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11th Feb '17 9:00:55 AM Jisu
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* ''Disney/OneHundredAndOneDalmatians'':
** Cruella [=DeVil=] not only smokes, but for added evil, uses a cigarette holder. Indeed, no animated film ever made smoking look more disgusting than this film with Cruella polluting the air with green smoke and putting out her cigarette in a pastry.
** In addition, the quick scene where Jasper Badun contemptuously flicks cigar ash onto Horace's sandwich bread is even more stomach churning.
** Disney released quit-smoking ads on their [=DVDs=] featuring clips of Cruella and her ''greeeeeen'' smoke. [[note]]Mid-2015 and up. In 2008-early 2015, a Disney/{{Pinocchio}}-themed ad was used. See the entry below.[[/note]]
** Roger smokes as well, but he smokes a pipe.
* In ''Disney/SongOfTheSouth'', [[MagicalNegro Uncle Remus]] smokes a pipe. Along with one of the animated frogs.
* Jim Dear in ''Disney/LadyAndTheTramp'' also smokes a pipe.
* Practically everyone smokes in ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'', including the hero, but seeing how the movie is set in the Victorian Era, it shouldn't really be a surprise.
** Basil, the quick-thinking detective, smokes a pipe.
** [[BigBad Ratigan]], the world's greatest... [[BerserkButton mouse]] and criminal mind, uses a cigarette holder.



** In ''Disney/OneHundredAndOneDalmatians'', Cruella [=DeVil=] not only smokes, but for added evil, uses a cigarette holder. Indeed, no animated film ever made smoking look more disgusting than this film with Cruella polluting the air with green smoke and putting out her cigarette in a pastry. In addition, the quick scene where Jasper Badun contemptuously flicks cigar ash onto Horace's sandwich bread is even more stomach churning. Roger smokes as well, but he smokes a pipe.
*** Disney released quit-smoking ads on their [=DVDs=] featuring clips of Cruella and her ''greeeeeen'' smoke. [[note]]Mid-2015 and up. In 2008-early 2015, a Disney/{{Pinocchio}}-themed ad was used. See the entry below.[[/note]]
** In ''Disney/SongOfTheSouth'', [[MagicalNegro Uncle Remus]] smokes a pipe. Along with one of the animated frogs.
** Jim Dear in ''Disney/LadyAndTheTramp'' also smokes a pipe.
** Practically everyone smokes in ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'', including the hero, but seeing how the movie is set in the Victorian Era, it shouldn't really be a surprise. Basil, the quick-thinking detective, smokes a pipe, while [[BigBad Ratigan]], the world's greatest... [[BerserkButton mouse]] and criminal mind, uses a cigarette holder.



** Early in ''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}'' the kindly Gepetto smokes a pipe. That is the only smoking in the film that isn't evil smoking. The villains Honest John, Gideon, and Stromboli smoke cigars, and the most villainous character, the Coachman, smokes a pipe while also encouraging the boys he abducts at Pleasure Island to smoke cigars including Pinocchio and Lampwick; when they do so, it's a sign they're being corrupted.

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** Early in ''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}'' the kindly Gepetto smokes a pipe. That is the only smoking in the film that isn't evil smoking. The villains Honest John, Gideon, and Stromboli smoke cigars, and the most villainous character, the Coachman, smokes a pipe while also encouraging the boys he abducts at Pleasure Island to smoke cigars including Pinocchio and Lampwick; when they do so, it's a sign they're being corrupted. As noted above, it was also later used in a quit-smoking ad.
11th Feb '17 7:59:25 AM MisterApple
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** The company recently announced that smoking of ''any'' kind, [[ButNotTooEvil by any character]], would never again be depicted in a film released under the Disney Studios label.

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** The company recently eventually announced that smoking of ''any'' kind, [[ButNotTooEvil by any character]], would never again be depicted in a film released under the Disney Studios label.
7th Feb '17 9:31:42 AM PrimeEvil
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* In ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Commissioner Gordon is seen to smoke a pipe in the first three seasons, but ''The New Batman Adventures'' depicted him without it.

7th Feb '17 9:19:50 AM PrimeEvil
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* The 1995 version of ''Richard III'' shows its title character smoking. In real life, Sir Ian [=McKellen=], who plays Richard, is a nonsmoker, but he remembered the "Abdullah" brand of herbal, non-nicotine cigarettes from advertisements he'd seen in his childhood. ''The props department found for him some of the last few surviving packs of Abdullah cigarettes in existence.''

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* The 1995 version of ''Richard III'' ''Film/RichardIII'' shows its title character smoking. In real life, Sir Ian [=McKellen=], who plays Richard, is a nonsmoker, but he remembered the "Abdullah" brand of herbal, non-nicotine cigarettes from advertisements he'd seen in his childhood. ''The props department found for him some of the last few surviving packs of Abdullah cigarettes in existence.''
7th Feb '17 9:18:36 AM PrimeEvil
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* The 1995 version of ''Richard III'' shows its title character smoking. In real life, Sir Ian [=McKellen=], who plays Richard, is a nonsmoker, but he remembered the "Abdullah" brand of herbal, non-nicotine cigarettes from advertisements he'd seen in his childhood. ''The props department found for him some of the last few surviving packs of Abdullah cigarettes in existence.''
2nd Feb '17 1:24:20 PM SwampAdder
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* Literature/SherlockHolmes smokes a pipe in most adaptations of his story. Probably because the screechy violin and the fact that he did drugs in the books made it a case of choosing the lesser evil. He also smokes cigarettes in the original stories, but that detail rarely makes it into other adaptations, probably at least in part because of the prominence of this trope.

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* Literature/SherlockHolmes smokes a pipe in most adaptations of his story. Probably because the screechy violin and the fact that he did drugs also used cocaine in the books made it a case of choosing the lesser evil. He also smokes cigarettes in the original stories, but that detail rarely makes it into other adaptations, probably at least in part because of the prominence of this trope.
20th Jan '17 10:28:39 PM Luppercus
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* Cyril Sneer, the villain in ''WesternAnimation/TheRaccoons'' is always smoking a cigar.

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* Cyril Sneer, the villain in ''WesternAnimation/TheRaccoons'' is always smoking a cigar.
20th Jan '17 10:28:01 PM Luppercus
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* Cyril Sneer, the villain in ''WesternAnimation/TheRaccoons'' is always smoking a cigar.
15th Jan '17 10:02:23 PM DustSnitch
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It is almost never portrayed as [[SmokingIsCool "cool"]] in 21st century media, and even the {{Badass}} seems to be quitting the habit. In children's cartoons, it's perfectly acceptable for a villain to smoke, especially if they [[SecondFaceSmoke blow it in somebody's face]], but the hero thinks it's a disgusting habit, or they may be trying to quit. Alternatively, a heavy smoker may be shown as extremely affected by the smoke to show how bad it is.

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It is almost never portrayed as [[SmokingIsCool "cool"]] in 21st century media, and even the {{Badass}} badass seems to be quitting the habit. In children's cartoons, it's perfectly acceptable for a villain to smoke, especially if they [[SecondFaceSmoke blow it in somebody's face]], but the hero thinks it's a disgusting habit, or they may be trying to quit. Alternatively, a heavy smoker may be shown as extremely affected by the smoke to show how bad it is.



* The smoker is incredibly {{Badass}}. This often uses a CigarChomper.

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* The smoker is incredibly {{Badass}}.badass. This often uses a CigarChomper.



* [[CigarChomper Characters who smoke lots of cigars]] are some combination of {{Badass}}, {{Jerkass}} and rich. Generally, the CorruptCorporateExecutive and Rebel will smoke cigars. If the smoker is out of shape and well-dressed, then they're evil or at least a self-important jerk (unless they're UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill). If the smoker is muscle-bound and wearing rough clothing, they're generally either morally gray or heroic badasses. A woman who smokes a cigar is usually TheVamp.

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* [[CigarChomper Characters who smoke lots of cigars]] are some combination of {{Badass}}, badass, {{Jerkass}} and rich. Generally, the CorruptCorporateExecutive and Rebel will smoke cigars. If the smoker is out of shape and well-dressed, then they're evil or at least a self-important jerk (unless they're UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill). If the smoker is muscle-bound and wearing rough clothing, they're generally either morally gray or heroic badasses. A woman who smokes a cigar is usually TheVamp.



* The hero from ''Manga/SpaceAdventureCobra'' is a cigar smoker of the {{Badass}} variety. It is very rare to see him without a cigar in the mouth (though not always lighted). Note that his cigars often contains bondesque gadgets (like some allowing ''water-breathing'').

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* The hero from ''Manga/SpaceAdventureCobra'' is a cigar smoker of the {{Badass}} badass variety. It is very rare to see him without a cigar in the mouth (though not always lighted). Note that his cigars often contains bondesque gadgets (like some allowing ''water-breathing'').



* [[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Sir Integra Hellsing]] is known for smoking manly cigars, both because she's a BadAss, and because she's a {{Bifauxnen}}.

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* [[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Sir Integra Hellsing]] is known for smoking manly cigars, both because she's a BadAss, badass, and because she's a {{Bifauxnen}}.



* Hijikata Toshirou of ''Manga/{{Gintama}}'' is known for his chain cigarette smoking, and falls under both the sexy and BadAss exceptions. The mayonnaise bottle lighter ruins the effect somewhat. Or enhances it, whatever works for you. Quite a few characters in the series smoke, including Otose who smokes almost as much as Hijikata. The main villain Takasugi Shinsuke however smokes a long pipe. Tsukuyo also smokes a pipe, but though she was introduced as a villain she soon became one of the good guys.

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* Hijikata Toshirou of ''Manga/{{Gintama}}'' is known for his chain cigarette smoking, and falls under both the sexy and BadAss badass exceptions. The mayonnaise bottle lighter ruins the effect somewhat. Or enhances it, whatever works for you. Quite a few characters in the series smoke, including Otose who smokes almost as much as Hijikata. The main villain Takasugi Shinsuke however smokes a long pipe. Tsukuyo also smokes a pipe, but though she was introduced as a villain she soon became one of the good guys.



* ''Manga/{{Mushishi}}'' protagonist Ginko is an unusual example of a non-{{Badass}} good guy who smokes cigarillos - he's rarely seen without one. Likely more of a tool than a vice, though, as the smoke they give off keeps [[TheFairFolk mushi]] from getting too close for comfort.

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* ''Manga/{{Mushishi}}'' protagonist Ginko is an unusual example of a non-{{Badass}} non-badass good guy who smokes cigarillos - he's rarely seen without one. Likely more of a tool than a vice, though, as the smoke they give off keeps [[TheFairFolk mushi]] from getting too close for comfort.



** The Comedian chomps cigars, lighting one with the torch of his flamethrower, to show that he's a BadAss as well as a JerkAss.

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** The Comedian chomps cigars, lighting one with the torch of his flamethrower, to show that he's a BadAss badass as well as a JerkAss.



* Snake Plissken, tough guy BadAss from ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', smokes through that movie, and actually got the final shot with a PowerWalk and a cigarette. In ''Film/EscapeFromLA'' he doesn't have access to cigarettes until the end, in which he illuminates his face purely with the light of his match. In fact, the film is supportive of smoking rights. John Carpenter himself is a chain smoker.

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* Snake Plissken, tough guy BadAss badass from ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', smokes through that movie, and actually got the final shot with a PowerWalk and a cigarette. In ''Film/EscapeFromLA'' he doesn't have access to cigarettes until the end, in which he illuminates his face purely with the light of his match. In fact, the film is supportive of smoking rights. John Carpenter himself is a chain smoker.



* Commander Julius Root of ''Literature/ArtemisFowl'' fame is well known for constantly having a cigar in his mouth, though his are not made of tobacco but of some unnamed (and nasty-smelling) fungus. He's pretty BadAss, but mostly he's DaChief, so he's contractually obligated to have one.

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* Commander Julius Root of ''Literature/ArtemisFowl'' fame is well known for constantly having a cigar in his mouth, though his are not made of tobacco but of some unnamed (and nasty-smelling) fungus. He's pretty BadAss, badass, but mostly he's DaChief, so he's contractually obligated to have one.



* Music/KinkyFriedman smokes cigars but BadAss may not be the best way to describe him.

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* Music/KinkyFriedman smokes cigars but BadAss badass may not be the best way to describe him.



* Both incarnations of Starbuck enjoy cigars (when they are available) on ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|1978}}'', as an indication of their {{Badass}}ness and masculinity/{{Tomboy}}ishness.

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* Both incarnations of Starbuck enjoy cigars (when they are available) on ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|1978}}'', as an indication of their {{Badass}}ness badassness and masculinity/{{Tomboy}}ishness.



* [[TheSpock Sasha]] [[TheStoic Nein]] of ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' chain-smokes constantly. He's good--he smokes through the European (he's {{German|icDepressives}}) and BadAss exceptions. It also helps with his image as a fifties-esque super spy and G-Man.

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* [[TheSpock Sasha]] [[TheStoic Nein]] of ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' chain-smokes constantly. He's good--he smokes through the European (he's {{German|icDepressives}}) and BadAss badass exceptions. It also helps with his image as a fifties-esque super spy and G-Man.



* Tychus in ''VideoGame/StarcraftII'' smokes cigars, inside his helmet, and fits the BadAss and JerkAss sterotypes. Raynor on the other hand keeps a pack of cigarettes in his bandolier that he's only shown smoking a couple times.

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* Tychus in ''VideoGame/StarcraftII'' smokes cigars, inside his helmet, and fits the BadAss and JerkAss sterotypes.stereotype. Raynor on the other hand keeps a pack of cigarettes in his bandolier that he's only shown smoking a couple times.



* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' uses the BadAss variant of Good Smoking very briefly and even then it seems to be used solely as setup to identify a character's silhouette.
* ''Webcomic/TheThrillingAdventuresOfLovelaceAndBabbage'': Ada Lovelace, while not a pipe smoker in reality, has been given one for the purposes of this comic. It does, however, represent [[BadAss Isambard Kingdom Brunel's]] 40-a-day cigar habit fairly accurately.

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* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' uses the BadAss badass variant of Good Smoking very briefly and even then it seems to be used solely as setup to identify a character's silhouette.
* ''Webcomic/TheThrillingAdventuresOfLovelaceAndBabbage'': Ada Lovelace, while not a pipe smoker in reality, has been given one for the purposes of this comic. It does, however, represent [[BadAss Isambard Kingdom Brunel's]] Brunel's 40-a-day cigar habit fairly accurately.



* Used to varying degrees in ''Roleplay/DinoAttackRPG''. There were a number of characters who smoked for varying reasons. Cigarettes were commonly invoked by criminals or people with a shady past like Trigger, his partners, Snake, and Montoya, though granted they were also used by the comparatively more honest [[HardboiledDetective Detective Bogart]]. Clint Wayne often invoked the CigarChomper method which established him as a {{Badass}} [[TheGunslinger gunslinger]], though also justified by [[ItMakesSenseInContext him coming from a Western community]]. Meanwhile Angel Eyes likes to use the DistinguishedGentlemansPipe.

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* Used to varying degrees in ''Roleplay/DinoAttackRPG''. There were a number of characters who smoked for varying reasons. Cigarettes were commonly invoked by criminals or people with a shady past like Trigger, his partners, Snake, and Montoya, though granted they were also used by the comparatively more honest [[HardboiledDetective Detective Bogart]]. Clint Wayne often invoked the CigarChomper method which established him as a {{Badass}} badass [[TheGunslinger gunslinger]], though also justified by [[ItMakesSenseInContext him coming from a Western community]]. Meanwhile Angel Eyes likes to use the DistinguishedGentlemansPipe.
6th Jan '17 6:11:06 AM SeptimusHeap
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* [[CigarChomper Characters who smoke lots of cigars]] are some combination of {{Badass}}, {{Jerkass}} and rich. Generally, the CorruptCorporateExecutive and Rebel will smoke cigars. If the smoker is out of shape and well-dressed, then they're evil or at least a self-important jerk (unless they're UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill). If the smoker is muscle-bound and wearing rough clothing, they're generally either morally gray or heroic badasses. A woman [[FreudWasRight who smokes a cigar]] is usually TheVamp.

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* [[CigarChomper Characters who smoke lots of cigars]] are some combination of {{Badass}}, {{Jerkass}} and rich. Generally, the CorruptCorporateExecutive and Rebel will smoke cigars. If the smoker is out of shape and well-dressed, then they're evil or at least a self-important jerk (unless they're UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill). If the smoker is muscle-bound and wearing rough clothing, they're generally either morally gray or heroic badasses. A woman [[FreudWasRight who smokes a cigar]] cigar is usually TheVamp.
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