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* In ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'', Picard and Data steal a ''Scorpion''-class fighter to escape from Shinzon's warlord. Picard flies while Data shoots.
9th Jul '16 11:43:45 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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Their position is useful for comedy, as they can throw up in particularly vicious manoeuvres. It also allows for a major sense of danger they can be hit in a fight and create a time-sensitive element to the mission. The position is also useful in general for giving the pilot somebody to talk to without necessarily needing another plane nearby, similar to cop shows where two cops always ride in a car together (even though the vast majority of police forces don't have enough manpower to put two cops to each car). They can also highlight the drama of fight scenes when enemies approach, the back guy races through the craft's combat analysis computer to identity them and [[OhCrap reacts with alarm]] as he realizes what they are taking on. The back guy can also be working the craft's operating maintenance systems to attempt to keep the craft operating even as the pilot is pushing the envelope trying to keep them from being shot down.

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Their position is useful for comedy, as they can throw up in particularly vicious manoeuvres.maneuvers. It also allows for a major sense of danger they can be hit in a fight and create a time-sensitive element to the mission. The position is also useful in general for giving the pilot somebody to talk to without necessarily needing another plane nearby, similar to cop shows where two cops always ride in a car together (even though the vast majority of police forces don't have enough manpower to put two cops to each car). They can also highlight the drama of fight scenes when enemies approach, the back guy races through the craft's combat analysis computer to identity them and [[OhCrap reacts with alarm]] as he realizes what they are taking on. The back guy can also be working the craft's operating maintenance systems to attempt to keep the craft operating even as the pilot is pushing the envelope trying to keep them from being shot down.


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** In ''Anime/Macross7'', Ray's VF-17T has been modified to include a passenger seat for his co-pilot/drummer Veffidas.
1st Jul '16 9:38:03 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** In ''Anime/MacrossDelta'', the VF-31 is primarily used as a single-pilot fighter, but has a second seat anyways.

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** In ''Anime/MacrossDelta'', the VF-31 is primarily used as a single-pilot fighter, but has a second seat anyways.anyways (useful for carrying the members of [[GirlGroup Walkure]] around).
1st Jul '16 9:37:24 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Anime/MacrossZero'' featured F-14s, and the VF-0 apparently also had a RIO position, unlike its descendant VF-1. The VF-1 does have a two-seat trainer variant that is apparently used for impromptu flying dates with idol singers.
** Probably a training variant (common with real-world fighters).
** It's kinda zigzagged throughout ''Macross''. In ''Anime/MacrossZero'', the VF-0A and VF-0S (used by Roy) are single seat swing-wing fighters, while the VF-0D (used by Shinn) is a delta wing tandem seater. In ''Macross'', the VF-1D is a two seat trainer. In ''Anime/MacrossPlus'', while Isamu usually flies the YF-19 as a single seater, it does carry space in the cockpit for a RIO, which is where Jann tagged along (and the RIO can be ejected independently of the pilot). Finally, in ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'', while the VF-25 is primarily a single-seater fighter, it's shown to have enough space in the cockpit for one passenger, and presumably can be configured for a RIO if need be.

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* ''Anime/MacrossZero'' featured F-14s, and Kind of zigzagged throughout ''Anime/{{Macross}}'':
** In ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'',
the VF-0 apparently also had VF-1D is a RIO position, unlike its descendant VF-1. The VF-1 does have a two-seat two seat trainer variant that is apparently used (perfect for impromptu flying dates with idol singers.
singers).
** Probably a training variant (common with real-world fighters).
** It's kinda zigzagged throughout ''Macross''.
In ''Anime/MacrossZero'', the VF-0A and VF-0S (used by Roy) are single seat swing-wing fighters, while the VF-0D (used by Shinn) is a delta wing delta-wing tandem seater. In ''Macross'', the VF-1D is a two seat trainer. The series also features your standard two-seat [=F-14=].
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In ''Anime/MacrossPlus'', while Isamu usually flies the YF-19 as a single seater, it does carry space in the cockpit for a RIO, which is where Jann tagged along (and the RIO can be ejected independently of the pilot). Finally, in pilot).
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''Anime/MacrossFrontier'', while the VF-25 is primarily a single-seater fighter, it's shown to have enough space in the cockpit for one passenger, and presumably can be configured for a RIO if need be.be.
** In ''Anime/MacrossDelta'', the VF-31 is primarily used as a single-pilot fighter, but has a second seat anyways.
30th Jun '16 7:45:37 PM nombretomado
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* {{Bionicle}}: In the first Mata Nui Online Game, you play as a Second for a Kewa (really big bird) pilot during the Le-Koro level. Your job is to shoot down enemy Nui-Rama (giant flies).

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* {{Bionicle}}: Toys/{{Bionicle}}: In the first Mata Nui Online Game, you play as a Second for a Kewa (really big bird) pilot during the Le-Koro level. Your job is to shoot down enemy Nui-Rama (giant flies).
20th May '16 5:34:40 AM themisterfree
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* Jake "Razor" Clawson in ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats''. He was physically smaller than T-Bone, but unlike the usual for the role he wasn't a non-combatant. He did all the shooting, and he was also the one most likely to jump from the plane into combat. On a missile. That turned into a motorcycle.

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* Jake "Razor" Clawson in ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats''. He was physically smaller than T-Bone, but unlike the usual for the role he wasn't a non-combatant. He did all the shooting, and he was also the one most likely to jump from the plane into combat. [[CrazyAwesome On a missile. That turned into a motorcycle.]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/ExoSquad'', Neosapien on the side of humankind Marsala was a GIB in an exceptionally big [[MiniMecha e-frame]] - the size of an attack chopper when the rest were barely SUV sized.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/ExoSquad'', Neosapien on the side of humankind Marsala was a GIB in an exceptionally big [[MiniMecha e-frame]] E-Frame]] - the size of an attack chopper when the rest were barely SUV sized.
14th May '16 3:45:39 PM SSJMagus
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** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', the ARC-170 reconnaissance fighters featured in the opening battle feature ''two'' Guys In Back. One co-pilot, and a rear-facing tail gunner (three if you count the R2 unit). This is in part because it was based on the P-61 Black Widow night fighter.

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** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', the ARC-170 reconnaissance fighters featured in the opening battle feature ''two'' Guys In Back. One co-pilot, and a rear-facing tail gunner (three if you count the R2 unit). This is in part because it was based on the P-61 Black Widow night fighter.fighter, which had a pilot, a radar operator and a tail gunner.



** The Boulton Paul Defiant and Blackburn Roc were both "Turret Fighters", fighters equipped with a gun turret. They ultimately proved to be outclassed in dogfights due to the extra weight the turret added, although the Defiant saw some success as a night fighter.
** The P-61 Black Widow, a purpose-designed night fighter equipped with a turret, required a GIB in the Radar Operator role. Some versions deleted the turret for better flight performance, but still needed the GIB to use the radar.

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** The Boulton Paul Defiant and Blackburn Roc were both "Turret Fighters", fighters equipped with a gun turret. They ultimately proved to be outclassed in dogfights due to the extra weight the turret added, added (and because they had ''no'' forward-firing weaponry, as the turret could not be aimed directly forward due to the propeller being in the way), although the Defiant saw some success as a night fighter.
** The P-61 Black Widow, a purpose-designed night fighter equipped with a turret, required a GIB in the Radar Operator role.role and had a third crewman manning the turret. Some versions deleted the turret for better flight performance, but still needed the GIB to use the radar.



** Variation: the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang F-82 Twin Mustang]], which was quite literally two P-51 Mustang fuselages connected by a wing segment making it more of a Guy to the Side. Again, the second pilot's job was to fly to the target, leaving the other guy fresh to do the fighting. And to operate the radar, when one was slung under the central wing segment for night fighter use.

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** Variation: the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang F-82 Twin Mustang]], which was quite literally two P-51 Mustang fuselages connected by a wing segment (though in practice, they ended up having to stretch out the fuselage(s) too, meaning it had surprisingly few parts in common with a standard P-51) making it more of a Guy to the Side. Again, the second pilot's job was to fly to the target, leaving the other guy fresh to do the fighting. And to operate the radar, when one was slung under the central wing segment for night fighter use.[[note]]Due to its...distinctive shape and military pilots being military pilots, that radar became known as the [[GagPenis Long Dong]].[[/note]]



* Averted with the (now retired) F-111 "Aardvark" (though it was a light bomber, a carrier based interceptor version reached prototype stage only to be rejected) as its two crew sat side-by-side. Interestingly, there are some planes today that do this including two Russian Sukhoi aircraft, the Su-24 Fencer and the Su-34 Fullback (both spoken of as fighters even though they're light-bombers). Interestingly, the latter has some luxuries considered rare in a fighter including a small galley, a lavatory, and sleeping facilities. Rare for a helicopter, the Ka-52 (the competitor to the Mi-28; ultimately Russia adopted both) also had side by side seating
** There are advantages and disadvantages to both. The side by side seating allows for much better coordination for the crew. Unfortunately, in aerial combat, this position also gives much lower situational awareness than tandem seating.

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* Averted with the (now retired) F-111 "Aardvark" (though it was a light bomber, a carrier based interceptor version reached prototype stage only to be rejected) as its two crew sat side-by-side. Interestingly, there are some planes today that do this including two Russian Sukhoi aircraft, the Su-24 Fencer and the Su-34 Fullback (both spoken of as fighters even though they're light-bombers). Interestingly, the latter has some luxuries considered rare in a fighter including a small galley, a lavatory, and sleeping facilities. Rare for a helicopter, the Ka-52 (the competitor to the Mi-28; ultimately Russia adopted both) also had side by side seating
seating. Even rarer for a combat helicopter, the Ka-50 from which the Ka-52 was derived was a single-seat craft; the Ka-52 added a second seat because it had enhanced sensors to serve a dual role as an attack and reconnaissance chopper and the single pilot couldn't handle all of that by himself.
** There are advantages and disadvantages to both. The side by side seating allows for much better coordination for the crew. Unfortunately, in aerial combat, this position also gives much lower situational awareness than tandem seating.
seating. That's why it's almost always used in dedicated ground attack aircraft rather than true fighters.
9th Jan '16 5:27:50 PM AJSthe2nd
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** In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Finn flies second seat for Poe Dameron in a two-man TIE variant when they escape Kylo Ren's flagship early in the movie. Finn's job is apparently tailgunner.

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** In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Finn flies second seat for Poe Dameron in a two-man TIE variant when they escape Kylo Ren's flagship early in the movie. Finn's job is apparently tailgunner. Also BB-8 goes into the usual Astromech socket in Poe's X-wing. And unlike R2 and Obi-Wan's droid he manges not to get damaged or destroyed.
30th Dec '15 9:01:31 AM StarSword
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* Luke Skywalker's gunner Dack Ralter is hit during the battle of Hoth at the beginning of ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode V, resulting in the snowspeeder they were using becoming functionally useless against the attacking [=AT-ATs=] and him having to land (of course, the smoke trailing out of it from the shot that killed Dack might have had something to do with it).
** When Luke flies an X-Wing, R2-D2 is the Guy in Back (and in Episode IV performs the traditional GIB function of getting injured to increase the drama). In the prequels, Obi-Wan Kenobi also has an R2 droid as his GIB. In fact, the design of the X-Wing starfighter, with the R2 units poking out of the top behind the cockpit, was meant to invoke the image of bombers with gun turrets (compare an X-Wing to a Grumman Avenger or a Boulton-Paul Defiant.)

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* Luke Skywalker's gunner Dack Ralter is hit during the battle of Hoth at the beginning of ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode V, resulting in the snowspeeder they were using becoming functionally useless against the attacking [=AT-ATs=] and him having to land (of course, the smoke trailing out of it from the shot that killed Dack might have had something to do with it).
''Franchise/StarWars'':
** When Luke flies an X-Wing, R2-D2 is the Guy in Back (and in Episode IV ''Film/ANewHope'' performs the traditional GIB function of getting injured to increase the drama). In the prequels, Obi-Wan Kenobi also has an R2 droid as his GIB. In fact, the design of the X-Wing starfighter, with the R2 units poking out of the top behind the cockpit, was meant to invoke the image of bombers with gun turrets (compare an X-Wing to a Grumman Avenger or a Boulton-Paul Defiant.)Defiant).
** Luke Skywalker's gunner Dack Ralter is hit during the battle of Hoth at the beginning of ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode V, resulting in the snowspeeder they were using becoming functionally useless against the attacking [=AT-ATs=] and him having to land (of course, the smoke trailing out of it from the shot that killed Dack might have had something to do with it).



* The main motivation for the lead character of ''Film/FlightOfTheIntruder'' is the senseless death of his GuyInBack as a result of a spectacularly lucky shot from a peasant with a rifle.
** The rest of the movie follows his exploits with his new [=GIB=], played by Wilem Dafoe's [[BadassMustache badass]]PornStache.

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** In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Finn flies second seat for Poe Dameron in a two-man TIE variant when they escape Kylo Ren's flagship early in the movie. Finn's job is apparently tailgunner.
* The main motivation for the lead character of ''Film/FlightOfTheIntruder'' is the senseless death of his GuyInBack as a result of a spectacularly lucky shot from a peasant with a rifle.
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rifle. The rest of the movie follows his exploits with his new [=GIB=], played by Wilem Willem Dafoe's [[BadassMustache badass]]PornStache.{{badass|Mustache}} PornStache.



* ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'':

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* ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'':''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'':
26th Dec '15 8:46:25 PM jormis29
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* The {{Simoun}}s can only be piloted by two people: primary pilot Auriga and secondary pilot/navigator/gun controller Sagitta. The latter is basically the GuyInBack, except it's [[ImprobablyFemaleCast always a girl (as is the pilot in front)]].

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* The {{Simoun}}s ''Anime/{{Simoun}}''s can only be piloted by two people: primary pilot Auriga and secondary pilot/navigator/gun controller Sagitta. The latter is basically the GuyInBack, except it's [[ImprobablyFemaleCast always a girl (as is the pilot in front)]].
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