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21st May '18 10:53:14 PM randomtroper89
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Good For Bad always uses a switch. That is, the bad thing is swapped in for the good thing, without the mark knowing, often using sleight of hand or switching identical bags. The counterfeit money that is being sold looks so good because it ''is'' real money, but it isn't what goes into the bag at the exchange. The "fast" horse twin is the same horse, on drugs. The last time you ever see the real art masterpiece is when you give it over to be replicated.

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Good For Bad always uses a switch. That is, the bad thing is swapped in for the good thing, without the mark knowing, often using sleight of hand or switching identical bags. The counterfeit money that is being sold looks so good because it ''is'' is real money, but it isn't what goes into the bag at the exchange. The "fast" horse twin is the same horse, on drugs. The last time you ever see the real art masterpiece is when you give it over to be replicated.



* ''[[Film/OceansEleven Ocean's Twelve]]'' intended to do this to the Coronation Egg-swap out the real egg for a hologram-before a rival thief, Francois Toulour, beat them to it and won a bet. [[spoiler:The twist was they ''already'' switched the real egg for a fake one while the real one was transported by a nondescript courier.]]
* Played with in the threequel ''Ocean's Thirteen'', where Linus [[spoiler: and his father]] swapped out Willy Bank's Five Diamond awards for fakes, only for Toulour to steal them from him. [[spoiler: He actually stole the fakes. Linus actually was there to plant bombs around the case the diamonds were in to steal the entire case, diamonds and all.]]
* In ''Film/CatchMeIfYouCan,'' [[ConMan Frank Abagnale]] overpays a high-class prostitute with a phony cashier's check and receives his change in cash, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome effectively tricking a gorgeous hooker into paying him $400 for a night of testing the hotel's bedsprings.]]
** Frank avoids getting the JerkAss tag for this because the hooker was not up-front with him about what she was. He thought he had simply found an attractive woman willing to take a romp with him. It wasn't until they were about to... seal the deal that she started negotiating a very steep price for her services. Once Frank caught on that he was effectively being conned himself, he took the opportunity to turn the tables on her.
** According to Frank Abagnale's book (which was the basis for the movie), this incident ultimately cost him big-time as the hooker gave the FBI a description of him, something they didn't have before then.

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* ''[[Film/OceansEleven Ocean's Twelve]]'' ''Film/OceansEleven'':
** ''Ocean's Twelve''
intended to do this to the Coronation Egg-swap out the real egg for a hologram-before a rival thief, Francois Toulour, beat them to it and won a bet. [[spoiler:The twist was they ''already'' already switched the real egg for a fake one while the real one was transported by a nondescript courier.]]
* ** Played with in the threequel ''Ocean's Thirteen'', where Linus [[spoiler: and his father]] swapped out Willy Bank's Five Diamond awards for fakes, only for Toulour to steal them from him. [[spoiler: He actually stole the fakes. Linus actually was there to plant bombs around the case the diamonds were in to steal the entire case, diamonds and all.]]
* In ''Film/CatchMeIfYouCan,'' [[ConMan Frank Abagnale]] overpays thinks he found an attractive woman willing to take a romp with him only for her to reveal herself as a high-class prostitute prostitute. Frankto turns the tables on her, by overpaying her with a phony cashier's check and receives his change in cash, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome effectively tricking a gorgeous hooker into paying him $400 for a night of testing the hotel's bedsprings.]]
** Frank avoids getting the JerkAss tag for this because the hooker was not up-front with him about what she was. He thought he had simply found an attractive woman willing to take a romp with him. It wasn't until they were about to... seal the deal that she started negotiating a very steep price for her services. Once Frank caught on that he was effectively being conned himself, he took the opportunity to turn the tables on her.
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]] According to Frank Abagnale's book (which was the basis for the movie), this incident ultimately cost him big-time as the hooker gave the FBI a description of him, something they didn't have before then.
12th Jan '18 6:05:31 AM VicGeorge2011
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* God in [[Literature/BookOfMalachi Malachi 1:14]] from ''Literature/TheBible'' says "cursed be the deceiver who has in his flock a male, and vows, and yet sacrifices to the Lord what is blemished." Basically saying that God does not like people conning Him out of good sacrificial animals by offering a bad one in its place.
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12th Dec '17 5:07:52 PM nombretomado
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Good for Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece, I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.

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Good for Bad is TheTale of a ConMan's {{tale}} ConMan that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece, I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.
29th Mar '17 10:35:40 PM TheDocCC
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* The pigeon drop is a classic two-person con. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPsvda1XLug Here's one variant]]. The mark is given a chance to split a sudden windfall. They're asked for good faith money to keep them honest, but the con-man swaps the windfall with something worthless. The classic version is finding a wallet or envelope full of money which the conmen offer to share after checking with the cops or asking at some place if anyone lost it. They ask for good faith money and switch the wallet/envelope with one full of paper. They then leave the mark convinced he is holding the cash and make off with the good faith money.
4th Jan '17 4:32:45 PM moloch
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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "fáinne"[[labelnote:*]]fawn-ya[[/note]], which means "ring".

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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "fáinne"[[labelnote:*]]fawn-ya[[/note]], "fáinne"[[labelnote:*]]fawn-ya[[/labelnote]], which means "ring".
4th Jan '17 4:32:27 PM moloch
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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "faínne", which means "ring".

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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "faínne", "fáinne"[[labelnote:*]]fawn-ya[[/note]], which means "ring".
28th Nov '15 4:28:14 PM eroock
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Good For Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece, I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.

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Good For for Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece, I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.
14th Nov '15 5:47:41 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TheRockfordFiles'', Jim Rockford uses one of these to recover a stolen pearl necklace. He uses a fake jeweler to convince the thieves that the necklace they stole was a fake, then convinced them to break back in and switch it for one that actually was fake.
* Series/MissionImpossible does this often.

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* In ''TheRockfordFiles'', ''Series/TheRockfordFiles'', Jim Rockford uses one of these to recover a stolen pearl necklace. He uses a fake jeweler to convince the thieves that the necklace they stole was a fake, then convinced them to break back in and switch it for one that actually was fake.
* Series/MissionImpossible ''Series/MissionImpossible'' does this often.
11th May '15 8:55:31 PM eyebones
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Good For Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.

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Good For Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece masterpiece, I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.



What? No, man, nobody can counterfeit British money; it's too tough. I just want to avoid any embarrasing conversations with the IRS ...

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What? No, man, nobody can counterfeit British money; it's too tough. I just want to avoid any embarrasing embarrassing conversations with the IRS ...
9th Aug '14 6:33:16 AM Divra
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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "faínne", which means "ring".
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