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GrahamMcNeill is a Scottish writer. His ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' novels include ''[[Literature/IronWarriors Storm of Iron]]'' (featuring the Imperial Guard and the Imperial Fists facing off against the Iron Warriors); the Literature/{{Ultramarines}} ''Warriors of Ultramar'', ''Nightbringer'', ''Dead Sky, Black Sun'', ''The Killing Ground'' and ''Courage and Honour''; and the HorusHeresy ''False Gods'', ''Fulgrim'', ''A Thousand Sons'', and ''Mechanicum'', and his TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} novels, ''Heldenhammer'', ''The Ambassador'', ''The Ambassador Chronicles'', and ''Guardians of the Forest''. He also wrote the 4th Edition Codex (still in use during the 6th edition rulebook as of this writing) of the Black Templar space marines for the actual tabletop game.
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!!His works contain instances of these tropes:
* AuthorVocabularyCalendar: Has a habit of using "tattoo" to mean "pattern", and a character becoming angry is often described as "his choler rose".
* AlienSky: Featured in Dead Sky, Black Sun.
* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Uriel Ventris amongst others.
* AMillionIsAStatistic: He writes Warhammer, this is par for the course.
* AntiHero: Many of the criminals in ''Warriors of Ultramar'' are this, keeping civilians alive for profit against the alien hordes.
* ArmedWithCanon: Currently in a {{Retcon}} war with Matt Ward over whether the Ultramarines are intended to be the [[PuritySue absolute]] [[CreatorsPet ideal]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of all]] [[{{Flanderization}} Space Marines everywhere]], or just heroic but ultimately normal Space Marines. [=McNeill=] favors the latter interpretation, Ward the former. And if you ask around you'll find that not only are most die-hard 40k fans firmly on [=McNeill=]'s side but they also absolutely ''despise'' Ward.
* {{Badass}}: He writes for Warhammer, after all.
** BadassBeard: EVERYONE IN THE LEGEND OF SIGMAR. EVERYONE!!! Except Sigmar himself.
** BadassNormal: If there's a character in his book which isn't a SpaceMarine, they're usually this.
* TheBadGuyWins: ''Storm of Iron''. Even the other writers in the Black Library were shocked by his decision to do this.
* DoomedByCanon: Effectively whenever he is writing HorusHeresy novels.
* DownerEnding: Frequently when he is writing [[CrapsackWorld anything to do with Warhammer]].
* DreamingOfThingsToCome: combines with DreamingTheTruth in ''Dead Sky, Black Sun''.
* EldritchLocation: The Eye of Terror. Think {{Mordor}} with demonic SpaceMarines.
** Norsca in Warhammer Fantasy. Think {{Mordor}} in Scandinavia with demonic Vikings in baroque plate armour.
* EnemyCivilWar: Pick a book with Chaos in it. You'll probably find one in there.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Often subverted with the likes of the IronWarriors. Played straight with the leader of the criminal gang in ''Warriors of Ultramar'' upon encountering an AttemptedRape.
** Present in ''Empire'', where the main antagonist, the Chaos Lord Cormac Bloodaxe, expressing disgust over the way prisoners of war are violated and tortured by the Slaaneshi. It mostly stems from his religious beliefs, torturing a warrior to death and denying him an honourable death in battle runs contrary everything Khorne stands for.
* FantasyCounterpartCulture: In the ''Sigmar'' novels, it seems as if he basically taken every Northern European barbarian culture and cobbled them all together to create the culture of the Imperial tribes. He takes a lot of inspiration from Roman-era Germanics, as the people of Sigmar's time are the ancestors of the modern Empire; which itself is a counterpart culture to the Renaissance Germany. Of course, the Chaos-worshiping Norsii tribes (ancestors of the modern Norse tribes) are presented as straight-up Satanist Vikings. Which is completely consistent with their presentation in other Warhammer fiction.
** The Udoses, who are an Imperial tribe present in said novels, however, are Scotsmen.
* VillainProtagonist: the IronWarriors in ''Storm of Iron''.
* WouldNotShootACivilian: What really separates the Ultramarines, or at least Ventris and his company, [[CrapsackWorld from almost everyone else in their universe]].
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GrahamMcNeill is a Scottish writer. His ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' novels include ''[[Literature/IronWarriors Storm of Iron]]'' (featuring the Imperial Guard and the Imperial Fists facing off against the Iron Warriors); the Literature/{{Ultramarines}} ''Warriors of Ultramar'', ''Nightbringer'', ''Dead Sky, Black Sun'', ''The Killing Ground'' and ''Courage and Honour''; and the HorusHeresy ''False Gods'', ''Fulgrim'', ''A Thousand Sons'', and ''Mechanicum'', and his TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} novels, ''Heldenhammer'', ''The Ambassador'', ''The Ambassador Chronicles'', and ''Guardians of the Forest''. He also wrote the 4th Edition Codex (still in use during the 6th edition rulebook as of this writing) of the Black Templar space marines for the actual tabletop game.
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!!His works contain instances of these tropes:
* AuthorVocabularyCalendar: Has a habit of using "tattoo" to mean "pattern", and a character becoming angry is often described as "his choler rose".
* AlienSky: Featured in Dead Sky, Black Sun.
* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Uriel Ventris amongst others.
* AMillionIsAStatistic: He writes Warhammer, this is par for the course.
* AntiHero: Many of the criminals in ''Warriors of Ultramar'' are this, keeping civilians alive for profit against the alien hordes.
* ArmedWithCanon: Currently in a {{Retcon}} war with Matt Ward over whether the Ultramarines are intended to be the [[PuritySue absolute]] [[CreatorsPet ideal]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of all]] [[{{Flanderization}} Space Marines everywhere]], or just heroic but ultimately normal Space Marines. [=McNeill=] favors the latter interpretation, Ward the former. And if you ask around you'll find that not only are most die-hard 40k fans firmly on [=McNeill=]'s side but they also absolutely ''despise'' Ward.
* {{Badass}}: He writes for Warhammer, after all.
** BadassBeard: EVERYONE IN THE LEGEND OF SIGMAR. EVERYONE!!! Except Sigmar himself.
** BadassNormal: If there's a character in his book which isn't a SpaceMarine, they're usually this.
* TheBadGuyWins: ''Storm of Iron''. Even the other writers in the Black Library were shocked by his decision to do this.
* DoomedByCanon: Effectively whenever he is writing HorusHeresy novels.
* DownerEnding: Frequently when he is writing [[CrapsackWorld anything to do with Warhammer]].
* DreamingOfThingsToCome: combines with DreamingTheTruth in ''Dead Sky, Black Sun''.
* EldritchLocation: The Eye of Terror. Think {{Mordor}} with demonic SpaceMarines.
** Norsca in Warhammer Fantasy. Think {{Mordor}} in Scandinavia with demonic Vikings in baroque plate armour.
* EnemyCivilWar: Pick a book with Chaos in it. You'll probably find one in there.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Often subverted with the likes of the IronWarriors. Played straight with the leader of the criminal gang in ''Warriors of Ultramar'' upon encountering an AttemptedRape.
** Present in ''Empire'', where the main antagonist, the Chaos Lord Cormac Bloodaxe, expressing disgust over the way prisoners of war are violated and tortured by the Slaaneshi. It mostly stems from his religious beliefs, torturing a warrior to death and denying him an honourable death in battle runs contrary everything Khorne stands for.
* FantasyCounterpartCulture: In the ''Sigmar'' novels, it seems as if he basically taken every Northern European barbarian culture and cobbled them all together to create the culture of the Imperial tribes. He takes a lot of inspiration from Roman-era Germanics, as the people of Sigmar's time are the ancestors of the modern Empire; which itself is a counterpart culture to the Renaissance Germany. Of course, the Chaos-worshiping Norsii tribes (ancestors of the modern Norse tribes) are presented as straight-up Satanist Vikings. Which is completely consistent with their presentation in other Warhammer fiction.
** The Udoses, who are an Imperial tribe present in said novels, however, are Scotsmen.
* VillainProtagonist: the IronWarriors in ''Storm of Iron''.
* WouldNotShootACivilian: What really separates the Ultramarines, or at least Ventris and his company, [[CrapsackWorld from almost everyone else in their universe]].
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6th Jun '13 7:28:51 AM Korm
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** BadassBeard: EVERYONE IN THE LEGEND OF SIGMAR. EVERYONE!!! Except Sigmar himself.
25th Feb '13 11:04:07 AM Typhon233
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* WouldNotShootACivilian: What really separates the Ultramarines, or at Ventris and his company, [[CrapsackWorld from almost everyone else in their universe]].

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* WouldNotShootACivilian: What really separates the Ultramarines, or at least Ventris and his company, [[CrapsackWorld from almost everyone else in their universe]].
18th Feb '13 6:27:58 AM Korm
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** The Udoses, who are an Imperial tribe present in said novels, however, are Scotsmen.
18th Feb '13 6:25:14 AM Korm
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** Norsca was described as being this in the Heldenhammer novels. Think Mordor in Scandinavia with demonic Vikings in baroque plate armour.

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** Norsca was described as being this in the Heldenhammer novels. Warhammer Fantasy. Think Mordor {{Mordor}} in Scandinavia with demonic Vikings in baroque plate armour.


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** Present in ''Empire'', where the main antagonist, the Chaos Lord Cormac Bloodaxe, expressing disgust over the way prisoners of war are violated and tortured by the Slaaneshi. It mostly stems from his religious beliefs, torturing a warrior to death and denying him an honourable death in battle runs contrary everything Khorne stands for.
* FantasyCounterpartCulture: In the ''Sigmar'' novels, it seems as if he basically taken every Northern European barbarian culture and cobbled them all together to create the culture of the Imperial tribes. He takes a lot of inspiration from Roman-era Germanics, as the people of Sigmar's time are the ancestors of the modern Empire; which itself is a counterpart culture to the Renaissance Germany. Of course, the Chaos-worshiping Norsii tribes (ancestors of the modern Norse tribes) are presented as straight-up Satanist Vikings. Which is completely consistent with their presentation in other Warhammer fiction.
22nd Jan '13 12:42:10 AM Delnoir
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* ArmedWithCanon: Currently in a {{Retcon}} war with Matt Ward over whether the Ultramarines are intended to be the [[PuritySue absolute]] [[CreatorsPet ideal]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of all]] [[{{Flanderization}} Space Marines everywhere]], or just heroic but ultimately normal Space Marines. [=McNeill=] favors the latter interpretation, Ward the former. And if you ask around you'll find that not only are most die-hard 40k fans are on [=McNeill=]'s side but they also absolutely ''despise'' Ward.

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* ArmedWithCanon: Currently in a {{Retcon}} war with Matt Ward over whether the Ultramarines are intended to be the [[PuritySue absolute]] [[CreatorsPet ideal]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of all]] [[{{Flanderization}} Space Marines everywhere]], or just heroic but ultimately normal Space Marines. [=McNeill=] favors the latter interpretation, Ward the former. And if you ask around you'll find that not only are most die-hard 40k fans are firmly on [=McNeill=]'s side but they also absolutely ''despise'' Ward.
22nd Jan '13 12:41:12 AM Delnoir
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* ArmedWithCanon: Currently in a {{Retcon}} war with Matt Ward over whether the Ultramarines are intended to be the [[PuritySue absolute]] [[CreatorsPet ideal]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of all]] [[{{Flanderization}} Space Marines everywhere]], or just heroic but ultimately normal Space Marines. [=McNeill=] favors the latter interpretation, Ward the former. And if you ask around you'll find that most die-hard 40k fans are on McNeill's side and absolutely ''despise'' Ward.

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* ArmedWithCanon: Currently in a {{Retcon}} war with Matt Ward over whether the Ultramarines are intended to be the [[PuritySue absolute]] [[CreatorsPet ideal]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of all]] [[{{Flanderization}} Space Marines everywhere]], or just heroic but ultimately normal Space Marines. [=McNeill=] favors the latter interpretation, Ward the former. And if you ask around you'll find that not only are most die-hard 40k fans are on McNeill's [=McNeill=]'s side and but they also absolutely ''despise'' Ward.
22nd Jan '13 12:40:01 AM Delnoir
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* ArmedWithCanon: Currently in a {{Retcon}} war with Matt Ward over whether the Ultramarines are intended to be the [[PuritySue absolute]] [[CreatorsPet ideal]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of all]] [[{{Flanderization}} Space Marines everywhere]], or just heroic but ultimately normal Space Marines. [=McNeill=] favors the latter interpretation, Ward the former.

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* ArmedWithCanon: Currently in a {{Retcon}} war with Matt Ward over whether the Ultramarines are intended to be the [[PuritySue absolute]] [[CreatorsPet ideal]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of all]] [[{{Flanderization}} Space Marines everywhere]], or just heroic but ultimately normal Space Marines. [=McNeill=] favors the latter interpretation, Ward the former. And if you ask around you'll find that most die-hard 40k fans are on McNeill's side and absolutely ''despise'' Ward.
22nd Jan '13 12:37:10 AM Delnoir
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GrahamMcNeill is a Scottish writer. His ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' novels include ''[[Literature/IronWarriors Storm of Iron]]'' (featuring the Imperial Guard and the Imperial Fists facing off against the Iron Warriors); the Literature/{{Ultramarines}} ''Warriors of Ultramar'', ''Nightbringer'', ''Dead Sky, Black Sun'', ''The Killing Ground'' and ''Courage and Honour''; and the HorusHeresy ''False Gods'', ''Fulgrim'', ''A Thousand Sons'', and ''Mechanicum'', and his TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} novels, ''Heldenhammer'', ''The Ambassador'', ''The Ambassador Chronicles'', and ''Guardians of the Forest''.

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GrahamMcNeill is a Scottish writer. His ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' novels include ''[[Literature/IronWarriors Storm of Iron]]'' (featuring the Imperial Guard and the Imperial Fists facing off against the Iron Warriors); the Literature/{{Ultramarines}} ''Warriors of Ultramar'', ''Nightbringer'', ''Dead Sky, Black Sun'', ''The Killing Ground'' and ''Courage and Honour''; and the HorusHeresy ''False Gods'', ''Fulgrim'', ''A Thousand Sons'', and ''Mechanicum'', and his TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} novels, ''Heldenhammer'', ''The Ambassador'', ''The Ambassador Chronicles'', and ''Guardians of the Forest''. He also wrote the 4th Edition Codex (still in use during the 6th edition rulebook as of this writing) of the Black Templar space marines for the actual tabletop game.
3rd Jan '13 12:17:42 AM Korm
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** Norsca was described as being this in the Heldenhammer novels. Think Mordor in Scandinavia with demonic Vikings in baroque plate armour.
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