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18th Jan '16 11:46:00 PM Dark_Lord_
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* Zigzagged in ''VideoGame/WayOfTheSamurai4''. Gameplay seems to favor the sword a lot more, as swords are more durable and have more devastating techniques, while guns do minimal damage and break after a few uses. But in cutscenes, whenever someone wields a gun, expect another character to be heavily injured or even killed.
7th Jan '16 11:49:48 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* There's always Obi-Wan's line from ''StarWars'' about light sabers: "Not so clumsy or random as a blaster". ** On the opposite side, there's Han Solo's declaration that "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." In ''TheEmpireStrikesBack'', Darth Vader proves him wrong. On Hoth in the same film, Han does use Luke's lightsaber briefly (the only non-jedi to do so in the film series) to cut open Luke's mount. *** Helping Han's case: Obi-Wan couldn't beat Grievous with his lightsaber, but did with a well-placed blaster shot. In line with his comment above, he chastised himself for being "So uncivilized."
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* *''StarWars'' **Swords. There's always Obi-Wan's line from ''StarWars'' from about light sabers: sabers being an "elegant weapon" and going on to say that they're "Not so clumsy or random as a blaster". ** On the opposite side, there's blaster". When circumstances lead to him using a blaster, he chastises himself for being "So uncivilized." **Guns. There's Han Solo's declaration that "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." In ''TheEmpireStrikesBack'', Darth Vader proves him wrong. On Hoth in the same film, Han does use uses Luke's lightsaber briefly (the only non-jedi to do so in the film series) to cut open Luke's mount. *** Helping Han's case: Obi-Wan couldn't beat Grievous with his lightsaber, but did with a well-placed blaster shot. In line with his comment above, he chastised himself for being "So uncivilized."mount.
6th Jan '16 11:57:49 PM morenohijazo
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* [[KatanasAreJustBetter Katanas can deflect and cut (certain) bullets in half!]]
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* [[KatanasAreJustBetter Katanas Katanas]] [[ParryingBullets can deflect and cut (certain) bullets in half!]]
4th Jan '16 4:27:05 PM nombretomado
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* In ''SoulCalibur'', Mitsurugi's bio mentions that he lost a duel against a rifleman, and wants to find the Soul Edge because it's superior to any other weapon, including guns (he also spent a good part of his time devising techniques against firearms). ** Expanding on above example: Mitsurugi's ending in ''SoulBlade'' gives you a special, first-person-perspective fight against a soldier wielding an old, front-loaded rifle, dubbed 'Tanegashima' after the old japanese word for firearms. If you don't do EXACTLY the right thing the moment the battle starts, you'll get shot, and get the 'bad ending' (which is also the canonical one, as stated above). However, if you step to the side the moment the battle starts, you can dodge the bullet, then quickly close the distance before the rifleman can reload, and cut him down - giving you a Good Ending where Mitsurugi declares that he has no need for the Soul Edge, since his own badass sword-skills are enough to take on even firearms.
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* In ''SoulCalibur'', ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur'', Mitsurugi's bio mentions that he lost a duel against a rifleman, and wants to find the Soul Edge because it's superior to any other weapon, including guns (he also spent a good part of his time devising techniques against firearms). ** Expanding on above example: Mitsurugi's ending in ''SoulBlade'' ''VideoGame/SoulBlade'' gives you a special, first-person-perspective fight against a soldier wielding an old, front-loaded rifle, dubbed 'Tanegashima' after the old japanese Japanese word for firearms. If you don't do EXACTLY the right thing the moment the battle starts, you'll get shot, and get the 'bad ending' (which is also the canonical one, as stated above). However, if you step to the side the moment the battle starts, you can dodge the bullet, then quickly close the distance before the rifleman can reload, and cut him down - giving you a Good Ending where Mitsurugi declares that he has no need for the Soul Edge, since his own badass sword-skills are enough to take on even firearms.
30th Sep '15 3:50:09 PM nombretomado
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* In ''{{Onimusha}} 2'', you can have a competition with the gunfighter to see which is better: Your katana or his rifle, seeing who can kill the most enemies in a fixed period of time. Of course, this is a katana against a 16th century matchlock. In real life, the gunman would have only been able to shoot a handful of times in the timeframe involved.
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* In ''{{Onimusha}} ''VideoGame/{{Onimusha}} 2'', you can have a competition with the gunfighter to see which is better: Your katana or his rifle, seeing who can kill the most enemies in a fixed period of time. Of course, this is a katana against a 16th century matchlock. In real life, the gunman would have only been able to shoot a handful of times in the timeframe involved.
21st Sep '15 6:10:49 AM Specialist290
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Derp.
** And up until the development of more modern cartridge-based firearms, the biggest great equalizer when you've only got time for one shot was the use of [[BayonetYa bayonets]], though that essentially settled the debate in favor of melee. Granted, the initial volley(s) remained every bit as essential to winning the battle as other ranged weapons were in earlier times, the addition of bayonets meant you could give every soldier in your army a gun ''and'' a bayonet instead of splitting melee and firearm roles between different formations, and and the development of rifled firearms offered another essential use for guns, creating the prototypical ColdSniper. Though when guns were still muzzle-loading, that rifling [[AwesomeYetImpractical did hinder one's ability to shove the bullet and wadding fully down the barrel.]]
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** And up until the development of more modern cartridge-based firearms, the biggest great equalizer when you've only got time for one shot was the use of [[BayonetYa bayonets]], though that essentially settled the debate in favor of melee. Granted, the initial volley(s) remained every bit as essential to winning the battle as other ranged weapons were in earlier times, the addition of bayonets meant you could give every soldier in your army a gun ''and'' a bayonet instead of splitting melee and firearm roles between different formations, and and the development of rifled firearms offered another essential use for guns, creating the prototypical ColdSniper. Though when guns were still muzzle-loading, that rifling [[AwesomeYetImpractical did hinder one's ability to shove the bullet and wadding fully down the barrel.]]
21st Sep '15 6:09:56 AM Specialist290
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** And up until the development of more modern cartridge-based firearms, the biggest great equalizer when you've only got time for one shot was the use of [[BayonetYa bayonets]], though that essentially settled the debate in favor of melee. Granted, the initial volley(s) remained every bit as essential to winning the battle as other ranged weapons were in earlier times, and the development of rifled firearms offered another essential use for guns, creating the prototypical ColdSniper. Though when guns were still muzzle-loading, that rifling [[AwesomeYetImpractical did hinder one's ability to shove the bullet and wadding fully down the barrel.]]
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** And up until the development of more modern cartridge-based firearms, the biggest great equalizer when you've only got time for one shot was the use of [[BayonetYa bayonets]], though that essentially settled the debate in favor of melee. Granted, the initial volley(s) remained every bit as essential to winning the battle as other ranged weapons were in earlier times, the addition of bayonets meant you could give every soldier in your army a gun ''and'' a bayonet instead of splitting melee and firearm roles between different formations, and and the development of rifled firearms offered another essential use for guns, creating the prototypical ColdSniper. Though when guns were still muzzle-loading, that rifling [[AwesomeYetImpractical did hinder one's ability to shove the bullet and wadding fully down the barrel.]]
10th Aug '15 8:32:43 PM Tacitus
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* Can be seen as a theme within ''VideoGame/TotalWarShogun2'', especially if you move from the main game to the last expansion. ** The classic campaign takes place during Japan's Sengoku period, which saw firearms introduced to the country by Western traders. Arquebuses are inaccurate and slow to fire, but dangerous in salvos and good at breaking [[CannonFodder Ashigaru]] units. But since getting gunpowder weapons in great numbers involves either going deep into the tech tree or dishonoring yourself by dealing with foreigners (or worse, converting to Christianity!), for most daimyo it's much more practical to focus on katana-toting samurai, which are extremely effective in close combat. ** But then comes the ''Fall of the Samurai'' campaign, set during the Boshin War. Not only are handheld firearms much more dangerous and widespread, you can also field powerful artillery pieces like [[GatlingGood Gatling guns]]. It's ''possible'' to refuse to modernize and win the game with a "traditional" army, but in most cases bringing a bunch of swords to the battlefields in this era is just asking for a massacre.
6th Aug '15 8:14:48 AM Announcerve
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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', Erza and Bisca use the same kind of magic and the latter admires the former.
3rd Aug '15 4:44:39 PM Tgunxd
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* DeadliestWarrior has many warriors fight each other, though most have weapons from a similar era. This is the exception for Knight vs Pirate. Knight can be considered one of the most powerful ancient warriors due to its armor and metallurgy of weapons while Pirates are one of the oldest gunfighters and had no long ranged rifles or muskets in the match. While the Pirate did have a sword he obviously prefered gunpowder weapons as well. [[spoiler: While the Knight has more skill, better melee weapons, more money and armor these factors were pointless in the face of the Pirate's weapons. The Grenado exploited the small gaps within the Knight's armor and could still harm a Knight to some degree if it was stopped by the armor, but the Blunderbuss especially dominated the fight with its ability to pierce through the Knight's armor with ease and accuracy before the Knight could even get in close.]]
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* DeadliestWarrior has many warriors fight each other, though most have weapons from a similar era. This is the exception for Knight vs Pirate. Knight can be considered one of the most powerful ancient warriors due to its armor and metallurgy of weapons while Pirates are one of the oldest gunfighters and had no long ranged rifles or muskets in the match. While the Pirate did have a sword he obviously prefered gunpowder weapons as well. [[spoiler: While the Knight has more skill, better melee weapons, more money and armor these factors were pointless in the face of the Pirate's weapons. The Grenado exploited the small gaps within the Knight's armor and could still harm a Knight to some degree if it was stopped by the armor, but the Blunderbuss especially dominated the fight with its ability to pierce through the Knight's armor with ease and accuracy could aim accurately before the Knight could even get in close.]]
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