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19th Oct '17 8:54:31 AM SkidTroper
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* Some Christian sects in the United States, such as those behind the Creation Museum (Answers in Genesis) believe that this was the literal truth. All animals before the Fall were friendly herbivores, with one diorama showing a ''T. rex'' chomping on pineapples and another section allowing visitors to pose on a large, saddled model of a ''Triceratops''. Likewise, the group maintains no animals were venomous before the Fall. The Texas-based Creation Evidence Museum believes the pre-Fall atmosphere made creatures live longer, made them more intelligent, and made them nicer. Commentary regarding their beliefs is probably subject to the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment.

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* Some Christian sects in the United States, such as those behind the Creation Museum (Answers in Genesis) believe that this was the literal truth. All truth of life on Earth pre-Fall. It's stated that animals before the Fall were friendly herbivores, with one herbivores (one diorama showing depicts a ''T. rex'' chomping on pineapples pineapples) and another section allowing visitors to pose on a large, saddled model that predation and carnivorism, being based in violence and killing, are by-products of a ''Triceratops''. Likewise, the group maintains no animals were venomous before the Fall. Fall. The Texas-based Creation Evidence Museum believes the pre-Fall atmosphere made creatures live longer, made them more intelligent, intelligent and thus made them nicer. Commentary regarding their beliefs is probably subject nicer. This have proven contentious, so any discussion of these views (positive or negative) best adhere to the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment.



* Species that evolved without predators are indeed often very docile. The Dodo of Mauritius evolved on an island without predators and was noted for having no fear or aggression toward humans, who promptly ate them into extinction. Herbivores species that evolved ''with'' predators, however, often avert this: while some herbivores will flee danger as a first resort, others can be very aggressive, and will often be the ones to attack first if threatened or surprised. Herbivores such as hippos, rhinos, bison and even cattle have well-deserved reputations for being dangerous to approach, and even deer can turn on you if you startle them.

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* Species that evolved living in an environment without predators are indeed often very docile. The Dodo of Mauritius evolved on an island without predators and was noted for having no fear or aggression toward humans, who promptly ate them into extinction. Herbivores Herbivorous species that evolved ''with'' are accustomed to the presence of predators, however, often avert this: while some herbivores will flee danger as a first resort, others can be very aggressive, and will often be the ones to attack first if threatened or surprised. Herbivores such as hippos, rhinos, bison and even cattle have well-deserved reputations for being dangerous to approach, and even deer can turn on you if you startle them.
20th Sep '17 11:48:03 PM BURGINABC
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* In ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'', [[FriendToAllLivingThings Snow White]] quickly gains the sympathy of a large group of WoodlandCreatures, who do everything they can to help her. Nearly all of them are herbivores, with the sole exception of a couple of raccoons (which are technically omnivores, and [[MisplacedWildlife don't even belong in Europe]]).

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* In ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'', [[FriendToAllLivingThings Snow White]] quickly gains the sympathy of a large group of WoodlandCreatures, who do everything they can to help her. Nearly all of them are herbivores, with the sole exception of a couple of raccoons (which raccoons[[note]] which are technically omnivores, and [[MisplacedWildlife don't even belong in Europe]]).Europe]][[/note]].
20th Sep '17 11:40:47 PM BURGINABC
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* Bullfighting is mostly based around ''averting'' this trope as hard as possible.
20th Sep '17 4:52:13 PM erana
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* Bullfighting is mostly based around ''averting'' this trope as hard as possible.
20th Sep '17 2:46:59 PM Fangusu
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Film/TempleGrandin's book, ''Animals in Translation'', explains that domesticated cattle can be a lot harder to handle compared to most wild felines. A bull or even a cow may attack a person in order to exert dominance, but a tiger will not do so unless its prey drive is triggered, being a solitary animal that doesn't care about social hierarchy.

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Film/TempleGrandin's book, ''Animals in Translation'', explains that domesticated cattle can be a lot harder to handle compared to most wild felines. A bull or even a cow may attack a person in order to exert dominance, but a tiger will not do so unless its prey drive is triggered, being as it is a solitary animal that doesn't does not care about social hierarchy.
6th Sep '17 1:16:30 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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Film/TempleGrandin's book, ''Animals in Translation'', explains that domesticated cattle can be a lot harder to handle compared to most wild felines. A bull or even a cow may attack a person in order to exert dominance, but a tiger will not do so unless its prey drive is triggered, because it does not care about social hierarchy.

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Film/TempleGrandin's book, ''Animals in Translation'', explains that domesticated cattle can be a lot harder to handle compared to most wild felines. A bull or even a cow may attack a person in order to exert dominance, but a tiger will not do so unless its prey drive is triggered, because it does not being a solitary animal that doesn't care about social hierarchy.
3rd Sep '17 8:50:22 AM Theriocephalus
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* Species that evolve without predators are indeed often very docile. The Dodo of Mauritius evolved on an island without predators and was noted for having no fear or aggression toward humans, who promptly ate them into extinction.

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* Species that evolve evolved without predators are indeed often very docile. The Dodo of Mauritius evolved on an island without predators and was noted for having no fear or aggression toward humans, who promptly ate them into extinction. Herbivores species that evolved ''with'' predators, however, often avert this: while some herbivores will flee danger as a first resort, others can be very aggressive, and will often be the ones to attack first if threatened or surprised. Herbivores such as hippos, rhinos, bison and even cattle have well-deserved reputations for being dangerous to approach, and even deer can turn on you if you startle them.
28th Aug '17 10:28:31 AM ElSquibbonator
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* In ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'', [[FriendToAllLivingThings Snow White]] quickly gains the sympathy of a large group of WoodlandCreatures, who do everything they can to help her. Nearly all of them are herbivores, with the sole exception of a couple of raccoons.

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* In ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'', [[FriendToAllLivingThings Snow White]] quickly gains the sympathy of a large group of WoodlandCreatures, who do everything they can to help her. Nearly all of them are herbivores, with the sole exception of a couple of raccoons.raccoons (which are technically omnivores, and [[MisplacedWildlife don't even belong in Europe]]).
10th Aug '17 7:22:01 PM Premonition45
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' often subvert this trope quite realistically. For example, in one episode Lisa tried to approach a herd of deer because they look harmless, but when she gets close enough they turn ferocious and try to attack her.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' often subvert this trope quite realistically. For example, in one episode realistically.
** In "Little Big Mom",
Lisa tried to approach a herd of deer because they look harmless, but when she gets close enough they turn ferocious and try to attack her.



** Doubly subverted in a school video starring Troy [=McClure=],[[note]]you might remember from such videos as “2-3=Negative Fun” and “Firecrackers: The Silent Killer”[[/note]] where he convinces Bobby[[note]]Jimmy[[/note]] that it’s okay to eat meat. [=McClure=] warns Jimmy that “if a cow had the chance he’d eat you and everyone you care about,” as ominous music plays and the camera zooms in on a cow’s face. However, the cow’s face is so placid, that the idea of a threatening cow seems ludicrous.

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** Doubly subverted in a school video starring Troy [=McClure=],[[note]]you [=McClure=] in "Lisa the Vegetarian",[[note]]you might remember from such videos as “2-3=Negative Fun” and “Firecrackers: The Silent Killer”[[/note]] where he convinces Bobby[[note]]Jimmy[[/note]] that it’s okay to eat meat. [=McClure=] warns Jimmy that “if a cow had the chance he’d eat you and everyone you care about,” as ominous music plays and the camera zooms in on a cow’s face. However, the cow’s face is so placid, that the idea of a threatening cow seems ludicrous.ludicrous.
** In "The Seemingly Never-Ending Story", [[NestedStory Lisa's story-within-the-story]] has her encountering a goat in the forest, hoping it'll be friendly to a fellow herbivore, until it chases her into Mr. Burns' mansion. [[DoubleSubversion It turns out it was trying to bring back her necklace which she'd lost in the woods]].
3rd Aug '17 4:04:16 PM Fangusu
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This trope and PredatorsAreMean are so strong culturally that people assume that many RealLife predators (whether omnivorous or carnivorous by nature) are mean, evil, and nasty, and all the herbivores are cute, cuddly, and friendly!

This is [[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs not true for the most part]]. For example, the [[CuteKitten common house cat]], one of the world's most popular pets, is carnivorous and the harmless whale shark, the gentlest of all sharks, is omnivorous. Inversely, the big herbivores are some of the most dangerous, surliest animals; [[KillerRabbit the loveable hippo and elephant]] are known for attacking and killing humans (even) without being provoked. In other words just because an animal won't ''eat'' you, doesn't mean it won't ''hurt'' you.

For example, Film/TempleGrandin's book ''Animals in Translation'' shows that, surprisingly, even the huge, social, herbivorous domestic cow can be more dangerous to handle than the large, largely solitary, predatory tiger is. A cow or bull can attack a person out of dominance, but a tiger won't because they don't care about constant jostling within a social hierarchy. You obviously have to be ''extremely'' careful not to trigger any big cat's prey drive, but there isn't any dominance aggression.

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This trope and PredatorsAreMean are so strong culturally that people assume that many RealLife predators (whether omnivorous or carnivorous by nature) are mean, evil, and nasty, and all the herbivores are cute, cuddly, and friendly!

friendly.

This trope is [[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs not true TruthInTelevision for the most part]]. For example, the [[CuteKitten common house cat]], one of the world's part. The most popular pets, is carnivorous dangerous animals in the world are actually big herbivores; the hippopotamus and the harmless whale shark, the gentlest of all sharks, is omnivorous. Inversely, the big herbivores are some of the most dangerous, surliest animals; [[KillerRabbit the loveable hippo and elephant]] elephant are known for attacking to attack and killing kill humans (even) even without being provoked. In other words words, just because an animal won't ''eat'' you, doesn't mean it won't ''hurt'' you.

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you. Conversely, house cats and domesticated dogs are inherently carnivorous, while the omnivorous whale shark is never a threat to humans.

Film/TempleGrandin's book book, ''Animals in Translation'' shows that, surprisingly, even the huge, social, herbivorous domestic cow Translation'', explains that domesticated cattle can be more dangerous a lot harder to handle than the large, largely solitary, predatory tiger is. compared to most wild felines. A cow or bull can or even a cow may attack a person out of in order to exert dominance, but a tiger won't will not do so unless its prey drive is triggered, because they don't it does not care about constant jostling within a social hierarchy. You obviously have to be ''extremely'' careful not to trigger any big cat's prey drive, but there isn't any dominance aggression.
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