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16th Nov '17 10:35:36 AM BeerBaron
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* In the first three games in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' video game series, the nation of Cyrodiil is described as mostly tropical jungle. ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' is the only one that actually takes place there, and it is shown to actually be mostly temperate hardwood forest. The in-game books "Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes" vaguely explains that the god Talos (the [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence endivinated spirit of the first Cyrodiilic emperor]]) used his powers to make Cyrodiil colder to make the local soldiers more comfortable.
** This inconsistency was supposedly brought up in an interview with one of the devs of the game, whose response was rather hostile and went along the lines of "Are you really going to complain about esoteric information located within the backstory of the backstory?"
** And this isn't even touching the [[AssPull explanations for why the Argonians and Khajiit look so drastically different in every game]]. Which, oddly, is not as much a case as the Cyrodiilic Contradiction, what with its explained by more than a vague note in an obscure book, not contradicting previously established fact, and being entirely consistent with the metaphysics and natural laws of the universe from ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' onward (when we got most of the metaphysics, that is).
** The reason the Khajiit look different is explained by there being various species which are dependent on the phases of the moons, from certain species looking like massive lions and used as sentient mounts to housecats and to others barely different from Bosmer, with whatever is seen in game being the most common in that province.
** As for the Argonians, in-game scholars theorize it's a result of their relationship with the Hist, sentient trees native to their land. Supposedly an Argonian is born with the appearance of a normal lizard and becomes more humanoid as they consume more Hist sap, which has magical properties for them (for other races, it works as a mix of steroids and hallucinogen). As with the Khajiit, it's assumed that all Argonians in a given region/era look alike because that group just happens to be more common there.

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* In the first three games in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' video game series, here have been several major changes to the nation game world and/or the races living within it that have changed over the course of Cyrodiil is described as mostly tropical jungle. the series. Most have since been given an official in-universe explanation of varying quality and coherence. To note:
** Until
''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' is the only one that actually takes place there, and showed it is shown to actually be as a mostly temperate hardwood forest. forest, the nation of Cyrodiil was referred to as a tropical jungle earlier in the series. The in-game books "Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes" vaguely explains in-universe explanation is that the god Talos (the [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence endivinated spirit of the first Cyrodiilic emperor]]) it ''was'' a jungle, until [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]] used his powers as a newly ascended god to make perform a CosmicRetcon, changing Cyrodiil colder to make the local Imperial soldiers who served him so well more comfortable.
comfortable. ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline'', which is a prequel to the main series, shows it much the same as it is in ''Oblivion'', meaning that Talos' changes were apparently retroactive as well.
** This inconsistency was supposedly brought up in an interview with one The ArtEvolution of the devs of [[LizardFolk Argonians]] and [[CatFolk Khajiit]] throughout the game, series has since been explained a result of in-universe forces. To note:
*** The Argonians owe their changes to the Hist, [[WiseTree sentient]] and possibly {{omniscient}} trees
whose response was rather hostile and went along the lines of "Are you really going to complain about esoteric information located within the backstory of the backstory?"
** And this isn't even touching the [[AssPull explanations for why
sap the Argonians drink to grow. The Hist began to change the Argonians around the time of the Oblivion Crisis, making them stronger and more aggressive to prepare for the coming chaos and wars.
*** The
Khajiit look so drastically different in every game]]. Which, oddly, is not as much a case as the Cyrodiilic Contradiction, what with its explained by more than a vague note in an obscure book, not contradicting previously established fact, and being entirely consistent with the metaphysics and natural laws of the universe from ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' onward (when we got most of the metaphysics, that is).
** The reason the Khajiit
have various sub-species which look different is explained by there being various species which are dependent as adults depending on the phases of the moons, from certain species looking like massive lions and used as sentient mounts to housecats and to others barely different from Bosmer, with whatever is seen in game being the most common in that province.
** As for the Argonians, in-game scholars theorize it's a result of their relationship with the Hist, sentient trees native to their land. Supposedly an Argonian is born with the appearance of a normal lizard and becomes more humanoid as they consume more Hist sap,
Nirn's [[WeirdMoon twin moons]] under which has magical properties for them (for other races, it works as a mix of steroids and hallucinogen). As with the Khajiit, it's assumed that all Argonians in a given region/era look alike because that group just happens to be they were born. Certain sub-species are more common there.in different provinces, leading to their changing appearance throughout the series.
15th Nov '17 6:45:25 AM OptimumTaurus
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** Also, in RogueOne one particular element of ''Film/ANewHope'' got retroactively handwaved by offering a reasonable explanation why the Death Star had exhaust ports.

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** Also, in RogueOne one particular element of ''Film/ANewHope'' got retroactively handwaved by offering a reasonable explanation why the Death Star had exhaust ports. The Death Star's lead designer was being forced to work on the device, and intentionally designed it with a flaw that could be exploited to destroy it.
12th Nov '17 8:49:15 PM louisXVI
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* This trope is the subject of a whole scene in the BeverlyCleary book "Ramona the Pest." On her first day of Kindergarden, Ramona is hoping to finally learn the answer to one of her most pressing questions how, in the famous kids' book "Mike Mulligan and His Steam Shovel," Mike Mulligan is able to go to the bathroom while digging the giant hole he can't get out of. After Ramona asks the teacher, the children argue amongst themselves offering different theories, before concluding that Ramona's right it would have been impossible. The teacher, clearly out of her league, announces with feigned authority that the question wasn't addressed because "it wasn't important," leaving Ramona deeply disillusioned with the public school system.

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* This trope is the subject of a whole scene in the BeverlyCleary book "Ramona the Pest." On her first day of Kindergarden, Ramona is hoping to finally learn the answer to one of her most pressing questions how, in the famous kids' book "Mike Mulligan and His Steam Shovel," Mike Mulligan is able to go to the bathroom while digging the giant hole he can't get out of. After Ramona asks the teacher, the children argue amongst themselves themselves, offering different theories, before concluding that Ramona's right it would have been impossible. The teacher, clearly out of her league, announces with feigned authority that the question wasn't addressed because "it wasn't important," leaving Ramona deeply disillusioned with the public school system.
12th Nov '17 8:48:17 PM louisXVI
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* This trope is the subject of a whole scene in the BeverlyCleary book "Ramona the Pest." On her first day of Kindergarden, Ramona is hoping to finally learn the answer to one of her most pressing questions how, in the famous kids' book "Mike Mulligan and His Steam Shovel," Mike Mulligan is able to go to the bathroom while digging the giant hole he can't get out of. After Ramona asks the teacher, the children argue amongst themselves offering different theories, before concluding that Ramona's right it would have been impossible. The teacher, clearly out of her league, announces with feigned authority that the question wasn't addressed because "it wasn't important," leaving Ramona deeply disillusioned with the public school system.
7th Nov '17 11:27:06 AM Allronix
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* Franchise/{{Tron}}. PatchworkFic authors integrating ''VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh'' and ''Film/TronLegacy'' canons explain Jet's absence in the film as him being in Washington DC visiting his mom, Jet and Sam having a nasty falling-out before the film's events, or some combination of the two.
2nd Nov '17 7:52:12 AM Enter_User_Name
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* Typically every miniature in any one unit in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' will share a single body type. While the reason for this is clearly to simplify the design process and cut costs, this is sometimes given a hand-wave justification in the backstory. For example, Space Marines are all male because [[{{Phlebotinum}} gene-seed]] is [[{{TechnoBabble}} keyed to male hormones]].
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17th Oct '17 5:34:03 PM nowaymanguy
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* The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series takes place in Japan, but the localized versions moves the location to California, [[CaliforniaDoubling despite the fact that there's clearly Japanese culture and references]]. A localizer for the series attempts to explain this anomaly by saying that the localized versions of the games take place in an alternate timeline where the United States during World War II never enacted anti-Japanese laws, which would allow Japanese citizens to move to the United Sates and live peacefully.
15th Oct '17 2:13:46 PM AnotherWanderingGhost
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* ''Literature/TheWizardTheWitchAndTwoGirlsFromJersey'' offers a few theories around the existence of ''The Queen of Twilight'' by Fabiella Banks, which the titular girls from Jersey have magically appeared in and which is not entirely as the author described it:
--> Had Fabiella created it by writing it? Or had it existed on its own, before the writing? Had Fabiella visited it? Or were they, somehow, inside the imagination of Fabiella Banks? Oh, it was all too weird.
** Judging by her later thoughts, Veronica seems to run with the idea that she's in a real place Fabiella Banks visited. The narrative never discusses it again.
28th Sep '17 11:04:09 PM Vir
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* In-universe example in ''Disney/{{Bolt}}'': when Penny and Bolt walk out on their show after Penny nearly died from working with an untrained ReplacementGoldfish for Bolt, [[TheOtherDarrin her replacement actor]] is introduced to the show as the character getting reconstructive surgery.
28th Sep '17 10:58:38 PM Vir
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* In Main/RealLife, the Boy Scouts of America has a "Two Deep Leadership" policy. Any interactions between youth members and adults has to have at least two adults present as a safety: to avoid placing children at risk if a Scoutmaster has [[{{Main/PedophilePriest}} unsavory intentions]], or to protect the adults from [[{{Main/FalseRapeAccusation}} untrue accusation]]s of such intentions. In the ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' ElsewhereFic ''FanFic/BoyScoutsOneHalf'', Matthew Atanian is an Assistant Scoutmaster, and he frequently spends time with his friends who are youth in the program. Matthew, being 20 as the story begins, is not exceptionally older then his friends who are all mid - late teens. Still, he spends a lot of time hanging out with his friends, even away from Scouting functions, where he is the only adult present. This is largely a matter of plot, as it would be difficult for them to get into a lot of the situations they do if they had to drag an additional person who was over 18 along with them especially if this person was unaware of the Jusenkyo curses that Matthew and four of his friends suffer from. Still, in the real world the amount of time Matthew spends with his friends could have UnfortunateImplications and lead Matthew into much trouble. This is hand waved on a few occasions, with Matthew being aware of the policies but glossing over them as he knows he has no ill intent and he trusts his friends to not [[{{Main/TheRat}} mention his ignoring of said policies to those who might take issue with it]].

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* In Main/RealLife, RealLife, the Boy Scouts of America has a "Two Deep Leadership" policy. Any interactions between youth members and adults has to have at least two adults present as a safety: to avoid placing children at risk if a Scoutmaster has [[{{Main/PedophilePriest}} [[PedophilePriest unsavory intentions]], or to protect the adults from [[{{Main/FalseRapeAccusation}} [[FalseRapeAccusation untrue accusation]]s of such intentions. In the ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' ElsewhereFic ''FanFic/BoyScoutsOneHalf'', Matthew Atanian is an Assistant Scoutmaster, and he frequently spends time with his friends who are youth in the program. Matthew, being 20 as the story begins, is not exceptionally older then than his friends who are all mid - late teens. Still, he spends a lot of time hanging out with his friends, even away from Scouting functions, where he is the only adult present. This is largely a matter of plot, as it would be difficult for them to get into a lot of the situations they do if they had to drag an additional person who was over 18 along with them especially if this person was unaware of the Jusenkyo curses that Matthew and four of his friends suffer from. Still, in the real world world, the amount of time Matthew spends with his friends could have UnfortunateImplications and lead Matthew into much trouble. This is hand waved on a few occasions, with Matthew being aware of the policies but glossing over them as he knows he has no ill intent and he trusts his friends to not [[{{Main/TheRat}} [[TheRat mention his ignoring of said policies to those who might take issue with it]].



---> '''Connie Maheswaran''': "Wait...can you even stay here? You don't have a Social Security Card or money or...well anything!"
---> '''Damian''': "Don't worry about it. Mayor Dewey told me he would help me become a citizen abusing some kind of legal loophole or something."
---> '''Connie Maheswaran''': "That raises more questions!"

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---> '''Connie --->'''Connie Maheswaran''': "Wait...can you even stay here? You don't have a Social Security Card or money or...well anything!"
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anything!"\\
'''Damian''': "Don't worry about it. Mayor Dewey told me he would help me become a citizen abusing some kind of legal loophole or something."
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'''Connie Maheswaran''': "That raises more questions!"



* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobSquarePantsMovie'', [=SpongeBob=] is able to drive the Patty Wagon, a CoolCar, despite the fact that he's canonically a terrible driver. When Patrick questions this, [=SpongeBob=] replies, "You don't need a license to drive a sandwich." And that's it, he's inexplicably a BadassDriver for the entire length of time that they have the Patty Wagon in their possession.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobSquarePantsMovie'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongebobSquarepantsMovie'', [=SpongeBob=] is able to drive the Patty Wagon, a CoolCar, despite the fact that he's canonically a terrible driver. When Patrick questions this, [=SpongeBob=] replies, "You don't need a license to drive a sandwich." And that's it, he's inexplicably a BadassDriver for the entire length of time that they have the Patty Wagon in their possession.
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