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8th Oct '16 11:10:28 AM WillyFourEyes
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Compare and contrast BoringButPractical (which this trope can also be paired with). Contrast EvilIsCool and GoodFeelsGood. Can result from a BoringInvincibleHero and is a common complaint regarding PuritySue. Tangentially related to VictoryIsBoring, which can occur with both good and evil characters. One possible reason why AllGirlsWantBadBoys.

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Compare and contrast BoringButPractical (which this trope can also be paired with). Contrast EvilIsCool and GoodFeelsGood. Can result from a BoringInvincibleHero and is a common complaint regarding the PuritySue. Tangentially related to VictoryIsBoring, which can occur with both good and evil characters. One possible reason why AllGirlsWantBadBoys.



* In Manga/{{Naruto}} [[BigBad Orochimaru]] believes this. He uses a [[InsaneTrollLogic twisted logic]] to convince himself that if a windmill (the world) isn't turning (is peaceful) then it's just plain dull. Naturally, he believes things will be interesting if he destroys the leaf village. [[spoiler: It's revealed that this wasn't his only motive, since he wanted revenge on the Third Hokage]].

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* In Manga/{{Naruto}} [[BigBad Orochimaru]] from ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' believes this. He uses a [[InsaneTrollLogic twisted form of logic]] to convince himself that if a windmill (the world) isn't turning (is peaceful) then it's just plain dull. Naturally, he believes things will be interesting if he destroys the leaf village.Leaf Village. [[spoiler: It's revealed that this wasn't his only motive, since he wanted revenge on the Third Hokage]].



* Towards the end of ''ComicBook/{{Supergod}}'', the artificial metahuman Daijal who can see all possible timelines at once reveals that the joining of Krishna and Jerry Craven will result in a Singularity-based utopia... which is why Daijal immediatly detonates himself and destroys the world because he considers utopia to be so boring that extinction is preferable.

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* Towards the end of ''ComicBook/{{Supergod}}'', the artificial metahuman Daijal who can see all possible timelines at once reveals that the joining of Krishna and Jerry Craven will result in a Singularity-based utopia... which is why Daijal immediatly immediately detonates himself and destroys the world because he considers utopia to be so boring that extinction is preferable.



--> "There is no right or wrong. There's only fun and boring. A twenty year prison sentence sounds a trifle dull to me."

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--> "There is no right or wrong. There's only fun and boring. A twenty year twenty-year prison sentence sounds a trifle dull to me."



* A lot of books, video games, and even movies in the [[StarWars Star Wars Universe]] include this trope, since the primary expected duties of the Jedi are heavily implied, if not outright stated, to be meditating on the will of the Force, and gaining peace and serenity. Everything else, including policing the galaxy, advising politicians, and fighting Sith are supposed to be secondary, especially when the Jedi aren't currently involved in any wars.
* Rand al'Thor has this reaction at the climax of Literature/TheWheelOfTime, in rather interesting and nuanced way. [[spoiler: During his duel with a powerful cosmic evil, in which each combatant forges a simulated AlternateUniverse in an effort to break the other, he creates a world totally cleansed of evil. It horrifies him, because [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul although everyone he knows is happy and good]], they also lack the free will and the capacity for evil to make being good meaningful.]]
** More specifically [[spoiler: he realizes that everyone has some measure of good and evil in them, and its that contrast, and the urges and negative emotions coupled with the urges and positive emotions that makes the people he knows who they are, gives them depth, makes them actual, complex ''people''. He meets [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething Elayne]] and discovers that she has gone from a politically savvy ActionGirl to what can essentially be described as all the AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits all in one character, with none of the complexity ''anything'' on that list might possibly have. And not just her. ''[[SugarBowl Everyone is like that. Everyone is happy that way.]] '' [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul But they have no choice '''but''' to be happy that way.]] They have no options except for the "perfect" ones. They have no ability to choose any option that is less than completely selfless and "good". ''[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone And he made them that way.]]'' [[{{Room101}} He is utterly horrified and repulsed by what he sees.]]]]

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* A lot of books, video games, and even movies in the [[StarWars Star Wars Universe]] ''Franchise/StarWars'' Universe include this trope, since the primary expected duties of the Jedi are heavily implied, if not outright stated, to be meditating on the will of the Force, and gaining peace and serenity. Everything else, including policing the galaxy, advising politicians, and fighting Sith are supposed to be secondary, especially when the Jedi aren't currently involved in any wars.
* Rand al'Thor has this reaction at the climax of Literature/TheWheelOfTime, ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', in a rather interesting and nuanced way. [[spoiler: During his duel with a powerful cosmic evil, in which each combatant forges a simulated AlternateUniverse in an effort to break the other, he creates a world totally cleansed of evil. It horrifies him, because [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul although everyone he knows is happy and good]], they also lack the free will and the capacity for evil to make being good meaningful.]]
** More specifically [[spoiler: he realizes that everyone has some measure of good and evil in them, and its that contrast, and the urges and negative emotions coupled with the urges and positive emotions that makes the people he knows who they are, gives them depth, makes them actual, complex ''people''. He meets [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething Elayne]] and discovers that she has gone from a politically savvy politically-savvy ActionGirl to what can essentially be described as all the AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits all in one character, with none of the complexity ''anything'' on that list might possibly have. And not just her. ''[[SugarBowl Everyone is like that. Everyone is happy that way.]] '' [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul But they have no choice '''but''' to be happy that way.]] They have no options except for the "perfect" ones. They have no ability to choose any option that is less than completely selfless and "good". ''[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone And he made them that way.]]'' [[{{Room101}} [[{{Room 101}} He is utterly horrified and repulsed by what he sees.]]]]



* The [[MultipleEndings true cheaters ending]] of ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}''. [[spoiler: [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie And then Vincent became an incubus]]]].

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* The [[MultipleEndings true cheaters True Cheaters ending]] of ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}''. [[spoiler: [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie And then Vincent became an incubus]]]].



* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames - Faces of Evil''

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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames - In the opening to ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames Link: Faces of Evil''Evil]]'', Link feels this way:



* Robert Rath, in [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/criticalintel/10911-The-Devil-and-Corvo-Attano this article]], argues that ''{{Dishonored}}'' deconstructs this trope in a meta way by having the Satan figure subtly stacking the deck in favour of the player getting bored of stealth and non-lethal options. Thus, the player ends up [[MoralEventHorizon murdering people en masse because they found it more fun to do so.]] Just as The Outsider planned.

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* Robert Rath, in [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/criticalintel/10911-The-Devil-and-Corvo-Attano this article]], argues that ''{{Dishonored}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'' deconstructs this trope in a meta way by having the Satan figure subtly stacking the deck in favour of the player getting bored of stealth and non-lethal options. Thus, the player ends up [[MoralEventHorizon murdering people en masse because they found it more fun to do so.]] Just as The Outsider planned.



** Averted by the LawfulGood {{heaven}}: people reunite with their dead friends and enjoy idealized versions of mortal activities (like the Tavern of Infinite One Night Stands) for as long as they want to, moving on to more spiritually fulfilling pursuits as they let go of their old lives.

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** Averted by the LawfulGood {{heaven}}: people reunite with their dead friends and enjoy idealized versions of mortal activities (like the Tavern of [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex Infinite One Night Stands) Stands]]) for as long as they want to, moving on to more spiritually fulfilling pursuits as they let go of their old lives.
26th Sep '16 7:06:21 AM LentilSandEater
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:: It's notable that he's not saying exactly ''why'' the first Matrix was a disaster, and in the second movie, the Architect strongly hints that it's more along the lines of [[OrderVersusChaos Order Is Boring.]]

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:: It's notable that he's not saying exactly ''why'' the first Matrix was a disaster, and in ** In the second movie, the Architect strongly hints that it's more along the lines of [[OrderVersusChaos Order Is Boring.]]
19th Sep '16 8:29:04 PM PaulA
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* Played to a T in [[Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality For Love Of Evil]], where the devil actually makes some parts of Hell so much more interesting than Heaven that a soul in Heaven begs Satan to take him back to Hell when he returns. Heaven itself, as Satan notes, is actually a very boring place where people spend a lot of time sitting around.

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* Played to a T in [[Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality For Love Of Evil]], where In ''Literature/ForLoveOfEvil'', the devil actually makes some parts of Hell so much more interesting than Heaven that a soul in Heaven begs Satan to take him back to Hell when he returns. Heaven itself, as Satan notes, is actually a very boring place where people spend a lot of time sitting around.
26th Aug '16 10:27:38 PM Ajardoor
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* Robert Rath, in [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/criticalintel/10911-The-Devil-and-Corvo-Attano this article]], argues that ''{{Dishonored}}'' deconstructs this trope in a meta way by having the Satan figure subtly stacking the deck in favour of the player getting bored of stealth and non-lethal options. Thus, the player ends up [[MoralEventHorizon murdering people en masse because they found it more fun to do so.]] Just as The Outsider planned.
23rd Aug '16 11:50:51 AM MaulMachine
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*** But then arguably confirmed by Word of God in a forum post. When you go far enough along the process "that is specifically what the afterlife does. It makes you into a cookie-cutter clone of everyone of the same alignment. It may take centuries to do so, but all the people at the top of the mountain? Completely indistinguishable from one another. Arguably, that is the purpose of the D&D afterlife—to turn flawed mortal souls into perfect alignment-batteries, through various methodologies. ... In Celestia (LG), you meditate until you renounce all worldly concerns". So the start of the afterlife is fun. The end, not so much.

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*** But then arguably confirmed by Word of God in a forum post. When you go far enough along the process "that is specifically what the afterlife does. It makes you into a cookie-cutter clone of everyone of the same alignment. It may take centuries to do so, but all the people at the top of the mountain? Completely indistinguishable from one another. Arguably, that is the purpose of the D&D afterlife—to turn flawed mortal souls into perfect alignment-batteries, through various methodologies. ... In Celestia (LG), you meditate until you renounce all worldly concerns". So the start of the afterlife is fun. The end, not so much. By the same token, Hell is a place where you're tortured until you're not even a person any more, and the end result is that you no longer want any more experiences. People in Celestia can also apparently go back down and have more fun at the first tier of the mountain anyway, so it's hardly a punishment for LG people at least.
22nd Aug '16 4:40:43 PM tomandtish
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***But then arguably confirmed by Word of God in a forum post. When you go far enough along the process "that is specifically what the afterlife does. It makes you into a cookie-cutter clone of everyone of the same alignment. It may take centuries to do so, but all the people at the top of the mountain? Completely indistinguishable from one another. Arguably, that is the purpose of the D&D afterlife—to turn flawed mortal souls into perfect alignment-batteries, through various methodologies. ... In Celestia (LG), you meditate until you renounce all worldly concerns". So the start of the afterlife is fun. The end, not so much.
16th Jul '16 12:15:37 PM nombretomado
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* The [[MultipleEndings true cheaters ending]] of ''{{Catherine}}''. [[spoiler: [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie And then Vincent became an incubus]]]].

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* The [[MultipleEndings true cheaters ending]] of ''{{Catherine}}''.''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}''. [[spoiler: [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie And then Vincent became an incubus]]]].



* VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames - Faces of Evil

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* VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames - Faces of EvilEvil''
21st Jun '16 12:32:07 PM Morgenthaler
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** Inverted by Lewis again in ''TheScrewtapeLetters'', where demons try to minimize the enjoyment people get out of sin, hating joy just like other positive emotions. Moreover, they see God as a hedonist bent on undermining the order and dignity of Hell.
* Played to a T in [[IncarnationsOfImmortality For Love Of Evil]], where the devil actually makes some parts of Hell so much more interesting than Heaven that a soul in Heaven begs Satan to take him back to Hell when he returns. Heaven itself, as Satan notes, is actually a very boring place where people spend a lot of time sitting around.

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** * Inverted by Lewis again in ''TheScrewtapeLetters'', ''Literature/TheScrewtapeLetters'', where demons try to minimize the enjoyment people get out of sin, hating joy just like other positive emotions. Moreover, they see God as a hedonist bent on undermining the order and dignity of Hell.
* Played to a T in [[IncarnationsOfImmortality [[Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality For Love Of Evil]], where the devil actually makes some parts of Hell so much more interesting than Heaven that a soul in Heaven begs Satan to take him back to Hell when he returns. Heaven itself, as Satan notes, is actually a very boring place where people spend a lot of time sitting around.



* Rand al'Thor has this reaction at the climax of TheWheelOfTime, in rather interesting and nuanced way. [[spoiler: During his duel with a powerful cosmic evil, in which each combatant forges a simulated AlternateUniverse in an effort to break the other, he creates a world totally cleansed of evil. It horrifies him, because [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul although everyone he knows is happy and good]], they also lack the free will and the capacity for evil to make being good meaningful.]]

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* Rand al'Thor has this reaction at the climax of TheWheelOfTime, Literature/TheWheelOfTime, in rather interesting and nuanced way. [[spoiler: During his duel with a powerful cosmic evil, in which each combatant forges a simulated AlternateUniverse in an effort to break the other, he creates a world totally cleansed of evil. It horrifies him, because [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul although everyone he knows is happy and good]], they also lack the free will and the capacity for evil to make being good meaningful.]]
5th May '16 2:26:07 PM aye_amber
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* One of the "Censored Eleven" WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, ''Clean Pastures'' (1937), starts out with Heaven ("Pair-O-Dice"-- oh yes, there are reasons this is on the Censored Eleven list) losing ground to "Hades, Inc." and its Harlem jazz clubs, until Gabriel gets him some swingin' angels of his own (modeled on performers like Music/CabCalloway, Music/LouisArmstrong, and Music/FatsWaller)-- and then Good is so '''not''' Boring that ''Satan himself'' tries to get back in!

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* One of the "Censored Eleven" WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, ''Clean Pastures'' (1937), starts out with Heaven ("Pair-O-Dice"-- oh yes, there are reasons this is on the Censored Eleven list) losing ground to "Hades, Inc." and its Harlem jazz clubs, until Gabriel gets him some swingin' angels of his own (modeled on performers like Music/CabCalloway, Music/LouisArmstrong, and Music/FatsWaller)-- ''Fats Waller'')-- and then Good is so '''not''' Boring that ''Satan himself'' tries to get back in!
28th Feb '16 11:10:40 AM nombretomado
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* This is shown as an issue between Tom and his wife in ''TheBoondocks''. Tom, a straight-laced, calm, morally upstanding man, apparently bores his wife to tears, to the point where she throws him out of the house at one especially low point, and is shown to lust after "bad boys" like [[ChrisBrown Pretty Boy Flizzy]]. Flizzy himself sums up his success with women with the term "bitches hate being bored".

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* This is shown as an issue between Tom and his wife in ''TheBoondocks''. ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks''. Tom, a straight-laced, calm, morally upstanding man, apparently bores his wife to tears, to the point where she throws him out of the house at one especially low point, and is shown to lust after "bad boys" like [[ChrisBrown [[Music/ChrisBrown Pretty Boy Flizzy]]. Flizzy himself sums up his success with women with the term "bitches hate being bored".
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