. And, incidentally, Kali herself is ''Shiva's wife''. Not the estranged kind, either.[[note]]Technically, Parvati is Shiva's wife, and Kali is the darker aspect of her, who awakens to strike down Evil when needed. In Indy's defense, though, he does briefly note that the Thuggees are a heretical sect. To clarify it, Kali is a good goddess, but there is a demon ACTUALLY worshiped by the equivalent of Satanists named Kali. Note that there is ''no relation between the two entities''. The confusion exists because, English not having the level of vowel representation Indian languages do, the names of both the demon and the Goddess are written with the same spelling. For those interested, the approximate pronunciations are as follows: the Goddess's name is "Kah-lee", whereas the demon is "Kully". The proper transcriptions are Kālī and Kali.[[/note]]

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* ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' is based on films from the 1930s, which commonly reduced various foreign cultures into caricature. In the film, the complex and sophisticated religion of Hinduism is reduced to nice people worshiping Shiva and murderous Thuggees worshiping Kali. The Thuggees behave like stereotypical Satanic cultists. The real Thugs, those who practiced Thuggee, did worship Kali, but no more so than the Ku Klux Klan worshiped Jesus. While they did tend to ritually murder people, it was by strangulation via a yellow scarf, not ripping hearts out of someone's chest. It wasn't just the British who worked on eradicating them. And, incidentally, Kali herself is ''Shiva's wife''. Not the estranged kind, either.[[note]]Technically, Parvati is Shiva's wife, and Kali is the darker aspect of her, who awakens to strike down Evil when needed.needed -- basically, Kali is ComicBook/{{the Incredible Hulk}} to Parvati's Bruce Banner. In Indy's defense, though, he does briefly note that the Thuggees are a heretical sect. To clarify it, Kali is a good goddess, but there is a demon ACTUALLY worshiped by the equivalent of Satanists named Kali. Note that there is ''no relation between the two entities''. The confusion exists because, English not having the level of vowel representation Indian languages do, the names of both the demon and the Goddess are written with the same spelling. For those interested, the approximate pronunciations are as follows: the Goddess's name is "Kah-lee", whereas the demon is "Kully". The proper transcriptions are Kālī and Kali.[[/note]]
19th Sep '16 8:38:18 PM PaulA
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* In ''Wielding A Red Sword'', from Creator/PiersAnthony's ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, the Hindu protagonist equates {{Satan}} with Shiva... who is supposed to be a highly positive force of rebirth and renewal.
** Ironically, later books show that [[SatanIsGood Satan is indeed something of a positive force]].

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* In ''Wielding A Red Sword'', from Creator/PiersAnthony's ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, ''Literature/WieldingARedSword'' by Creator/PiersAnthony, the Hindu protagonist equates {{Satan}} with Shiva... who is supposed to be a highly positive force of rebirth and renewal.
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renewal. Ironically, later books in the series show that [[SatanIsGood Satan is indeed something of a positive force]].
25th Aug '16 11:14:49 AM Naram-Sin
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** Several religious technologies have Christian-themed names and icons such as "Sanctity" (golden chalice), "Redemption" (light coming down from heaven), "Atonement" (kneeling man with his hands together), "Illumination" (sunlight over an open book), Theocracy (rosary over an open book), and Faith (a [[InvokedTrope Medieval icon]]... ''of Jesus himself'').

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** Several religious technologies have Christian-themed names and icons such as "Sanctity" (golden chalice), "Redemption" (light coming down from heaven), "Atonement" (kneeling man with his hands together), "Illumination" (sunlight over an open book), Theocracy "Theocracy" (rosary over an open book), and Faith "Faith" (a [[InvokedTrope [[{{Pun}} Medieval icon]]... ''of Jesus himself'').
25th Aug '16 11:05:46 AM Naram-Sin
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* ''Videogame/AgeOfEmpiresII'': Just like most military units tend to look Western European, despite civilizations coming from all over Eurasia (and also America and Africa in the expansions), religion in the game is superficially Christian and in particular, [[ChristianityIsCatholic Catholic]]:
** The religious building is called a "Monastery" and the units it produces are "monks", even in Muslim and pre-Columbian American cultures. Building or clicking on one produces a Gregorian-like chant, and its icon is two hands placed together.
** Excluding the Americans, all monks wear priestly robes, have tonsure, and carry a crossier and a big, Western-style book clearly intended to be a Bible. They also make a Gregorian-like chant when they convert enemy units to your side.
** Several religious technologies have Christian-themed names and icons such as "Sanctity" (golden chalice), "Redemption" (light coming down from heaven), "Atonement" (kneeling man with his hands together), "Illumination" (sunlight over an open book), Theocracy (rosary over an open book), and Faith (a [[InvokedTrope Medieval icon]]... ''of Jesus himself'').
29th Jul '16 10:18:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' and its spin-offs suffer a little with this, since Hades is portrayed as a [[EverybodyHatesHades currently malevolent deity]], and the Underworld he governs has little to do with the Greek underworld (sans Cerberus, Elysium, and the rivers); it's instead a rather faithful manga version of [[TheDivineComedy Dante's Inferno]], which in turn was meant to represent the Christian hell. It is however mentioned that Hades used to have a friendly relationship with humanity, but lost his faith in humanity due to their constant sins, and disrespect towards the gods. His favor to Orpheus is mentioned in the series.

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* ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' and its spin-offs suffer a little with this, since Hades is portrayed as a [[EverybodyHatesHades currently malevolent deity]], and the Underworld he governs has little to do with the Greek underworld (sans Cerberus, Elysium, and the rivers); it's instead a rather faithful manga version of [[TheDivineComedy [[Literature/TheDivineComedy Dante's Inferno]], which in turn was meant to represent the Christian hell. It is however mentioned that Hades used to have a friendly relationship with humanity, but lost his faith in humanity due to their constant sins, and disrespect towards the gods. His favor to Orpheus is mentioned in the series.
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