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29th Mar '17 10:35:40 PM TheDocCC
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* The pigeon drop is a classic two-person con. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPsvda1XLug Here's one variant]]. The mark is given a chance to split a sudden windfall. They're asked for good faith money to keep them honest, but the con-man swaps the windfall with something worthless. The classic version is finding a wallet or envelope full of money which the conmen offer to share after checking with the cops or asking at some place if anyone lost it. They ask for good faith money and switch the wallet/envelope with one full of paper. They then leave the mark convinced he is holding the cash and make off with the good faith money.
4th Jan '17 4:32:45 PM moloch
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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "fáinne"[[labelnote:*]]fawn-ya[[/note]], which means "ring".

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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "fáinne"[[labelnote:*]]fawn-ya[[/note]], "fáinne"[[labelnote:*]]fawn-ya[[/labelnote]], which means "ring".
4th Jan '17 4:32:27 PM moloch
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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "faínne", which means "ring".

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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "faínne", "fáinne"[[labelnote:*]]fawn-ya[[/note]], which means "ring".
28th Nov '15 4:28:14 PM eroock
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Good For Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece, I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.

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Good For for Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece, I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.
14th Nov '15 5:47:41 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TheRockfordFiles'', Jim Rockford uses one of these to recover a stolen pearl necklace. He uses a fake jeweler to convince the thieves that the necklace they stole was a fake, then convinced them to break back in and switch it for one that actually was fake.
* Series/MissionImpossible does this often.

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* In ''TheRockfordFiles'', ''Series/TheRockfordFiles'', Jim Rockford uses one of these to recover a stolen pearl necklace. He uses a fake jeweler to convince the thieves that the necklace they stole was a fake, then convinced them to break back in and switch it for one that actually was fake.
* Series/MissionImpossible ''Series/MissionImpossible'' does this often.
11th May '15 8:55:31 PM eyebones
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Good For Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.

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Good For Bad is a ConMan's {{tale}} that involves arranging a swap of something genuine for something bogus. You give me one dollar of real money for my counterfeit fifty. Better yet, if you have an art masterpiece masterpiece, I can get you a good replica for your insurance fire.



What? No, man, nobody can counterfeit British money; it's too tough. I just want to avoid any embarrasing conversations with the IRS ...

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What? No, man, nobody can counterfeit British money; it's too tough. I just want to avoid any embarrasing embarrassing conversations with the IRS ...
9th Aug '14 6:33:16 AM Divra
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** This scam is thought to be the root of the word "phony" for "fake". The root comes from the Irish word "faínne", which means "ring".
19th Jun '14 6:05:27 PM MaxWest
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* Used as part of the "bait and switch" scheme. Bait-and-switch involves a business luring customers in notice of a good or service; upon arrival, the advertised good or service is not available but instead the customers get offered one that is more expensive and/or is of poorer quality.
25th May '14 6:13:15 PM KidDynamite
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** According to Frank Abagnale's book (which was the basis for the movie), this incident ultimately cost him big-time as the hooker gave the FBI a description of him, something they didn't have before then.
7th Mar '14 2:32:09 PM Totema
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Compare PigInAPoke, which uses a similar Tale, but sells the item unseen.

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Compare PigInAPoke, which uses a similar Tale, but sells the item unseen. QuickChange is a similar idea, but the amount of money is false, rather than the quality.
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