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15th Jun '16 12:18:34 AM zam
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Heroic Fantasy sits somewhere in beBtween. It tends to be distinguishable from HighFantasy by its scale--the problems are generally those of the heroes, not the world. Kingdoms and societies are portrayed mainly to the extent the heroes have an impact on them. On the other hand, it's distinct from LowFantasy as well in that the heroes are actually ''heroic'' and their goals are morally sound or, at the very least, not overtly objectionable. An AntiHero in this setting is more likely to be a LoveableRogue than a WellIntentionedExtremist.

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Heroic Fantasy sits somewhere in beBtween.between. It tends to be distinguishable from HighFantasy by its scale--the problems are generally those of the heroes, not the world. Kingdoms and societies are portrayed mainly to the extent the heroes have an impact on them. On the other hand, it's distinct from LowFantasy as well in that the heroes are actually ''heroic'' and their goals are morally sound or, at the very least, not overtly objectionable. An AntiHero in this setting is more likely to be a LoveableRogue than a WellIntentionedExtremist.
13th Jun '16 7:40:51 PM SelMelvins
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* Music/BlackSabbath'' stands as the modern musical UrExample for this in their early batch of songs such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY--qaHWSw ''The Wizard'']]. They weren't alone, considering Music/LedZeppelin and Music/JethroTull were greatly inspired by Tolkien.

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* Music/BlackSabbath'' Music/BlackSabbath stands as the modern musical UrExample for this in their early batch of songs such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY--qaHWSw ''The Wizard'']]. They weren't alone, considering Music/LedZeppelin and Music/JethroTull were greatly inspired by Tolkien.
13th Jun '16 7:40:20 PM SelMelvins
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Heroic Fantasy sits somewhere in between. It tends to be distinguishable from HighFantasy by its scale--the problems are generally those of the heroes, not the world. Kingdoms and societies are portrayed mainly to the extent the heroes have an impact on them. On the other hand, it's distinct from LowFantasy as well in that the heroes are actually ''heroic'' and their goals are morally sound or, at the very least, not overtly objectionable. An AntiHero in this setting is more likely to be a LoveableRogue than a WellIntentionedExtremist.

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Heroic Fantasy sits somewhere in between.beBtween. It tends to be distinguishable from HighFantasy by its scale--the problems are generally those of the heroes, not the world. Kingdoms and societies are portrayed mainly to the extent the heroes have an impact on them. On the other hand, it's distinct from LowFantasy as well in that the heroes are actually ''heroic'' and their goals are morally sound or, at the very least, not overtly objectionable. An AntiHero in this setting is more likely to be a LoveableRogue than a WellIntentionedExtremist.



* ''Music/BlackSabbath'' stands are the modern musical UrExample for this in their early batch of songs such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY--qaHWSw ''The Wizard'']]. They weren't alone, considering ''Music/LedZeppelin'' and ''Music/JethroTull'' were greatly inspired by Tolkien.
* ''Music/RonnieJamesDio'' is the one who truly brought this to prominence, as Dio was a massive fantasy nerd and part of bands whose whole shtick revolved around muscular barbarians slaying dragons. This was most evident with his band ''Elf'' and his later solo work. See [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkysjcs5vFU Holy Diver]].

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* ''Music/BlackSabbath'' Music/BlackSabbath'' stands are as the modern musical UrExample for this in their early batch of songs such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY--qaHWSw ''The Wizard'']]. They weren't alone, considering ''Music/LedZeppelin'' Music/LedZeppelin and ''Music/JethroTull'' Music/JethroTull were greatly inspired by Tolkien.
* ''Music/RonnieJamesDio'' Music/RonnieJamesDio is the one who truly brought this to prominence, as Dio was a massive fantasy nerd and part of bands whose whole shtick revolved around muscular barbarians slaying dragons. This was most evident with his band ''Elf'' and his later solo work. See [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkysjcs5vFU Holy Diver]].''Holy Diver'']].
13th Jun '16 7:38:39 PM SelMelvins
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* ''Music/BlackSabbath stands are the modern musical UrExample for this in their early batch of songs such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY--qaHWSw ''The Wizard'']]. They weren't alone, considering ''Music/LedZeppelin'' and ''Music/JethroTull'' were greatly inspired by Tolkien.

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* ''Music/BlackSabbath ''Music/BlackSabbath'' stands are the modern musical UrExample for this in their early batch of songs such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY--qaHWSw ''The Wizard'']]. They weren't alone, considering ''Music/LedZeppelin'' and ''Music/JethroTull'' were greatly inspired by Tolkien.
13th Jun '16 7:37:46 PM SelMelvins
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* ''Music/BlackSabbath stands are the modern musical UrExample for this in their early batch of songs such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY--qaHWSw ''The Wizard'']]. They weren't alone, considering ''Music/LedZeppelin'' and ''Music/JethroTull'' were greatly inspired by Tolkien.
* ''Music/RonnieJamesDio'' is the one who truly brought this to prominence, as Dio was a massive fantasy nerd and part of bands whose whole shtick revolved around muscular barbarians slaying dragons. This was most evident with his band ''Elf'' and his later solo work. See [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkysjcs5vFU Holy Diver]].
* HeavyMithril is either this or HighFantasy in rock form.
* The whole genre of PowerMetal is defined by heroic tales of fantasy folk heroes and heroines, and takes HeavyMithril UpToEleven.
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10th Jun '16 10:41:30 AM TheFantasyChronicler
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* ''Anime/RuneSoldier'' is a comedic Heroic Fantasy spin-off of the high fantasy ''Roleplay/RecordOfLodossWar''.



* ''Anime/RuneSoldier'' is a comedic Heroic Fantasy spin-off of the high fantasy ''Roleplay/RecordOfLodossWar''.
18th May '16 3:27:00 AM WolfThunder
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* ''VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga''.

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* ''VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga''.''VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga'', [[TheAnimeOfTheGame based off of the video game of the same name]].
3rd May '16 12:07:40 PM TheFantasyChronicler
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* ''Manga/CrimsonSpell'' combines Heroic Fantasy with the YaoiGenre.



* ''Anime/BikiniWarriors'': Which involves a group of heroines with typical fantasy roles, and go on an epic quest together, while clad in bikinis.
* ''Manga/CrimsonSpell'' combines Heroic Fantasy with the YaoiGenre.



* ''Anime/RuneSoldier'' is a comedic Heroic Fantasy spin-off of the high fantasy ''Roleplay/RecordOfLodossWar''.



* ''VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga''



* ''Anime/RuneSoldier'' is a comedic Heroic Fantasy spin-off of the high fantasy ''Roleplay/RecordOfLodossWar''.



* ''Anime/BikiniWarriors'': Which involves a group of heroines with typical fantasy roles, and go on an epic quest together, while clad in bikinis.

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* ''Anime/BikiniWarriors'': Which involves a group of heroines with typical fantasy roles, and go on an epic quest together, while clad in bikinis.''VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga''.



* ''ComicBook/CerebusTheAardvark'' started as a {{Parody}} of these before becoming a full-on MindScrew.
* ''ComicBook/ConanTheBarbarian'' and ''ComicBook/RedSonja''.



* ''ComicBook/ConanTheBarbarian'' and ''ComicBook/RedSonja.''
* ''ComicBook/CerebusTheAardvark'' started as a {{Parody}} of these before becoming a full-on MindScrew.



* ''Series/TheAdventuresOfSinbad''

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* ''Series/TheAdventuresOfSinbad''''Series/TheAdventuresOfSinbad''.
* ''Film/ArmyOfDarkness'', an AffectionateParody of the genre.



* ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans''.



* ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans''
* ''Film/PrinceOfPersiaTheSandsOfTime''
* ''Film/{{Highlander}}''
* ''Film/KullTheConqueror''
* ''Film/RedSonja''
* ''Film/ArmyOfDarkness'', an AffectionateParody of the genre.
* ''Film/TheSwordAndTheSorcerer''

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* ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans''
''Film/{{Highlander}}''.
* ''Film/PrinceOfPersiaTheSandsOfTime''
''Film/KullTheConqueror''.
* ''Film/{{Highlander}}''
''Film/PrinceOfPersiaTheSandsOfTime''.
* ''Film/KullTheConqueror''
''Film/RedSonja''.
* ''Film/RedSonja''
* ''Film/ArmyOfDarkness'', an AffectionateParody of the genre.
* ''Film/TheSwordAndTheSorcerer''
''Film/TheSwordAndTheSorcerer''.



* Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/GloryRoad'' is a {{Reconstruction}} of these types of stories.
* Alison Croggon's ''Literature/BooksOfPellinor''
* Lynn Flewelling's ''Literature/{{Nightrunner}}'' series
* Creator/{{David Gemmell}}'s books are a prime example.

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* Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/GloryRoad'' is a {{Reconstruction}} of these types of stories.
The ''[[Literature/TheWarGods Bahzell]]'' series by Creator/DavidWeber.
* The ''Literature/BlackCompany'' series.
* Alison Croggon's ''Literature/BooksOfPellinor''
''Literature/BooksOfPellinor''.
* Lynn Flewelling's ''Literature/{{Nightrunner}}'' series
* Creator/{{David Gemmell}}'s books are a prime example.
''Literature/CodexAlera'' (quasi-AncientRome + ElementalPowers).



* Patrick Rothfuss's ''Literature/TheKingkillerChronicle'' (although the protagonist is leaning toward AntiHero territory and may get worse in the upcoming book 3).
* Norman Spinrad's ''Literature/TheIronDream'' (a {{Deconstruction}} geared towards showing just how screwy the genre's politics can get)
* The ''[[Literature/TheWarGods Bahzell]]'' series by Creator/DavidWeber.

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* Patrick Rothfuss's ''Literature/TheKingkillerChronicle'' (although the protagonist is leaning toward AntiHero territory and may get worse in the upcoming book 3).
* Norman Spinrad's ''Literature/TheIronDream'' (a {{Deconstruction}} geared towards showing just how screwy the genre's politics can get)
* The ''[[Literature/TheWarGods Bahzell]]'' series
Everything by Creator/DavidWeber. Creator/DavidEddings.
* Creator/{{David Gemmell}}'s books are a prime example.



* Fritz Leiber's ''Literature/{{Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser}}''
* Karl Edward Wagner's ''Literature/{{Kane}}''

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* D. E. Wyatt's ''[[Literature/ElsabethSoesten No Good Deed...]]'' has many elements of this.
* ''Literature/TheExilesViolin'': A hero armed with mystical weapons that fights a power mad EvilSorcerer doesn't sound like the kind of thing that would happen in a SteamPunk detective story but it happens and checks off the other markers such as personal trouble and grey morality.
* Fritz Leiber's ''Literature/{{Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser}}''
Mouser}}''.
* Karl Edward Wagner's ''Literature/{{Kane}}''Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/GloryRoad'' is a {{Reconstruction}} of these types of stories.
* Charles R. Saunders's ''Literature/{{Imaro}}''.
* Norman Spinrad's ''Literature/TheIronDream'' (a {{Deconstruction}} geared towards showing just how screwy the genre's politics can get).



** Her husband Creator/HenryKuttner was no slouch in the genre, with works like ''Elak of Atlantis'', ''Valley of Flame'' and ''The Dark World.''
* Charles R. Saunders's ''Literature/{{Imaro}}''.
* The ''Literature/BlackCompany'' series
* ''[[Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen The Malazan Book of the Fallen]]'', especially during [[{{BadAss}} Karsa Orlong]]'s storylines.

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** Her husband Creator/HenryKuttner was no slouch in the genre, with works like ''Elak of Atlantis'', ''Valley of Flame'' and ''The Dark World.''
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* Charles R. Saunders's ''Literature/{{Imaro}}''.
Karl Edward Wagner's ''Literature/{{Kane}}''.
* The ''Literature/BlackCompany'' series
Patrick Rothfuss's ''Literature/TheKingkillerChronicle'' (although the protagonist is leaning toward AntiHero territory and may get worse in the upcoming book 3).
* ''[[Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen The Malazan Book of the Fallen]]'', especially during [[{{BadAss}} Karsa Orlong]]'s storylines.



* The ''Literature/{{Shadowleague}}'' trilogy

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* The ''Literature/{{Shadowleague}}'' trilogy''Literature/MoribitoGuardianOfTheSpirit:'' While it later turns out that the fate of the kingdom is at stake, the story follows a lone mercenary on the run, who is trying to hide the prince from assassins send after him by his own father.



* ''Literature/CodexAlera'' (quasi-AncientRome + ElementalPowers).
* Creator/LordDunsany's "The Sword of Welleran" and "The Fortress Unvanquishable, Save for Sacnoth", as well as a few other short stories here and there.
* Everything by Creator/DavidEddings.

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* ''Literature/CodexAlera'' (quasi-AncientRome + ElementalPowers).
* Creator/LordDunsany's "The Sword of Welleran" and "The Fortress Unvanquishable, Save for Sacnoth", as well as a few other short stories here and there.
* Everything by Creator/DavidEddings.
Lynn Flewelling's ''Literature/{{Nightrunner}}'' series.



* Tamora Pierce's ''Literature/{{Tortall Universe}}''.
* ''Literature/TheExilesViolin'': A hero armed with mystical weapons that fights a power mad EvilSorcerer doesn't sound like the kind of thing that would happen in a SteamPunk detective story but it happens and checks off the other markers such as personal trouble and grey morality.
* Lynn Abbey's ''Rifkin'' series.
* D. E. Wyatt's ''[[Literature/ElsabethSoesten No Good Deed...]]'' has many elements of this.
* ''Literature/MoribitoGuardianOfTheSpirit:'' While it later turns out that the fate of the kingdom is at stake, the story follows a lone mercenary on the run, who is trying to hide the prince from assassins send after him by his own father.

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* Lynn Abbey's ''Rifkin'' series.
* The ''Literature/{{Shadowleague}}'' trilogy.
* Creator/LordDunsany's "The Sword of Welleran" and "The Fortress Unvanquishable, Save for Sacnoth", as well as a few other short stories here and there.
* Tamora Pierce's ''Literature/{{Tortall Universe}}''.
* ''Literature/TheExilesViolin'': A hero armed with mystical weapons that fights a power mad EvilSorcerer doesn't sound like the kind of thing that would happen in a SteamPunk detective story but it happens and checks off the other markers such as personal trouble and grey morality.
* Lynn Abbey's ''Rifkin'' series.
* D. E. Wyatt's ''[[Literature/ElsabethSoesten No Good Deed...]]'' has many elements of this.
* ''Literature/MoribitoGuardianOfTheSpirit:'' While it later turns out that the fate of the kingdom is at stake, the story follows a lone mercenary on the run, who is trying to hide the prince from assassins send after him by his own father.
Universe}}''.



* ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys''
* ''Series/{{Roar}}'' (pre-[[Myth/KingArthur Arthurian]] British Isles)
* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess''
* ''Series/LegendOfTheSeeker''
* ''{{Series/Merlin}}''
* Arguably ''Series/RobinOfSherwood'' what with its use of archetypes and mysticism.
* ''Series/KrodMandoonAndTheFlamingSwordOfFire'' is a parody of the genre.
* ''Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger'' with dinosaurs and a ''{{Franchise/Super Sentai}}'' twist.



* ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys''.
* ''Series/KrodMandoonAndTheFlamingSwordOfFire'' is a parody of the genre.
* ''Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger'' with dinosaurs and a ''{{Franchise/Super Sentai}}'' twist.
* ''Series/LegendOfTheSeeker''.
* ''{{Series/Merlin}}''.
* ''Series/{{Roar}}'' (pre-[[Myth/KingArthur Arthurian]] British Isles).
* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess''.
* Arguably ''Series/RobinOfSherwood'' what with its use of archetypes and mysticism.



* The "Barbarian" table of ''VideoGame/BallsOfSteel''.
* True to its license, ''Pinball/DungeonsAndDragons'' plays this absolutely straight.
* ''Pinball/{{Gorgar}}''.



* ''Pinball/{{Gorgar}}''
* ''Pinball/{{Paragon}}''
* The "Barbarian" table of ''VideoGame/BallsOfSteel''

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* ''Pinball/{{Gorgar}}''
* ''Pinball/{{Paragon}}''
* The "Barbarian" table of ''VideoGame/BallsOfSteel''
''Pinball/{{Paragon}}''.



* True to its license, ''Pinball/DungeonsAndDragons'' plays this absolutely straight.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is what you get when you combine this with the tropes of wuxia, ancient myth, and a dash of shonen anime style to taste.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is what you get when you combine this with the tropes of wuxia, ancient myth, and a dash of shonen anime style to taste.



* ''VideoGame/BarbarianTheUltimateWarrior''.
* ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls''.



* ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls''
* ''VideoGame/SuperbrothersSwordAndSworceryEP''

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* ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls''
* ''VideoGame/SuperbrothersSwordAndSworceryEP''
''VideoGame/FantasyQuest''.



* ''Franchise/PrinceOfPersia''
* ''VideoGame/TheReconstruction'' ({{Deconstruction}}, ironically)
* ''VideoGame/FantasyQuest''
* ''VideoGame/TheWitcher:'' A lone monster hunter hunting a sorcerer who stole the alchemical secrets from the witchers.
* ''VideoGame/BarbarianTheUltimateWarrior''



* ''Franchise/PrinceOfPersia''.
* ''VideoGame/TheReconstruction'' ({{Deconstruction}}, ironically).



* ''VideoGame/SuperbrothersSwordAndSworceryEP''.
* ''VideoGame/TheWitcher:'' A lone monster hunter hunting a sorcerer who stole the alchemical secrets from the witchers.



* ''Webcomic/TheEchoChronicles'', One plane consists of this kind of world, connected to another which is UrbanFantasy.
* ''Webcomic/{{Evon}}''.
* ''Webcomic/MeatShield''.



* ''Webcomic/MeatShield''.
* ''Webcomic/{{Evon}}''
* ''Webcomic/TheEchoChronicles'', One plane consists of this kind of world, connected to another which is UrbanFantasy.



* ''WesternAnimation/FireAndIce''
* ''WesternAnimation/ThundarrTheBarbarian''
* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime''

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* ''WesternAnimation/FireAndIce''
''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime''.
* ''WesternAnimation/ThundarrTheBarbarian''
''WesternAnimation/FireAndIce''.
* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime''''WesternAnimation/ThundarrTheBarbarian''.
8th Mar '16 1:50:24 PM Eievie
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Heroic Fantasy sits somewhere in between. It tends to be distinguishable from HighFantasy by its scale -- the problems are generally those of the heroes, not the world. Kingdoms and societies are portrayed mainly to the extent the heroes have an impact on them. On the other hand, it's distinct from LowFantasy as well in that the heroes are actually ''heroic'' and their goals are morally sound or, at the very least, not overtly objectionable. An AntiHero in this setting is more likely to be a LoveableRogue than a WellIntentionedExtremist.

The setting differs as well: it is neither fragile and [[SavingTheWorld in need of saving]], nor a CrapsackWorld with wickedness InherentInTheSystem - rather, it's an ambiguous place, characterized more than anything by being an AdventureFriendlyWorld, with much [[TheHerosJourney untamed wilderness to travel through]], [[FetchQuest quests to undertake]] and [[DungeonCrawling dungeons to delve]]. Therefore, the heroes are very likely to encounter magic and fantastic elements, assuming they aren't prevalent in the setting to begin with.

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Heroic Fantasy sits somewhere in between. It tends to be distinguishable from HighFantasy by its scale -- the scale--the problems are generally those of the heroes, not the world. Kingdoms and societies are portrayed mainly to the extent the heroes have an impact on them. On the other hand, it's distinct from LowFantasy as well in that the heroes are actually ''heroic'' and their goals are morally sound or, at the very least, not overtly objectionable. An AntiHero in this setting is more likely to be a LoveableRogue than a WellIntentionedExtremist.

The setting differs as well: it is neither fragile and [[SavingTheWorld in need of saving]], nor a CrapsackWorld with wickedness InherentInTheSystem - rather, InherentInTheSystem--rather, it's an ambiguous place, characterized more than anything by being an AdventureFriendlyWorld, with much [[TheHerosJourney untamed wilderness to travel through]], [[FetchQuest quests to undertake]] and [[DungeonCrawling dungeons to delve]]. Therefore, the heroes are very likely to encounter magic and fantastic elements, assuming they aren't prevalent in the setting to begin with.
27th Dec '15 11:00:37 AM NoSpoilerz
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One of the three typical settings for fantasy literature. HighFantasy usually focuses on the epic struggle between absolute good and absolute evil, and the characters are thrust in the midst. LowFantasy portrays the struggle of characters to achieve their own personal goals, ranging from [[GreyAndGrayMorality questionable]] to [[BlackAndBlackMorality decidedly unsavory]].

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One of the three typical settings for fantasy literature. HighFantasy usually focuses on the epic struggle between absolute good and absolute evil, and the characters are thrust in the midst. LowFantasy portrays the struggle of characters to achieve their own personal goals, ranging from [[GreyAndGrayMorality questionable]] to [[BlackAndBlackMorality [[EvilVersusEvil decidedly unsavory]].
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