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7th Jul '16 9:52:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Also, about that episode that says the Constructicons were good once? Two other episodes give ''[[MultipleChoicePast two other histories]]'' for the Constructicons, each backstory incompatible with the other two. TheyJustDidntCare about continuity, so The Core being a followup to the earlier episode - which it didn't reference at all - would be ''entirely'' OutOfCharacter for the writers. Odds are, The Core's writer had never even heard of the earlier story. In the episode itself, the decision was presented ''purely'' as Chip and the Autobots saying "Ooh, the Constructicons turn into a really strong CombiningMecha! What if it was ours?" and then going and whipping up some "dominator discs."

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** Also, about that episode that says the Constructicons were good once? Two other episodes give ''[[MultipleChoicePast two other histories]]'' for the Constructicons, each backstory incompatible with the other two. TheyJustDidntCare They didn't care about continuity, so The Core being a followup to the earlier episode - which it didn't reference at all - would be ''entirely'' OutOfCharacter for the writers. Odds are, The Core's writer had never even heard of the earlier story. In the episode itself, the decision was presented ''purely'' as Chip and the Autobots saying "Ooh, the Constructicons turn into a really strong CombiningMecha! What if it was ours?" and then going and whipping up some "dominator discs."
24th Jun '16 5:51:38 AM Doug86
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* In the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} SpinOff ''Comicbook/{{Exiles}}'', the reality-altering, body-swapping villain Proteus [[spoiler: takes over [[ShapeShifting Morph's]] body, which doesn't degrade like other bodies Proteus inhabits do. The team manage to use some AppliedPhlebotinum (from the world of the ComicBook/SquadronSupreme mentioned above, in fact) in order to brainwash Proteus into [[BecomingTheMask thinking he IS Morph]]. However, the ramifications of this action are explored in future issues.]] It does help that Proteus WAS planning on making the entire universe his plaything.

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* In the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} ComicBook/XMen SpinOff ''Comicbook/{{Exiles}}'', the reality-altering, body-swapping villain Proteus [[spoiler: takes over [[ShapeShifting Morph's]] body, which doesn't degrade like other bodies Proteus inhabits do. The team manage to use some AppliedPhlebotinum (from the world of the ComicBook/SquadronSupreme mentioned above, in fact) in order to brainwash Proteus into [[BecomingTheMask thinking he IS Morph]]. However, the ramifications of this action are explored in future issues.]] It does help that Proteus WAS planning on making the entire universe his plaything.
22nd Jun '16 2:53:56 PM Quanyails
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** The entire point of ''ComicBook/{{AXIS}} was that heroes would turn bad and villains good due to a magic spell. While the story ended with almost everyone reverting back to their old alignment, one villain's inversion did stick: Sabretooth. Due to being near some Iron Man tech intended to protect Tony from being turned good, Sabretooth did not return to his old ways, and in fact decides to honour Wolverine's memory (who recently died) and follow his example, becoming a hero to atone for what he's done.

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** The entire point of ''ComicBook/{{AXIS}} ''ComicBook/{{AXIS}}'' was that heroes would turn bad and villains good due to a magic spell. While the story ended with almost everyone reverting back to their old alignment, one villain's inversion did stick: Sabretooth. Due to being near some Iron Man tech intended to protect Tony from being turned good, Sabretooth did not return to his old ways, and in fact decides to honour Wolverine's memory (who recently died) and follow his example, becoming a hero to atone for what he's done.
18th Jun '16 4:34:32 PM billybobfred
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** The same thing happens to [[spoiler:[[PunnyName Ms. Ribble]]]] in the 5th book.
* The remoralisation spell in ''Literature/NightWatch''.
** Not really an example, since it's neither heel-face, nor brainwashing in usual sense. First, it doesn't turn people to good, it just forces them to behave according to their moral code, so if the person in question crossed the MoralEventHorizon, it may have no effect at all, or worse. Second, it doesn't change said person's morale or way of thinking at all, and he's free to do anything he pleases when effect wears off.
** There's more straighr example, though-a failed attempt to brainwash the Soviet people into communistic ideals, planned and executed [[spoiler: and also sabotaged]] by the Light mages.

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** The same thing happens to [[spoiler:[[PunnyName fifth book kicks off with Harold and George trying this on Ms. Ribble]]]] in the 5th book.
* The remoralisation spell in ''Literature/NightWatch''.
** Not really an example, since it's neither heel-face, nor brainwashing in usual sense. First, it doesn't
Ribble, and specifying that she should ''only'' stop being so mean and "won't turn people to good, it just forces them to behave according to their moral code, so if the person in question crossed the MoralEventHorizon, it may have no effect at all, into Wedgie Woman or worse. Second, it doesn't change said person's morale or way of thinking at all, and he's free to do anything he pleases when effect wears off.
** There's more straighr example, though-a failed attempt to brainwash
weird like that". Midway through the Soviet people into communistic ideals, planned hypnosis, a news bulletin [[WeInterruptThisProgram interrupts the story]] to warn everyone that, for some reason, using the Hypno Ring on women causes them to follow the ''opposite'' of the instructions given. Thus, the plot kicks off. [[spoiler:After she's defeated, Harold and executed [[spoiler: George figure out what happened and also sabotaged]] by the Light mages.Heel-Face Brainwash her for real.]]
4th Jun '16 5:34:20 PM lavendermintrose
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* In ''Anime/CodeGeass R2'', Lelouch Geasses a ''lot'' of people into [[spoiler:accepting him as Emperor]]. Since by this point in the story the BlackAndGrayMorality has turned into a soupy mess, it's very much a HazyFeelTurn. Before that point, the most he'd done was MindControl people into doing specific tasks for him, not actually compel them to switch sides against their will. Earlier in season 1, when Lelouch learned that his best friend Suzaku was the pilot of the perpetual SpannerInTheWorks mecha Lancelot, his partner C.C. suggested he [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just brainwash Suzaku]] into joining him. Lelouch refuses for a number of reasons, such as personal pride and disgust at the idea of destroying someone's free will; the fact that these are no longer a concern shows how far he's fallen in the second season.
15th May '16 10:54:05 AM nombretomado
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* ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'':
** At the end of Creator/ChrisClaremont's run on ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'', {{Magneto}} finds out that Moira [=MacTaggert=] had a procedure like this done to him after he was turned into a child during one of his many zany schemes for world conquest. Thinking that this was the reason for his HeelFaceTurn, he uses the procedure on one of the X-Men teams for a FaceHeelTurn, but finds out that the use of mutant powers quickly reverse the effects of the procedure. (A matter of minutes.) Then he [[DisneyDeath dies]], but he got better, and became a one-dimensional cliched villain again who later uses drugs, because being bad wasn't bad enough. Then he [[OffWithHisHead dies again]] (but it wasn't ''really'' him this time) until Claremont finally got a hold of him for some CharacterRerailment in the relaunch of Excalibur. He's currently in AntiHero mode.

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* ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'':
''Comicbook/XMen'':
** At the end of Creator/ChrisClaremont's run on ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'', {{Magneto}} ''X-Men'', ComicBook/{{Magneto}} finds out that Moira [=MacTaggert=] had a procedure like this done to him after he was turned into a child during one of his many zany schemes for world conquest. Thinking that this was the reason for his HeelFaceTurn, he uses the procedure on one of the X-Men teams for a FaceHeelTurn, but finds out that the use of mutant powers quickly reverse the effects of the procedure. (A matter of minutes.) Then he [[DisneyDeath dies]], but he got better, and became a one-dimensional cliched villain again who later uses drugs, because being bad wasn't bad enough. Then he [[OffWithHisHead dies again]] (but it wasn't ''really'' him this time) until Claremont finally got a hold of him for some CharacterRerailment in the relaunch of Excalibur. He's currently in AntiHero mode.
8th May '16 3:45:07 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* In a supreme irony, a KnightTemplar who engages in this behavior in ''[[{{Accelerando}} Glasshouse]]'' is forced to reprogram herself so she believes it's wrong to change people like this. Decide for yourself whether that's hypocrisy or {{karma}}.

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* In a supreme irony, a KnightTemplar who engages in this behavior in ''[[{{Accelerando}} ''[[Literature/{{Accelerando}} Glasshouse]]'' is forced to reprogram herself so she believes it's wrong to change people like this. Decide for yourself whether that's hypocrisy or {{karma}}.
26th Apr '16 11:06:00 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* In the third book in the ''Literature/SeaOfTrolls'' series, we meet a dwarf (not the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame fantasy kind]], but a "[[UnfortunateImplications little person]]"). He seems decent at first, but we later learn that he's a shady, treacherous JerkAss working for the evil king. After his memory is erased, he becomes a perfectly decent guy.

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* In the third book in the ''Literature/SeaOfTrolls'' series, we meet a dwarf (not the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame fantasy kind]], but a "[[UnfortunateImplications [[DepravedDwarf little person]]").person]]). He seems decent at first, but we later learn that he's a shady, treacherous JerkAss working for the evil king. After his memory is erased, he becomes a perfectly decent guy.



** He's certainly a gray character at best, but Barty Crouch Sr. breaking his son out of Azkaban and then using the Imperius curse to control him could qualify, since his purpose was mainly to keep him from revealing himself and killing people/trying to resurrect Voldemort.

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** He's certainly a gray character at best, but Barty Crouch Sr. breaking his son out of Azkaban and then using the Imperius curse Curse to control him could qualify, since his purpose was mainly to keep him from revealing himself and killing people/trying to resurrect Voldemort.
17th Apr '16 6:25:43 PM Quanyails
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* The gynoid [[KillerRobot WD-40]] in ''VideoGame/SpaceQuestVTheNextMutation'' sent to kill [[TheAlmightyJanitor Roger]] for [[AllCrimesAreEqual mail fraud]] is blown apart by Roger with his patented "[[Film/BeverlyHillsCop Axel Foley]]" method and then put back together by Cliffy, who reprograms her to be the ''Eureka''[='=]s science officer.

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* The gynoid [[KillerRobot WD-40]] in ''VideoGame/SpaceQuestVTheNextMutation'' sent to kill [[TheAlmightyJanitor [[AlmightyJanitor Roger]] for [[AllCrimesAreEqual mail fraud]] is blown apart by Roger with his patented "[[Film/BeverlyHillsCop Axel Foley]]" method and then put back together by Cliffy, who reprograms her to be the ''Eureka''[='=]s science officer.
2nd Mar '16 4:55:19 PM erforce
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* At the end of ''Film/TheNeverendingStory II'', Bastian uses his final magic wish to ask that the nearly omnipotent BigBad gain "a heart". She's so struck with grief at what she's done that she literally explodes and all the evil that she had done to Fantasia is [[NoOntologicalInertia wiped away as if it never happened.]]

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* At the end of ''Film/TheNeverendingStory II'', ''Film/TheNeverendingStoryIITheNextChapter'', Bastian uses his final magic wish to ask that the nearly omnipotent BigBad gain "a heart". She's so struck with grief at what she's done that she literally explodes and all the evil that she had done to Fantasia is [[NoOntologicalInertia wiped away as if it never happened.]]



* ''Film/TotalRecall'' has a rare case of the BigBad doing this to his then [[TheDragon Dragon]] as part of an elaborate infiltration operation. Of course being the villaion he doesn't see it as this trope, but the audience does.

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* ''Film/TotalRecall'' ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' has a rare case of the BigBad doing this to his then [[TheDragon Dragon]] as part of an elaborate infiltration operation. Of course being the villaion he doesn't see it as this trope, but the audience does.
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