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8th Dec '17 4:48:19 PM MasterN
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* Works where the main antagonist is too [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain non-threatening]] to really hate.

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* Works where the main antagonist is too [[AntiVillain sympathetic]] and/or [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain non-threatening]] to really hate.



See also VillainyFreeVillain. The {{Heel}} is a variant specific to ProfessionalWrestling.

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See also VillainyFreeVillain.VillainyFreeVillain, when the character doesn’t even do anything particularly evil but just acts like a {{Jerkass}}. The {{Heel}} is a variant specific to ProfessionalWrestling.
2nd Dec '17 11:32:36 AM hubakon1368
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* ''FanFic/MykanTributeFallOfStarfleetRiseOfHarmony'': Shared between Grand Ruler Celesto and Rhymey. For the former, you will at first hate him for the lengths he goes to undermine his own allies despite them winning his battles just because they aren't his privileged people and aren't fully under his control... and then be utterly disgusted by how deep his ControlFreak issues goes, and how much he relies on outright brainwashing for everyone, ''including'' his closest soldiers. For the latter... the author was intending to make him sympathetic, as had been done with the rest of Lightning's team, but genuinely couldn't. Pushing him in the other direction worked better, and he's since been revealed as unlikeable, entitled and completely sociopathic who literally has no second thoughts about hurting anyone in order to get what he wants. [[spoiler:Turns out it's a family trait.]] Ironically, Dark Conquest wants to be this in-story since he feeds on hate and grows stronger from it, but since he has much more style and charisma, and is not nearly as much of a hypocrite, he's more entertaining to watch.

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* ''FanFic/MykanTributeFallOfStarfleetRiseOfHarmony'': ''Fanfic/FallOfStarfleetRebirthOfFriendship'': Shared between Grand Ruler Celesto and Rhymey. For the former, you will at first hate him for the lengths he goes to undermine his own allies despite them winning his battles just because they aren't his privileged people and aren't fully under his control... and then be utterly disgusted by how deep his ControlFreak issues goes, and how much he relies on outright brainwashing for everyone, ''including'' his closest soldiers. For the latter... the author was intending to make him sympathetic, as had been done with the rest of Lightning's team, but genuinely couldn't. Pushing him in the other direction worked better, and he's since been revealed as unlikeable, entitled and completely sociopathic who literally has no second thoughts about hurting anyone in order to get what he wants. [[spoiler:Turns out it's a family trait.]] Ironically, Dark Conquest wants to be this in-story since he feeds on hate and grows stronger from it, but since he has much more style and charisma, and is not nearly as much of a hypocrite, he's more entertaining to watch.
26th Nov '17 8:36:32 PM DracMonster
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* Subtly set up and then [[ChekovsGun set off]] with Getaway in ''ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye.'' Originally introduced as another wacky {{Sixth Ranger}} {{Lancer}} for the core cast, they slowly set up his more unsettling tendencies over the course of several issues, giving him a discomforting WifeHusbandry subtext with [[TheIngenue Tailgate]] before pushing into the distressing reveal that he's a {{Sociopath}}ic Knight Templar, dedicated to making Decepticons pay for their crimes...including a [[HeelFaceTurn reformed]] ''Megatron,'' who's now co-captain of the Lost Light. He doesn't hesitate to play on Tailgate's needs for affection and validation as a catspaw to try and make Megatron lash out, not caring if the Minibot were to be killed in the process (and actually hoping for it, to justify Megatron's subsequent execution). He later abandons the core cast on a planet at the mercy of TheDreaded [[SecretPolice Decepticon Justice Division]] all to get Megatron killed in some form or fashion as punishment for his not-inconsiderable crimes--again, without worrying if the other Autobots survive because, well, they supported Megatron, they must deserve it. Quite a few fans actually LoveToHate him because he is one of the most ruthlessly competent and morally gray (if not outright evil) Autobots we've actually ever seen in the franchise--other openly evil Autobots are usually complete nutters like Flame, or MirrorUniverse equivalents of our heroes.

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* Subtly set up and then [[ChekovsGun [[ChekhovsGun set off]] with Getaway in ''ComicBook/TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye.'' Originally introduced as another wacky {{Sixth Ranger}} {{Lancer}} for the core cast, they slowly set up his more unsettling tendencies over the course of several issues, giving him a discomforting WifeHusbandry subtext with [[TheIngenue Tailgate]] before pushing into the distressing reveal that he's a {{Sociopath}}ic Knight Templar, dedicated to making Decepticons pay for their crimes...including a [[HeelFaceTurn reformed]] ''Megatron,'' who's now co-captain of the Lost Light. He doesn't hesitate to play on Tailgate's needs for affection and validation as a catspaw to try and make Megatron lash out, not caring if the Minibot were to be killed in the process (and actually hoping for it, to justify Megatron's subsequent execution). He later abandons the core cast on a planet at the mercy of TheDreaded [[SecretPolice Decepticon Justice Division]] all to get Megatron killed in some form or fashion as punishment for his not-inconsiderable crimes--again, without worrying if the other Autobots survive because, well, they supported Megatron, they must deserve it. Quite a few fans actually LoveToHate him because he is one of the most ruthlessly competent and morally gray (if not outright evil) Autobots we've actually ever seen in the franchise--other openly evil Autobots are usually complete nutters like Flame, or MirrorUniverse equivalents of our heroes.
23rd Nov '17 9:21:19 PM dinner101
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* ''FanFic/LuansProblem'' has Ms. Bitterns, a ''[[SadistTeacher very]]'' [[SadistTeacher nasty elementary teacher]] who enjoys humiliating and verbally abusing her students. It got to the point that [[TheWoobie Luan]] nearly worked herself to death.
12th Oct '17 2:11:12 PM wildmacaroni
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* [[CountryMatters Cuntons]] of ''Webcomic/VeganArtbook''—who's intended as a [[TakeThat jab]] at someone whom the author hates—is portrayed as a raging JerkAss, kills animals ForTheEvulz, is drawn much [[{{Gonk}} uglier]] than the rest of the cast. As if her name didn't tip you off. Despite all of that, she is still considered an EnsembleDarkhorse among the non-extreme vegan fans.

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* [[CountryMatters Cuntons]] of ''Webcomic/VeganArtbook''—who's intended as a [[TakeThat jab]] at someone whom the author hates—is portrayed as a raging JerkAss, kills animals ForTheEvulz, is drawn much [[{{Gonk}} uglier]] than the rest of the cast. As if her name didn't tip you off. Despite all of that, she is still considered an EnsembleDarkhorse among the non-extreme vegan fans.readers.
12th Oct '17 2:10:07 PM wildmacaroni
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* [[CountryMatters Cuntons]] of ''Webcomic/VeganArtbook''—who's intended as a [[TakeThat jab]] at someone whom the author hates—is a raging JerkAss, kills animals ForTheEvulz, is drawn much [[{{Gonk}} uglier]] than the rest of the cast and has no redeeming features or FreudianExcuse like Shawn does. As if her name didn't tip you off.

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* [[CountryMatters Cuntons]] of ''Webcomic/VeganArtbook''—who's intended as a [[TakeThat jab]] at someone whom the author hates—is portrayed as a raging JerkAss, kills animals ForTheEvulz, is drawn much [[{{Gonk}} uglier]] than the rest of the cast and has no redeeming features or FreudianExcuse like Shawn does.cast. As if her name didn't tip you off. Despite all of that, she is still considered an EnsembleDarkhorse among the non-extreme vegan fans.
8th Oct '17 8:46:33 AM FoxBluereaver
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** Dario. While his actions in the main story are offscreen, the Big P oneshot makes it quite clear he's just as unrepentant a cheater as in canon who not only puts his fellow racers in serious danger, but when he loses he has the gall to accuse Ash of cheating. Needless to say [[spoiler: his fate is well deserved]].
** Ash's father. It's made quite clear in the narrative that he is not a good guy in the narrative for a variety of reasons. Delia refuses to acknowledge him as Ash's father, Gary, deep in his jerk phase, would give him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech over his actions, and [[spoiler: not only is it hinted he's a criminal whose fellow brothers/criminals have shown themselves to be incredibly violent and unstable, but it's implied that he has ''hundreds'' of illegimate children like Ash who he never cared for everywhere]].

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** Dario. While his actions in the main story are offscreen, the Big P Pokémon Race oneshot makes it quite clear he's just as unrepentant a cheater as in canon who not only puts his fellow racers in serious danger, but when he loses he has the gall to accuse Ash of cheating. Needless to say [[spoiler: when Sabrina gets her hands on him and snaps his neck, his fate is well deserved]].
** Ash's father. It's made quite clear in the narrative that he is not a good guy in the narrative for a variety of reasons. Delia refuses to acknowledge him as Ash's father, Gary, deep in his jerk phase, would give him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech over his actions, and [[spoiler: not only is it hinted he's a criminal whose fellow brothers/criminals have shown themselves to be incredibly violent and unstable, but it's implied that he has ''hundreds'' of illegimate children like Ash who he never cared for everywhere]]. everywhere]].
** Damian was pretty much a {{Jerkass}} in canon, but the Charmander Gaiden oneshot shows the full extent of how he treats his Pokémon when they don't live up to his expectations. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Team Rocket was appalled by this behavior.]]
20th Sep '17 8:22:02 PM MarkLungo
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* Stories set in a prison, the army, or some other institutional setting which is regarded as an unpleasant but necessary piece of social equipment.

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* Stories set in a prison, the army, military, or some other institutional setting which is regarded as an unpleasant but necessary piece of social equipment.
20th Sep '17 8:19:37 PM MarkLungo
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->''Even though [Bonnie] was still loved by some, I wanted her to be generally hated so aside from the other things to make her a bitch (racism, sexism, homophobia) I wanted to make her appear as Sue-ish as possible. I wanted people to get sick of her, which thankfully did happen. I didn’t want the Russell Fan Factor with her where a major villain gets loved, because I had planned for her downfall to be the defining moment in the season, and for that to happen I needed it to be satisfying. And what better way to make people root against someone other than make them… evil and rotten and hated.''

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->''Even ->''"Even though [Bonnie] was still loved by some, I wanted her to be generally hated so aside from the other things to make her a bitch (racism, sexism, homophobia) I wanted to make her appear as Sue-ish as possible. I wanted people to get sick of her, which thankfully did happen. I didn’t want the Russell Fan Factor with her where a major villain gets loved, because I had planned for her downfall to be the defining moment in the season, and for that to happen I needed it to be satisfying. And what better way to make people root against someone other than make them… evil and rotten and hated.''"''
18th Sep '17 4:32:46 AM Silverblade2
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** Among the mutant heroes and villains, however, no character qualifies for this trope better than Fabian Cortez. The DeceptiveDisciple who pretty much single-handedly put SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} [[FaceHeelTurn back on the villain track]], Cortez is a [[SmugSnake smug]], [[ItsAllAboutMe self-absorbed]] excuse for a man who shamelessly sucks up to Magneto and later Exodus only to try and stick the knife in their backs every chance he gets. He suckers dozens of mutants into believing an ideology he builds around the assumed-dead Magneto (who he assumed he had killed himself) and freely admits he sees all his followers as nothing more than sheep to make his own life easier. He spouts loyalty to his species while secretly murdering fellow mutants for points in an arbitrary competition, boasts of the "mutant harem" he plans to build when he has triumphed, and casually abandons his own sister to die in the very first story he appears in. It's hard to be more loathsome than the likes of ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} or [[PiggybackingOnHitler Mr. Sinister]], but Cortez pulls it off with revolting aplomb.

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** Among the mutant heroes and villains, however, no character qualifies for this trope better than Fabian Cortez. The DeceptiveDisciple who pretty much single-handedly put SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} ComicBook/{{Magneto}} [[FaceHeelTurn back on the villain track]], Cortez is a [[SmugSnake smug]], [[ItsAllAboutMe self-absorbed]] excuse for a man who shamelessly sucks up to Magneto and later Exodus only to try and stick the knife in their backs every chance he gets. He suckers dozens of mutants into believing an ideology he builds around the assumed-dead Magneto (who he assumed he had killed himself) and freely admits he sees all his followers as nothing more than sheep to make his own life easier. He spouts loyalty to his species while secretly murdering fellow mutants for points in an arbitrary competition, boasts of the "mutant harem" he plans to build when he has triumphed, and casually abandons his own sister to die in the very first story he appears in. It's hard to be more loathsome than the likes of ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} or [[PiggybackingOnHitler Mr. Sinister]], but Cortez pulls it off with revolting aplomb.
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