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26th Apr '16 7:22:38 PM keybounce
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** Actually, there is more to it. The first part of the test is to not be caught passing information around -- to be a good undercover spy.
6th Apr '16 3:45:07 PM supersaver87
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** During the show's 25th season, one round had a "Big Money" space that could award up to $25,000 if a player hit it at the right time and found a letter in the puzzle.

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** During the show's 25th season, one round had a "Big Money" space that could award up to $25,000 if a player hit it at the right time and found a letter in the puzzle. At least one contestant won the game because of it.


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* The 1985 clunker ''Series/TimeMachine'' used a 1-1-2 point system during its second format. Each of the three minigames was worth a prize, so there was still incentive to play perfectly.
3rd Apr '16 2:30:07 PM RisefromYourGrave
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* The ''Championship Gaming Series'' ''truly'' screwed the pooch on this one- the contest's five disciplines were hugely [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Championship_Gaming_Series#Scoring_system idiosyncratically scored]]- aceing both ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive'' rounds five-nil, (for a total of ten points) taking the top two spots in ForzaMotorsport (taking six points and conceding one), and winning {{FIFA}} by ''three'' clear goals ([[{{Pun}} Net]] profit of three points) will result in a tie if the opponent team wins all the ''VideoGame/CounterStrike'' rounds (18 points). Of course, ''which'' discipline counts as the golden snitch is up in the air, as the rounds were never played (or at least, broadcast) in any specific order.

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* The ''Championship Gaming Series'' ''truly'' screwed the pooch on this one- the contest's five disciplines were hugely [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Championship_Gaming_Series#Scoring_system idiosyncratically scored]]- aceing both ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive'' rounds five-nil, (for a total of ten points) taking the top two spots in ForzaMotorsport ''[[VideoGame/{{Forza}} Forza Motorsport]]'' (taking six points and conceding one), and winning {{FIFA}} by ''three'' clear goals ([[{{Pun}} Net]] profit of three points) will result in a tie if the opponent team wins all the ''VideoGame/CounterStrike'' rounds (18 points). Of course, ''which'' discipline counts as the golden snitch is up in the air, as the rounds were never played (or at least, broadcast) in any specific order.
25th Feb '16 6:46:16 AM Sammettik
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* Competitions between the [[RuleOfThree three presenters]] on the British motoring show Series/TopGear often include one for the final event making the other events sometimes completely unnecessary. For example in the original Cheap Car Challenge the final event was to add a point for every pound under the limit the presenter spent. This allowed Clarkson to come from behind and win because he spent a grand total of 1 pound for his vehicle.

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* Competitions between the [[RuleOfThree three presenters]] on the British motoring show Series/TopGear ''Series/TopGear'' often include one for the final event making the other events sometimes completely unnecessary. For example in the original Cheap Car Challenge the final event was to add a point for every pound under the limit the presenter spent. This allowed Clarkson to come from behind and win because he spent a grand total of 1 pound for his vehicle.



* In some episodes of ''Series/TopGearUS'', the final challenge is "winner takes all". This means that whoever won the final challenge would be declared the overall winner of that episode, regardless of his performance in previous challenges.



* In some episodes of ''Series/TopGearUS'', the final challenge is "winner takes all". This means that whoever won the final challenge would be declared the overall winner of that episode, regardless of his performance in previous challenges.
25th Feb '16 6:43:48 AM Sammettik
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** The general flaw is that instead of awarding points for rank in any one event, they are awarded based on actual performance which is often unbounded and never weighted. The problem can work in reverse when points are subtracted for poor performance and a breakdown or other misfortune can result in thousands of points being lost.
*** Usually by James May.

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** The general flaw is that instead of awarding points for rank in any one event, they are awarded based on actual performance which is often unbounded and never weighted. The problem can work in reverse when points are subtracted for poor performance and a breakdown or other misfortune can result in thousands of points being lost.
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lost. Usually by James May.



* In VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefront: Elite Squadron, there is a skirmish mode. It consists of three rounds. The first and the second have no effect on the final victory. They just provide offensive and defensive bonuses in round 3, which decides whether or not the game is won.

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* In VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefront: ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefront: Elite Squadron, Squadron'', there is a skirmish mode. It consists of three rounds. The first and the second have no effect on the final victory. They just provide offensive and defensive bonuses in round 3, which decides whether or not the game is won.



* The Jack Attack segments in the VideoGame/YouDontKnowJack games are well-known for having lots of questions with huge payouts. Anyone who dominates in this segment is all but guaranteed to win unless the cash difference between the players is astronomical.

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* The Jack Attack segments in the VideoGame/YouDontKnowJack ''VideoGame/YouDontKnowJack'' games are well-known for having lots of questions with huge payouts. Anyone who dominates in this segment is all but guaranteed to win unless the cash difference between the players is astronomical.



* The Mario Kart example in the Video Games section above is not as unrealistic as it looks. In many forms of racing, slipstreaming is a huge factor, to the extent that, in the most extreme circumstances, only the final section of the race can matter

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* The Mario Kart example in the Video Games section above is not as unrealistic as it looks. In many forms of racing, slipstreaming is a huge factor, to the extent that, in the most extreme circumstances, only the final section of the race can matter
8th Feb '16 2:09:01 PM R1ck
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** They also have none-announced "non-elimination" rounds, which, since the idea is to be the last team standing, makes the entire leg pointless. The first team may, or may not, win a prize but all teams continue to the next leg and (as the first poster said) the order in which they arrived really does nothing to alter the odds. They also have "Fast Forwards" which if completed first allow one team to skip over all other tasks.

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** They also have none-announced "non-elimination" rounds, which, since the idea is to be the last team standing, makes the entire leg pointless. The first team may, or may not, win a prize but all teams continue to the next leg and (as the first poster said) the order in which they arrived really does nothing to alter the odds. They also have "Fast Forwards" which if completed first allow one team to skip over all other tasks. It has however happened a handful of times that the fast forward has been completed, but still didn't win the team first place, typically due to long commute times or getting lost.
8th Feb '16 11:47:34 AM R1ck
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* DoubleSubversion in the climax of ''Film/DodgeBallATrueUnderdogStory''. [[spoiler: After winning the Dodgeball championship, Peter reveals that he had sold Average Joe's to Globo Gym before the game started for a BriefcaseFullOfMoney - making the game results (which would have given him enough prize money to keep Average Joe's open) pointless. However, Peter ''then'' reveals that he took the $100,000 in the briefcase and bet it all on his team to win. Since the Vegas odds were 50-1 against his team, he won ''five million dollars''. Peter then notes that since Globo Gym is a publicly traded company, he has enough money to buy all of Globo's shares, which means he now owns ''both'' gyms.]]
** [[spoiler: ArtisticLicenseLaw: just because one can afford to buy a controlling interest in a company doesn't mean one can do so. The holders of those shares need to agree to sell them, and they may not. And even if they do, the SEC needs to overview all major corporate holding changes, which can often stop such takeovers in their tracks by itself (of course, whether they would or not for a couple gyms is questionable, but the fact that Globo is publicly traded implies a degree of size to the company). Of course, Goodman was a giant tool and it's believable that the directors of his company would co-operate, but Goodmans shares (which one would assume would represent a significant involvement, if not the controlling interest itself, which makes sense given his character) would still be owned by him. On the other hand, the ins and outs of corporate ownership would be out of place in a movie with the tag line 'Grab Life by the Balls'.]]
5th Feb '16 10:00:38 PM nombretomado
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* In the 1916 [[AustralianRulesFootball VFL]] season, due to UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, there were only four teams competing. Consequently, every team made the Final Four, including Fitzroy, who had won only two games in the regular season. Fitzroy then managed to win all of its games in the finals and take the premiership.

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* In the 1916 [[AustralianRulesFootball [[UsefulNotes/AustralianRulesFootball VFL]] season, due to UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, there were only four teams competing. Consequently, every team made the Final Four, including Fitzroy, who had won only two games in the regular season. Fitzroy then managed to win all of its games in the finals and take the premiership.
2nd Feb '16 8:26:17 AM squadallahthistle
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** Though the difficulty to get them was amped up starting in Season 33- now they don't appear on the wheel until round 2.
29th Jan '16 12:28:36 PM KingZeal
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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' we have the chunnin written exam where the final question simply comes down to "If you try to answer the final question and fail then you will never advance as a ninja for the rest of your life." and the trick is that just by accepting the question you pass the whole test by showing you're willing to take life threatening risks to succeed. The golden snitch nonsense comes in however in that by passing that last question, the entire rest of the test is ignored completely to the point that Naruto passes despite having a blank sheet and -2 points for being caught cheating (so if the 10th question counted, his final score was -1). So the only thing the first 9 questions matter for at all is to catch people so bad at cheating they do it poorly 5 times but anything short of that (get caught 4 times? answer everything wrong? don't back up your team? don't fill out any answers period? don't realize you're supposed to cheat in the first place?) and you can still pass with flying colors. It does say something when the golden snitch is so powerful you could succeed by taking a nap the moment you sat down (and frankly you'd have a higher score than what Naruto passed with).

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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' we have the chunnin written exam where the final question simply comes down to "If you try to answer the final question and fail then you will never advance as a ninja for the rest of your life." and the trick is that just by accepting the question you pass the whole test by showing you're willing to take life threatening risks to succeed. The golden snitch nonsense comes in however in that by passing that last question, the entire rest of the test is ignored completely to the point that Naruto passes despite having a blank sheet and -2 points for being caught cheating (so if the 10th question counted, his final score was -1). So the only thing the first 9 questions matter for at all is to catch people so bad at cheating they do it poorly 5 times but anything short of that (get caught 4 times? answer everything wrong? don't back up your team? don't fill out any answers period? don't realize you're supposed to cheat in the first place?) and you can still pass with flying colors. It does say something when the golden snitch is so powerful you could succeed by taking a nap the moment you sat down (and frankly you'd have a higher score than what Naruto passed with).
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