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2nd Dec '16 11:04:25 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* '''The PC Crusader:''': If there's a minority in a work of fiction, '''[[EverythingIsRacist it's racist,]] [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad homophobic, sexist trash.]]''' [[UnpleasableFanbase No matter how a character belonging to a minority is treated]], the PC Crusader will find a way to make the author sound like they are single-handedly restoring blackface and bigotry to fiction. Black character who happens to help the protagonists somehow? MagicalNegro. A black villain? UnfortunateImplications! A feminine woman? RealWomenNeverWearDresses! A tomboy? A flat fetishistic macho fantasy! A disabled character attempting to overcome hurdles? InspirationallyDisadvantaged! And so on and so forth. Any discussion of bigotry, no matter how negatively portrayed, automatically makes those who made it bigots, regardless of how anti-bigotry it is. Oftentimes dismissing entire genres based on select media showing bigotry, imagined or otherwise. Needless to say, the only thing worse than putting minority characters into a work is ''not'' [[MonochromeCasting putting minority characters into a work]], even in works going for historical accuracy where including anyone outside of a specific race would be objectively inaccurate.

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* '''The PC Crusader:''': If there's a minority in a work of fiction, '''[[EverythingIsRacist it's racist,]] [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad homophobic, sexist trash.]]''' [[UnpleasableFanbase No matter how a character belonging to a minority is treated]], the PC Crusader will find a way to make the author sound like they are single-handedly restoring blackface and bigotry to fiction. Black character who happens to help the protagonists somehow? MagicalNegro. A black villain? UnfortunateImplications! An LGBTQ character who shifts the views of an ignorant or homophobic character? MagicalQueer! A feminine woman? RealWomenNeverWearDresses! A tomboy? A flat fetishistic macho fantasy! A disabled character attempting to overcome hurdles? InspirationallyDisadvantaged! And so on and so forth. Any discussion of bigotry, no matter how negatively portrayed, automatically makes those who made it bigots, regardless of how anti-bigotry it is. Oftentimes dismissing entire genres based on select media showing bigotry, imagined or otherwise. Needless to say, the only thing worse than putting minority characters into a work is ''not'' [[MonochromeCasting putting minority characters into a work]], even in works going for historical accuracy where including anyone outside of a specific race would be objectively inaccurate.
29th Oct '16 10:09:59 PM DimensionalShambler
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** '''The Un-PC Crusader''': What's that? The creator of my favorite work has decided to drop a very stereotypical character/issue, apologized to offended parties, made this work as a protest against stereotypes, and/or has spoken out against media portrayals of a minority? Now they're shoving their opinions down your throat/kowtowing to [=SJWs=]! The Un-PC Crusader will, at the slightest hint of a show displaying supposed PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad take it as a sign of the wimpification of society, exercise their right to free speech by being horribly racist and often make "edgy", "ironic" [[BlackComedy offensive jokes]], make long screeds on why being politically correct will hurt them and the fandom, or rush to defend actually racist/sexist/homophobic/whathaveyou practices in the guise of 'free speech'.

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** '''The Un-PC Crusader''': What's that? The creator of my favorite work has decided to drop a very stereotypical character/issue, apologized to offended parties, made this work as a protest against stereotypes, and/or has spoken out against media portrayals of a minority? Now they're shoving their opinions down your throat/kowtowing to [=SJWs=]! The Un-PC Crusader will, at the slightest hint of a show displaying supposed PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad take it as a sign of the wimpification of society, exercise their right to free speech by being horribly racist and often make "edgy", "ironic" [[BlackComedy offensive jokes]], jokes, make long screeds on why being politically correct will hurt them not having problematic material hurts straight white males and the fandom, or rush to defend actually racist/sexist/homophobic/whathaveyou practices and trends in the guise of 'free speech'.
29th Oct '16 3:55:12 AM DimensionalShambler
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** '''The Un-PC Crusader''': What's that? The creator of my favorite work has decided to drop a very stereotypical character/issue, apologized to offended parties, made this work as a protest against stereotypes, and/or has spoken out against media portrayals of a minority? Now they're shoving their opinions down your throat/kowtowing to [=SJWs=]! The Un-PC Crusader will, at the slightest hint of a show displaying supposed PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad take it as a sign of the wimpification of society, exercise their right to free speech by being horribly racist and often make "edgy", "ironic" [[BlackComedy offensive jokes]], or rush to defend actually racist/sexist/homophobic/whathaveyou practices in the guise of 'free speech'.

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** '''The Un-PC Crusader''': What's that? The creator of my favorite work has decided to drop a very stereotypical character/issue, apologized to offended parties, made this work as a protest against stereotypes, and/or has spoken out against media portrayals of a minority? Now they're shoving their opinions down your throat/kowtowing to [=SJWs=]! The Un-PC Crusader will, at the slightest hint of a show displaying supposed PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad take it as a sign of the wimpification of society, exercise their right to free speech by being horribly racist and often make "edgy", "ironic" [[BlackComedy offensive jokes]], make long screeds on why being politically correct will hurt them and the fandom, or rush to defend actually racist/sexist/homophobic/whathaveyou practices in the guise of 'free speech'.
22nd Aug '16 3:19:27 PM Josef5678
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* '''The Obsessed Hater''': They hate the show. They hate every one of the 42 hours per week they spend watching it. They hate every one of the 49 hours per week they spend blogging about it. They hate the crappy merchandise and only buy it all so that they can get a deeper knowledge of the many ways it's bad... It's the opposite of "Complaining about works one didn't take in". Being informed about the work so one isn't blindly complaining [[TropesAreTools is a good thing,]] but this hater takes it overboard by spending more time obsessing over their object of hate than the fans do in liking it. Expect some of these haters to use the InsaneTrollLogic that somehow, ''because'' this show is still on, it affects the quality of the shows that ''they'' like. Corporate creators love this kind of Hate Dumb better than a lukewarm fandom -- it's more profitable, and gives them free advertisement. (They spread the show word of mouth, people actually see it to see how bad it really is...you get the picture. See the PeripheryDemographic of ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]'' for how effective advertisers these anti-fans can be). In a nutshell; this is the kind of person who claims to have been lost as a customer; yet they keep buying from you again and again. Sometimes they even brings in ''new'' customers who try out of BileFascination and discover CriticalBacklash instead.

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* '''The Obsessed Hater''': They hate the show. They hate every one of the 42 hours per week they spend watching it. They hate every one of the 49 hours per week they spend blogging about it. They hate the crappy merchandise and only buy it all so that they can get a deeper knowledge of the many ways it's bad... It's the opposite of "Complaining about works one didn't take in". Being informed about the work so one isn't blindly complaining [[TropesAreTools is a good thing,]] but this hater takes it overboard by spending more time obsessing over their object of hate than the fans do in liking it. Expect some of these haters to use the InsaneTrollLogic that somehow, ''because'' this show is still on, it affects the quality of the shows that ''they'' like. Corporate creators love this kind of Hate Dumb better than a lukewarm fandom -- it's more profitable, and gives them free advertisement. (They spread the show word of mouth, people actually see it to see how bad it really is...you get the picture. See the PeripheryDemographic of ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]'' for how effective advertisers these anti-fans can be). In a nutshell; this is the kind of person who claims to have been lost as a customer; yet they keep buying from you again and again. Sometimes they even brings bring in ''new'' customers who try out of BileFascination and discover CriticalBacklash instead.



** '''The Mad Editor''': This is a subspecies of the above. This person frequently suggests a complete rewrite of the work, but they view it as improving it, even if it involves Flanderizing or Bowlderizing the work, [[CharacterDerailment completely derailing the characters]], or [[InNameOnly complete genre-shifts and abandoning the work in its entirety]]. This very often overlaps with the [[PeripheryHatedom Periphery Hate Dumb]]. These people often break out in vicious flamewars with types of FanDumb, making it [[GrayAndGrayMorality hard to discern who is who.]] Remember; constructive criticism is an attempt to tell the creator how they can do it better the way ''they'' want to, not how ''you'' want to.
** '''Made The Wrong Turn''': Similar to the Genre Alien, these are haters who are fans of a work that somehow directly offends their worldview or beliefs or something similar. Political conservatives who are fans of Creator/StephenColbert, for example, or homophobes that find themselves fans of Music/{{Queen}} or Music/XJapan, or fundamentalist Christians who somehow like Series/{{Supernatural}}. Often overlaps with the Mad Editor (in that they will deny or change elements of the work that upset their personal morals, ''even if that's the point of the work''), the PC Crusader or the Un-PC Crusader (in that they will rail at whatever is offending them and the fans that are okay with it), the Demonizer, and/or the Mad Homophobe.
* '''[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks Everything is the same]]''': These haters are commonly known for having a minimalistic view of fandoms they don't belong to. Sometimes, entire franchises or genres will attract these types of haters. They will pull the "It's the exact same as this"-card, sometimes without even seeing it. They sometimes have no moderate or casual likes; they view ''everything'' they aren't an outright fan of narrowly. For instance, somebody who does ''not'' like High-School dramas might view every show set in high school as being like ''Degrassi''. Note that, in such a case, it is possible that they ''like'' ''Degrassi'' and just think all the others are redundant (since they're the same) and thus pointless -- in which case, they're likely a '''Rival Fan'''. Many times, they invoke the "TheyCopiedItSoItSucks" card and accuse ''everything'' of being a ripoff of something they consider quality, even works that came out [[OlderThanTheyThink before the work they like]].
* '''StopHavingFunGuys''': The StopHavingFunGuys will insist that everyone else is doing it wrong. They not only hate the other fans who enjoy it a specific way, but will also insult ''other haters''. These people are often known for having ''very'' specific single-issue criteria when they pick something new, which causes them to have ridiculously high standards. In the worst cases, they'll join a Hatedom because the work they tried to be a fan of was too...''different'' from what they normally like; instead of trying to adapt, they claim it to be crap and that [[FanHater everyone who likes it doesn't know what true fun is]]. Some of these people will go on tangents explaining ''one'' situation they had with a game and then insisting the entire game is like that. Many times; the hatred of new editions, updates, or sequels consist of these people who complain about how the developers are "punishing skill" amongst other things because they assessed widely exploited glitches and shortcomings. Read the article for some more specific examples.

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** '''The Mad Editor''': This is a subspecies of the above. This person frequently suggests a complete rewrite of the work, but they view it as improving it, even if it involves Flanderizing or Bowlderizing the work, [[CharacterDerailment completely derailing the characters]], or [[InNameOnly complete genre-shifts and abandoning the work in its entirety]]. This very often overlaps with the [[PeripheryHatedom Periphery Hate Dumb]]. These people often break out in vicious flamewars with types of FanDumb, making it [[GrayAndGrayMorality hard to discern who is who.]] Remember; Remember, constructive criticism is an attempt to tell the creator how they can do it better the way ''they'' want to, not how ''you'' want to.
** '''Made The Wrong Turn''': Similar to the Genre Alien, these are haters who are fans of a work that somehow directly offends their worldview or beliefs or something similar. Political conservatives who are fans of Creator/StephenColbert, for example, or homophobes that find themselves fans of Music/{{Queen}} or Music/XJapan, or fundamentalist Christians who somehow like Series/{{Supernatural}}.''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. Often overlaps with the Mad Editor (in that they will deny or change elements of the work that upset their personal morals, ''even if that's the point of the work''), the PC Crusader or the Un-PC Crusader (in that they will rail at whatever is offending them and the fans that are okay with it), the Demonizer, and/or the Mad Homophobe.
* '''[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks Everything is the same]]''': These haters are commonly known for having a minimalistic view of fandoms they don't belong to. Sometimes, entire franchises or genres will attract these types of haters. They will pull the "It's the exact same as this"-card, sometimes without even seeing it. They sometimes have no moderate or casual likes; they view ''everything'' they aren't an outright fan of narrowly. For instance, somebody who does ''not'' like High-School dramas might view every show set in high school as being like ''Degrassi''.''Series/{{Degrassi}}''. Note that, in such a case, it is possible that they ''like'' ''Degrassi'' and just think all the others are redundant (since they're the same) and thus pointless -- in which case, they're likely a '''Rival Fan'''. Many times, they invoke the "TheyCopiedItSoItSucks" card and accuse ''everything'' of being a ripoff of something they consider quality, even works that came out [[OlderThanTheyThink before the work they like]].
* '''StopHavingFunGuys''': The StopHavingFunGuys "Stop Having Fun" Guys will insist that everyone else is doing it wrong. They not only hate the other fans who enjoy it a specific way, but will also insult ''other haters''. These people are often known for having ''very'' specific single-issue criteria when they pick something new, which causes them to have ridiculously high standards. In the worst cases, they'll join a Hatedom because the work they tried to be a fan of was too...''different'' from what they normally like; instead of trying to adapt, they claim it to be crap and that [[FanHater everyone who likes it doesn't know what true fun is]]. Some of these people will go on tangents explaining ''one'' situation they had with a game and then insisting the entire game is like that. Many times; the hatred of new editions, updates, or sequels consist of these people who complain about how the developers are "punishing skill" amongst other things because they assessed widely exploited glitches and shortcomings. Read the article for some more specific examples.



* '''Downvoters''': Their behaviour can best be described as a cross between that of a rival fan and somebody complaining about shows they don't watch. As the name implies they main form of interest is to go on a review site and give any work on the same 'best' list that somehow got a higher score than the work they are a fan of a score of 0 or 1 out of 10. It does not matter to them whether or not the work is good, or even if they have seen it, the sheer fact that it scores higher on the same list is for them enough justification to give it a score that is that low. These type of haters (together with the FanDumb they may outbalance) can reduce the quality of a review site a lot and lots of review sites have taken measures to prevent this hatedom from doing what it does. (Lemon64 for instance, publishes below its own top 100 games list a list with the most controversial voters, which are people that gave a 1 or 2 out of 10 on the best list or 9 or 10 out of 10 on the 'worst list' in order to make it easier to see to who you should listen and to who not).

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* '''Downvoters''': Their behaviour can best be described as a cross between that of a rival fan and somebody complaining about shows they don't watch. As the name implies they their main form of interest is to go on a review site and give any work on the same 'best' list that somehow got a higher score than the work they are a fan of a score of 0 or 1 out of 10. It does not matter to them whether or not the work is good, or even if they have seen it, the sheer fact that it scores higher on the same list is for them enough justification to give it a score that is that low. These type of haters (together with the FanDumb they may outbalance) can reduce the quality of a review site a lot and lots of review sites have taken measures to prevent this hatedom from doing what it does. (Lemon64 for instance, publishes below its own top 100 games list a list with the most controversial voters, which are people that gave a 1 or 2 out of 10 on the best list or 9 or 10 out of 10 on the 'worst list' in order to make it easier to see to who you should listen and to who not).
7th Aug '16 8:21:41 AM KingLyger
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** '''Preemptive haters''': These guys ''really'' hate something. They seem to know almost everything about the object of their hate. The problem is, the work they hate hasn't been released. Often, it hasn't even been finished. These people are basing their hatedom on previews, teasers, and miscellaneous information floating around about the unreleased project; from it, they have constructed a picture of something they loathe intensely. This is more common in the internet age, since people can get all sorts of false information (and true info, for that matter) from FanDumb and other Hate Dumb; and when release dates are staggered, there can be preemptive haters on the same board as people who do have access to the work. {{Remake}}s of works are frequent targets of this -- people anticipate AdaptationDecay. On the bright side, the odds of getting a preemptive hater to see the work when the time comes is better than that for someone complaining about a ''extant'' show they don't watch.
* '''The Obsessed Hater''': They hate the show. They hate every one of the 42 hours per week they spend watching it. They hate every one of the 49 hours per week they spend blogging about it. They hate the crappy merchandise and only buy it all so that they can get a deeper knowledge of the many ways it's bad... It's the opposite of "Complaining about works one didn't take in". Being informed about the work so one isn't accused of blindly complaining [[TropesAreTools is good,]] but this hater takes it overboard by spending more time obsessing over their object of hate than the fans do. Expect some of these people to use the InsaneTrollLogic that somehow, ''because'' this show is still on, it affects the quality of the shows that ''they'' like. Corporate creators love this kind of Hate Dumb better than a lukewarm fandom -- it's more profitable, and gives them free advertisement. (They spread the show word of mouth, people actually see it to see how bad it really is...you get the picture. See the PeripheryDemographic of ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]'' for how effective advertisers these anti-fans can be). In a nutshell; this is the kind of person who claims to have been lost as a customer; yet they keep buying from you again and again...and sometimes even brings in ''new'' customers who try out of BileFascination and discover CriticalBacklash instead.

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** '''Preemptive haters''': '''The Preemptive Hater''': These guys ''really'' hate something. They seem to know almost everything about the object of their hate. The problem is, the work they hate hasn't been released. Often, it hasn't even been finished. These people are basing their hatedom on previews, teasers, and miscellaneous information floating around about the unreleased project; from it, they have constructed a picture of something they loathe intensely. This is more common in the internet age, since people can get all sorts of false information (and true info, for that matter) from FanDumb and other Hate Dumb; and when release dates are staggered, there can be preemptive haters on the same board as people who do have access to the work. {{Remake}}s of works are frequent targets of this -- people anticipate AdaptationDecay. On the bright side, the odds of getting a preemptive hater to see the work when the time comes is better than that for someone complaining about a ''extant'' show they don't watch.
* '''The Obsessed Hater''': They hate the show. They hate every one of the 42 hours per week they spend watching it. They hate every one of the 49 hours per week they spend blogging about it. They hate the crappy merchandise and only buy it all so that they can get a deeper knowledge of the many ways it's bad... It's the opposite of "Complaining about works one didn't take in". Being informed about the work so one isn't accused of blindly complaining [[TropesAreTools is good,]] a good thing,]] but this hater takes it overboard by spending more time obsessing over their object of hate than the fans do. do in liking it. Expect some of these people haters to use the InsaneTrollLogic that somehow, ''because'' this show is still on, it affects the quality of the shows that ''they'' like. Corporate creators love this kind of Hate Dumb better than a lukewarm fandom -- it's more profitable, and gives them free advertisement. (They spread the show word of mouth, people actually see it to see how bad it really is...you get the picture. See the PeripheryDemographic of ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]'' for how effective advertisers these anti-fans can be). In a nutshell; this is the kind of person who claims to have been lost as a customer; yet they keep buying from you again and again...and sometimes again. Sometimes they even brings in ''new'' customers who try out of BileFascination and discover CriticalBacklash instead.
7th Aug '16 8:13:52 AM KingLyger
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The bottom line is, it's okay to dislike a show/movie/game/book/character; but there are civil, socially acceptable ways of expressing that dislike, just like with expressing love for a character or medium.

Of course, much like fan dumb, hate dumb are usually just a {{vocal minority}}. Sometimes it's not even considered part of the hatedom. [[SilentMajority Most of them]], including yourself (unless you actually do fit this, and you won't know if you do) are pretty respectful when it comes to critiquing a show or will simply just ignore it as they fully know that they won't enjoy the show and let the fans be.

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The bottom line is, is this: it's okay to dislike a show/movie/game/book/character; but show/movie/game/book/character/whatever. But there are civil, socially acceptable ways of expressing that dislike, just like with expressing love for a character or medium.

medium. It's going too far in disliking something that dislike becomes hate dumb.

Of course, much like fan dumb, hate dumb are usually just a {{vocal minority}}.minority}} of people who don't like something. Sometimes it's not even considered part of the hatedom. [[SilentMajority Most of them]], including yourself (unless you actually do fit this, and you won't know if you do) are pretty respectful when it comes to critiquing a show work, or will simply just ignore it as they fully know that they won't enjoy the show work and let the fans be.



Not to be confused with {{hatedom}}, which is the ''intelligent'' version of this. Well... the ''less stupid'' version, anyway .

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Not to be confused with {{hatedom}}, which is the ''intelligent'' intelligent version of this. Well... the ''less stupid'' version, anyway .
anyway.
27th Jun '16 1:48:35 PM DoctorTItanX
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** '''The Revenge Troll''': This is a hater who is hate-obsessed indeed, but they appear to have taken their hatred to [[ItsPersonal personal levels]]. This may overlap with the '''Author Haters''' as well. Expect them to constantly wish for the work's demise, or for the author to retire, obsessing about it like they want revenge on something. They may often misblame the object of their hatred to have caused their favourite show to be canceled, or act more like [[YouKilledMyFather the show or the author snuck into their house at night and murdered their family while they slept]]. However; in the more extreme examples, some people will even cross the MoralEventHorizon, wishing not just cancellation on the show but wishing for the author or the creators and/or writers of the show[[note]]or sometimes even ''everyone'' who was ever involved with the show (the main actors, the set-designers, actors who made a one-shot appearance on the show and never appeared on it again after that, the sky's the limit)[[/note]] to have terrible things happen to them in real life. This is even more off-putting because they are wishing this on other ''real people'', not just characters from other realities. The ones who take it that far often overlap with the InternetToughGuy (what better way to creep people out than to threaten or publicly wish harm on another human being?).

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** '''The Revenge Troll''': This is a hater who is hate-obsessed indeed, but they appear to have taken their hatred to [[ItsPersonal personal levels]]. This may overlap with the '''Author Haters''' as well. Expect them to constantly wish for the work's demise, or for the author to retire, obsessing about it like they want revenge on something. They may often misblame the object of their hatred to have caused their favourite show to be canceled, or act more like [[YouKilledMyFather the show or the author snuck into their house at night and murdered their family while they slept]]. However; in the more extreme examples, some people will even cross the MoralEventHorizon, wishing not just cancellation on the show show, but wishing for the author or the creators and/or writers of the show[[note]]or sometimes even ''everyone'' who was ever involved with the show (the main actors, the set-designers, actors who made a one-shot appearance on the show and never appeared on it again after that, the sky's the limit)[[/note]] to have terrible things happen to them in real life. This is even more off-putting because they are wishing this on other ''real people'', not just characters from other realities. realities through fiction. The ones who take it that far often overlap with the InternetToughGuy (what better way to creep people out than to intentionally threaten or publicly wish harm on another human being?).
27th Jun '16 1:42:50 PM DoctorTItanX
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** '''The Revenge Troll''': This is a hater who is hate-obsessed indeed, but they appear to have taken their hatred to [[ItsPersonal personal levels]]. This may overlap with the '''Author Haters''' as well. Expect them to constantly wish for the work's demise, or for the author to retire, obsessing about it like they want revenge on something. They may often misblame the object of their hatred to have caused their favourite show to be canceled, or act more like [[YouKilledMyFather the show or the author snuck into their house at night and murdered their family while they slept]]. However; in the more extreme examples, some people will even cross the MoralEventHorizon, wishing not just cancellation on the show but wishing for the author or the creators and/or writers of the show[[note]]or sometimes even ''everyone'' who was ever involved with the show (the main actors, the set-designers, actors who made a one-shot appearance on the show and never appeared on it again after that, the sky's the limit)[[/note]] to have terrible things happen to them in real life. This is even more off-putting because they are wishing this on ''real people'', not just fictional characters. The ones who take it that far often overlap with the InternetToughGuy (what better way to creep people out than to threaten or publicly wish harm on another human being?).

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** '''The Revenge Troll''': This is a hater who is hate-obsessed indeed, but they appear to have taken their hatred to [[ItsPersonal personal levels]]. This may overlap with the '''Author Haters''' as well. Expect them to constantly wish for the work's demise, or for the author to retire, obsessing about it like they want revenge on something. They may often misblame the object of their hatred to have caused their favourite show to be canceled, or act more like [[YouKilledMyFather the show or the author snuck into their house at night and murdered their family while they slept]]. However; in the more extreme examples, some people will even cross the MoralEventHorizon, wishing not just cancellation on the show but wishing for the author or the creators and/or writers of the show[[note]]or sometimes even ''everyone'' who was ever involved with the show (the main actors, the set-designers, actors who made a one-shot appearance on the show and never appeared on it again after that, the sky's the limit)[[/note]] to have terrible things happen to them in real life. This is even more off-putting because they are wishing this on other ''real people'', not just fictional characters.characters from other realities. The ones who take it that far often overlap with the InternetToughGuy (what better way to creep people out than to threaten or publicly wish harm on another human being?).
6th May '16 1:49:58 PM rjd1922
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* '''Fan Hater:''' These cannot dislike a work ''and'' accept that it appeals to other people. [[OpinionMyopia How dare someone have such bad taste?]] They simply aren't content to live and let live. {{Fan Hater}}s are prone to blindly bashing fans and stereotyping them all into one or two categories of people (example: Celebrity magazines are only bought by gay men, morbidly obese middle aged housewives, and people who need to line their bird cages!). Sometimes, they might even say that people are "only pretending to like the object of their contempt" (because they're "sheep" or whatever). These people seem to see themselves as the "Average" demographic, and when someone likes something they don't, they become unable to see ''why''. (The [[ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow inverse]] happens, too) It doesn't matter whether most of the fandom fits this description or not. Often prone to making up stories about FanDumb ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow. Many times, these people are acting like FanFiction and Fan Art itself somehow affects the actual quality of what the author's writing (Many of which have ''never'' read the fanfiction in the first place) of the show.[[note]] Some who actually ''do'' acknowledge the fanfiction, don't use it to perpetuate a negative image of the {{Fandom}}, but still bicker over it, are more rival fans and Fandumb[[/note]] Fan Haters may often judge a show's quality based ''entirely'' off of its fans, whilst ignoring the other FanDumb of their own interests. Mentioning any of the Fandom that's ''not'' fitting this stereotype will often result in something similar to NoTrueScotsman. In the minds of {{Fan Hater}}s, there is no such thing as Fandom. There is only FanDumb.

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* '''Fan Hater:''' '''FanHater:''' These cannot dislike a work ''and'' accept that it appeals to other people. [[OpinionMyopia How dare someone have such bad taste?]] They simply aren't content to live and let live. {{Fan Hater}}s Fan Haters are prone to blindly bashing fans and stereotyping them all into one or two categories of people (example: Celebrity magazines are only bought by gay men, morbidly obese middle aged housewives, and people who need to line their bird cages!). Sometimes, they might even say that people are "only pretending to like the object of their contempt" (because they're "sheep" or whatever). These people seem to see themselves as the "Average" demographic, and when someone likes something they don't, they become unable to see ''why''. (The [[ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow inverse]] happens, too) It doesn't matter whether most of the fandom fits this description or not. Often prone to making up stories about FanDumb ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow. Many times, these people are acting like FanFiction and Fan Art itself somehow affects the actual quality of what the author's writing (Many of which have ''never'' read the fanfiction in the first place) of the show.[[note]] Some who actually ''do'' acknowledge the fanfiction, don't use it to perpetuate a negative image of the {{Fandom}}, but still bicker over it, are more rival fans and Fandumb[[/note]] Fan Haters may often judge a show's quality based ''entirely'' off of its fans, whilst ignoring the other FanDumb of their own interests. Mentioning any of the Fandom that's ''not'' fitting this stereotype will often result in something similar to NoTrueScotsman. In the minds of {{Fan Hater}}s, there is no such thing as Fandom. There is only FanDumb.
1st May '16 1:35:58 PM SuckerPerpetrator
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* '''The PC Crusader:''': If there's a minority in a work of fiction, '''[[EverythingIsRacist it's racist,]] [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad homophobic, sexist trash.]]''' [[UnpleasableFanbase No matter how a character belonging to a minority is treated]], the PC Crusader will find a way to make the author sound like they are single-handedly restoring blackface and bigotry to fiction. Black character who happens to help the protagonists somehow? MagicalNegro. A black villain? UnfortunateImplications! A feminine woman? RealWomenNeverWearDresses! A tomboy? A flat fetishistic macho fantasy! A disabled character attempting to overcome hurdles? InspirationallyDisadvantaged! And so on and so forth. Any discussion of bigotry, no matter how negatively portrayed, automatically makes those who made it bigots, regardless of how anti-bigotry it is. Some ironically stereotype entire mediums because of certain works displaying misogyny/homophobia (it's okay to stereotype ''when we do it!''), blame everything on white people (it's not racist ''when we do it!''), and others grasp at straws to get offended. Needless to say, the only thing worse than putting minority characters into a work is ''not'' [[MonochromeCasting putting minority characters into a work]], even in works going for historical accuracy where including anyone outside of a specific race would be objectively inaccurate.

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* '''The PC Crusader:''': If there's a minority in a work of fiction, '''[[EverythingIsRacist it's racist,]] [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad homophobic, sexist trash.]]''' [[UnpleasableFanbase No matter how a character belonging to a minority is treated]], the PC Crusader will find a way to make the author sound like they are single-handedly restoring blackface and bigotry to fiction. Black character who happens to help the protagonists somehow? MagicalNegro. A black villain? UnfortunateImplications! A feminine woman? RealWomenNeverWearDresses! A tomboy? A flat fetishistic macho fantasy! A disabled character attempting to overcome hurdles? InspirationallyDisadvantaged! And so on and so forth. Any discussion of bigotry, no matter how negatively portrayed, automatically makes those who made it bigots, regardless of how anti-bigotry it is. Some ironically stereotype Oftentimes dismissing entire mediums because of certain works displaying misogyny/homophobia (it's okay to stereotype ''when we do it!''), blame everything genres based on white people (it's not racist ''when we do it!''), and others grasp at straws to get offended.select media showing bigotry, imagined or otherwise. Needless to say, the only thing worse than putting minority characters into a work is ''not'' [[MonochromeCasting putting minority characters into a work]], even in works going for historical accuracy where including anyone outside of a specific race would be objectively inaccurate.
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