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21st Apr '17 4:52:36 PM kome360
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* ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'': [[spoiler: The player character, The Nameless One, is really the bad guy but doesn't know it. In actual truth, The Transcendent One, the mortal aspect of The Nameless One, is the bad guy. It gets confusing. Long story short...the player character was an evil douche, and the mortal aspect of him was split away, leaving The Nameless One.]]

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* ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'': [[spoiler: The player character, The Nameless One, is really the bad guy but doesn't know it. In actual truth, The Transcendent One, the mortal aspect of The Nameless One, is the bad guy. It gets confusing. Long story short...the player character was an evil douche, Al Mualim]] and the mortal aspect of him was split away, leaving The Nameless One.]][[spoiler: Prince Ahmet]] from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations'', respectively.



* In ''VideoGame/ValkyrieProfileCovenantOfThePlume'', we know that Hel is the BigBad of the game having orchestrated all of the events for Wylfred to wreak as much sin as possible, and give Garm some fun. However; Hel is only mentioned, and when she talks, we never see her.
** She does show up in the first game when she is stopped by the Einherjar that have been sent to Valhalla. Easy to miss if you don't realize that each line of text in the review has a cutscene associated with it.
* The BigBad / Murderer of the first ''VideoGame/LauraBow'' game turns out to be [[spoiler:Lilian]], when very little evidence suggests this.
* The Inaba killer in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''. [[spoiler: It's Detective Adachi.]] Foreshadowed quite well due to the game being (except Knox's 2nd due to its nature) very compliant to the concept of FairPlayMystery. Who's even ''more'' hidden is [[spoiler: Izanami, aka the nameless gas station attendant, who gave Adachi, Nametame and the protagonist their powers in order to test humanity.]]
** In ''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'', [[spoiler: The Eerie Voice and Malevolent Entity]] never show who they are. Certain aspects of the latter, however, have spawned theories about him being [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep, the Man Behind the Man of the first ''Persona'' game and outright Big Bad of the second]].
* [[spoiler: Al Mualim]] and [[spoiler: Prince Ahmet]] from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations'', respectively.

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* In ''VideoGame/ValkyrieProfileCovenantOfThePlume'', we know that Hel is ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' has Monokuma as the BigBad facade of the game having orchestrated all main villain, but as a robot, he has to be controlled by someone. [[spoiler:At the end of the events for Wylfred to wreak as much sin as possible, and give Garm some fun. However; Hel is only mentioned, and when she talks, game, we never see her.
** She does show up in the first game when she is stopped by the Einherjar
find out that have been sent to Valhalla. Easy to miss if you don't realize that each line of text in someone is Junko Enoshima, who was FakingTheDead throughout the review has a cutscene associated with it.
* The BigBad / Murderer of the first ''VideoGame/LauraBow'' game turns out to be [[spoiler:Lilian]], when very little evidence suggests this.
* The Inaba killer in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''. [[spoiler: It's Detective Adachi.]] Foreshadowed quite well due to the game being (except Knox's 2nd due to its nature) very compliant to the concept of FairPlayMystery. Who's even ''more'' hidden is [[spoiler: Izanami, aka the nameless gas station attendant, who gave Adachi, Nametame and the protagonist their powers in order to test humanity.
game.]]
** In ''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'', ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has Monokuma again, but since [[spoiler: The Eerie Voice and Malevolent Entity]] never show who they are. Certain aspects of the latter, however, have spawned theories about him Junko is a little too busy being [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep, the Man Behind the Man of the first ''Persona'' game and outright Big Bad of the second]].
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dead]] it can't possibly still be them, right? [[spoiler: Al Mualim]] and [[spoiler: Prince Ahmet]] from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations'', respectively.Actually it is. Technically. More of an AI program of her, but still. Although there's another who could be considered TheManBehindTheMan: Izuru Kamukura, the real identity of the main character pre-mindwipe.]]



* The Elder One of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' is kept a mystery for the first act of the game, until the quest "[[WhamEpisode In Your Heart Shall Burn]]" where it is revealed to be none other than [[spoiler:Corypheus, the villain of the ''Legacy'' {{D|ownloadableContent}}LC of ''Videogame/DragonAgeII'']].



* ''VideoGame/HorizonZeroDawn'': Whatever hacked the HADES AI into becoming an OmnicidalManiac, as it is revealed that the Override hacking power was not an Old One creation and in fact an alien one. Which actually makes sense, [[spoiler:as such an ability would have clearly turned the tide of the Human-Faro war]].
* ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'': If there is a high command, TheManBehindTheMonsters, EldritchAbomination or other authority in charge of the Abyssals, they have yet to appear onscreen.



* ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' has Monokuma as the facade of the main villain, but as a robot, he has to be controlled by someone. [[spoiler:At the end of the game, we find out that someone is Junko Enoshima, who was FakingTheDead throughout the game.]]
** ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has Monokuma again, but since [[spoiler: Junko is a little too busy being dead]] it can't possibly still be them, right? [[spoiler: Actually it is. Technically. More of an AI program of her, but still. Although there's another who could be considered TheManBehindTheMan: Izuru Kamukura, the real identity of the main character pre-mindwipe.]]
* The Elder One of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' is kept a mystery for the first act of the game, until the quest "[[WhamEpisode In Your Heart Shall Burn]]" where it is revealed to be none other than [[spoiler:Corypheus, the villain of the ''Legacy'' {{D|ownloadableContent}}LC of ''Videogame/DragonAgeII'']].

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* ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' has Monokuma as the facade The BigBad / Murderer of the main villain, but as a robot, he has first ''VideoGame/LauraBow'' game turns out to be controlled by someone. [[spoiler:At [[spoiler:Lilian]], when very little evidence suggests this.
* The Inaba killer in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''. [[spoiler: It's Detective Adachi.]] Foreshadowed quite well due to
the end of game being (except Knox's 2nd due to its nature) very compliant to the game, we find out that someone concept of FairPlayMystery. Who's even ''more'' hidden is Junko Enoshima, [[spoiler: Izanami, aka the nameless gas station attendant, who was FakingTheDead throughout gave Adachi, Nametame and the game.protagonist their powers in order to test humanity.]]
** ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' has Monokuma again, but since In ''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'', [[spoiler: Junko is a little too busy The Eerie Voice and Malevolent Entity]] never show who they are. Certain aspects of the latter, however, have spawned theories about him being dead]] it can't possibly still be them, right? [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep, the Man Behind the Man of the first ''Persona'' game and outright Big Bad of the second]].
* ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'':
[[spoiler: Actually it is. Technically. More of an AI program of her, The player character, The Nameless One, is really the bad guy but still. Although there's another who could be considered TheManBehindTheMan: Izuru Kamukura, doesn't know it. In actual truth, The Transcendent One, the real identity mortal aspect of The Nameless One, is the main bad guy. It gets confusing. Long story short...the player character pre-mindwipe.]]
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was an evil douche, and the mortal aspect of him was split away, leaving The Elder One of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' is kept a mystery for the first act of the game, until the quest "[[WhamEpisode In Your Heart Shall Burn]]" where it is revealed to be none other than [[spoiler:Corypheus, the villain of the ''Legacy'' {{D|ownloadableContent}}LC of ''Videogame/DragonAgeII'']].Nameless One.]]



* ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'': If there is a high command, TheManBehindTheMonsters, EldritchAbomination or other authority in charge of the Abyssals, they have yet to appear onscreen.

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* ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'': If there In ''VideoGame/ValkyrieProfileCovenantOfThePlume'', we know that Hel is a high command, TheManBehindTheMonsters, EldritchAbomination or other authority in charge the BigBad of the Abyssals, they game having orchestrated all of the events for Wylfred to wreak as much sin as possible, and give Garm some fun. However; Hel is only mentioned, and when she talks, we never see her.
** She does show up in the first game when she is stopped by the Einherjar that
have yet been sent to appear onscreen.Valhalla. Easy to miss if you don't realize that each line of text in the review has a cutscene associated with it.
15th Apr '17 9:03:59 AM nombretomado
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* An unproduced episode of ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' had Batman and Robin dealing with a succession of supervillains, all of whom tried to kill them. They first apprehend Poison Ivy and the Riddler before confronting the Joker, who at first hints that ''he'' is the mastermind behind all the mischief. Once Batman has beaten him into submission, he finally admits that there's been someone pulling ''his'' strings, and [[spoiler: he implies this person is Rupert Thorne. Batman and Robin track down Thorne's gang and think they have found Thorne himself, but it turns out to actually be Clayface, who has taken on Thorne's appearance and assumed control of his gang while Thorne is out of town]].

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* An unproduced episode of ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' had Batman and Robin dealing with a succession of supervillains, all of whom tried to kill them. They first apprehend Poison Ivy and the Riddler before confronting the Joker, who at first hints that ''he'' is the mastermind behind all the mischief. Once Batman has beaten him into submission, he finally admits that there's been someone pulling ''his'' strings, and [[spoiler: he implies this person is Rupert Thorne. Batman and Robin track down Thorne's gang and think they have found Thorne himself, but it turns out to actually be Clayface, who has taken on Thorne's appearance and assumed control of his gang while Thorne is out of town]].
6th Apr '17 7:23:35 PM nombretomado
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* ''PlanescapeTorment'': [[spoiler: The player character, The Nameless One, is really the bad guy but doesn't know it. In actual truth, The Transcendent One, the mortal aspect of The Nameless One, is the bad guy. It gets confusing. Long story short...the player character was an evil douche, and the mortal aspect of him was split away, leaving The Nameless One.]]

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* ''PlanescapeTorment'': ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'': [[spoiler: The player character, The Nameless One, is really the bad guy but doesn't know it. In actual truth, The Transcendent One, the mortal aspect of The Nameless One, is the bad guy. It gets confusing. Long story short...the player character was an evil douche, and the mortal aspect of him was split away, leaving The Nameless One.]]
15th Mar '17 7:51:34 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'': For the first two books, Taravangian is one for the main characters. In a classic case of DramaticIrony, the reader knows, but no one else does. They learn of his organization at the end of [[Literature/WordsOfRadiance the second book]], but not his identity.
13th Jan '17 8:24:41 AM Morgenthaler
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** Also from a work by BrandonSanderson, it was very obvious from the beginning of {{Mistborn}} that [[EvilOverlord the Lord Ruler]] won his position by saving the world from something [[OmnicidalManiac even worse]]. In the second book, it was revealed that this entity was still around, [[spoiler: and it was freed from its [[SealedEvilInACan prison]] at the climax. In the third book, the entity was revealed as Ruin, primordial god of entropy and destruction]].

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** * Also from a work by BrandonSanderson, Creator/BrandonSanderson, it was very obvious from the beginning of {{Mistborn}} Literature/{{Mistborn}} that [[EvilOverlord the Lord Ruler]] won his position by saving the world from something [[OmnicidalManiac even worse]]. In the second book, it was revealed that this entity was still around, [[spoiler: and it was freed from its [[SealedEvilInACan prison]] at the climax. In the third book, the entity was revealed as Ruin, primordial god of entropy and destruction]].
19th Nov '16 6:40:36 AM Morgenthaler
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* For the first three-quarters of the first book of ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'', it's obvious that there ''is'' a BigBad (EvilSorcerer Pryrates is an obvious villain, but as he's getting his power through a DealWithTheDevil he's also obviously not the ultimate string puller) but none of the main characters know who he is. It turns out to be the [[OurElvesAreDifferent vengeful Sithi prince]] Ineluki, resurrected as the undead entity called the Storm King, who had only been mentioned in scraps of legends prior to TheReveal.

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* For the first three-quarters of the first book of ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'', ''Literature/MemorySorrowAndThorn'', it's obvious that there ''is'' a BigBad (EvilSorcerer Pryrates is an obvious villain, but as he's getting his power through a DealWithTheDevil he's also obviously not the ultimate string puller) but none of the main characters know who he is. It turns out to be the [[OurElvesAreDifferent vengeful Sithi prince]] Ineluki, resurrected as the undead entity called the Storm King, who had only been mentioned in scraps of legends prior to TheReveal.



* In ''{{Warbreaker}}'' the BigBad is hidden for almost the entire novel, and the most obvious candidates are eliminated one by one (either by proving harmless, or revealed to be only a cog in the big machine). [[spoiler: It turns out to be Bluefingers, the God King's kindly, timid secretary, who had been considered an ''ally'' of the heroes up to that point.]]

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* In ''{{Warbreaker}}'' ''Literature/{{Warbreaker}}'' the BigBad is hidden for almost the entire novel, and the most obvious candidates are eliminated one by one (either by proving harmless, or revealed to be only a cog in the big machine). [[spoiler: It turns out to be Bluefingers, the God King's kindly, timid secretary, who had been considered an ''ally'' of the heroes up to that point.]]



* In ''FateOfTheJedi'', from the very first book ''something'' had started to make various Jedi go crazy, but none of the already introduced villains (PresidentEvil Daala and an isolated but ambitious cult of Sith) seemed to have the power to cause it. In the third book, readers are introduced to an enigmatic woman with ''tremendous'' Force powers named Abeloth. [[spoiler: Turns out that she's the avatar of an EldritchAbomination who has been subtly influencing galactic events for a while now- and by the end of the book she's out of her [[SealedEvilInACan can]] and ready to take the position of BigBad full time]].

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* In ''FateOfTheJedi'', ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'', from the very first book ''something'' had started to make various Jedi go crazy, but none of the already introduced villains (PresidentEvil Daala and an isolated but ambitious cult of Sith) seemed to have the power to cause it. In the third book, readers are introduced to an enigmatic woman with ''tremendous'' Force powers named Abeloth. [[spoiler: Turns out that she's the avatar of an EldritchAbomination who has been subtly influencing galactic events for a while now- and by the end of the book she's out of her [[SealedEvilInACan can]] and ready to take the position of BigBad full time]].
5th Nov '16 3:53:56 PM WillBGood
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* Used to create a new villain in ''X-Factor''. There was a shadowy villain pulling the strings for several issues, and it was originally intended to be the Owl. For various reasons, this was nixed, and when the reveal came, prolific X-Men nemesis [[ComicBook/Apocalypse]] made his debut.

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* Used to create a new villain in ''X-Factor''. There was a shadowy villain pulling the strings for several issues, and it was originally intended to be the Owl. For various reasons, this was nixed, and when the reveal came, prolific X-Men nemesis [[ComicBook/Apocalypse]] {{ComicBook/Apocalypse}} made his debut.
30th Oct '16 8:43:39 PM ReddishGuy1
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* ''Webcomic/KirbyAdventure'' has the leader of Talzo's Gang. He has very few appearances throughout the comic and when he does appear, he is shrouded in shadows, with the only part of him being a pair of [[RedEyesTakeWarning glowing red eyes.]]

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* ''Webcomic/KirbyAdventure'' has the leader of Talzo's Gang. He has very few appearances throughout the comic and when he does appear, he is shrouded in shadows, with the only part of him we see being a pair of [[RedEyesTakeWarning glowing red eyes.]]
15th Oct '16 7:23:13 PM ReddishGuy1
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* ''Webcomic/KirbyAdventure'' has the leader of Talzo's Gang. He has very few appearances throughout the comic and the only part of him we do see are a pair of [[RedEyesTakeWarning glowing red eyes.]]

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* ''Webcomic/KirbyAdventure'' has the leader of Talzo's Gang. He has very few appearances throughout the comic and when he does appear, he is shrouded in shadows, with the only part of him we do see are being a pair of [[RedEyesTakeWarning glowing red eyes.]] ]]
6th Oct '16 7:36:48 AM gophergiggles
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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' according to WordOfGod. Creator/LaurenFaust claimed that originally ''something'' corrupted Princess Luna into [[FallenHero Nightmare Moon]] and also aided in her release, and fans speculated this same force aided in [[RealityWarper Discord's]] release as well. However with Faust's departure from the show, this plot point was dropped completely and never so much as touched on again. The ExpandedUniverse picked this up with the existence of the Nightmare Forces being responsible for the corruption, but later episodes of the main series seem to contradict this.
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