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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': The Grey Wardens (and their newest member, [[PlayerCharacter you]]) need to stop the latest [[WorldWreckingWave Blight]] from destroying Ferelden, but [[BigBad Teyrn Loghain]] (who doesn't believe in Grey Wardens or the Blight), does everything in his power to try to stop you. In this case, the heroes are 'reacting'' to the Blight but a separate, different villain is hindering them.
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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': The Grey Wardens (and their newest member, [[PlayerCharacter you]]) need to stop the latest [[WorldWreckingWave Blight]] from destroying Ferelden, but [[BigBad Teyrn Loghain]] (who doesn't believe in Grey Wardens or the Blight), does everything in his power to try to stop you. In this case, the heroes are 'reacting'' ''reacting'' to the Blight but a separate, different villain is hindering them.
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* In ''Fanfic/BreathOfTheWild'', an adaptation of ''Videogame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', this happens in two different ways.
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* In ''Fanfic/BreathOfTheWild'', ''Fanfic/TheMythOfLinkAndZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', an adaptation of ''Videogame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', this happens in two different ways.
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* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'': Chapters 1 to 10 focus on Lyn's quest to travel from her homeland in Sacae to Lycia to meet her bedridden grandfather Lord Hausen at Caelin, with help from the two cavaliers he sent as well as other mercenaries Lyn's party meets along the way. However, her [[EvilUncle grand uncle]] Lundgren sees her existance as an obstacle to his inheritance of Caelin's throne, and responded by sending assassins and soldiers after her, while force-feeding his brother poison to hasten his claim to rule over Caelin.
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* Used at times in ''ComicBook/{{Diabolik}}'': the VillainProtagonist usually has the initiative, but from time to time it's [[SympatheticInspectorAntagonist inspector Ginko]] to come up with a plan to lure Diabolik into an ambush or otherwise foil him or other criminals. Especially notable is the first time this happens, the aptly titled story "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Ginko Attacks!]]", in which Ginko's plan is so sudden and unexpected Diabolik is on the run the entire time and can only watch as Ginko raids his main hideout and discovers a ''map to all his other hideouts'' (Diabolik managed to escape and rebuild, but he could never replace the elaborate hideouts taken from Walter Dorian's organization that he lost that day).
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'' is defined by the attempts of protagonist Walter White to make meth and build a fortune for his family, while the antagonists all threaten that goal. During periods where Walter has (at least temporarily) neutralized all of his antagonists, the show will skip through weeks or months at a time in a single montage as Walter simply goes about his drug manufacturing unhindered. When Walt himself becomes the BigBad, the story then becomes the struggle between Skyler's attempts to stop his meth empire expansion in Season 5A, and Hank's attempts to bring Walt to justice in Season 5B.
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'' is defined by the attempts of protagonist Walter White to make meth and build a fortune for his family, while the antagonists all threaten that goal. During periods where Walter has (at least temporarily) neutralized all of his antagonists, the show will skip through weeks or months at a time in a single montage as Walter simply goes about his drug manufacturing unhindered. When Walt himself becomes the BigBad, BigBad in the back half of Season 5, the story then becomes shifts to the struggle between Skyler's attempts to stop his meth empire expansion in Season 5A, and Hank's attempts of Hank trying to bring Walt him to justice in Season 5B.while Walt hinders his progress.
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'' is defined by the attempts of protagonist Walter White to make meth and build a fortune for his family, while the antagonists all threaten that goal. During periods where Walter has (at least temporarily) neutralized all of his antagonists, the show will skip through weeks or months at a time in a single montage as Walter simply goes about his drug manufacturing unhindered. When Walt himself becomes the BigBad, the story then becomes the struggle between Skyler and Hank's attempts to stop his meth empire expansion, and Walt's attempts to continue it and evade justice.
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'' is defined by the attempts of protagonist Walter White to make meth and build a fortune for his family, while the antagonists all threaten that goal. During periods where Walter has (at least temporarily) neutralized all of his antagonists, the show will skip through weeks or months at a time in a single montage as Walter simply goes about his drug manufacturing unhindered. When Walt himself becomes the BigBad, the story then becomes the struggle between Skyler and Hank's Skyler's attempts to stop his meth empire expansion, expansion in Season 5A, and Walt's Hank's attempts to continue it and evade justice.bring Walt to justice in Season 5B.
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* ''Franchise/JoJosBizarreAdventure'':
** While Dio is very much active in ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood'', his role in the plot of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders'' is mostly passive; he gets the heroes involved completely on accident as a side-effect of gaining his stand powers (it's a long story, but the important part is that Jotaro's mother Holly ends up really sick and the only cure is killing Dio), and from then on tosses obstacles in their path while posing dramatically in his manor and dealing with completely different plots.
** ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind'': In the second half of the part, Giorno and his gang try to find the Boss' identity in order to take control of his empire. Naturally, he sends agents to try and stop them.
** The final boss of ''Manga/JoJolion'' has this ''enforced'' on him by his stand power. His stand Wonder of U attacks anyone who pursues him with increasing calamities until they stop trying or die, but it doesn't account for his own actions. If he ever acts first, his opponents will be free to retaliate because it isn't really 'pursuit' if he comes to you first, and acting in self-defense isn't pursuit either.
** While Dio is very much active in ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood'', his role in the plot of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders'' is mostly passive; he gets the heroes involved completely on accident as a side-effect of gaining his stand powers (it's a long story, but the important part is that Jotaro's mother Holly ends up really sick and the only cure is killing Dio), and from then on tosses obstacles in their path while posing dramatically in his manor and dealing with completely different plots.
** ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind'': In the second half of the part, Giorno and his gang try to find the Boss' identity in order to take control of his empire. Naturally, he sends agents to try and stop them.
** The final boss of ''Manga/JoJolion'' has this ''enforced'' on him by his stand power. His stand Wonder of U attacks anyone who pursues him with increasing calamities until they stop trying or die, but it doesn't account for his own actions. If he ever acts first, his opponents will be free to retaliate because it isn't really 'pursuit' if he comes to you first, and acting in self-defense isn't pursuit either.
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* ''Franchise/JoJosBizarreAdventure'':
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** While Dio is very much active in''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood'', ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood Phantom Blood]]'', his role in the plot of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders'' ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Stardust Crusaders]]'' is mostly passive; he gets the heroes involved completely on accident as a side-effect of gaining months after obtaining his stand powers (it's a long story, but the important part is that Stand; The World, which also caused Jotaro's mother Holly ends up really sick to fall ill. After Jotaro and the only cure is killing Dio), and from then on tosses obstacles others set off towards Egypt, Dio sends his minions in their path while posing dramatically waiting in his manor and dealing with completely different plots.
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**''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind'': ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind Golden Wind]]'': In the second half of the part, Giorno and his gang try to find the Boss' identity in order to take control of his empire. Naturally, he sends agents to try and stop them.
** Thefinal boss BigBad of ''Manga/JoJolion'' ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureJoJolion JoJolion]]'' has this ''enforced'' on him by his stand power. His stand Stand, Wonder of U U, attacks anyone who pursues him with increasing calamities until they stop trying or die, but it doesn't account for his own actions. If he ever acts first, his opponents will be free to retaliate because it isn't really 'pursuit' if he comes to you first, and acting in self-defense isn't pursuit either.
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* At the start of ''WesternAnimation/Incredibles2'', superheroism is outlawed and those with superpowers are forced to hide them. So the Parr family and Frozone team up with an eccentric billionaire to restore the supers' public image and make superheroism legal again. The villain, the Screenslaver, appears to be some kind of visionary as well, and makes vague monologues about modern society, [[spoiler:but this is ultimately just a distraction. Her real goal is merely to entrench the current status quo, and turn the general public further against supers.]] \\
Perhaps this is unintentionally an example of ''why'' proactive heroes and reactive villains aren't more common in superhero stories: Since the villain already had what they wanted at the beginning of the story, and their plan involved playing along with the heroes before betraying them in the third act, a lot of viewers came away with the impression the villain would have won if they had just done nothing at all.
Perhaps this is unintentionally an example of ''why'' proactive heroes and reactive villains aren't more common in superhero stories: Since the villain already had what they wanted at the beginning of the story, and their plan involved playing along with the heroes before betraying them in the third act, a lot of viewers came away with the impression the villain would have won if they had just done nothing at all.
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* At the start of ''WesternAnimation/Incredibles2'', superheroism is outlawed and those with superpowers are forced to hide them. So the Parr family and Frozone team up with an eccentric billionaire to restore the supers' public image and make superheroism legal again. The villain, the Screenslaver, appears to be some kind of visionary as well, and makes vague monologues about modern society, [[spoiler:but this is ultimately just a distraction. Her real goal is merely to entrench the current status quo, and turn the general public further against supers.]] \\
Perhaps this is unintentionally an example of ''why'' proactive heroes and reactive villains aren't more common in superhero stories: Since the villain already had what they wanted at the beginning of the story, and their plan involved playing along with the heroes before betraying them in the third act, a lot of viewers came away with the impression the villain would have won if they had just done nothing at all.]]
Perhaps this is unintentionally an example of ''why'' proactive heroes and reactive villains aren't more common in superhero stories: Since the villain already had what they wanted at the beginning of the story, and their plan involved playing along with the heroes before betraying them in the third act, a lot of viewers came away with the impression the villain would have won if they had just done nothing at all.
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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': The Grey Wardens (and their newest member, [[PlayerCharacter you]]) need to stop the latest [[WorldWreckingWave Blight]] from destroying Ferelden, but [[BigBad Teyrn Loghain]] (who doesn't believe in Grey Wardens or the Blight), does everything in his power to try to stop you. In this case, the heroes are 'reacting'' to the Blight but a separate, different villain is hindering them.
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* ''VideoGame/ANNOMutationem'': Ann's main objective is finding her missing brother. Whether it's the [[TheMafia Factio Pugni]] trying to stop her from re-obtaining a stolen ROM or [[NGOSuperpower The Consortium]] getting in her way, Ann will [[OneWomanArmy not stop]] at rescuing Ryan.
* ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' is about a male high school student who joins a literature club with four other girls, leading him to attempt to romance one of them. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, the club president, Monika, intends to bend the world around her so that the player themselves has no choice but to pursue her.]]
* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': The Grey Wardens (and their newest member, [[PlayerCharacter you]]) need to stop the latest [[WorldWreckingWave Blight]] from destroying Ferelden, but [[BigBad Teyrn Loghain]] (who doesn't believe in Grey Wardens or the Blight), does everything in his power to try to stop you. In this case, the heroes are 'reacting'' to the Blight but a separate, different villain is hinderingthem. them.
* ''VideoGame/DuckTales'' has Scrooge seek out five Lost Treasures to further solidify his status as the Richest Duck in the World, fighting enemies along the way.
* ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange2'': Sean and Daniel's main goal is to make it to Puerto Lobos so they can escape punishment for a crime they didn't commit. The story does not have an arching villain, but the brothers have to deal with several unsavory figures, such as a racist convenience store owner, the leader of a marijuana planting operation, and the insane leader of a cult-like church.
* ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' is about a male high school student who joins a literature club with four other girls, leading him to attempt to romance one of them. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, the club president, Monika, intends to bend the world around her so that the player themselves has no choice but to pursue her.]]
* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': The Grey Wardens (and their newest member, [[PlayerCharacter you]]) need to stop the latest [[WorldWreckingWave Blight]] from destroying Ferelden, but [[BigBad Teyrn Loghain]] (who doesn't believe in Grey Wardens or the Blight), does everything in his power to try to stop you. In this case, the heroes are 'reacting'' to the Blight but a separate, different villain is hindering
* ''VideoGame/DuckTales'' has Scrooge seek out five Lost Treasures to further solidify his status as the Richest Duck in the World, fighting enemies along the way.
* ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange2'': Sean and Daniel's main goal is to make it to Puerto Lobos so they can escape punishment for a crime they didn't commit. The story does not have an arching villain, but the brothers have to deal with several unsavory figures, such as a racist convenience store owner, the leader of a marijuana planting operation, and the insane leader of a cult-like church.
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* ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange2'': Sean and Daniel's main goal is to make it to Puerto Lobos so they can escape punishment for a crime they didn't commit. The story does not have an arching villain, but the brothers have to deal with several unsavory figures, such as a racist convenience store owner, the leader of a marijuana planting operation, and the insane leader of a cult-like church.
* ''VideoGame/DuckTales'' has Scrooge seek out five Lost Treasures to further solidify his status as the Richest Duck in the World, fighting enemies along the way.
* ''VideoGame/DuckTales'' has Scrooge seek out five Lost Treasures to further solidify his status as the Richest Duck in the World, fighting enemies along the way.
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* ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' is about a male high school student who joins a literature club with four other girls, leading him to attempt to romance one of them. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, the club president, Monika, intends to bend the world around her so that the player themselves has no choice but to pursue her.]]
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* ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' is about a male high school student who joins a literature club with four other girls, leading him to attempt to romance one of them. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, the club president, Monika, intends to bend the world around her so that the player themselves has no choice but to pursue her.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'': In Season 3, the plot is driven more by the heroes acting to save the Isles, which has been [[spoiler:taken over by The Collector. Belos however, isn't going to let that happen, determined to deny Luz her victory]].
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