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...they are [[IWorkAlone asocial]] and sometimes [[SociopathicHero downright rude]]. They [[FigureItOutYourself may refuse to explain]] ''anything''. They actively refuse offers of [[ThinkNothingOfIt gratitude]], [[ThePowerOfFriendship friendship]], [[ThePowerOfLove love]], and/or [[DontYouDarePityMe support for their own emotional problems]]. Yes, they'll always be there for you. But they don't always seem to ''like'' you.

# They may [[ItsAllAboutMe want to be selfish and arrogant]] or just [[HeroicNeutral unbiased to either side]], but [[ConscienceMakesYouGoBack their morality keeps on getting in the way]], even if it is to their detriment. They may put on "jerkass/bitch mask" to try to counter it.

# They weren't always like [[GoodIsNotNice this.]] They had [[MayflyDecemberFriendship friends]] and/or even [[MayflyDecemberRomance romantic relationships]], but time kept taking their friends and family from them. So, at some point, they decided never to have any relationship deeper than acquaintance.

# They ''do'' consider themselves as better than everyone else, and their attitudes range from SmugSuper to InsufferableGenius to Arrogant Prick. After all, it is difficult for them to be nice to people when they do not even respect them. However, they still feel compelled to help these lower creatures on a regular basis.

[[folder:Types of heroes that will have an edgy streak]]

[[folder:Type of heroes that will have an edgy streak]]

'''For your convenience, here are tropes which focus on the types of good guys who aren't nice as well as actions that demonstrate it''':
[[folder:Edgy types of heroes]]

# They may want to be [[NiceGuy affable people]], but they believe that [[GoodIsNotSoft being nice does not always get things done]], and that doing good requires them to be [[CruelToBeKind harsh and cruel]], [[TricksterMentor particularly if they have to teach something]]. (This may be an intermittent effect, applied only when necessary; contrast BewareTheNiceOnes, where such outbursts result from break-down. On the other hand, emotional trauma ''can'' coincide with the realization that nicety won't cut it.)

* They may [[ItsAllAboutMe want to be selfish and arrogant]] or just [[HeroicNeutral unbiased to either side]], but [[ConscienceMakesYouGoBack their morality keeps on getting in the way]], even if it is to their detriment. They may put on "jerkass/bitch mask" to try to counter it.
* They ''do'' consider themselves as better than everyone else, and their attitudes range from SmugSuper to InsufferableGenius to Arrogant Prick. After all, it is difficult for them to be nice to people when they do not even respect them. However, they still feel compelled to help these lower creatures on a regular basis.
* They are [[IWorkAlone natural loners]]. Their senses of duty force them to perform heroic acts, but they do not consider chitchat or politeness to be parts of their obligations.
* They may want to be [[NiceGuy affable people]], but they believe that [[GoodIsNotSoft being nice does not always get things done]], and that doing good requires them to be [[CruelToBeKind harsh and cruel]], [[TricksterMentor particularly if they have to teach something]]. (This may be an intermittent effect, applied only when necessary; contrast BewareTheNiceOnes, where such outbursts result from break-down. On the other hand, emotional trauma ''can'' coincide with the realization that nicety won't cut it.)
* [[ItsNotYouItsMyEnemies They cannot afford to let others get close to them because their enemies will use others against them]].
* They might wish to be nice but live so far outside normal human experience that they have no idea how to go about it; similarly, the hero might be autistic, or a non-human alien.
* They weren't always like [[GoodIsNotNice this.]] They had [[MayflyDecemberFriendship friends]] and/or even [[MayflyDecemberRomance romantic relationships]], but time kept taking their friends and family from them. So, at some point, they decided never to have any relationship deeper than acquaintance.
* [[CrapsackWorld The world the heroes live in]] is operated [[BlackAndGrayMorality through cynical ends]], so Strict Good Guyism does not work - either in the eyes of the author or in a literal in-universe sense.
* They operate on BlueAndOrangeMorality, their unpleasant actions can be seen as “nice” in their worldview.
* They [[TerrorHero intimidate enemies through harsh demeanors]].
* They [[HeelFaceTurn used to be a villain]] before warming up to the heroes. While they may have renounced their evil ways, [[ReformedButNotTamed they retain their bad attitude]].

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* They weren't always like [[GoodIsNotNice this.]] they had [[MayflyDecemberFriendship friends]] and/or even [[MayflyDecemberRomance romantic relationships]], but time kept taking their friends and family from them. So, at some point, they decided never to have any relationship deeper than acquaintance.

AffablyEvil is when a villain is polite, friendly and genuinely kind, even while plotting evil. Good Is Not Nice is the inverse: characters who are rude, unfriendly, and mean, but still fimly on the side of good.