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29th May '18 6:33:42 PM PhantomRider
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** During the third series, the subplots taking place in present day London throw around the name Mr. Saxon. In the three-parter that ends the season, he is revealed to be none other than [[spoiler:the Doctor's arch nemesis, the Master, who stole the Doctor's TARDIS and traveled 18 months before Martha was introduced, and in that time became Prime Minister]].

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** During the third series, the subplots taking place in present day London throw around the name Mr. Saxon. In the three-parter that ends the season, he is revealed to be none other than [[spoiler:the Doctor's arch nemesis, the Master, who stole the Doctor's TARDIS and traveled 18 months before Martha was introduced, and in that time took on the Mr. Saxon identity and became Prime Minister]].
28th Apr '18 7:59:46 AM xathirea
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** And then Trespasser reveals [[spoiler: Solas]] was the villain all along: [[spoiler: he manipulated Corypheus into unlocking his orb, thinking it would destroy him so that he could use it to [[RestartTheWorld remove the Veil]] and make a better world for the elves. When that [[SpannerInTheWorks backfired spectacularly]], he is forced to [[LivingWithTheVillain assist the Inquisition]] in [[NiceJobFixingItVillain defeating him]], even if only to reassert control so that his rebellion can help put his plans back into action.]]

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** And then Trespasser reveals [[spoiler: Solas]] was the villain all along: [[spoiler: [[TheManBehindTheMan he manipulated Corypheus Corypheus]] into unlocking his orb, thinking it would destroy him so that he could use it to [[RestartTheWorld remove the Veil]] and make a better world for the elves. When that [[SpannerInTheWorks backfired spectacularly]], he is forced to [[LivingWithTheVillain assist the Inquisition]] in [[NiceJobFixingItVillain defeating him]], even if only to reassert control so that his rebellion can help put his plans back into action.]]
28th Apr '18 7:58:11 AM xathirea
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** And then Trespasser reveals [[spoiler: Solas]] was the villain all along: [[spoiler: he manipulated Corypheus into unlocking his orb, thinking it would destroy him so that he could use it to [[RestartTheWorld remove the Veil]] and make a better world for the elves. When that [[SpannerInTheWorks backfired spectacularly]], he is forced to [[LivingWithTheVillain assist the Inquisition]] in [[NiceJobFixingItVillain defeating him]], even if only to reassert control so that his rebellion can help put his plans back into action.]]
13th Mar '18 3:42:37 PM cybertoy0
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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has Hawk Moth ''(Le Papillion)'', TheCorrupter who transforms innocent people into deranged villains and monsters from his hidden lair. While his stated goal is to steal the power sources of Ladybug and Cat Noir, why he wants them is never touched upon, and it's only very late in the first season and the begging of the second that viewers are given even an inkling on who who Hawk Moth is or what's his motivation. [[spoiler: It's Gabriel Agrest, Adrien's emotionally distant father, and it's strongly implied that Adrien's MissingMom is the center of Gabriel's obsession.]]
25th Feb '18 5:31:03 PM ghidorah15
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* In the Temporal Cold War arc in ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', there is the mysterious humanoid only known as "Future Guy", so named because he is communicating with his Suliban henchmen from somewhere in the future. Within the whole run of series, it has never been revealed who Future Guy actually ''is'', though.
* In the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' two-parter "Redemption", the Duras sisters are conspiring with a female Romulan officer hidden in the shadows, who's face then gets revealed in the end. While she is a new character, it's still a MindScrew WhamShot for first time viewers, because she is [[spoiler:looking exactly like the deceased Enterprise crew member Tasha Yar. It turns out later that she is the daughter of a time-displaced alternate reality version of Tasha.]]

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* In the Temporal Cold War arc in ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', there is the mysterious humanoid only known as "Future Guy", so named because he is communicating with his Suliban henchmen from somewhere in the future. Within the whole run of the series, it has it's never been revealed who Future Guy actually ''is'', though.
* In the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' two-parter "Redemption", the Duras sisters are conspiring with a female Romulan officer hidden in the shadows, who's whose face then gets revealed in the end. While she is a new character, it's still a MindScrew WhamShot for first time viewers, because she is [[spoiler:looking [[spoiler: looks exactly like the deceased Enterprise crew member Tasha Yar. It turns out later that she is the daughter of a time-displaced alternate reality version of Tasha.]]Tasha]].



* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': The show's initial story arc is the boys' quest to find their father John Winchester, who has been kidnapped by an unknown entity, and to avenge the deaths of their mother Mary and Sam's girlfriend Jessica. It isn't until late in Season 1 that we and the Winchesters find out the identity of the entity behind this, the Yellow-Eyed Demon/Azazel.

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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': The show's initial story arc is the boys' quest to find their father John Winchester, who has been kidnapped by an unknown entity, and to avenge the deaths of their mother Mary and Sam's girlfriend Jessica. It isn't until late in Season 1 One that we and the Winchesters find out the identity of the entity behind this, the Yellow-Eyed Demon/Azazel.



* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': As Season 6 goes on, it becomes increasingly clear that the apparent new BigBad, Cayden James, is an UnwittingPawn of someone else, who's manipulated him into thinking that Green Arrow killed his son and sent him on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against Team Arrow. Midway through the season, it's revealed that this person is [[spoiler: Ricardo Diaz, one of James' own supposed underlings]].

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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': As Season 6 Six goes on, it becomes increasingly clear that the apparent new BigBad, Cayden James, is an UnwittingPawn of someone else, who's manipulated him into thinking that Green Arrow killed his son and sent him on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against Team Arrow. Midway through the season, it's revealed that this person true BigBad is [[spoiler: Ricardo Diaz, one of James' own supposed underlings]].



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13th Feb '18 4:20:19 PM ZimFan89
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* The Showa era of the ''[[{{Franchise/Kamen Rider}} Kamen Rider]]'' features the Great Leader, who usually remains hidden for most of the series before revealing himself in the finale.

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* The Showa era of the ''[[{{Franchise/Kamen Rider}} Kamen Rider]]'' ''Franchise/KamenRider'' features the Great Leader, who usually remains hidden for most of the series before revealing himself in the finale.



* ''Series/{{Stargate SG1}}'': The mysterious backer of all the attempts to loot off-world sites and waylay the second Stargate isn't revealed until half the series' run was over as The Committee, and they aren't at all what the Stargate Command was expecting. The organization reformed itself later without a single, clear leader.

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* ''Series/{{Stargate SG1}}'': ''Series/StargateSG1'': The mysterious backer of all the attempts to loot off-world sites and waylay the second Stargate isn't revealed until half halfway through the series' run was over series as The the Committee, and they aren't at all what the Stargate Command was expecting. The organization reformed itself into the Trust later without a single, clear leader.leader.
* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': As Season 6 goes on, it becomes increasingly clear that the apparent new BigBad, Cayden James, is an UnwittingPawn of someone else, who's manipulated him into thinking that Green Arrow killed his son and sent him on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against Team Arrow. Midway through the season, it's revealed that this person is [[spoiler: Ricardo Diaz, one of James' own supposed underlings]].
17th Jan '18 12:39:59 PM BadKarma
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A situation where a StoryArc contains a BigBad who’s identity is not known until [[TheReveal much later]]. This could be a result of the heroes going against TheFaceless, requiring only a look under the mask to understand everything. In most cases, this is an {{inver|tedTrope}}sion of the HiddenAgendaVillain, where we know that something bad is happening and the DrivingQuestion is the one behind it all.

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A situation where a StoryArc contains a BigBad who’s whose identity is not known until [[TheReveal much later]]. This could be a result of the heroes going against TheFaceless, requiring only a look under the mask to understand everything. In most cases, this is an {{inver|tedTrope}}sion of the HiddenAgendaVillain, where we know that something bad is happening and the DrivingQuestion is the one behind it all.
14th Jan '18 9:15:37 PM Valkyr
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* ''VideoGame/HorizonZeroDawn'': Whatever hacked the HADES AI into becoming an OmnicidalManiac, as it is revealed that the Override hacking power was not an Old One creation and in fact an alien one. Which actually makes sense, [[spoiler:as such an ability would have clearly turned the tide of the Human-Faro war]].

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* ''VideoGame/HorizonZeroDawn'': Whatever hacked sent the HADES AI into becoming an OmnicidalManiac, as it is revealed signal that the Override hacking power was not an Old One creation and in fact an alien one. Which actually makes sense, [[spoiler:as such an ability would have clearly turned the tide of the Human-Faro war]].GAIA's subfunctions into independent entities.
11th Jan '18 2:33:31 PM Derkhan
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* The Crippled God, BigBad of the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', was only introduced in person in the third book, though in hindsight he'd been pretty heavily foreshadowed in the first two.

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* The Crippled God, the BigBad of the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', was is only introduced in person in the third book, though in hindsight he'd been he is pretty heavily foreshadowed in the first two.
26th Dec '17 6:34:24 PM ghidorah15
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* Pictured above: the BigBad of the Film/JamesBond movie ''Film/{{Spectre}} is Franz Oberhauser, who only appears briefly early in the film, but his true name ([[spoiler:[[CanonCharacterAllAlong Ernst]] [[HijackedByGanon Stavro Blofeld]]]]) isn't revealed near the climax.

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* Pictured above: the BigBad of the Film/JamesBond movie ''Film/{{Spectre}} ''Film/{{Spectre}}'' is Franz Oberhauser, who only briefly appears briefly early in the film, but his true name ([[spoiler:[[CanonCharacterAllAlong Ernst]] [[HijackedByGanon Stavro Blofeld]]]]) isn't revealed until his later appearance near the climax.
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