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11th Apr '16 5:49:42 PM Adept
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** FrostyTheSnowman, according to TheOtherWiki.

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** FrostyTheSnowman, ''WesternAnimation/FrostyTheSnowman'', according to TheOtherWiki.
5th Apr '16 1:23:15 AM erforce
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* In ''Film/{{Oldboy}}'', when the protagonist smokes his first cigarette after 15 years of imprisonment (during which he [[TookALevelInBadass has become quite the badass]]), he [[ThisMeansWar takes it away from a gang member's mouth]].

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* In ''Film/{{Oldboy}}'', ''Film/{{Oldboy 2003}}'', when the protagonist smokes his first cigarette after 15 years of imprisonment (during which he [[TookALevelInBadass has become quite the badass]]), he [[ThisMeansWar takes it away from a gang member's mouth]].
19th Mar '16 8:31:14 AM Eievie
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** The exception is East Asian women, if they're not Westernized enough to smoke cigarettes; while not being Westernized obviously often goes along with poverty and/or isolation, there is also a certain tendency in Asia for the wealthy, especially [[MRSDegree wealthy women]], to stick to traditional dress and habits. Western customs were partly adopted [[BoringButPractical as a business expedient]], after all, and the alternative therefore has gained connotations of luxury and leisure.

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** The exception is East Asian women, if they're not Westernized enough to smoke cigarettes; while not being Westernized obviously often goes along with poverty and/or isolation, there is also a certain tendency in Asia for the wealthy, especially [[MRSDegree wealthy--especially wealthy women]], to ''[[MRSDegree women]]''--to stick to traditional dress and habits. Western customs were partly adopted [[BoringButPractical as a business expedient]], after all, and the alternative therefore has gained connotations of luxury and leisure.
19th Mar '16 8:29:31 AM Eievie
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It is almost never portrayed as '[[SmokingIsCool cool]]' in 21st century media, and even the {{Badass}} seems to be quitting the habit. In children's cartoons, it's perfectly acceptable for a villain to smoke, especially if they [[SecondFaceSmoke blow it in somebody's face]], but the hero thinks it's a disgusting habit, or they may be trying to quit. Alternatively, a heavy smoker may be shown as extremely affected by the smoke to show how bad it is.

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It is almost never portrayed as '[[SmokingIsCool cool]]' [[SmokingIsCool "cool"]] in 21st century media, and even the {{Badass}} seems to be quitting the habit. In children's cartoons, it's perfectly acceptable for a villain to smoke, especially if they [[SecondFaceSmoke blow it in somebody's face]], but the hero thinks it's a disgusting habit, or they may be trying to quit. Alternatively, a heavy smoker may be shown as extremely affected by the smoke to show how bad it is.



* The smoker is under extreme amounts of stress (usually associated with nervous pacing; think "[[PanickyExpectantFather father in a maternity ward]]").

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* The smoker is under extreme amounts of stress (usually associated with nervous pacing; think "[[PanickyExpectantFather father [[PanickyExpectantFather "father in a maternity ward]]").ward"]]).



* The smoker is celebrating; cigars are associated with 'special occasions' because they are expensive.

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* The smoker is celebrating; cigars are associated with 'special occasions' "special occasions" because they are expensive.



* A cigarette holder, especially the long ones, is an Evil Smoking indicator, usually reserved for evil bitches [[RichBitch of]] [[ManipulativeBastard all]] [[MagnificentBastard kinds]]. However, as symbols of class and elegance, a female using a cigarette holder could be either Good or Evil, depending on the time the work was made.
* ''Male'' users of cigarette holders are always Evil unless they're ThePinkPanther, Creator/HunterSThompson, or UsefulNotes/{{F|ranklinDRoosevelt}}DR (or an {{Expy}} thereof), who is allowed to use the holder by means of the GrandfatherClause.[[note]] (FDR himself once explained to a child that he used a cigarette holder because "I promised my doctor that I would stay as far away as possible from a cigarette.")[[/note]]

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* A cigarette holder, especially the long ones, is an Evil Smoking indicator, usually reserved for evil bitches [[RichBitch of]] evil bitches]] [[ManipulativeBastard of all]] [[MagnificentBastard kinds]]. However, as symbols of class and elegance, a female using a cigarette holder could be either Good or Evil, depending on the time the work was made.
* ''Male'' users of cigarette holders are always Evil unless they're ThePinkPanther, Creator/HunterSThompson, or UsefulNotes/{{F|ranklinDRoosevelt}}DR (or an {{Expy}} thereof), who is allowed to use the holder by means of the GrandfatherClause.[[note]] (FDR himself once explained to a child that he used a cigarette holder because because, "I promised my doctor that I would stay as far away as possible from a cigarette.")[[/note]]



* The character is TheStoner, and smoking is a part of their character. Of course in a lot of films with Stoners, TheStoner gets killed so smoking is very, very bad for you indeed...

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* The character is TheStoner, and smoking is a part of their character. Of course in a lot of films with Stoners, TheStoner gets killed so smoking is very, very bad for you indeed...indeed…
14th Mar '16 2:22:29 PM Prfnoff
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-->'''Stone''': Nasty habit.

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-->'''Stone''': Nasty habit.\\
14th Mar '16 2:22:11 PM Prfnoff
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* In ''Theatre/CityOfAngels'', when FemmeFatale Alaura Kingsley takes a drag on Stone's cigarette after making him an offer he can't refuse:
-->'''Stone''': Nasty habit.
'''Alaura''': Only kind to have. ''(She returns the cigarette to his lips)''
4th Mar '16 11:43:35 PM nombretomado
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** The Thing has been known to chomp on cigars, as has ComicBook/NickFury. This was because their shared co-creator JackKirby loved cigars, and put elements of himself into both characters.
** ''The Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'':

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** The Thing has been known to chomp on cigars, as has ComicBook/NickFury. This was because their shared co-creator JackKirby Creator/JackKirby loved cigars, and put elements of himself into both characters.
** ''The Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'':Comicbook/XMen'':



** In reprints of the original 1940's CaptainAmerica, Steve Rogers can be seen smoking a pipe. This gets the "correct to the era" exemption (probably why Marvel didn't photoshop the pipe out).

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** In reprints of the original 1940's CaptainAmerica, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, Steve Rogers can be seen smoking a pipe. This gets the "correct to the era" exemption (probably why Marvel didn't photoshop the pipe out).
8th Feb '16 4:16:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* The early ''[[TheCatWhoSeries Cat Who...]]'' books were written in the 1960s and depicted the main character as a pipe smoker. The series was discontinued after only a few books, but revived close to 20 years later. At that point, attitudes about smoking had greatly changed and within a couple books into the relaunch, a female doctor convinced Qwilleran to drop the pipe.

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* The early ''[[TheCatWhoSeries ''[[Literature/TheCatWhoSeries Cat Who...]]'' books were written in the 1960s and depicted the main character as a pipe smoker. The series was discontinued after only a few books, but revived close to 20 years later. At that point, attitudes about smoking had greatly changed and within a couple books into the relaunch, a female doctor convinced Qwilleran to drop the pipe.
27th Jan '16 5:03:30 PM Justadoo444
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** Disney released quit-smoking ads on their [=DVDs=] featuring clips of Cruella and her ''greeeeeen'' smoke.

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** Disney released quit-smoking ads on their [=DVDs=] featuring clips of Cruella and her ''greeeeeen'' smoke. [[note]]Mid-2015 and up. In 2008-early 2015, a Disney/{{Pinocchio}}-themed ad was used. See the entry below.[[/note]]



** [[BigBad Ratigan]], the world's greatest... mouse and criminal mind, uses a cigarette holder.

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** [[BigBad Ratigan]], the world's greatest... mouse [[BerserkButton mouse]] and criminal mind, uses a cigarette holder.
22nd Jan '16 4:12:54 PM nombretomado
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** StephenFry mentions in one episode that he was the last person awarded Pipe Smoker of the Year. A gentleman if ever there was.

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** StephenFry Creator/StephenFry mentions in one episode that he was the last person awarded Pipe Smoker of the Year. A gentleman if ever there was.
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