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23rd Sep '16 8:06:41 PM Discar
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* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'':
** At the beginning of season 4, Daisy, AKA Quake, is this. Due to her vigilante actions against the Watchdogs and their allies, the public only knows her as a dangerous bank robber and terrorist. It doesn't help that her powers are overly destructive; she took out a bridge while capturing some fleeing Watchdogs. No one else was hurt, but that's still the kind of thing that freaks people out.
** In the same season, Robbie Reyes, AKA Ghost Rider. Since he supernaturally knows who deserves to die, he never bothers producing any proof that any of them have done anything wrong. While this is fine for common criminals, Daisy mentions a cop and a teacher -- a DirtyCop and pedophile, respectively -- who did nothing wrong as far as the public knows. Even when told why they were killed, Daisy still takes issue with just outright murdering them.
15th Sep '16 12:07:59 AM PaulA
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* [[EndersGame Ender Wiggin]] manages to do this to himself quite by accident. At first, he's a great hero who saved Earth from the evil Buggers. However, after writing ''The Hive Queen'' under an assumed name, he gets people to sympathize with the Buggers and villify Ender as "Xenocide".

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* [[EndersGame ''Literature/EndersGame'': Ender Wiggin]] Wiggin manages to do this to himself quite by accident. At first, he's a great hero who saved Earth from the evil Buggers. However, after writing ''The Hive Queen'' under an assumed name, he gets people to sympathize with the Buggers and villify Ender as "Xenocide".
4th Sep '16 9:57:15 PM Blueeyedrat
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* ''ComicBook/AtomicRobo'': Robo's creator, UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla, deliberately thrust him into the spotlight as an international celebrity as a protective measure; if anything happened to him, or if anyone tried to weaponize Tesla's technology, ''people would notice''. Turning public opinion against Robo (through a FalseFlagOperation involving [[spoiler:a stolen nuclear warhead]]) is how [[GovernmentConspiracy Majestic 12]] finally gains the upper hand on him, allowing them to shut down Tesladyne and absorb its resources (and other SuperScience institutions around the world) into the paramilitary Task Force ULTRA. Opinion swings back towards Robo's favor after he saves the world from a [[{{Kaiju}} Biomega]] invasion.
2nd Sep '16 9:35:50 AM Tron80
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** In ''Comicbook/SupergirlRebirth'', Director Chase regards Supergirl as an out-of-control liability -although she has saved the world several times at this point- due to the number of messes she caused or took part in before getting over her angst, loneliness and anger issues.
24th Aug '16 8:09:29 AM BattleMaster
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** [[ComicBook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] is following in those footsteps when [[spoiler:a plot by HYDRA]] ends up making Ms. Marvel look like a total sellout when her face is used to promote new and expensive apartments, using her face to promote it.

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** [[ComicBook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] is following in those footsteps when [[spoiler:a plot by HYDRA]] ends up making Ms. Marvel look like a total sellout when her face is used to promote new and expensive apartments, using apartments without her face to promote it.knowledge.
20th Aug '16 7:20:05 PM JackG
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* In the first two seasons of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', our heroes have this problem because the Kazon have been badmouthing Voyager to prevent them gaining allies as they trek through the Delta Quadrant. In later seasons however, their reputation has improved enough for some con artists to make a profitable business out of pretending to be the Voyager crew.
18th Aug '16 11:42:51 AM bjshipley1
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* The instigation for the events in Creator/MarvelComics' ''Comicbook/CivilWar'' [[CrisisCrossover crossover]] is a large amount of collateral damage (including a few hundred dead children) due to a TakingYouWithMe villain. For a brief time, ''all'' the heroes have bad publicity -- [[BlamingTheVictim especially the few surviving New Warriors]]. The government's idea of damage control is, of course, a SuperRegistrationAct that promptly pits hero against hero. Public opinion then gives all the non-compliers bad publicity. When the new 'government-sponsored heroes' turn out to have overlooked a massive planet-wide [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion infiltration by aliens]], Iron Man and Spider-Woman wind up with bad publicity. At this point the government decides to put noted psychotic and multiple-murderer Norman Osborn in charge, due to his brief moment of VillainsDoTheDirtyWork. This works out about as well as you'd expect, thus leaving the reader to wonder if the ''US government'' isn't being depicted as a VillainWithGoodPublicity.

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* The instigation for the events in Creator/MarvelComics' ''Comicbook/CivilWar'' [[CrisisCrossover crossover]] is a large amount of collateral damage (including a few hundred dead children) due to a TakingYouWithMe villain. For a brief time, ''all'' the heroes have bad publicity -- [[BlamingTheVictim [[GoodVictimsBadVictims especially the few surviving New Warriors]]. The government's idea of damage control is, of course, a SuperRegistrationAct that promptly pits hero against hero. Public opinion then gives all the non-compliers bad publicity. When the new 'government-sponsored heroes' turn out to have overlooked a massive planet-wide [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion infiltration by aliens]], Iron Man and Spider-Woman wind up with bad publicity. At this point the government decides to put noted psychotic and multiple-murderer Norman Osborn in charge, due to his brief moment of VillainsDoTheDirtyWork. This works out about as well as you'd expect, thus leaving the reader to wonder if the ''US government'' isn't being depicted as a VillainWithGoodPublicity.
7th Aug '16 5:32:45 AM ThePat
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11772125/1/Metroid-Kamen-Rider-Generations-Full-Series Metroid: Kamen Rider Generations]]'', [[Series/KamenRiderGaim Mitsuzane Kureshima]] considers himself to be this, but more of a [[AlasPoorScrappy broken scrappy example]].
21st Jul '16 3:31:03 AM Tron80
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** Way back in the very first Superman stories, by way of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, this happened ''entirely'' as a result of his own tendency for morally questionable actions.
*** He started getting good publicity pretty quickly, though, since one of the city's most prominent reporters was ''in love with him.'' Being a reporter ''himself'' can't have hurt, either.

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** Way back in the very first Superman stories, by way of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, this happened ''entirely'' as a result of his own tendency for morally questionable actions.
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actions. He started getting good publicity pretty quickly, though, since one of the city's most prominent reporters was ''in love with him.'' Being a reporter ''himself'' can't have hurt, either.



** In the ''Comicbook{{Supergirl}}'' story arc ''Comicbook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' -in which Supergirl became a Red Lantern- this was subverted when Superman and [[Franchise/GreenLantern Guy Gardner]] talked about Supergirl. Superman admitted that Justice League teammate Hal Jordan had nothing good to tell about the Red Lanterns (even when they try to be heroes, Red Lanterns are generally regarded as violent, dangerous, blood-thirsty sociopaths); but he added that he judges people based on what they do, not what people say about them, and he forms his own opinions.

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** In the ''Comicbook{{Supergirl}}'' ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' story arc ''Comicbook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' -in which Supergirl became a Red Lantern- this was subverted when Superman and [[Franchise/GreenLantern Guy Gardner]] talked about Supergirl. Superman admitted that Justice League teammate Hal Jordan had nothing good to tell about the Red Lanterns (even when they try to be heroes, Red Lanterns are generally regarded as violent, dangerous, blood-thirsty sociopaths); but he added that he judges people based on what they do, not what people say about them, and he forms his own opinions.
21st Jul '16 3:27:06 AM Tron80
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* With the ''ComicBook/NewKrypton'' storyline, Superman, Supergirl, Nightwing, Flamebird, Valor, and their friends are lumped together with General Zod and the Kandorians in Earth's eyes.
* WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck's superhero alter ego, Paperinik, suffers from this in Comicbook/PaperinikNewAdventures, thanks to Angus Fangus, a low-life reporter who's decided to paint Paperinik as a menace to society for the sake of ratings. This mostly happens in his city, Duckburg; he has a pretty good reputation worldwide. All of this is {{Justified}}: the early stories of Paperinik made clear he was an hell of a criminal and TheDreaded, thus the people of Duckburg are ready to believe he just returned to his original ways, while people from outside Duckburg started hearing of him when he became a famous superhero and don't believe Angus.
* ComicBook/TheCreeper is often seen as a creep by the public and as an outright criminal by the police/other superheroes, but the twist is that he himself is more than willing to accuse and demonize the Creeper as Jack Ryder, his reporter/talk show host alter ego to lessen any suspicions that they might be connected. And Ryder is seen as an irritating TV menace on his own too.
* Franchise/TheGreenHornet actually invokes this. Since his day job consists of him being the owner and publisher of a major newspaper, Britt Reed, he constantly has his newspaper run stories about the Green Hornet being a dangerous criminal mastermind so he (as the Green Hornet) can infiltrate criminal gangs who assume he wants a cut of their operation.
* In a complete 180 of his long held status, Franchise/{{Superman}} in the Comicbook/{{New 52}} starts out as one of these (which is covered in ''ComicBook/ActionComics''.) It becomes full blown after he [[DarkestHour loses his powers and gets his identity outed]] in [[Comicbook/SupermanTruth the Truth storyline]] and [[UngratefulBastard half the population]] turns against him. His approval rating is now just ''twenty-five percent.''

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}:
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With the ''ComicBook/NewKrypton'' storyline, Superman, Supergirl, ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'', Nightwing, Flamebird, Valor, and their friends are lumped together with General Zod and the Kandorians in Earth's eyes.
* WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck's superhero alter ego, Paperinik, suffers from this in Comicbook/PaperinikNewAdventures, thanks to Angus Fangus, a low-life reporter who's decided to paint Paperinik as a menace to society for the sake of ratings. This mostly happens in his city, Duckburg; he has a pretty good reputation worldwide. All of this is {{Justified}}: the early stories of Paperinik made clear he was an hell of a criminal and TheDreaded, thus the people of Duckburg are ready to believe he just returned to his original ways, while people from outside Duckburg started hearing of him when he became a famous superhero and don't believe Angus.
* ComicBook/TheCreeper is often seen as a creep by the public and as an outright criminal by the police/other superheroes, but the twist is that he himself is more than willing to accuse and demonize the Creeper as Jack Ryder, his reporter/talk show host alter ego to lessen any suspicions that they might be connected. And Ryder is seen as an irritating TV menace on his own too.
* Franchise/TheGreenHornet actually invokes this. Since his day job consists of him being the owner and publisher of a major newspaper, Britt Reed, he constantly has his newspaper run stories about the Green Hornet being a dangerous criminal mastermind so he (as the Green Hornet) can infiltrate criminal gangs who assume he wants a cut of their operation.
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** In a complete 180 of his long held status, Franchise/{{Superman}} Superman in the Comicbook/{{New 52}} starts out as one of these (which is covered in ''ComicBook/ActionComics''.) )
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It becomes full blown after he [[DarkestHour loses his powers and gets his identity outed]] in [[Comicbook/SupermanTruth the Truth storyline]] ''Comicbook/SupermanTruth'' storyline and [[UngratefulBastard half the population]] turns against him. His approval rating is now dropped to just ''twenty-five percent.''


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* ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'':
** Confused and frightened, ''Comicbook/{{New 52}}'' ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' fought Superman when they first met; which didn't exactly make the public like her. She yo-yo's back and forth on this, though. Some remember her fight with the Worldkillers in New York and praise her as a hero. Others... not so much.
** In the ''Comicbook{{Supergirl}}'' story arc ''Comicbook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' -in which Supergirl became a Red Lantern- this was subverted when Superman and [[Franchise/GreenLantern Guy Gardner]] talked about Supergirl. Superman admitted that Justice League teammate Hal Jordan had nothing good to tell about the Red Lanterns (even when they try to be heroes, Red Lanterns are generally regarded as violent, dangerous, blood-thirsty sociopaths); but he added that he judges people based on what they do, not what people say about them, and he forms his own opinions.
* WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck's superhero alter ego, Paperinik, suffers from this in Comicbook/PaperinikNewAdventures, thanks to Angus Fangus, a low-life reporter who's decided to paint Paperinik as a menace to society for the sake of ratings. This mostly happens in his city, Duckburg; he has a pretty good reputation worldwide. All of this is {{Justified}}: the early stories of Paperinik made clear he was an hell of a criminal and TheDreaded, thus the people of Duckburg are ready to believe he just returned to his original ways, while people from outside Duckburg started hearing of him when he became a famous superhero and don't believe Angus.
* ComicBook/TheCreeper is often seen as a creep by the public and as an outright criminal by the police/other superheroes, but the twist is that he himself is more than willing to accuse and demonize the Creeper as Jack Ryder, his reporter/talk show host alter ego to lessen any suspicions that they might be connected. And Ryder is seen as an irritating TV menace on his own too.
* Franchise/TheGreenHornet actually invokes this. Since his day job consists of him being the owner and publisher of a major newspaper, Britt Reed, he constantly has his newspaper run stories about the Green Hornet being a dangerous criminal mastermind so he (as the Green Hornet) can infiltrate criminal gangs who assume he wants a cut of their operation.
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