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26th Jun '17 10:41:37 AM Fangusu
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* DesignatedHero: both want to be seen as the IdealHero, but the HeroWithAnFInGood honestly tries and fails, whereas the DesignatedHero does not care and still gets away with his laziness. Also, the DesignatedHero's flaws are only obvious to the audience, whereas the HeroWithAnFInGood's flaws are noticed by the other characters. The former character type is subjective, while the latter character type is objective.

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* DesignatedHero: both want to be seen as the IdealHero, but while the HeroWithAnFInGood honestly tries and fails, whereas the DesignatedHero does not care and still gets away with his their laziness. Also, Furthermore, the DesignatedHero's flaws are only obvious only to the audience, whereas the HeroWithAnFInGood's flaws are noticed by the other characters. The former character type is subjective, while the latter character type is objective.



* MrViceGuy: both are unapproachable because of being flawed, yet have good hearts. Unlike the MrViceGuy, however, the HeroWithAnFInGood is never excused for his flaws as they directly interfere with his status as a hero.
* NobleDemon: while the NobleDemon cultivates his negative reputation, the HeroWithAnFInGood dislikes his negative reputation. However, if the former character type does a HeelFaceTurn and realizes they do not know a thing about being a hero, they can become the latter character type.
* PunchClockVillain: neither character type is inherently malevolent; evil is just a job, but the HeroWithAnFInGood clearly hates this job, and does it because it is the only job that sufficiently pays the bills.
* VillainBallMagnet: it isn't the universe that paints the HeroWithAnFInGood as a villain, it's his own flaws.

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* MrViceGuy: both are unapproachable hard to approach at first because of being flawed, yet have good hearts. Unlike the MrViceGuy, however, the HeroWithAnFInGood is never excused for his their flaws as they directly interfere with his their status as a hero.
* NobleDemon: while the NobleDemon cultivates his their negative reputation, the HeroWithAnFInGood dislikes his their negative reputation. However, if the former character type does a HeelFaceTurn and realizes they do not know a thing about being a hero, they can become the latter character type.
* PunchClockVillain: neither character type is inherently malevolent; evil villainy is just a job, but job. However, the HeroWithAnFInGood clearly usually hates this job, and does it because it is the only job one that sufficiently pays the bills.
* VillainBallMagnet: it isn't the universe that paints the HeroWithAnFInGood as a villain, it's his it is their own flaws.



* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker in the prequel trilogy. He's brave and willing to risk himself for others, wants to do what's right, joins the foremost good guy organization... But he's impatient, uncontrolled, unable to accept his place and constantly tempted to just go ahead and (to sum up all the various temptations) do whatever he damn well feels like at the moment. When he does, it ends badly for everyone. After that he becomes an entirely different character who gets an A in Evil easily. Until the end of ''Return of the Jedi'', that is.



* ''Literature/ArtemisFowl'': For awhile, Artemis's HeelFaceTurn was impeded by his love of [[ThePlan devious plans]], until he realized that a {{Chessmaster}} doesn't have to be a villain.

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* ''Literature/ArtemisFowl'': For awhile, a while, Artemis's HeelFaceTurn was impeded by his love of [[ThePlan devious plans]], until he realized that a {{Chessmaster}} doesn't have to be a villain.
19th Jun '17 8:03:32 AM Kalaong
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* Skitter of ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' is a genuinely good and moral person, who wants to be a superhero, but, frankly, [[BadPowersGoodPeople her powers]](bug control) make "heroic" combat extremely counter-intuitive for her, and she finds that she's ''incredibly'' effective as a supervillain. She continues to try to help people, but as she steadily grows more brutal and gets into more frequent altercations with the heroes, she realizes that she's better off trying to do good by [[EvilPaysBetter putting the massive amounts of money she makes as a supervillain]] to work [[AHeroToHisHometown helping fix up her hometown.]]

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* Skitter of ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' is a genuinely good and moral person, who wants to be a superhero, but, frankly, [[BadPowersGoodPeople her powers]](bug control) make made "heroic" combat extremely counter-intuitive for her, and her even ''before'' she finds discovered her talent for PsychologicalCombat. She discovers ''very'' quickly that she's ''incredibly'' effective as a supervillain. She continues to try to help people, but as she steadily grows [[CombatPragmatist more brutal brutal]] and gets into more frequent altercations with the heroes, she realizes that she's better off trying to do good by [[EvilPaysBetter putting the massive amounts of money she makes as a supervillain]] to work [[AHeroToHisHometown helping fix up her hometown.]]
17th Jun '17 3:26:13 AM Jake
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* ''Literature/TheLostStars'', a spinoff of ''Liiterature/TheLostFleet'' series, gives us "Planetary CEO" turned President Gwen Iceni of the Midway star system. She led a successful coup d'etat against the brutally repressive [[OneNationUnderCopyright corporatist]] oligarchy known as the Syndicate Worlds in the first chapter of Volume 1, and then spent the rest of the book trying very hard to stop herself behaving like a brutally repressive oligarch out of sheer force of habit, and not always succeeding.
7th Jun '17 7:06:16 PM nombretomado
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* Captain Courage, of the WhateleyUniverse. He tries to be a hero, but he has so many illegitimate children and paternity suits that there are more wanted posters out for him than for most supervillains. In most places, he's now known as Captain Condom instead of his real codename.

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* Captain Courage, of the WhateleyUniverse.Literature/WhateleyUniverse. He tries to be a hero, but he has so many illegitimate children and paternity suits that there are more wanted posters out for him than for most supervillains. In most places, he's now known as Captain Condom instead of his real codename.
18th Mar '17 8:06:32 PM cybertoy0
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** Also, Klump in "Klump's Lumps"; when allowed to stay with the apes after being fired by King K.Rool, He proves to be just as big a bungler when it comes to doing them good as he was helping K.Rool's schemes.
4th Mar '17 8:04:24 AM Clockwork_Lemon
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* Katsuki Bakugou from ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'', was gifted with a [[SuperPowerLottery powerful quirk]], and has the ambition to become one of the greatest heroes, however he also has plenty of {{Jerkass}} tendencies that leave many wondering if he is fit to be a hero. [[spoiler: This eventually leads to him being kidnapped by the villain alliance because they think being a villain would fit him better.]]
10th Jan '17 10:18:27 PM bt8257
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Allowing them entry into a SuperHero organization, etc. could cause serious problems for the group's reputation, cohesiveness, etc., so instead they sometimes become {{Flanderized}} into a recurring IneffectualSympatheticVillain who the heroes can still count on when the BigBad crosses the MoralEventHorizon, because EveryoneHasStandards.

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Allowing them entry into a SuperHero organization, etc. could may cause serious problems for the group's reputation, cohesiveness, etc., so instead they sometimes become {{Flanderized}} into a recurring IneffectualSympatheticVillain who the heroes can still count on when the BigBad crosses the MoralEventHorizon, because EveryoneHasStandards.
1st Jan '17 10:02:25 PM Randallw201238
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* ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} in general. They are supposed to be a super police force to respond yo super human threats, but they regularly screw up, or make things worse, or were the cause of it from the beginning.

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* ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} in general. They are supposed to be a super police force to respond yo to super human threats, but they regularly screw up, or make things worse, or were the cause of it from the beginning.
7th Nov '16 7:15:18 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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In a very real sense, the entire point of the first trilogy is the psychological redemption of an utterly broken man into someone who can live with himself -- the first book setting him up as someone the audience very likely hates as a reflection of how badly he already hates ''himself''. And since the series very strongly straddles the line between reality and psychological allegory (and occasionally argues that both answers are valid), by definition saving the Land saves his own soul -- ''and vice-versa''.\\\

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In a very real sense, the entire point of the first trilogy is the psychological redemption of an utterly broken man into someone who can live with himself -- the first book setting him up as someone the audience very likely hates as a reflection of how badly he already hates ''himself''. And since the series very strongly straddles the line between reality and psychological allegory (and occasionally argues that both answers are valid), by definition saving the Land saves his own soul -- ''and vice-versa''.\\\
20th Oct '16 7:07:34 PM TheTropper
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* Coop of ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR''. He's a good guy, and far from incompetent (but still within view of it), he's just a DestructiveSavior to the nth degree. One episode dealt with some alien superheroes mistaking him for an outright villain, and their [[OmnicidalManiac nemesis]] thinking he was trying to pull an EvilerThanThou.

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* Coop of ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR''. He's a good guy, and far from incompetent (but still within view of it), he's just a DestructiveSavior to the nth ninth degree. One episode dealt with some alien superheroes mistaking him for an outright villain, and their [[OmnicidalManiac nemesis]] thinking he was trying to pull an EvilerThanThou.



* Jinx in ''Series/TeenTitans'' to an extent. Part of why she became a villain in the first place was because her power to screw everything up corresponded the most with villainy. By series' end, she pulls a HeelFaceTurn and gets it mostly right this time (only to go back to being evil in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'; though, she did have a fling with Cyborg for a while).

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* Jinx in ''Series/TeenTitans'' ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' to an extent. Part of why she became a villain in the first place was because her power to screw everything up corresponded the most with villainy. By series' end, she pulls a HeelFaceTurn and gets it mostly right this time (only to go back to being evil in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'; ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''; though, she did have a fling with Cyborg for a while).
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