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31st Mar '18 11:50:21 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The name of the town of Fort Gay, West Virginia actually got one of its residents [[https://kotaku.com/5632871/xbox-live-gamer-suspended-for-living-in-fort-gay banned from Xbox Live]] when he listed it as his place of residence, due to Microsoft thinking that he put it in there as an insult. Even the town's mayor tried to intervene, to no avail. Fortunately, the situation did eventually get reversed when Stephen Toulouse, the director of policy and enforcement for Xbox Live, personally intervened.
27th Feb '18 11:05:53 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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** The TropeNamer is of course based on the word "gay", which once meant "happy, carefree, joyful". It started to take on its modern meaning in the 1930s, but continued to be used in its original sense throughout TheForties and TheFifties (although frankly, the word was used so often, and so gratuitously, that one has to seriously wonder if some of these later cases were deliberate attempts at GettingCrapPastTheRadar).

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** The TropeNamer is of course based on the word "gay", which once meant "happy, carefree, joyful". It started to take on its modern meaning of "homosexual" in the 1930s, but continued to be used in its original sense throughout TheForties and TheFifties (although (giving us things like "a gay little love melody" in works as late as 1959's ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'', although frankly, the word was used so often, and so gratuitously, that one has to seriously wonder if some of these later cases were weren't deliberate attempts at GettingCrapPastTheRadar).



* The word "lover" used to mean nothing more than “fond friend” and had nothing to do with whether the two were sexually active. (In early modern English it could even mean “ally”.) The term used for a sexual partner was "paramour".

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* The word "lover" used to mean nothing more than “fond friend” and had nothing to do with whether the two were sexually active. (In early modern English it could even mean “ally”.) The term used for a sexual partner back then was "paramour".



** "Cum" borders on this. It could either be Latin for "with", e.g. "cum laude" (with honors), or a fancier way of saying "as well as," as in "a writer-cum-artist"; or, as it is mostly used nowadays, a corrupted synonym of "come" for ejaculatory fluid.

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** "Cum" borders on this. It could either be a Latin preposition for "with", e.g. "cum laude" (with honors), or a fancier way of saying "as well as," as in "a writer-cum-artist"; or, as it is mostly used nowadays, a corrupted synonym of "come" for ejaculatory fluid.



* "Tramp" used to refer to bums, hobos, vagrants, drifters, or vagabonds. Today, its most common usage is as a derogatory term for sex workers and is synonymous with equally derogatory terms such as "slut", "harlot" or "whore".

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* "Tramp" used to refer to bums, hobos, vagrants, drifters, or vagabonds.vagabonds (hence, for example, ''Disney/LadyAndTheTramp''). Today, its most common usage is as a derogatory term for sex workers and is synonymous with equally derogatory terms such as "slut", "harlot" or "whore".



* "Holocaust" originally meant a burnt offering made as a sacrifice to a deity in which the sacrificial animal was entirely burned (instead of some of the meat being eaten). Later, it meant any kind of destructive fire. Nowadays, the term automatically calls to mind UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust. Even uncapitalized, the term still refers to mass-murder or a mass-casualty event on an extreme scale, such as genocide or UsefulNotes/NuclearWar.
* "Boner" used to mean "silly mistake", but now it means "erection". In quite-clean older works you might be startled when a character says something like "Everyone is still laughing about my boner in the big game."

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* "Holocaust" originally meant a burnt offering made as a sacrifice to a deity in which the sacrificial animal was entirely burned (instead of some of the meat being eaten). Later, it meant any kind of [[KillItWithFire destructive fire.fire]]. Nowadays, the term automatically calls to mind UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust. Even uncapitalized, [[AllLowercaseLetters uncapitalized]], the term still refers to mass-murder or a mass-casualty event on an extreme scale, such as genocide or UsefulNotes/NuclearWar.
* "Boner" used to mean "silly mistake", mistake" (or "''bone''headed decision"), but now it means "erection". In quite-clean older works you might be startled when a character says something like "Everyone is still laughing about my boner in the big game."



** Similarly, the words “retarded” and “retard” originally meant “slowed” and “to slow” respectively, and were often used as shorthand for a person with mental retardation. Nowadays, the terms are used as insults denoting a person who is exceptionally stupid.

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** Similarly, the words “retarded” and “retard” originally meant “slowed” and “to slow” respectively, and were often used as shorthand for a person with mental retardation. Nowadays, the terms are used as insults denoting a person who is exceptionally stupid. There's also a [[https://www.musictheory.net/lessons/53 third use of "retardation" in music theory]], referring to when one note of a chord is kept late through a ChordProgression and then steps up.
1st Feb '18 12:01:34 AM MasterofGalaxies4628
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** The word "faggot" used to be an alternative spelling of “fagot”, which means a bundle of sticks--before becoming a pejorative term for homosexuals as well as a vulgar insult in general. In Britain, there is also a foodstuff called "faggots" which are a type of meatball. From the original term also came the word "fag," which, in Britain is a slang for cigarette but is basically considered "the ''other'' F-bomb" in the United States, which can lead to [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage occasional unfortunate misunderstandings]].

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** The word "faggot" used to be an alternative spelling of “fagot”, "fagot", which means a bundle of sticks--before becoming a pejorative term for homosexuals as well as a vulgar insult in general. In Britain, there is also a foodstuff called "faggots" which are a type of meatball. From the original term also came the word "fag," which, in Britain is a slang for cigarette but is basically considered "the ''other'' F-bomb" in the United States, which can lead to [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage occasional unfortunate misunderstandings]].



*** The musical instrument known in English as bassoon is named "fagotto" in Italian and "Fagott" in German. It's common to see these terms abbreviated in scores as "Fag."

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*** The musical instrument known in English as the bassoon is named "fagotto" in Italian and "Fagott" in German. It's common to see these terms abbreviated in scores as "Fag."



* The term "G-string" originally meant "a loincloth worn by American Indian men". Referring to ''the groin'', then an inappropriate term for polite company. ''G-string'' was intentionally juxtaposed with the musical term.

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* The term "G-string" originally meant "a loincloth worn by American Indian men". Referring to ''the groin'', then an inappropriate term for polite company. ''G-string'' was intentionally juxtaposed with the musical term.term (the lowest string on a violin, which is tuned to the G note).



** The low string on a violin.
30th Jan '18 10:20:09 AM LadyJafaria
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* The word "villain", which is derived from the archaic "''villein''", originally referred to a lowly peasant or villager of free rank or a serf who acted as a lord's subject under the feudal system. As time progressed and the haughty upper-class people looked down on them, the word "villain" today usually refers to the BigBad, and its older meaning of a villager, serf or lord's servant nowadays is found in Medieval Literature or Creator/WilliamShakespeare's dramas and literature.

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* The word "villain", which is derived from the archaic "''villein''", originally referred to a lowly peasant or villager of free rank or a serf who acted as a lord's subject under the feudal system. As time progressed and the haughty upper-class people looked down on them, the word "villain" today usually refers to the BigBad, and its older meaning of a villager, serf or lord's servant nowadays is found in Medieval Literature or Creator/WilliamShakespeare's dramas and literature. (Shakespeare was on the very cusp of the word starting to mean a bad person, as his plays have such lines like "one may smile, and smile, and be a villain" implying a BitchInSheepsClothing rather than the "peasant" connotation, but also the use of "villain" as a ''generic'' insult for someone who isn't actually the baddie.)
30th Jan '18 6:55:30 AM Southagermican
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** Even though the same thing happened in Spanish with the word "siniestra/o", there is an old idiom still somewhat in use: ''"A diestra y siniestra"''. It literally means "to right and left", and it allegedly originated from battle (killing enemies right and left). The original meanings -still present in the official Spanish dictionary- of ''diestra'' and ''siniestra'' are right and left respectively. Nowadays, ''diestro/a'' means that the person has dexterity, or that they are right-handed, and ''siniestro/a'' means the same as sinister in English, with the sole exception of the mentioned idiom.
20th Jan '18 2:46:41 PM CaptEquinox
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* Former MEP Godfrey Bloom of the far right UK Independence Party used this trope to justify remarks in which he [[StayInTheKitchen referred to women who don't clean behind the fridge regularly as "sluts"]]. His excuse was that the word "slut" apparently used to mean a lazy or slovenly woman. It didn't work, and Bloom was forced to resign.

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* Former MEP Godfrey Bloom of the far right UK Independence Party used this trope to justify remarks in which he [[StayInTheKitchen referred to women who don't clean behind the fridge regularly as "sluts"]]. His excuse was that the word "slut" apparently used to mean a lazy or slovenly woman. [[note]]He was right. It goes back to Chaucer and meant slob. Dust mice used to be "slut's wool". Later a slut was a maid whose job was to ''clean'' filthy messes.[[/note]] It didn't work, and Bloom was forced to resign.
19th Jan '18 3:33:34 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** The word "faggot" used to be an alternative spelling of “fagot”, which means a bundle of [[HehHehYouSaidX wood]]--um, ''sticks''--before becoming a pejorative term for homosexuals as well as a vulgar insult in general. In Britain, there is also a foodstuff called "faggots" which are a type of meatball. From the original term also came the word "fag," which, in Britain is a slang for cigarette but is basically considered "the ''other'' F-bomb" in the United States, which can lead to [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage occasional unfortunate misunderstandings]].

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** The word "faggot" used to be an alternative spelling of “fagot”, which means a bundle of [[HehHehYouSaidX wood]]--um, ''sticks''--before sticks--before becoming a pejorative term for homosexuals as well as a vulgar insult in general. In Britain, there is also a foodstuff called "faggots" which are a type of meatball. From the original term also came the word "fag," which, in Britain is a slang for cigarette but is basically considered "the ''other'' F-bomb" in the United States, which can lead to [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage occasional unfortunate misunderstandings]].
5th Jan '18 6:48:27 AM snichols1973
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* The word "villain", which is derived from the archaic "''villein''", originally referred to a lowly peasant or villager of free rank or a serf who acted as a lord's subject under the feudal system. As time progressed and the haughty upper-class people looked down on them, the word "villain" today usually refers to the BigBad, and its older meaning of a villager, serf or lord's servant nowadays is found in Medieval Literature or Creator/WilliamShakespeare's dramas and literature.
* Whenever we hear the word "sinister", we usually think of it as a synonym for evil. In olden times, however, the word "sinister" originally referred to the left side of something, such as the left hand, with a number of superstitious people regarding southpaws as unlucky or cursed. In heraldry, when someone's coat of arms started off in the upper left hand corner (from the arms bearer's perspective, not the viewer's), a stripe or sash that started on the left hand shoulder would have people think that their birth was illegitimate. The older meaning of "sinister" is not entirely lost, since opthamologists and optometrists will use the abbreviation "O.S." for "oculus sinister", which simply means the left eye.
* The word "coward", which usually refers to someone who lacks courage to finish the battle they started, attacks someone disproportionately and resorts to underhanded attacks, or even the MilesGloriosus who runs when the action gets fierce, is derived from the Old French word "cowherd" or "couard", when the young boys of Gaulish times had the duty of tending the cows, and whenever danger arose, they were usually too timid to face wild animals or thieves, and as time progressed, the older meaning of "coward" as a herding boy is virtually forgotten.
1st Jan '18 12:41:58 AM GingaFan404
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** The word "faggot" used to mean bundles of [[HehHehYouSaidX wood]]--um, ''sticks''--before becoming a pejorative term for homosexuals. In Britain, there is also a foodstuff called "faggots" which are a type of meatball. From the original term also came the word "fag," which, in Britain is a slang for cigarette but is basically considered "the ''other'' F-bomb" in the United States, which can lead to [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage occasional unfortunate misunderstandings]].

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** The word "faggot" used to mean bundles be an alternative spelling of “fagot”, which means a bundle of [[HehHehYouSaidX wood]]--um, ''sticks''--before becoming a pejorative term for homosexuals.homosexuals as well as a vulgar insult in general. In Britain, there is also a foodstuff called "faggots" which are a type of meatball. From the original term also came the word "fag," which, in Britain is a slang for cigarette but is basically considered "the ''other'' F-bomb" in the United States, which can lead to [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage occasional unfortunate misunderstandings]].



** "Cum" borders on this. It could either be Latin for "with", e.g. "cum laude" (with honors), or a fancier way of saying "as well as," as in "a writer-cum-artist"; or a corrupted synonym of "come" for ejaculatory fluid.

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** "Cum" borders on this. It could either be Latin for "with", e.g. "cum laude" (with honors), or a fancier way of saying "as well as," as in "a writer-cum-artist"; or or, as it is mostly used nowadays, a corrupted synonym of "come" for ejaculatory fluid.



** "Bitch" originally referred to female dogs that give birth to young puppies, but is now almost exclusively used as an insult, fairly often with sexist and gendered applications--[[AppropriatedAppellation and as such is occasionally reclaimed by feminist organizations]] [[NWordPrivileges as a term of endearment]]. A VocalMinority of dog breeders still swear by the term in its original context, and it is sometimes used among veterinary personnel to refer specifically to an intact (i.e. unspayed) female dog (as this status can be important for certain medical purposes).

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** "Bitch" originally referred to female dogs that give birth to young puppies, but is now almost exclusively used as an a vulgar insult, fairly often with sexist and gendered applications--[[AppropriatedAppellation connotations--[[AppropriatedAppellation and as such is occasionally reclaimed by feminist organizations]] [[NWordPrivileges as a term of endearment]]. A VocalMinority of dog breeders still swear by the term in its original context, and it is sometimes used among veterinary personnel to refer specifically to an intact (i.e. unspayed) female dog (as this status can be important for certain medical purposes).



** A "cougar" originally referred to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cougar a species of wildcat]] but can also mean [[MrsRobinson an older woman who dates younger men]]. "Puma," another name for the same cat, has become a somewhat less common term for a younger cougar (like, in her thirties, whereas a full-fledged cougar is at least forty). The wildcat species [[IHaveManyNames has a number of other names]], including "mountain lion" and "catamount," but none of those have alternate slang meanings.

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** A "cougar" originally referred exclusively to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cougar a species of wildcat]] wildcat]], but now can also mean [[MrsRobinson an older woman who dates younger men]]. "Puma," another name for the same cat, has become a somewhat less common term for a younger cougar (like, in her thirties, whereas a full-fledged cougar is at least forty). The wildcat species [[IHaveManyNames has a number of other names]], including "mountain lion" and "catamount," but none of those have alternate slang meanings.
1st Jan '18 12:37:13 AM GingaFan404
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** "Bitch" originally referred to female dogs that give birth to young puppies, but is now almost exclusively used as a sexist, gendered insult--[[AppropriatedAppellation occasionally reclaimed by feminist organizations]] [[NWordPrivileges as a term of endearment]]. A VocalMinority of dog breeders still swear by the term in its original context, and it is sometimes used among veterinary personnel to refer specifically to an intact (i.e. unspayed) female dog (as this status can be important for certain medical purposes).

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** "Bitch" originally referred to female dogs that give birth to young puppies, but is now almost exclusively used as a sexist, an insult, fairly often with sexist and gendered insult--[[AppropriatedAppellation applications--[[AppropriatedAppellation and as such is occasionally reclaimed by feminist organizations]] [[NWordPrivileges as a term of endearment]]. A VocalMinority of dog breeders still swear by the term in its original context, and it is sometimes used among veterinary personnel to refer specifically to an intact (i.e. unspayed) female dog (as this status can be important for certain medical purposes).
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