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16th Nov '17 4:17:08 PM GeorgeT-SLC
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* Discussed in ''Series/{{Vikings}}''. The christian priest Athelstan is kidnapped from his church in Britain, and forced to live alongside the vikings. Although he stays loyal to his religion, he couldn't help but notice the similarities between the cruxificion of Jesus and the story of Odin hanging from Yggdrassil. He becomes troubled by those notions, and eventually accepts both religions. And even then he stays troubled, because a true christian may not worship any other god.

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* Discussed in ''Series/{{Vikings}}''. The christian Christian priest Athelstan is kidnapped from his church in Britain, and forced to live alongside the vikings. Although he stays loyal to his religion, he couldn't help but notice the similarities between the cruxificion of Jesus and the story of Odin hanging from Yggdrassil. He becomes troubled by those notions, and eventually accepts both religions. And even then he stays troubled, because a true christian Christian may not worship any other god.



*** Odin's self-sacrifice to gain knowledge (by hanging himself on the World Tree for nine days) bears a striking resemblance to the Crucifixion. However, there are no reported viking activities in the area of Israel at the time, and all reported versions of that myth are from ''after'' christianity became a thing in Europe, so it may also be a case of the vikings trying to hijak christian stories, instead of the other way. It may also be just a coincidence: deaths by hanging were a common punishment in real life, same as crucifixion, but the part of the god having his side torn by a pike seems too specific and suggests an influence in either way.

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*** Odin's self-sacrifice to gain knowledge (by hanging himself on the World Tree for nine days) bears a striking resemblance to the Crucifixion. However, there are no reported viking activities in the area of Israel at the time, and all reported versions of that myth are from ''after'' christianity Christianity became a thing in Europe, so it may also be a case of the vikings trying to hijak christian Christian stories, instead of the other way. It may also be just a coincidence: deaths by hanging were a common punishment in real life, same as crucifixion, but the part of the god having his side torn by a pike seems too specific and suggests an influence in either way.
13th Nov '17 1:50:01 AM tafelshrew
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* ''ComicBook/Hellboy'' sort of does this with Hecate - while in the Classical world she was a goddess of various things including witches, here, following in the footsteps of the early Christians, she's all witches all the time (also one vampire) and in Hellboy's world all witches are [[AlwaysChaoticEvil evil and servants of Hell.]] She's also very invested in tempting Hellboy to bring about the apocalypse. Later on, though, she self-defines as a more Lovecraftian amoral goddess who just wants to bring about the apocalypse because it's her nature to do so - less Satanic, but still far more malevolent than the (for lack of a better term) non-fictional Hecate.
29th Oct '17 2:43:35 PM nombretomado
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* ''ClassOfTheTitans'' can both avert and succumb to this. While Hades isn't presented as completely evil, his realm still looks like hell. Also, he seems a bit of a... girlish man. It's the voice. The other Gods may have their problems, they do some nasty things to mortals, but they're all still mostly good and Zeus' apparent, um, fooling around with others is never mentioned and his relationship with Hera seems healthy and strong. Kronos, the big bad of the series, is a close allegory to Satan, though, as he pretty much wants to bring about the apocalypse. Other myths and legends are shifted around and can either be really inaccurate or pretty damn close enough. Of course one must keep in mind, this is a kid's show.

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* ''ClassOfTheTitans'' ''WesternAnimation/ClassOfTheTitans'' can both avert and succumb to this. While Hades isn't presented as completely evil, his realm still looks like hell. Also, he seems a bit of a... girlish man. It's the voice. The other Gods may have their problems, they do some nasty things to mortals, but they're all still mostly good and Zeus' apparent, um, fooling around with others is never mentioned and his relationship with Hera seems healthy and strong. Kronos, the big bad of the series, is a close allegory to Satan, though, as he pretty much wants to bring about the apocalypse. Other myths and legends are shifted around and can either be really inaccurate or pretty damn close enough. Of course one must keep in mind, this is a kid's show.
31st Jul '17 8:27:06 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series, this happens In-Universe with the [[SaintlyChurch religion of the Eight (later Nine) Divines]] absorbing and replacing other pantheons. Elements of those deities tend to be absorbed by their most-similar Divine equivalent, which leads to to some of the [[SplitPersonality bizarrely conflicting traits]] and [[OddJobGods spheres of influence]] present in the Divines. For example, Kynareth, the Divines' Goddess of the Air with a FriendToAllLivingThings slant, absorbed the {{Valkyrie}}[=/=]{{Psychopomp}} role of her [[HornyVikings Nord]] and [[CatFolk Khajiit]] equivalents in Kyne and Khenarthi. One rare exception comes with regards to Akatosh (the chief deity of the Divines Pantheon and "Dragon God of Time") and Ruptga (the "Tall Papa" chief deity of the Yokudan/[[ScaryBlackMan Redguard]] pantheon). While some sources associate the two, they are typically treated as separate entities. The biggest difference seems to be that Akatosh participated in [[TheMaker Lorkhan]]'s plan to create Mundus (the mortal plane), while Ruptga did not "participate or approve" of Sep's (Lorkhan's Yokudan counterpart) plan. The act of creating Mundus severely weakened the Divines, so not participating would leave Ruptga at full divine power with CompleteImmortality, closer to the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Princes]].
29th Jul '17 11:24:28 AM Cieloazul
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* [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Disney's adaptation]] of ''[[Myth/GreekMythology Hercules]]'', featuring Hades as {{Satan}}, Zeus as {{God}} (and a BumblingDad), Hercules as Jesus, and the other Olympians as angels. [[{{Bowdlerise}} To protect family values]], Zeus's "special relationship" with mortal women was ignored, making Hercules a son of ''Hera'', and poisoned (by Hades, of course) with mortality. This moves Hera out of her original ClingyJealousGirl and BigBad roles in the original myths. Interestingly enough, the movie does nothing to rectify Hera's status as Zeus's [[BrotherSisterIncest sister]], however, outside of just not mentioning it. Hades was one of the few Greek Gods who ''didn't'' routinely screw with mortals or curse them, and could even be convinced to help them (Orpheus). Granted, kidnapping Persephone wasn't very nice, but that's probably the worst thing he ever did. And he ''was'' genuinely in love with her, at least. And it was a deal with Zeus as a way of compensating for him getting the short end of the deal (being in charge of the Underworld instead of Sky or Sea).

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* [[Disney/{{Hercules}} Disney's adaptation]] of ''[[Myth/GreekMythology Hercules]]'', featuring Hades as {{Satan}}, Zeus as {{God}} (and a BumblingDad), Hercules as Jesus, and the other Olympians as angels. [[{{Bowdlerise}} To protect family values]], Zeus's "special relationship" with mortal women was ignored, making Hercules a son of ''Hera'', and poisoned (by Hades, of course) with mortality. This moves Hera out of her original ClingyJealousGirl and BigBad roles in the original myths. Interestingly enough, the movie does nothing to rectify Hera's status as Zeus's [[BrotherSisterIncest sister]], however, outside of just not mentioning it. Hades was one of the few Greek Gods who ''didn't'' routinely screw with mortals or curse them, and could even be convinced to help them (Orpheus). Granted, kidnapping Persephone wasn't very nice, but that's probably the worst thing he ever did. And Moreover, he ''was'' genuinely in love with her, at least. And it her and gave her a relatively happy matrimony, which is more than most other male gods of his level can boast of. (It was also a deal with Zeus as a way of compensating for him getting the short end of the deal (being deal, being in charge of the Underworld underworld instead of Sky sky or Sea).sea).
14th Jul '17 8:06:49 PM GrigorII
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*** Odin's self-sacrifice to gain knowledge (by hanging himself on the World Tree for nine days) bears a striking resemblance to the Crucifixion.

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*** Odin's self-sacrifice to gain knowledge (by hanging himself on the World Tree for nine days) bears a striking resemblance to the Crucifixion. However, there are no reported viking activities in the area of Israel at the time, and all reported versions of that myth are from ''after'' christianity became a thing in Europe, so it may also be a case of the vikings trying to hijak christian stories, instead of the other way. It may also be just a coincidence: deaths by hanging were a common punishment in real life, same as crucifixion, but the part of the god having his side torn by a pike seems too specific and suggests an influence in either way.
14th Jul '17 7:56:47 PM GrigorII
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* Discussed in ''Series/{{Vikings}}''. The christian priest Athelstan is kidnapped from his church in Britain, and forced to live alongside the vikings. Although he stays loyal to his religion, he couldn't help but notice the similarities between the cruxificion of Jesus and the story of Odin hanging from Yggdrassil. He becomes troubled by those notions, and eventually accepts both religions. And even then he stays troubled, because a true christian may not worship any other god.
14th Jul '17 11:45:06 AM Discar
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[Myth/NorseMythology Odin]] hanging from Yggdrassil for 9 days, in the darkness, with his side stabbed by a spear, and with no help from other gods. He died, and was reborn wiser. Hmm, [[ItsBeenDone didn't we heard that story elsewhere?]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[Myth/NorseMythology Odin]] hanging from Yggdrassil for 9 days, in the darkness, with his side stabbed by a spear, and with no help from other gods. He died, and was reborn wiser. Hmm, [[ItsBeenDone didn't haven't we heard that story elsewhere?]]]]
13th Jul '17 7:14:22 AM GrigorII
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[[quoteright:350:[[Myth/NorseMythology http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/5a212e61439858749465913bdf09aedd.jpg]]]]
[[caption-width-right:350:[[Myth/NorseMythology Odin]] hanging from Yggdrassil for 9 days, in the darkness, with his side stabbed by a spear, and with no help from other gods. He died, and was reborn wiser. Hmm, [[ItsBeenDone didn't we heard that story elsewhere?]]]]
9th Jun '17 10:20:33 AM JoeMerl
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* In ''Film/ManOfSteel'', Superman is presented as a Christ-like figure, complete with a CrucifiedHeroShot for Clark Kent and Superman.
* In ''Film/WonderWoman'', Queen Hippolyta tells a young Diana the story of how Zeus created the humans, but that his son, Ares, was jealous and set out to destroy them by seducing them to the dark side of war. And later how Ares rebelled against the other gods and was cast out. Meanwhile, the Amazons were made as a counterpoint to Ares' evil. As [[http://izzythehutt.tumblr.com/post/161397652006/wonder-woman-is-a-weird-feminist-rewrite-of this Tumblr post]] points out, it's basically a weirdly feminist retelling of Genesis where God forgot to make Eve until after Adam was seduced by the serpent alone.

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* ** In ''Film/ManOfSteel'', Superman is presented as a Christ-like figure, complete with a CrucifiedHeroShot for Clark Kent and Superman.
* ** In ''Film/WonderWoman'', Queen Hippolyta tells a young Diana the story of how Zeus created the humans, but that his son, Ares, was jealous and set out to destroy them by seducing them to the dark side of war. And later how Ares rebelled against the other gods and was cast out. Meanwhile, the Amazons were made as a counterpoint to Ares' evil. As [[http://izzythehutt.tumblr.com/post/161397652006/wonder-woman-is-a-weird-feminist-rewrite-of this Tumblr post]] points out, it's basically a weirdly feminist retelling of Genesis where God forgot to make Eve until after Adam was seduced by the serpent alone.before God even bothered to create Eve.
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