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13th Jan '18 4:37:21 PM Sakubara
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* '''The Copycat Accuser''': These haters will complain, or worse - cry plagiarism, at the slightest sign of similarity with another work. It doesn't occur that nearly every work throughout history draws inspiration from those that came before it - if it's not a [[JustForFun/TheTropelessTale tropeless tale]], it's a clone of another work. This almost always overlaps with another variation of Hate Dumb, and is used to enhance excuses rather than establish them, because otherwise, this would apply to literally every work in existence. Most commonly, this will overlap with '''Author Hater''' (hating on the work because of its author), '''The Rival Fan''' (accusing the work of copying the work the hater ''does'' like) or '''Bandwagon Hater''' (accusing the work of being a copycat because others have)

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* '''The Copycat Accuser''': These haters will complain, or worse - cry plagiarism, at the slightest sign of similarity with another work. In other words, they live and breathe "TheyCopiedItSoItSucks" It doesn't occur that nearly every work throughout history draws inspiration from those that came before it - if it's not a [[JustForFun/TheTropelessTale tropeless tale]], it's a clone of another work. This almost always overlaps with another variation of Hate Dumb, and is used to enhance excuses rather than establish them, because otherwise, this would apply to literally every work in existence. Most commonly, this will overlap with '''Author Hater''' (hating on the work because of its author), '''The Rival Fan''' (accusing the work of copying the work the hater ''does'' like) or '''Bandwagon Hater''' (accusing the work of being a copycat because others have)
5th Nov '17 10:01:51 AM Ulkomaalainen
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* '''The Purist''': One of the most wide encompassing forms of Hate Dumb, and arguably, an unholy abomination of ''multiple'' kinds of Haters rolled into one entitled person. Purists have an ideal vision on how a franchise can go, but sometimes, Purists can go ''several'' steps beyond just having an ideal view of a franchise. '''The Purist''' can ''also'' have an idealized view of ''the fandom'' of a particular franchise, and even in worst cases, the ''entire market''. Naturally, many of these guys [[FanHater tend to hate franchises based solely off of the fans themselves]], often citing the fandom as one of the reasons they dislike a franchise, sometimes not even giving it a chance. The Purist also does not stop at just hating fans, but also, they believe that they are the centre (And largest contributer) of the entire market, thus, any and all executive decisions should not be made without consulting them first. Any new demographic being brought into the market, or a simple shift in demographic will not only get the FanDumb crying, but also the haters, because they will ''hate'' these newcomers to the market with almost every passion of their being. Because The Purist has a ''very'' idealised vision of their own fandom; naturally, they are often the type to declare new fans to [[NoTrueScotsman "not be true fans"]] of the series, any new entries to [[FanonDiscontinuity "not be true entries]]". ''VERY'' prone to TheyChangedItNowItSucks-type arguments. There are also versions of the Purist who will simply point out any shift/expansion in demographic to be a reason ''why'' it sucks. Amongst long essays about how new Johnny-Come-Latelys have ruined the market/fandom/show forever, [[ItsPopularNowItSucks as well as how it was better when it wasn't popular]], also expect Slippery Slope type arguments about ''why'' it is bad, and how they expect FollowTheLeader to come against them. (Once more, mentioning a ''similar'' argument about any FollowTheLeader type stuff against ''your'' interests will not be responded to, at best, or countered with an essay on how wrong you are and how you have no taste, if not a HandWave.)

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* '''The Purist''': One of the most wide encompassing forms of Hate Dumb, and arguably, an unholy abomination of ''multiple'' kinds of Haters rolled into one entitled person. Purists have an ideal vision on how a franchise can go, but sometimes, Purists can go ''several'' steps beyond just having an ideal view of a franchise. '''The Purist''' can ''also'' have an idealized view of ''the fandom'' of a particular franchise, and even in worst cases, the ''entire market''. Naturally, many of these guys [[FanHater tend to hate franchises based solely off of the fans themselves]], often citing the fandom as one of the reasons they dislike a franchise, sometimes not even giving it a chance. The Purist also does not stop at just hating fans, but also, they believe that they are the centre (And (and largest contributer) of the entire market, thus, any and all executive decisions should not be made without consulting them first. Any new demographic being brought into the market, or a simple shift in demographic will not only get the FanDumb crying, but also the haters, because they will ''hate'' these newcomers to the market with almost every passion of their being. Because The Purist has a ''very'' idealised vision of their own fandom; naturally, they are often the type to declare new fans to [[NoTrueScotsman "not be true fans"]] of the series, any new entries to [[FanonDiscontinuity "not be true entries]]". ''VERY'' prone to TheyChangedItNowItSucks-type arguments. There are also versions of the Purist who will simply point out any shift/expansion in demographic to be a reason ''why'' it sucks. Amongst long essays about how new Johnny-Come-Latelys have ruined the market/fandom/show forever, [[ItsPopularNowItSucks as well as how it was better when it wasn't popular]], also expect Slippery Slope type arguments about ''why'' it is bad, and how they expect FollowTheLeader to come against them. (Once more, mentioning a ''similar'' argument about any FollowTheLeader type stuff against ''your'' interests will not be responded to, at best, or countered with an essay on how wrong you are and how you have no taste, if not a HandWave.)
4th Nov '17 2:34:46 PM Ulkomaalainen
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** '''The Chronic Flouncer''': He is so done with the show, and he will tell you so with an epic post detailing just how much he hates it now and how much better the first season was, capping his post with a seemingly final goodbye to everyone because have we mentioned that he is completely and utterly done with this terrible show? He's dunzo. Finished. Over it. Until next week, at least, when he's back to complain yet again about the next episode, which he took the time to watch, then complain bitterly about its terrible quality. Afterward, he announces yet again that he is done ''for really, really, real this time!'' Don't get too comfortable with his absence, because he'll be back not only for next week's episode but for the next season as well, which he will, of course, vow in his weekly farewell address to not watch even at gunpoint.

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** '''The Chronic Flouncer''': He is so done with the show, and he will tell you so with an epic post detailing just how much he hates it now and how much better the first season was, capping his post with a seemingly final goodbye to everyone because have we mentioned that he is completely and utterly done with this terrible show? He's dunzo. Finished. Over it. Until next week, at least, when he's back to complain yet again about the next episode, which he took the time to watch, then complain bitterly about its terrible quality. Afterward, Afterwards, he announces yet again that he is done ''for really, really, real this time!'' Don't get too comfortable with his absence, because he'll be back not only for next week's episode but for the next season as well, which he will, of course, vow in his weekly farewell address to not watch even at gunpoint.
24th Sep '17 5:50:39 PM nombretomado
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** '''Review Trolls'''. These are people who actively go on user review sites such as Amazon.com or Metacritic and post 1 star reviews for pretty much anything within their respective hatedom. They might have never even seen/heard/played the work in question. They'll just post a one to three sentence "review", [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike saying that the work sucks without really describing why.]] In some cases, they might even create multiple accounts posting one star reviews for the work (or works) in question just to bring down the average review score. Alternatively, on sites that allow users to rate reviews as "Helpful" or "Not Helpful," they might hit "Not Helpful" for any positive (or even average) review of the work in question, regardless of how well written or informative the review is, while hitting "Helpful" for any one star reviews they come across (even the most poorly constructed ones). They might even create one or more alternate accounts specifically to write multiple one star reviews for the same work, hit "Helpful" for one of their very own reviews or for somebody else's (usually a fellow Review Troll's) one star review. Or to hit "Not Helpful" for somebody else's five star review. Needless to say, such people can seriously bring down the quality of a review page and irritate prospective buyers or actual fans of the work. These people crop up in FanDumb as well.

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** '''Review Trolls'''. These are people who actively go on user review sites such as Amazon.com or Metacritic and post 1 star reviews for pretty much anything within their respective hatedom. They might have never even seen/heard/played the work in question. They'll just post a one to three sentence "review", [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike saying that the work sucks without really describing why.]] In some cases, they might even create multiple accounts posting one star reviews for the work (or works) in question just to bring down the average review score. Alternatively, on sites that allow users to rate reviews as "Helpful" or "Not Helpful," they might hit "Not Helpful" for any positive (or even average) review of the work in question, regardless of how well written or informative the review is, while hitting "Helpful" for any one star reviews they come across (even the most poorly constructed ones). They might even create one or more alternate accounts specifically to write multiple one star reviews for the same work, hit "Helpful" for one of their very own reviews or for somebody else's (usually a fellow Review Troll's) one star review. Or to hit "Not Helpful" for somebody else's five star review. Needless to say, such people can seriously bring down the quality of a review page and irritate prospective buyers or actual fans of the work. These people crop up in FanDumb as well.
15th Aug '17 8:10:21 PM CHLORINEGARGOYLE
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** '''The Un-PC Crusader''': What's that? The creator of my favorite work has decided to drop a very stereotypical character/issue, apologized to offended parties, made this work as a protest against stereotypes, and/or has spoken out against media portrayals of a minority? Now they're shoving their opinions down your throat/kowtowing to [=SJWs=]! The Un-PC Crusader will, at the slightest hint of a show displaying supposed PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad take it as a sign of the wimpification of society, exercise their right to free speech by being horribly racist and often make "edgy", "ironic" offensive jokes, make long screeds on why not having problematic material hurts straight white males and the fandom, or rush to defend actually racist/sexist/homophobic/whathaveyou practices and trends in the guise of 'free speech' - if they're not actual white supremacists or virulent homophobes.

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** '''The Un-PC Crusader''': What's that? The creator of my favorite work has decided to drop a very stereotypical character/issue, apologized to offended parties, made this work as a protest against stereotypes, and/or has spoken out against media portrayals of a minority? Now they're shoving their opinions down your throat/kowtowing to [=SJWs=]! The Un-PC Crusader will, at the slightest hint of a show displaying supposed PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad, take it as a sign of the wimpification of society, exercise their right to free speech by being horribly racist and often make "edgy", "ironic" offensive jokes, harass and flame fans for being "[=SJWs=]", make long screeds on why not having problematic material hurts straight white males and the fandom, or rush to defend actually racist/sexist/homophobic/whathaveyou practices and trends in the guise of 'free speech' - if they're not actual white supremacists or virulent homophobes.
7th Aug '17 8:24:41 PM CHLORINEGARGOYLE
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** '''The Un-PC Crusader''': What's that? The creator of my favorite work has decided to drop a very stereotypical character/issue, apologized to offended parties, made this work as a protest against stereotypes, and/or has spoken out against media portrayals of a minority? Now they're shoving their opinions down your throat/kowtowing to [=SJWs=]! The Un-PC Crusader will, at the slightest hint of a show displaying supposed PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad take it as a sign of the wimpification of society, exercise their right to free speech by being horribly racist and often make "edgy", "ironic" offensive jokes, make long screeds on why not having problematic material hurts straight white males and the fandom, or rush to defend actually racist/sexist/homophobic/whathaveyou practices and trends in the guise of 'free speech'.

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** '''The Un-PC Crusader''': What's that? The creator of my favorite work has decided to drop a very stereotypical character/issue, apologized to offended parties, made this work as a protest against stereotypes, and/or has spoken out against media portrayals of a minority? Now they're shoving their opinions down your throat/kowtowing to [=SJWs=]! The Un-PC Crusader will, at the slightest hint of a show displaying supposed PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad take it as a sign of the wimpification of society, exercise their right to free speech by being horribly racist and often make "edgy", "ironic" offensive jokes, make long screeds on why not having problematic material hurts straight white males and the fandom, or rush to defend actually racist/sexist/homophobic/whathaveyou practices and trends in the guise of 'free speech'.speech' - if they're not actual white supremacists or virulent homophobes.



** [[TheHorseshoeEffect And there are even times when the PC and un-PC Crusaders are]] NotSoDifferent after all. For example, they both tend to to be most vocal when it comes to [[RaceLift a character getting an unexpected skin tone change in an adaptation]] but they do it for opposed reasons : when a minority is changed into a majority, the PC Crusader blames Hollywood for being racist and/or appealing to the LowestCommonDenominator, while in the inverse situation, the un-PC Crusader blames Hollywood for getting too PC and/or foreign countries for failing to have white actors playing white characters.
22nd Apr '17 10:59:01 AM ZerbuTabek
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* '''The Copycat Accuser''': These haters will complain, or worse - cry plagiarism, at the slightest sign of similarity with another work. It doesn't occur that nearly every work throughout history draws inspiration from those that came before it - if it's not a [[JustForFun/TheTropelessTale tropeless tale]], it's a clone of another work. This almost always overlaps with another variation of Hate Dumb, and is used to enhance excuses rather than establish them, because otherwise, this would apply to literally every work in existence.

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* '''The Copycat Accuser''': These haters will complain, or worse - cry plagiarism, at the slightest sign of similarity with another work. It doesn't occur that nearly every work throughout history draws inspiration from those that came before it - if it's not a [[JustForFun/TheTropelessTale tropeless tale]], it's a clone of another work. This almost always overlaps with another variation of Hate Dumb, and is used to enhance excuses rather than establish them, because otherwise, this would apply to literally every work in existence. Most commonly, this will overlap with '''Author Hater''' (hating on the work because of its author), '''The Rival Fan''' (accusing the work of copying the work the hater ''does'' like) or '''Bandwagon Hater''' (accusing the work of being a copycat because others have)
22nd Apr '17 10:52:35 AM ZerbuTabek
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* '''The Copycat Accuser''': These haters will complain, or worse - cry plagiarism, at the slightest sign of similarity with another work. It doesn't occur that nearly every work throughout history draws inspiration from those that came before it - if it's not a [[JustForFun/TheTropelessTale tropeless tale]], it's a clone of another work. This almost always overlaps with another variation of Hate Dumb, and is used to enhance excuses rather than establish them, because otherwise, this would apply to literally every work in existence.
12th Apr '17 2:15:32 PM ZerbuTabek
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** '''The Preemptive Hater''': These guys ''really'' hate something. They seem to know almost everything about the object of their hate. The problem is, the work they hate hasn't been released. Often, it hasn't even been finished. These people are basing their hatedom on previews, teasers, and miscellaneous information floating around about the unreleased project; from it, they have constructed a picture of something they loathe intensely. This is more common in the internet age, since people can get all sorts of false information (and true info, for that matter) from FanDumb and other Hate Dumb; and when release dates are staggered, there can be preemptive haters on the same board as people who do have access to the work. {{Remake}}s of works are frequent targets of this -- people anticipate AdaptationDecay. On the bright side, the odds of getting a preemptive hater to see the work when the time comes is better than that for someone complaining about a ''extant'' show they don't watch.

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** '''The Preemptive Hater''': These guys ''really'' hate something. They seem to know almost everything about the object of their hate. The problem is, the work they hate hasn't been released. Often, it hasn't even been finished. These people are basing their hatedom on previews, teasers, and miscellaneous information floating around about the unreleased project; from it, they have constructed a picture of something they loathe intensely. In some cases, the hate may be based on information that was [[StrawmanFallacy never conveyed in the first place]], but is treated as confirmed fact. This is more common in the internet age, since people can get all sorts of false information (and true info, for that matter) from FanDumb and other Hate Dumb; and when release dates are staggered, there can be preemptive haters on the same board as people who do have access to the work. {{Remake}}s of works are frequent targets of this -- people anticipate AdaptationDecay. On the bright side, the odds of getting a preemptive hater to see the work when the time comes is better than that for someone complaining about a ''extant'' show they don't watch.
4th Apr '17 12:53:10 PM anty21
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** [[HorseshoeTheory And there are even times when the PC and un-PC Crusaders are]] NotSoDifferent after all. For example, they both tend to to be most vocal when it comes to [[RaceLift a character getting an unexpected skin tone change in an adaptation]] but they do it for opposed reasons : when a minority is changed into a majority, the PC Crusader blames Hollywood for being racist and/or appealing to the LowestCommonDenominator, while in the inverse situation, the un-PC Crusader blames Hollywood for getting too PC and/or foreign countries for failing to have white actors playing white characters.

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** [[HorseshoeTheory [[TheHorseshoeEffect And there are even times when the PC and un-PC Crusaders are]] NotSoDifferent after all. For example, they both tend to to be most vocal when it comes to [[RaceLift a character getting an unexpected skin tone change in an adaptation]] but they do it for opposed reasons : when a minority is changed into a majority, the PC Crusader blames Hollywood for being racist and/or appealing to the LowestCommonDenominator, while in the inverse situation, the un-PC Crusader blames Hollywood for getting too PC and/or foreign countries for failing to have white actors playing white characters.
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