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30th Jul '17 12:50:29 PM Anderling
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* '''Agnatic-Cognatic Succession''': Women may inherit if there are no suitable make heir.

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* '''Agnatic-Cognatic Succession''': Women may inherit if there are is no suitable make male heir.
28th Jul '17 5:02:47 AM ErikModi
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* Averted in TabletopGame/BattleTech. The Successor States don't seem to care what gender their rulers are, so long as they have the right last name. Famously, Katrina Steiner was one of the Lyran Commonwealth's best and most beloved leaders, and her daughter Melissa inherited the title (though she also married Hanse Davion, ruled of the Federated Suns, making them joint rulers of the combined Federated Commonwealth). Hanse and Melissa name their eldest son, Victor Ian-Steiner Davion, as their heir, but that has more to do with him being firstborn. Their eldest daughter, Katherine (who later changed her name to Katrina) eventually takes the Lyran half of the Federated Commonwealth independent and rules it for several years before sneaking in behind Victor's back and ruling the Suns half as well, which is technically illegal. Not because she's a woman, but because she didn't undergo the five years of military service required for anyone to assume the title of First Prince.
** Thomas Marik also recognized his illegitimate daughter Isis as a potential heir when his legitimate, male heir developed severe leukemia.

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* Averted in TabletopGame/BattleTech. The Successor States don't seem to care what gender their rulers are, so long as they have the right last name. Famously, Katrina Steiner was one of the Lyran Commonwealth's best and most beloved leaders, and her daughter Melissa inherited the title (though she also married Hanse Davion, ruled ruler of the Federated Suns, making them joint rulers of the combined Federated Commonwealth). Hanse and Melissa name their eldest son, Victor Ian-Steiner Davion, as their heir, but that has more to do with him being firstborn. Their eldest daughter, Katherine (who later changed her name to Katrina) eventually takes the Lyran half of the Federated Commonwealth independent and rules it for several years before sneaking in behind Victor's back and ruling the Suns half as well, which is technically illegal. Not because she's a woman, but because she didn't undergo the five years of military service required for anyone to assume the title of First Prince.
Prince of the Federated Suns.
** Thomas Marik also recognized his illegitimate daughter Isis as a potential heir when his legitimate, male heir developed severe leukemia. While his son's [[spoiler: eventually terminal]] illness forced his hand, his reasons for keeping Isis illegitimate as long as possible had nothing to do with her gender.
28th Jul '17 4:58:54 AM ErikModi
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28th Jul '17 4:57:54 AM ErikModi
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* Averted in TabletopGame/BattleTech. The Successor States don't seem to care what gender their rulers are, so long as they have the right last name. Famously, Katrina Steiner was one of the Lyran Commonwealth's best and most beloved leaders, and her daughter Melissa inherited the title (though she also married Hanse Davion, ruled of the Federated Suns, making them joint rulers of the combined Federated Commonwealth). Hanse and Melissa name their eldest son, Victor Ian-Steiner Davion, as their heir, but that has more to do with him being firstborn. Their eldest daughter, Katherine (who later changed her name to Katrina) eventually takes the Lyran half of the Federated Commonwealth independent and rules it for several years before sneaking in behind Victor's back and ruling the Suns half as well, which is technically illegal. Not because she's a woman, but because she didn't undergo the five years of military service required for anyone to assume the title of First Prince.
** Thomas Marik also recognized his illegitimate daughter Isis as a potential heir when his legitimate, male heir developed severe leukemia.
** The Celestial Throne of the Capellan Confederation came to Romano Liao after Maxmillian Liao's death, even though Romano was Maxmillian's younger daughter. His older daughter, Candace, [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere left the Confederation to rule the St. Ives' Compact, an independent state carved out of the Confederation by the Federated Commonwealth's trouncing of the Confederation in the Fourth Succession War.]]
** The Draconis Combine seems to play this straight, which is fitting since they are generally portrayed as the most conservative and tradition-bound realm in the setting. Theodore Kurita's son, Hohiro, is set to rule the Combine after his father's (and grandfather's) death, while his sister, Omi, is set to become Keeper of the House Honor. It's not a true leadership position, but ''does'' grant a measure of political power, including advising the actual (male) ruler.
10th Jul '17 12:49:54 PM Monolaf317
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9th Jul '17 3:31:34 PM MarkLungo
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* In ''Anime/Acca13TerritoryInspectionDept'', Prince Schwan is regarded as the heir because he is the only (known) son of the king's daughters. [[spoiler: When he realizes Lotta is his cousin, he doesn't care, because she is a girl... until Magie tells him Lotta has a brother.]]

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* In ''Anime/Acca13TerritoryInspectionDept'', ''Manga/Acca13TerritoryInspectionDept'', Prince Schwan is regarded as the heir because he is the only (known) son of the king's daughters. [[spoiler: When he realizes Lotta is his cousin, he doesn't care, because she is a girl... until Magie tells him Lotta has a brother.]]



* Miroku of ''Anime/InuYasha'' needs to perpetuate his line (with a son) before the affliction that plagues all men in his family kills him. He attempts to do so by propositioning '''every''' girl he meets. [[spoiler:He loses the affliction before the end of the story but has at least three kids anyway with Sango, and one's a boy]].

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* Miroku of ''Anime/InuYasha'' ''Manga/InuYasha'' needs to perpetuate his line (with a son) before the affliction that plagues all men in his family kills him. He attempts to do so by propositioning '''every''' girl he meets. [[spoiler:He loses the affliction before the end of the story but has at least three kids anyway with Sango, and one's a boy]].
4th Jul '17 2:17:56 PM angie710
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** Even earlier than that, this was the idea behind the custom that if a man died without any heirs, his widow was to be married off to his brother (whether she wanted to or not), and their first son would carry on the deceased man's lineage. This becomes a major plot point in the Literature/BookOfGenesis, when Tamar's husband dies. She marries his brother (as per custom), but he always pulls out because he doesn't want to do his duty, and dies. Next in line is a boy named Shelah, who is conveniently not old enough for marriage yet. Her father-in-law Judah, believing Tamar to be [[CartwrightCurse cursed]], tells her to move back in with her parents and wait until Shelah is old enough, which she does. After the TimeSkip, it's revealed that Shelah has been secretly married off to another girl, and there are no more brothers Tamar can marry. So, in response, Tamar disguises herself as a shrine prostitute, and sleeps with Judah, making sure to take his seal, cord, and staff as collateral. Three months later, when her pregnancy begins to show, and Judah sentences her to be burned to death for engaging in illicit sex (thus shaming the family), she reveals that the father is the owner of these items. Judah recognizes what she did, and [[LastMinuteReprieve spares her life]].
4th Jul '17 12:41:15 PM angie710
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* In the Literature/BookOfExodus, two women come to Moses with a problem. Their wealthy father has just died, and they have no brothers and are not married, but it's accepted in this society that women cannot inherit property or titles. Moses thinks for a minute, and comes up with a solution that's pretty FairForItsDay: they ''can'' inherit their father's property, but they must marry men from their own tribe. (Note that this only applied in cases like the above, where there were no sons or sons-in-law to be the inheritors; if they had a brother, or if these women were married, the property would go to their brothers or to their husbands, not them.) And if they had sons later, the property would be passed onto them.
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21st Jun '17 3:40:08 PM Eievie
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** '''Agnatic Succession''': When there is no male [[RoyalBlood heir]] ''there is no heir''.

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** * '''Agnatic Succession''': When there is no male [[RoyalBlood heir]] ''there is no heir''.
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