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22nd Sep '16 8:36:43 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' is based on films from the 1930s, which commonly reduced various foreign cultures into caricature. In the film, the complex and sophisticated religion of Hinduism is reduced to nice people worshiping Shiva and murderous Thuggees worshiping Kali. The Thuggees behave like stereotypical Satanic cultists. The real Thugs, those who practiced Thuggee, did worship Kali, but no more so than the Ku Klux Klan worshiped Jesus. While they did tend to ritually murder people, it was by strangulation via a yellow scarf, not ripping hearts out of someone's chest. It wasn't just the British who worked on eradicating them. And, incidentally, Kali herself is ''Shiva's wife''. Not the estranged kind, either.[[note]]Technically, Parvati is Shiva's wife, and Kali is the darker aspect of her, who awakens to strike down Evil when needed -- basically, Kali is ComicBook/{{the Incredible Hulk}} to Parvati's Bruce Banner. In Indy's defense, though, he does briefly note that the Thuggees are a heretical sect. To clarify it, Kali is a good goddess, but there is a demon ACTUALLY worshiped by the equivalent of Satanists named Kali. Note that there is ''no relation between the two entities''. The confusion exists because, English not having the level of vowel representation Indian languages do, the names of both the demon and the Goddess are written with the same spelling. For those interested, the approximate pronunciations are as follows: the Goddess's name is "Kah-lee", whereas the demon is "Kully". The proper transcriptions are Kālī and Kali.[[/note]]

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* ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' is based on films from the 1930s, which commonly reduced various foreign cultures into caricature. In the film, the complex and sophisticated religion of Hinduism is reduced to nice people worshiping Shiva and murderous Thuggees worshiping Kali. The Thuggees behave like stereotypical Satanic cultists. The real Thugs, those who practiced Thuggee, did worship Kali, but no more so than the Ku Klux Klan worshiped Jesus. While they did tend to ritually murder people, it was by strangulation via a yellow scarf, not ripping hearts out of someone's chest. It wasn't just the British who worked on eradicating them. And, incidentally, Kali herself is ''Shiva's wife''. Not the estranged kind, either.[[note]]Technically, Parvati is Shiva's wife, and Kali is the darker aspect of her, who awakens to strike down Evil when needed -- basically, Kali is ComicBook/{{the Incredible Hulk}} the ComicBook/IncredibleHulk to Parvati's Bruce Banner. In Indy's defense, though, he does briefly note that the Thuggees are a heretical sect. To clarify it, Kali is a good goddess, but there is a demon ACTUALLY worshiped by the equivalent of Satanists named Kali. Note that there is ''no relation between the two entities''. The confusion exists because, English not having the level of vowel representation Indian languages do, the names of both the demon and the Goddess are written with the same spelling. For those interested, the approximate pronunciations are as follows: the Goddess's name is "Kah-lee", whereas the demon is "Kully". The proper transcriptions are Kālī and Kali.[[/note]]
22nd Sep '16 8:36:02 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' is based on films from the 1930s, which commonly reduced various foreign cultures into caricature. In the film, the complex and sophisticated religion of Hinduism is reduced to nice people worshiping Shiva and murderous Thuggees worshiping Kali. The Thuggees behave like stereotypical Satanic cultists. The real Thugs, those who practiced Thuggee, did worship Kali, but no more so than the Ku Klux Klan worshiped Jesus. While they did tend to ritually murder people, it was by strangulation via a yellow scarf, not ripping hearts out of someone's chest. It wasn't just the British who worked on eradicating them. And, incidentally, Kali herself is ''Shiva's wife''. Not the estranged kind, either.[[note]]Technically, Parvati is Shiva's wife, and Kali is the darker aspect of her, who awakens to strike down Evil when needed. In Indy's defense, though, he does briefly note that the Thuggees are a heretical sect. To clarify it, Kali is a good goddess, but there is a demon ACTUALLY worshiped by the equivalent of Satanists named Kali. Note that there is ''no relation between the two entities''. The confusion exists because, English not having the level of vowel representation Indian languages do, the names of both the demon and the Goddess are written with the same spelling. For those interested, the approximate pronunciations are as follows: the Goddess's name is "Kah-lee", whereas the demon is "Kully". The proper transcriptions are Kālī and Kali.[[/note]]

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* ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom'' is based on films from the 1930s, which commonly reduced various foreign cultures into caricature. In the film, the complex and sophisticated religion of Hinduism is reduced to nice people worshiping Shiva and murderous Thuggees worshiping Kali. The Thuggees behave like stereotypical Satanic cultists. The real Thugs, those who practiced Thuggee, did worship Kali, but no more so than the Ku Klux Klan worshiped Jesus. While they did tend to ritually murder people, it was by strangulation via a yellow scarf, not ripping hearts out of someone's chest. It wasn't just the British who worked on eradicating them. And, incidentally, Kali herself is ''Shiva's wife''. Not the estranged kind, either.[[note]]Technically, Parvati is Shiva's wife, and Kali is the darker aspect of her, who awakens to strike down Evil when needed.needed -- basically, Kali is ComicBook/{{the Incredible Hulk}} to Parvati's Bruce Banner. In Indy's defense, though, he does briefly note that the Thuggees are a heretical sect. To clarify it, Kali is a good goddess, but there is a demon ACTUALLY worshiped by the equivalent of Satanists named Kali. Note that there is ''no relation between the two entities''. The confusion exists because, English not having the level of vowel representation Indian languages do, the names of both the demon and the Goddess are written with the same spelling. For those interested, the approximate pronunciations are as follows: the Goddess's name is "Kah-lee", whereas the demon is "Kully". The proper transcriptions are Kālī and Kali.[[/note]]
19th Sep '16 8:38:18 PM PaulA
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* In ''Wielding A Red Sword'', from Creator/PiersAnthony's ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, the Hindu protagonist equates {{Satan}} with Shiva... who is supposed to be a highly positive force of rebirth and renewal.
** Ironically, later books show that [[SatanIsGood Satan is indeed something of a positive force]].

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* In ''Wielding A Red Sword'', from Creator/PiersAnthony's ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, ''Literature/WieldingARedSword'' by Creator/PiersAnthony, the Hindu protagonist equates {{Satan}} with Shiva... who is supposed to be a highly positive force of rebirth and renewal.
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renewal. Ironically, later books in the series show that [[SatanIsGood Satan is indeed something of a positive force]].
25th Aug '16 11:14:49 AM Naram-Sin
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** Several religious technologies have Christian-themed names and icons such as "Sanctity" (golden chalice), "Redemption" (light coming down from heaven), "Atonement" (kneeling man with his hands together), "Illumination" (sunlight over an open book), Theocracy (rosary over an open book), and Faith (a [[InvokedTrope Medieval icon]]... ''of Jesus himself'').

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** Several religious technologies have Christian-themed names and icons such as "Sanctity" (golden chalice), "Redemption" (light coming down from heaven), "Atonement" (kneeling man with his hands together), "Illumination" (sunlight over an open book), Theocracy "Theocracy" (rosary over an open book), and Faith "Faith" (a [[InvokedTrope [[{{Pun}} Medieval icon]]... ''of Jesus himself'').
25th Aug '16 11:05:46 AM Naram-Sin
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* ''Videogame/AgeOfEmpiresII'': Just like most military units tend to look Western European, despite civilizations coming from all over Eurasia (and also America and Africa in the expansions), religion in the game is superficially Christian and in particular, [[ChristianityIsCatholic Catholic]]:
** The religious building is called a "Monastery" and the units it produces are "monks", even in Muslim and pre-Columbian American cultures. Building or clicking on one produces a Gregorian-like chant, and its icon is two hands placed together.
** Excluding the Americans, all monks wear priestly robes, have tonsure, and carry a crossier and a big, Western-style book clearly intended to be a Bible. They also make a Gregorian-like chant when they convert enemy units to your side.
** Several religious technologies have Christian-themed names and icons such as "Sanctity" (golden chalice), "Redemption" (light coming down from heaven), "Atonement" (kneeling man with his hands together), "Illumination" (sunlight over an open book), Theocracy (rosary over an open book), and Faith (a [[InvokedTrope Medieval icon]]... ''of Jesus himself'').
29th Jul '16 10:18:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' and its spin-offs suffer a little with this, since Hades is portrayed as a [[EverybodyHatesHades currently malevolent deity]], and the Underworld he governs has little to do with the Greek underworld (sans Cerberus, Elysium, and the rivers); it's instead a rather faithful manga version of [[TheDivineComedy Dante's Inferno]], which in turn was meant to represent the Christian hell. It is however mentioned that Hades used to have a friendly relationship with humanity, but lost his faith in humanity due to their constant sins, and disrespect towards the gods. His favor to Orpheus is mentioned in the series.

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* ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' and its spin-offs suffer a little with this, since Hades is portrayed as a [[EverybodyHatesHades currently malevolent deity]], and the Underworld he governs has little to do with the Greek underworld (sans Cerberus, Elysium, and the rivers); it's instead a rather faithful manga version of [[TheDivineComedy [[Literature/TheDivineComedy Dante's Inferno]], which in turn was meant to represent the Christian hell. It is however mentioned that Hades used to have a friendly relationship with humanity, but lost his faith in humanity due to their constant sins, and disrespect towards the gods. His favor to Orpheus is mentioned in the series.
28th Jul '16 6:25:23 PM gman992
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* Some reviewers have stated that the 1978 movie ''{{Film/Superman}}'' is laden with Christ-like and Biblical themes from the story of Moses to a white haired God-like father. The main villain even resides beneath the city in his underground lair.
17th Jul '16 7:26:22 PM PaulA
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** It is worth noting that this is due to ExecutiveMeddling. WordOfGod has said that in the original cut of the film (the ending of which is online), Zeus stayed a dickhead and it was Apollo who offered Perseus the place on Olympus, which gave a third God a somewhat significant role, and the others at least got speaking roles. [[spoiler:Plus Zeus didn't resurrect Io]].
17th Jul '16 7:25:24 PM PaulA
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* The new ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans'': Hades is the bad guy in the remake. However, at least the writers tried to provide some form of justification in that in this version of events, he was tricked into taking control of the underworld by Zeus. The blow is further softened by virtue of the fact that the rest of the gods are generally portrayed as all around dicks, particularly since the story of Medusa's origin is told as the "Poseidon raped her and Athena punished her for it" variant. On the other hand, it then turns Zeus into Jesus by [[spoiler:having him bring Io back from the dead, despite the fact that ''only Hades can raise the dead''.]] To make matters worse, it essentially makes Zeus an {{Expy}} of the Abrahamic God by having him be the creator of mankind, when in reality -- or mythology, really -- it was a Titan called Prometheus who created man from clay. This is where the subtitle of Mary Shelley's ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}'' comes from.

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* The new ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans'': 2010 ''Film/{{Clash of the Titans|2010}}'': Hades is the bad guy in the remake.guy. However, at least the writers tried to provide some form of justification in that in this version of events, he was tricked into taking control of the underworld by Zeus. The blow is further softened by virtue of the fact that the rest of the gods are generally portrayed as all around dicks, particularly since the story of Medusa's origin is told as the "Poseidon raped her and Athena punished her for it" variant. On the other hand, it then turns Zeus into Jesus by [[spoiler:having him bring Io back from the dead, despite the fact that ''only Hades can raise the dead''.]] To make matters worse, it essentially makes Zeus an {{Expy}} of the Abrahamic God by having him be the creator of mankind, when in reality -- or mythology, really -- it was a Titan called Prometheus who created man from clay. This is where the subtitle of Mary Shelley's ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}'' comes from.



** Of course, it's also worth noting that it was somewhat subverted in the original film, which Hades was barely in (if at all). Zeus is a bit of a father figure to Perseus... but because he actually ''was'' his father (as a result of him having an affair with King Acrisius' daughter), and he's not depicted as Evil, but he's certainly not Jesus in the usual sense.
28th Jun '16 12:50:01 AM PaulA
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* LloydAlexander's ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'' novels, set in a [[FantasyCounterpartCulture fantastic version]] of Wales, used Arawn, the Celtic god of the underworld, as an evil force similar to Tolkien's Sauron. The existence of an ultimate force of ''good'', on the other hand, isn't really mentioned.
** Unless you count the Sons of Don. You could make a pretty good parallel between Gwydion and Jesus in ''The Book of Three''.
** He also, at least, acknowledges that Arawn is "considerably more villainous" in his version, so at least he's aware of the situation.
** It's worse than that. Arawn isn't "the Celtic god of the underworld," he's a Welsh character who is king of an Otherworld. He has no negative characteristics in the original tale.

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* LloydAlexander's Creator/LloydAlexander's ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'' novels, set in a [[FantasyCounterpartCulture fantastic version]] of Wales, used Arawn, the Celtic god king of the underworld, Otherworld in the ''Literature/{{Mabinogion}}'', as an evil force similar to Tolkien's Sauron. The existence of an ultimate force of ''good'', on the other hand, isn't really mentioned.
** Unless
mentioned (unless you count the Sons of Don. You Don; you could make a pretty good parallel between Gwydion and Jesus in ''The Book of Three''.
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Three''). He also, at least, acknowledges in the author's note that Arawn is "considerably more villainous" in his version, so at least he's aware of the situation.
** It's worse than that. Arawn isn't "the Celtic god of the underworld," he's a Welsh character who is king of an Otherworld. He has no negative characteristics in the original tale.
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