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11th Jan '17 12:51:35 PM Tractical_Chunder
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* {{Discussed|Trope}} by Gordon Freeman in ''Machinima/FreemansMind'', although he can't remember whether Nietzsche said "monsters" or "drummers". He concludes that it must have been "drummers" because there was no way he could end up being anything like the monsters he was fighting, especially not the fifty-foot tall Tentacle he was dealing with at the time.

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* {{Discussed|Trope}} by Gordon Freeman in ''Machinima/FreemansMind'', although he can't remember whether Nietzsche said "monsters" or "drummers". He concludes that it must have been "drummers" [[ComicallyMissingThePoint because there was no way he could end up being looking anything like the monsters he was fighting, especially not the fifty-foot tall Tentacle he was dealing with at the time.]]
3rd Jan '17 3:40:23 PM MarsJenkar
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As expected, this twisted situation is very popular in the Revenge {{Tragedy}} genre, especially because of its inherent DramaticIrony [[note]]Nietzsche himself was also inspired by Ancient Greek tragic antihero archetypes; see also his first book ''The Birth of Tragedy''[[/note]]. This trope can also be used to demonstrate how "eye-for-an-eye" justice, while sounding like sweet [[CallItKarma Karmic]] EquivalentExchange Justice at first, can [[CycleOfRevenge easily spiral out]] into [[ForWantOfANail utter chaos]] if the hero lets his passions, wrath, and {{Pride}} forgo rationality.



As expected, this twisted situation is very popular in the Revenge {{Tragedy}} genre, especially because of its inherent DramaticIrony [[note]]Nietzsche himself was also inspired by Ancient Greek tragic antihero archetypes; see also his first book ''The Birth of Tragedy''[[/note]]. This trope can also be used to demonstrate how "eye-for-an-eye" justice, while sounding like sweet [[CallItKarma Karmic]] EquivalentExchange Justice at first, can [[CycleOfRevenge easily spiral out]] into [[ForWantOfANail utter chaos]] if the hero lets his passions, wrath, and {{Pride}} forgo rationality.
3rd Jan '17 3:39:58 PM MarsJenkar
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May be expressed through the page quote, or via the common misquote "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you ''become'' the enemy".
22nd Dec '16 3:17:14 PM Zephyrious
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* In ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', Taylor begins to epitomize this trope as she gets deeper and deeper into the politics of being a [[DifferentlyEmpoweredPerson cape]], eventually becoming a WellIntentionedExtremist who makes it clear that there are no lines that she refuses to cross if it accomplishes her goals.

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* In ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', Taylor begins to epitomize this trope as she gets deeper and deeper into the politics of being a [[DifferentlyEmpoweredPerson [[DifferentlyPoweredIndividual cape]], eventually becoming a WellIntentionedExtremist who makes it clear that there are no lines that she refuses to cross if it accomplishes her goals.
6th Dec '16 8:47:40 PM BurgerLord
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** '''[[BloodKnight I want the blood.]]'''
4th Dec '16 2:06:20 PM HawkbitAlpha
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->''"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."''

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->''"He ->''"[[TropeNamer He who fights monsters monsters]] should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."''
26th Nov '16 12:46:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac: when Cyrano gives us his BullyHunter speech in Act I Scene IV, he has just bullied a poor Bore who only slightly bothered Cyrano...So Cyrano, according to the LawOfDisproportionateResponse, invokes the BerserkButton of his nose so he can dispense DisproportionateRetribution, kicking the Boreís ass. Itís obvious that Cyrano has been bullied before [[TheGrotesque because of his enormous nose]], but he is so BadAss compared to anyone else in the play that now ''he is the bully.''

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* Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac: when Cyrano gives us his BullyHunter speech in Act I Scene IV, he has just bullied a poor Bore who only slightly bothered Cyrano...So Cyrano, according to the LawOfDisproportionateResponse, invokes the BerserkButton of his nose so he can dispense DisproportionateRetribution, kicking the Boreís ass. Itís obvious that Cyrano has been bullied before [[TheGrotesque because of his enormous nose]], but he is so BadAss badass compared to anyone else in the play that now ''he is the bully.''
13th Nov '16 1:11:59 PM Njein
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** This is what happened to [[spoiler: Yokai/Robert Callaghan)]] himself - he became this after [[spoiler: his daughter's apparent death]], driving him to extremely desperate measures to [[spoiler: take revenge on Alistair Krei]].

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** This is what happened to [[spoiler: Yokai/Robert Callaghan)]] Callaghan]] himself - he became this after [[spoiler: his daughter's apparent death]], driving death]] drove him to extremely desperate measures to [[spoiler: take revenge on Alistair Krei]].
13th Nov '16 1:09:57 PM Njein
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* In ''Disney/BigHero6'' Hiro [[spoiler: attempts to use Baymax to kill Yokai (aka Callaghan). However, both his team and Baymax help him [[DefiedTrope defy]] this trope when they bring him back to his senses.]]

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* In ''Disney/BigHero6'' Hiro [[spoiler: attempts to use Baymax to kill Yokai (aka Callaghan).Yokai/Robert Callaghan. However, both his team and Baymax help him [[DefiedTrope defy]] this trope when they bring him back to his senses.]]]]
** This is what happened to [[spoiler: Yokai/Robert Callaghan)]] himself - he became this after [[spoiler: his daughter's apparent death]], driving him to extremely desperate measures to [[spoiler: take revenge on Alistair Krei]].
5th Nov '16 9:42:50 PM nombretomado
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* Agent Kent Mansley from ''TheIronGiant'', whose fanatical anti-communist efforts made him unable to accept the titular robot's overtures of peace, even when the general he was advising was willing to stand his soldiers down. He then [[spoiler: got a nuke launched at a small American coastal town. [[TooDumbToLive Where he happened to be.]]]]

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* Agent Kent Mansley from ''TheIronGiant'', ''WesternAnimation/TheIronGiant'', whose fanatical anti-communist efforts made him unable to accept the titular robot's overtures of peace, even when the general he was advising was willing to stand his soldiers down. He then [[spoiler: got a nuke launched at a small American coastal town. [[TooDumbToLive Where he happened to be.]]]]
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