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11th Jan '17 5:42:17 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{lonelygirl15}}'': How many times did [[spoiler:Gemma]] either change sides or turn out not to have changed sides after all? In a relatively small amount of appearances, at that? Granted, this doesn't seem to have been a result of lazy or inconsistent writing - the woman just couldn't commit.
** There's also [[spoiler:Sarah]]. In her first appearance, she appeared to be a villain when she held the heroes at gunpoint; but then she sided with the heroes; but then she got brainwashed by the villains; but then the heroes rescued her from the brainwashing; but then it turned out she'd actually been working for the villains all along; but no, wait, she was ''actually'' being blackmailed that time, she's really on the heroes' side; and now, the sequel series ''lg15: the Resistance'' has her once more turning out to really, actually, honest to God, this time we mean it, have been on the villains' side all along.

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* ''{{lonelygirl15}}'': ''WebVideo/Lonelygirl15'':
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How many times did [[spoiler:Gemma]] either change sides or turn out not to have changed sides after all? In a relatively small amount of appearances, at that? Granted, this doesn't seem to have been a result of lazy or inconsistent writing - the woman just couldn't commit.
** There's also [[spoiler:Sarah]]. In her first appearance, she appeared to be a villain when she held the heroes at gunpoint; but then she sided with the heroes; but then she got brainwashed by the villains; but then the heroes rescued her from the brainwashing; but then it turned out she'd actually been working for the villains all along; but no, wait, she was ''actually'' being blackmailed that time, she's really on the heroes' side; and now, the sequel series ''lg15: the Resistance'' has her once more turning out to really, actually, honest to God, this time we mean it, have been on the villains' side all along.



* Happens with Julie Mikan in ''SurvivalOfTheFittest''. She undergoes a FaceHeelTurn at the very start whilst deciding to play, killing Owen Fontaine gives her a HeelFaceTurn and a HeroicBSOD, before a few days later, she once again decides to play, becoming a 'heel' for the second time.

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* Happens with Julie Mikan in ''SurvivalOfTheFittest''.''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest''. She undergoes a FaceHeelTurn at the very start whilst deciding to play, killing Owen Fontaine gives her a HeelFaceTurn and a HeroicBSOD, before a few days later, she once again decides to play, becoming a 'heel' for the second time.
26th Dec '16 4:19:31 PM FordPrefect
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* Wrestling/KurtAngle is also notorious for turning about once a year. The problem with him is that he is most effective playing a heel, but his immense wrestling talent, the gold medal, and all around [=Badass=] qualities sometimes result in Face reactions even when playing a heel, thus resulting in the bookers [[HeelFaceTurn turning him face]]. Then he does his [[AllAmericanFace bland face routine]] until his crowd reactions wane, and [[FaceHeelTurn then he turns heel again]]. This effect was {{lampshaded}} during an interview [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ydZDLLtp8Y where he denounced "the black people and Jesus" to prove that he would still get cheered]] (he was right).

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* Wrestling/KurtAngle is also notorious for turning about once a year. The problem with him is that he is most effective playing a heel, but his immense wrestling talent, the gold medal, and all around [=Badass=] qualities sometimes result in Face reactions even when playing a heel, thus resulting in the bookers [[HeelFaceTurn turning him face]]. Then he does his [[AllAmericanFace bland face routine]] until his crowd reactions wane, and [[FaceHeelTurn then he turns heel again]]. This effect was {{lampshaded}} during an interview [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ydZDLLtp8Y where he denounced "the black people people" and Jesus" Jesus to prove that he would still get cheered]] (he was right).
26th Dec '16 4:19:13 PM FordPrefect
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* Wrestling/KurtAngle is also notorious for turning about once a year. The problem with him is that he is most effective playing a heel, but his immense wrestling talent, the gold medal, and all around [=Badass=] qualities sometimes result in Face reactions even when playing a heel, thus resulting in the bookers [[HeelFaceTurn turning him face]]. Then he does his [[AllAmericanFace bland face routine]] until his crowd reactions wane, and [[FaceHeelTurn then he turns heel again]]. This effect was {{lampshaded}} during an interview [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ydZDLLtp8Y where he denounced all black people and Jesus, and still got cheered.]]

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* Wrestling/KurtAngle is also notorious for turning about once a year. The problem with him is that he is most effective playing a heel, but his immense wrestling talent, the gold medal, and all around [=Badass=] qualities sometimes result in Face reactions even when playing a heel, thus resulting in the bookers [[HeelFaceTurn turning him face]]. Then he does his [[AllAmericanFace bland face routine]] until his crowd reactions wane, and [[FaceHeelTurn then he turns heel again]]. This effect was {{lampshaded}} during an interview [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ydZDLLtp8Y where he denounced all "the black people and Jesus, and Jesus" to prove that he would still got cheered.]]get cheered]] (he was right).
30th Oct '16 9:25:13 AM Prometheus117
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': Characteristic of human/[[OurElvesAreBetter Eldar]] relations. The Eldar will often jump in and aid humans if they have a mutual enemy, especially seeing as they usually lack the firepower and numbers (though not necessarily the technology and skill) to adequately deal with things like [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orks]], [[RobotWar Necrons]] and [[BugWar Tyranids]], but being the [[MagnificentBastard sneaky bastards]] they are, they view their human "allies" as little more than [[UnwittingPawn pawns to be used]], and see nothing wrong with betraying them the moment it becomes convenient. After all, [[MoralMyopia they would rather allow thousands of humans to die than one of their own kind]].

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': Characteristic of human/[[OurElvesAreBetter Eldar]] relations. The Eldar will often jump in and aid humans if they have a mutual enemy, especially seeing as they usually lack the firepower and numbers (though not necessarily the technology and skill) to adequately deal with things like [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orks]], [[RobotWar Necrons]] and [[BugWar Tyranids]], but being the [[MagnificentBastard sneaky bastards]] they are, they view their human "allies" as little more than [[UnwittingPawn pawns to be used]], and see nothing wrong with betraying them the moment it becomes convenient. After all, [[MoralMyopia they would rather allow thousands of humans to die than one of their own kind]].kind]]; but then again, humanity isn't a DyingRace condemned [[FateWorseThanDeath to having their souls eaten and played with by a God of excess debauchery after death]].
18th Oct '16 5:00:16 AM gophergiggles
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* The flavor text of the "Gigo" series of ''CardGame/YuGiOh'' cards tells the progression of a character who starts innocent as [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gigobyte Gigobyte]] but is destined to be tainted by evil, becoming [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Jigabyte Jigabyte]], is reformed and comes back as [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gagagigo Gagagigo]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becomes so obsessed with power to fight evil]] he [[FallenHero turns evil once more]] as [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Giga_Gagagigo Giga Gagagigo]], ultimately becoming a soulless power-driven evildoer once more as [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gogiga_Gagagigo Gogiga Gagagigo]], and is finally reformed once more as [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gagagigo_the_Risen Gagagigo the Risen]]. This is all tied together with numerous ''more'' cards, and the entire progression can be [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gigo found here]].
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9th Oct '16 9:34:13 AM erforce
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** Jack Sparrow. Summarized quite succinctly in [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl the third movie]]:

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** Jack Sparrow. Summarized quite succinctly in [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanAtWorldsEnd the third movie]]:
17th Sep '16 5:08:34 PM WiddershinsDaughter
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* ''WebSeries/CarmillaTheSeries'': During Season 2, Carmilla switches orientation no fewer than four times, as does her sister, Mattie, due to their vampiric nature testing the strength of their alliance with (and in Carmilla's case, love for) Laura. In Season 3, they both settle down into, respectively, ByronicHero and AntiHero roles.
7th Jul '16 9:53:04 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''WesternAnimation/HappilyNEverAfter'', Rumpelstiltskin starts out evil and later turns good. In the sequel he's back to being evil. Though this may be more a case of NegativeContinuity and TheyJustDidntCare, since they don't give an explanation for why he's gone back to being evil.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/HappilyNEverAfter'', Rumpelstiltskin starts out evil and later turns good. In the sequel he's back to being evil. Though this may be more a case of NegativeContinuity and TheyJustDidntCare, NegativeContinuity, since they don't give an explanation for why he's gone back to being evil.
1st Jul '16 3:10:29 AM Anddrix
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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'''s Vriska Serket manages to do this without ever technically changing sides, switching back and forth from VillainProtagonist to SociopathicHero. She [[KickTheDog kicks the proverbial dog]] (usually her personal ButtMonkey, Tavros) on a regular basis, but also has some [[PetTheDog nicer]] moments, especially when it comes to [[MoralityPet John]]. She's a SmugSnake most of the time, but occasionally [[BeneathTheMask her mask will start to slip]], revealing crippling self-hatred that she tries to cover up by being a JerkAss. She has a massive body count, but [[AbusiveParents an excuse]] [[HorrorHunger for it]], and while she's the TokenEvilTeammate for most of the trolls' session, [[spoiler:she very well might be ''less'' evil than the other two contenders for that title later, who are respectively AxCrazy and planning to betray the group to the BigBad]]. [[WordOfGod The author says]] he [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste intended for her]] to be a BaseBreaker.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'''s Vriska Serket manages to do this without ever technically changing sides, switching back and forth from VillainProtagonist to SociopathicHero. She [[KickTheDog kicks the proverbial dog]] (usually her personal ButtMonkey, Tavros) on a regular basis, but also has some [[PetTheDog nicer]] moments, especially when it comes to [[MoralityPet John]]. She's a SmugSnake most of the time, but occasionally [[BeneathTheMask her mask will start to slip]], revealing crippling self-hatred that she tries to cover up by being a JerkAss. She has a massive body count, but [[AbusiveParents an excuse]] [[HorrorHunger for it]], and while she's the TokenEvilTeammate for most of the trolls' session, [[spoiler:she very well might be ''less'' evil than the other two contenders for that title later, who are respectively AxCrazy and planning to betray the group to the BigBad]]. [[WordOfGod The author says]] he [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste intended for her]] to be a BaseBreaker.BaseBreakingCharacter.
24th Jun '16 7:55:45 AM KingZeal
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Compare ChronicBackstabbingDisorder (which is more about switching between grey groups than white-to-black or visa versa), WildCard (where the character isn't strongly on anybody's side ever), UnscrupulousHero (a character who is unambiguously on the heroic side), and the DoubleReverseQuadrupleAgent (he never changes sides, but no one is sure what side he's really on). See HeelFaceMole for when a villain fakes a HeelFaceTurn, only to return to being evil after his goal is achieved.

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Compare ChronicBackstabbingDisorder (which is more about switching between grey groups than white-to-black or visa versa), WildCard (where the character isn't strongly on anybody's side ever), UnscrupulousHero (a character who is unambiguously on the heroic side), and the DoubleReverseQuadrupleAgent (he never changes sides, but no one is sure what side he's really on). See HeelFaceMole for when a villain fakes a HeelFaceTurn, only to return to being evil after his goal is achieved.
achieved. See MoralPragmatist for a character who switches sides to whomever is best suited to help their plans.
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