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30th Nov '16 4:44:54 AM Clare
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* Enforced in universe in ''[[Literature/EarthsChildren The Clan of the Cave Bear]]''. Since Clan women are inherently incapable of leadership, each clan is led by a man who invariably passes the leadership on to another male. The new leader is traditionally the oldest son of the previous leader, though there are exceptions. For example, Creb is the oldest son of a leader, but, because he is crippled and therefore unable to truly become a man in the eyes of the Clan, he has instead become his clan's Mog-ur (shaman), while his younger brother, Brun, is leader of the clan.

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* Enforced in universe in-universe in ''[[Literature/EarthsChildren The Clan of the Cave Bear]]''. Since Clan women are inherently incapable of leadership, each clan is led by a man who invariably passes the leadership on to another male. The new leader is traditionally the oldest son of the previous leader, though there are exceptions. For example, Creb is the oldest son of a leader, but, because he is crippled and therefore unable to truly become a man in the eyes of the Clan, he has instead become his clan's Mog-ur (shaman), while his younger brother, Brun, is leader of the clan.
30th Nov '16 4:42:06 AM Clare
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* Enforced in universe in ''[[Literature/EarthsChildren The Clan of the Cave Bear]]''. Since Clan women are inherently incapable of leadership, each clan is led by a man who invariably passes the leadership on to another male. The new leader is traditionally the oldest son of the previous leader, though there are exceptions. For example, Creb is the oldest son of a leader, but, because he is crippled and therefore unable to truly become a man in the eyes of the Clan, he has instead become his clan's Mog-ur (shaman), while his younger brother, Brun, is leader of the clan.
** On the other hand, Clan men lack the racial memories of healing plants which medicine women possess, resulting in an [[GenderInvertedTrope Heir Club for Women]], in which each medicine woman passes on her knowledge only to her daughters.
19th Nov '16 1:43:01 PM Berrenta
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--->'''Marge:''' Sweetie, sometimes a daddy and a mommy decide to live apart. It's not your fault. [[NoExceptYes It's just that you came out the wrong sex and ruined everything.]]\\

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--->'''Marge:''' Sweetie, sometimes a daddy and a mommy decide to live apart. It's not your fault. [[NoExceptYes [[DistinctionWithoutADifference It's just that you came out the wrong sex and ruined everything.]]\\
18th Nov '16 7:21:18 PM H.TorranceGriffin
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*** Much like the Kingdom of Hanover decades earlier, the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was obliged to break off a Personal Union in 1890 due to Salic Law. King Willem III of the Netherlands was succeeded upon his death by his 10 year old daughter, while Grand Duke Guillaume III of Luxembourg was succeeded by his 73 year old 17th cousin once removed [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Adolf/Adolphe]] (the dispossessed Duke of Nassau). Of course, when Adolph's only surviving son Guillaume IV had nothing but daughters he chucked Salic Succession anyway leaving his throne to 17 year old Marie-Adélaïde in 1912.
23rd Oct '16 1:48:08 PM Morgenthaler
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* Parodied in [[http://www.theonion.com/content/news/clinton_chastises_hillary_for this article]] in ''TheOnion''. This is HilariousInHindsight now that Hillary herself is (barring health problems) considered the Democratic frontrunner to succeed UsefulNotes/BarackObama in 2016 (to say nothing of her run in 2008) and may be positioning herself to run as "President Grandma."

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* Parodied in [[http://www.theonion.com/content/news/clinton_chastises_hillary_for this article]] in ''TheOnion''.''Website/TheOnion''. This is HilariousInHindsight now that Hillary herself is (barring health problems) considered the Democratic frontrunner to succeed UsefulNotes/BarackObama in 2016 (to say nothing of her run in 2008) and may be positioning herself to run as "President Grandma."
10th Oct '16 9:45:04 AM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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'''King:''' A GIRL? What SORCERY is this? That white which must have CURSED me!

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'''King:''' A GIRL? What SORCERY is this? That white which witch must have CURSED me!
10th Oct '16 9:40:16 AM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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If the King has no son, or circumstances seem to be making that problematic, the courtiers may get into the act. A Succession Crisis can be unpleasant all around. This is done commonly with a grieving widow Queen or widower King, who is likely to be told YouHaveWaitedLongEnough with great promptness.

Even in the fortunate case where the King has a healthy male heir, this only secures the monarchy for one generation. As soon as that son comes of age, he will start feeling pressure to [[IWantGrandkids marry and produce an heir of his own]]. Furthermore only one child is dangerous; surely you need [[SpareToTheThrone at least two]] to guard against tragedy. This is one of the few situations where either MyBiologicalClockIsTicking or IWantGrandkids is likely to [[AlwaysFemale apply to a male character]].

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If the King has no son, son or circumstances seem to be making that problematic, the courtiers may get into the act. A Succession Crisis can be unpleasant all around. This is done commonly with a grieving widow Queen or widower King, who is likely to be told YouHaveWaitedLongEnough with great promptness.

Even in the fortunate case where the King has a healthy male heir, this only secures the monarchy for one generation. As soon as that son comes of age, he will start feeling pressure to [[IWantGrandkids marry and produce an heir of his own]]. Furthermore Furthermore, only one child is dangerous; surely you need [[SpareToTheThrone at least two]] to guard against tragedy. This is one of the few situations where either MyBiologicalClockIsTicking or IWantGrandkids is likely to [[AlwaysFemale apply to a male character]].



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** Needing a male heir, in particular a biological one, is the source of much of the trouble related to adopted child Amon in ''Anime/YuGiOhGX''. Like Rishid, Amon was adopted by the Garams to be their heir after he was abandoned by his biological family and felt he had nothing to live for. Then the Garams have a young son, Shido, who becomes the heir and Amon is expected to essentially do everything in his power to support Shido.
* Miroku of ''Anime/InuYasha'' needs to perpetuate his line (with a son) before the affliction that plagues all men in his family kills him. He attempts to do so by propositioning '''every''' girl he meets. [[spoiler:He loses the affliction before the end of the story, but has at least three kids anyway with Sango, and one's a boy]].

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** Needing a male heir, in particular particular, a biological one, is the source of much of the trouble related to adopted child Amon in ''Anime/YuGiOhGX''. Like Rishid, Amon was adopted by the Garams to be their heir after he was abandoned by his biological family and felt he had nothing to live for. Then the Garams have a young son, Shido, who becomes the heir and Amon is expected to essentially do everything in his power to support Shido.
* Miroku of ''Anime/InuYasha'' needs to perpetuate his line (with a son) before the affliction that plagues all men in his family kills him. He attempts to do so by propositioning '''every''' girl he meets. [[spoiler:He loses the affliction before the end of the story, story but has at least three kids anyway with Sango, and one's a boy]].



* The aversion of this trope forms the basis of ''LightNovel/TheAmbitionOfOdaNobuna''; its AlternateUniverse version of [[JidaiGeki sengoku period]] practices equal primogeniture which justified its {{gender flip}}ping some historical figures but nor others.

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* The aversion of this trope forms the basis of ''LightNovel/TheAmbitionOfOdaNobuna''; its AlternateUniverse version of [[JidaiGeki sengoku Sengoku period]] practices equal primogeniture which justified its {{gender flip}}ping some historical figures but nor others.



* ''ComicBook/TheInvisibles'': Transvestite shaman Lord Fanny was born a boy in a family with a long line of ''brujas''. After his mother's second attempt to have a child ended in a miscarriage, his grandmother ordered him to be raised as a girl. Fortunately, Fanny took quickly to crossdressing, and ably took up the family tradition.

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* ''ComicBook/TheInvisibles'': Transvestite shaman Lord Fanny was born a boy in a family with a long line of ''brujas''. After his mother's second attempt to have a child ended in a miscarriage, his grandmother ordered him to be raised as a girl. Fortunately, Fanny took quickly to crossdressing, crossdressing and ably took up the family tradition.



* What about ComicStrip/ThePhantom, Lee Falk's masked hero? The current Phantom is number 21. Both the suit and the title always go from father to son. The chances of 21 generations conceiving only male heirs (and only one male heir, because there's never any mention about secondary sons) aren't exactly very high. One historical Phantom did a have a daughter though - she worked a while as a female Phantom until her brother took the mask. There's never any mention about any other close relatives as well. Of course, every Phantom needs not just to conceive a male heir, he also has to survive just long enough for his son to grow up. Once his son is old enough (16-20), the old Phantom conveniently kicks the bucket so his son can swear revenge and become the next Phantom. There's no retirement house in Florida for Phantom senior, because every Phantom beyond 40-50 years is most likely dead.

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* What about ComicStrip/ThePhantom, Lee Falk's masked hero? The current Phantom is number 21. Both the suit and the title always go from father to son. The chances of 21 generations conceiving only male heirs (and only one male heir, because there's never any mention about of secondary sons) aren't exactly very high. One historical Phantom did a have a daughter daughter, though - she worked a while as a female Phantom until her brother took the mask. There's never any mention about any other close relatives as well. Of course, every Phantom needs not just to conceive a male heir, he also has to survive just long enough for his son to grow up. Once his son is old enough (16-20), the old Phantom conveniently kicks the bucket so his son can swear revenge and become the next Phantom. There's no retirement house in Florida for Phantom senior, senior because every Phantom beyond 40-50 years is most likely dead.



* A [[FandomSpecificPlot common]] [[WildMassGuessing fan theory]] for why [[Disney/TheLionKing Scar]] chose Kovu as his heir is that Nuka was too weak and idiotic and Vitani was female. It's actually a major plot point in the third part of the fan webcomic, ''[[http://savu0211.deviantart.com/gallery/25272699 The Relatives of the King]]'', where Zira and Scar keep having cubs in an effort to produce a strong, male heir. [[spoiler:In the end, they just end up adopting (or more accuratly stealing) Kovu and proclaiming him next in line.]]

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* A [[FandomSpecificPlot common]] [[WildMassGuessing fan theory]] for why [[Disney/TheLionKing Scar]] chose Kovu as his heir is that Nuka was too weak and idiotic and Vitani was female. It's actually a major plot point in the third part of the fan webcomic, ''[[http://savu0211.deviantart.com/gallery/25272699 The Relatives of the King]]'', where Zira and Scar keep having cubs in an effort to produce a strong, male heir. [[spoiler:In the end, they just end up adopting (or more accuratly accurately stealing) Kovu and proclaiming him next in line.]]



-->'''King:''' ''(as servant brings the baby)'' I have no doubt it's a prince this time! You will bow to him, daughters, for he is SUPERIOR!
-->''(unwraps the baby on-screen, vagina ensues)''
-->'''King:''' A GIRL? What SORCERY is this? That white which must have CURSED me!

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-->'''King:''' ''(as servant brings the baby)'' I have no doubt it's a prince this time! You will bow to him, daughters, for he is SUPERIOR!
-->''(unwraps
SUPERIOR!\\
''(unwraps
the baby on-screen, vagina ensues)''
-->'''King:'''
ensues)''\\
'''King:'''
A GIRL? What SORCERY is this? That white which must have CURSED me!



* In the Soviet film ''Film/UnbelievableAdventuresOfItaliansInRussia'', an Italian mafioso has half a dozen daughters and not a single son. Being a traditionalist, he wants a male heir and is desperately hoping that his currently-pregnant wife finally produces one. At the end of the film, he receives the news... it's another girl. He's not happy.

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* In the Soviet film ''Film/UnbelievableAdventuresOfItaliansInRussia'', an Italian mafioso has half a dozen daughters and not a single son. Being a traditionalist, he wants a male heir and is desperately hoping that his currently-pregnant currently pregnant wife finally produces one. At the end of the film, he receives the news... it's another girl. He's not happy.



* Creator/JaneAusten
** One of the major plot motivators in ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'' is the Bennetts' lack of a male heir. Their family estate is entailed, which means that it is bound legally to be inherited by the next male relative in the family line. It's their distant cousin, Mr Collins. He kind of felt for the Bennet sisters and proposed to one of them; however, she didn't want to marry a stupid and obnoxious person because of property.

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* Creator/JaneAusten
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** One of the major plot motivators in ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'' is the Bennetts' lack of a male heir. Their family estate is entailed, which means that it is bound legally to be inherited by the next male relative in the family line. It's their distant cousin, Mr Collins. He kind of felt for the Bennet sisters and proposed to one of them; however, she didn't want to marry a stupid and obnoxious person because of property.



* A subversion occurs in ''Series/{{Farscape}}''. The crew lands on a Sebacean breakaway colony where succession goes to the eldest child regardless of gender, but the law states that a husband and wife must rule together. As such, the princess cannot become empress unless she finds a male who can give her children before she reaches a certain birth day (and, due to some gene poisoning by her brother, only Crichton fits the bill.)

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* A subversion occurs in ''Series/{{Farscape}}''. The crew lands on a Sebacean breakaway colony where succession goes to the eldest child regardless of gender, but the law states that a husband and wife must rule together. As such, the princess cannot become empress unless she finds a male who can give her children before she reaches a certain birth day birthday (and, due to some gene poisoning by her brother, only Crichton fits the bill.)



** This doesn't stop Margot however, since in season 3 [[spoiler: with Hannibal's help she gets hold of Mason's sperm and her wife Alana uses it to become pregnant and give birth to a son.]]

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** This doesn't stop Margot however, however since in season 3 [[spoiler: with Hannibal's help she gets hold of Mason's sperm and her wife Alana uses it to become pregnant and give birth to a son.]]






--->'''Marge:''' Sweetie, sometimes a daddy and a mommy decide to live apart. It's not your fault. [[NoExceptYes It's just that you came out the wrong sex and ruined everything.]]
---> '''Homer:''' So grow a penis or get lost.
--->'''Lisa:''' (grunts and struggles) I can't.
--->'''Homer:''' Bye bye!
--->'''Lisa:''' Well why can't your heir be female? Or why can't we elect our leaders?
--->'''Homer:''' I wonder if I could [[YouKeepUsingThatWord canonize]] a child?
--->'''Lisa:''' Leaving!

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--->'''Marge:''' Sweetie, sometimes a daddy and a mommy decide to live apart. It's not your fault. [[NoExceptYes It's just that you came out the wrong sex and ruined everything.]]
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]]\\
'''Homer:''' So grow a penis or get lost.
--->'''Lisa:'''
lost.\\
'''Lisa:'''
(grunts and struggles) I can't.
--->'''Homer:'''
can't.\\
'''Homer:'''
Bye bye!
--->'''Lisa:'''
bye!\\
'''Lisa:'''
Well why can't your heir be female? Or why can't we elect our leaders?
--->'''Homer:'''
leaders?\\
'''Homer:'''
I wonder if I could [[YouKeepUsingThatWord canonize]] a child?
--->'''Lisa:'''
child?\\
'''Lisa:'''
Leaving!



*** While spain tries to get absolute primogeniture, there is already a law that states that when a new King accends, and a new Prince of Asturias (heir pressumptive) is appointed, nothing can move them from there. So, once a Princess of Asturias is appointed, she is the heir even if new brothers appear later on (which is still possible with the young King Felipe VI).

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*** While spain Spain tries to get absolute primogeniture, there is already a law that states that when a new King accends, ascends and a new Prince of Asturias (heir pressumptive) presumptive) is appointed, nothing can move them from there. So, once a Princess of Asturias is appointed, she is the heir even if new brothers appear later on (which is still possible with the young King Felipe VI).



* In Japan, there was a decades-long controversy about there not being a suitable male heir to inherit the imperial throne, to the point that a constitutional amendment was in the works to allow at least partial female inheritance. Fortunately(?) Princess Akishino gave birth to a boy, meaning that the question was staved off for at least another generation. The Crown Princess was not seen in the public after 2002 to seek treatment from adjustment disorder with her husband Crown Prince Naruhito issuing statements that he's concerned with the health of his wife. The remarks unfortunately earned the crown prince rebukes from Emperor Akihito and Prince Akishino while the comments became part of the debate on whether females can really ascend the throne.

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* In Japan, there was a decades-long controversy about there not being a suitable male heir to inherit the imperial throne, to the point that a constitutional amendment was in the works to allow at least partial female inheritance. Fortunately(?) Princess Akishino gave birth to a boy, meaning that the question was staved off for at least another generation. The Crown Princess was not seen in the public after 2002 to seek treatment from for adjustment disorder with her husband Crown Prince Naruhito issuing statements that he's concerned with the health of his wife. The remarks unfortunately earned the crown prince rebukes from Emperor Akihito and Prince Akishino while the comments became part of the debate on whether females can really ascend the throne.
9th Oct '16 5:12:13 AM Mhazard
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* In Hong Kong, according to Small House Policy, the indigenous villagers can build small houses in the New Territories, which is known as the "Ding House", each owner has the "Ding Right", a right to construct and pass the lands to their male heirs, this right cannot be passed to their daughters since by Chinese tradition, a clan's legacy can only be succeeded by the male heirs.
1st Oct '16 9:23:45 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/{{Attila}}'': Emperor Valentinian sits on the Roman throne despite being something of a halfwit controlled by an EvilMatriarch. His much brighter sister Honoria laments the fact that she can't rule because she's a woman.

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* ''Series/{{Attila}}'': Emperor Valentinian sits on the Roman throne despite being something of a halfwit controlled by an EvilMatriarch. His much brighter sister Honoria laments the fact that she can't rule because she's a woman.woman and later attempts to [[TheStarscream overthrow him]] in a failed plot.
30th Sep '16 9:47:11 AM Gowan
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* In ''Literature/TheGoblinEmperor'', this drives most of the plot. The elven emperor was very dutiful in begetting sons; he not only divorced one wife for barrenness, he also produced a total of four sons with different wives. Only because those three sons and he himself die in an airship accident does his half-goblin son Maia inherit the throne. And is then promptly told by his advisors that he has to produce a male heir. Maia agrees that arranging a marriage for him is the wisest course of action, but does not manage to get really enthusiastic about it, and at one point invalidates his own claim to the throne by calling the barren ex-wife of his father "zhasanai", a title reserved for the emperor's ''widow''. As he already has an underage nephew who could inherit the throne after him, producing a male heir is less about securing that there is a heir, and more about making sure that those who would like to see his nephew on the throne don't just have to murder ''him'' to get there.



* In ''Literature/TheGoblinEmperor'', this drives most of the plot. The elven emperor was very dutiful in begetting sons; he not only divorced one wife for barrenness, he also produced a total of four sons with different wives. Only because those three sons and he himself die in an airship accident does his half-goblin son Maia inherit the throne. And is then promptly told by his advisors that he has to produce a male heir. Maia agrees that arranging a marriage for him is the wisest course of action, but does not manage to get really enthusiastic about it, and at one point invalidates his own claim to the throne by calling the barren ex-wife of his father "zhasanai", a title reserved for the emperor's ''widow''. As he already has an underage nephew who could inherit the throne after him, producing a male heir is less about securing that there is a heir, and more about making sure that those who would like to see his nephew on the throne don't just have to murder ''him'' to get there.

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* In ''Literature/TheGoblinEmperor'', this drives most of the plot. The elven emperor was very dutiful in begetting sons; he not only divorced one wife for barrenness, he also produced a total of four sons with different wives. Only because those three sons and he himself die in an airship accident does his half-goblin son Maia inherit the throne. And is then promptly told by his advisors that he has to produce a male heir. Maia agrees that arranging a marriage for him is the wisest course of action, but does not manage to get really enthusiastic about it, and at one point invalidates his own claim to the throne by calling the barren ex-wife of his father "zhasanai", a title reserved for the emperor's ''widow''. As he already has an underage nephew who could inherit the throne after him, producing a male heir is less about securing that there is a heir, and more about making sure that those who would like to see his nephew on the throne don't just have to murder ''him'' to get there.
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