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24th Aug '16 11:40:35 AM Daethalion
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* Midway through ''Literature/TheBelgariad'', [[EvilSorcerer C'tuchik]] crosses the threshold - when it becomes clear that Belgarath and his posse are going to successfully reclaim the [[{{Macguffin}} Orb of Aldur]] - by breaking the first law of sorcery and trying to remove it from existence entirely. Unfortunately, nothing can be unmade, so the spell backlashes and gives him a CruelAndUnusualDeath that also nearly levels the entire city they were standing in at the time.
16th Aug '16 4:17:14 PM kclantern1984
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* The ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'' episode "[[Recap/DuckTalesS1E57TheUncrashableHindentanic The Uncrashable Hindentanic]]" revolves around [[ComicBook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck Uncle Scrooge]] and his new airship. His sidekick and perennial crasher of aircraft Launchpad desperately wants to fly it but is told that Scrooge actually wants to keep the airship in one piece. When the events of the episode conspire against this Scrooge eventually relents and tells Launchpad to take the wheel. They crash, but Launchpad accidentally takes out the opposition while saving the passengers.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'' episode "[[Recap/DuckTalesS1E57TheUncrashableHindentanic The Uncrashable Hindentanic]]" revolves around [[ComicBook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck Uncle Scrooge]] and his new airship. His sidekick and [[CaptainCrash perennial crasher of aircraft aircraft]] Launchpad desperately wants to fly it but is told that Scrooge actually wants to keep the airship in one piece. When the events of the episode conspire against this Scrooge eventually relents and tells Launchpad to take the wheel. They crash, but Launchpad accidentally takes out the opposition while saving the passengers.
10th Aug '16 10:41:43 PM Kazmahu
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* When the titular ''VideoGame/TrillionGodOfDestruction'' manages to effortlessly kill him in the prologue, Zeabolos promptly considers this threshold crossed. He sells his own soul, lets his minions sacrifice themselves to manufacture troops, and puts his family members and childhood friends through hellish training regimens; ''anything'' to kill Trillion and make sure there's still a Netherworld for the survivors to live in.
6th Aug '16 1:00:54 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Ordering the SPARTAN II project was considered this by ONI Command. The Insurrectionists on the colony worlds commonly used coordinated terrorist tactics in order to forcibly declare independence from the UEG. The UNSC Navy and Marines weren't able to keep up, even though they had far greater numbers, due to the collateral damage that would have been invoked. Kidnapping and manipulating 6 year-old children into sociopathic walking tanks was considered preferable to the potential loss of innocent life that a drawn-out civil war would have resulted in.

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** Ordering the SPARTAN II project creation of the SPARTAN-II program was considered this by ONI Command. The Insurrectionists on the colony worlds commonly used coordinated terrorist tactics in order to forcibly declare independence from the UEG. The UNSC Navy and Marines weren't able to keep up, even though they had far greater numbers, due to the collateral damage that a large scale military intervention would have been invoked. Kidnapping caused. Thus, kidnapping and manipulating 6 year-old children into sociopathic walking tanks was considered preferable to the potential loss of innocent life that a drawn-out civil war would have resulted in.in.
** The SPARTAN-III program was also this for ONI. The Covenant war was going so poorly for humanity that the idea to recruit traumatized war orphans and turn them into suicide super soldiers by their early teens was actually approved, with over 900 Spartan-[=IIIs=] trained and deployed over the course of the war.



*** When [[spoiler: a Flood-infested ship crashes in New Mombasa]] during ''Halo 3'', Commander Keyes proposes to overload a slipstream engine inside the city and wiping out everything in the area. Though usually rather timid in his decisions, Lord Hood only replies with ''"Do it!"''
*** Later, when [[spoiler:the Elites, who had shown up in a BigDamnHeroes moment, torch most of Africa to get rid of the infestation]], Lord Hood protests this action. The Elite Shipmaster responds that he fully intended to burn all of Earth just to make sure that ''every last Flood spore was absolutely dead'', and only the Arbiter's arguing against it stopped him from doing so.
*** The Forerunners built the Halo Array in the first place to keep themselves in power as the supreme species in the galaxy. When the Flood came to the galaxy and overran every defense they could muster, the Forerunners activated the Array, frying the nervous system of every creature in the galaxy capable of hosting Flood spores. In a way, they did defeat a threat to their power.

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*** When [[spoiler: a Flood-infested ship crashes in New Mombasa]] during ''Halo 3'', ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'', Commander Keyes proposes to overload a slipstream engine inside the city and wiping out everything in the area. Though usually rather timid cautious in his decisions, Lord Hood only replies with ''"Do it!"''
*** Later, when [[spoiler:the Elites, who had shown up in a BigDamnHeroes moment, torch most a good chunk of Africa to get rid of the infestation]], Lord Hood protests this action. The Elite Shipmaster responds that he fully intended to burn all of Earth just to make sure that ''every last Flood spore was absolutely dead'', and only the Arbiter's Arbiter arguing against it stopped him from doing so.
*** The Forerunners built the original version of the Halo Array in the first place to keep themselves in power as the supreme species in the galaxy. When the Flood came to the galaxy and overran every defense they could muster, the Forerunners activated the Array, frying the nervous system of every creature in the galaxy capable of hosting Flood spores. In a way, they did defeat a threat to their power.
3rd Aug '16 9:29:55 AM VVK
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* ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod'': None of the others taking the tests on the 20th floor with Jyu Viole Grace wanted to deal with him. To them, he was a villain, the most dangerous enemy. [[spoiler: But when Lurker brutally murders Wangnan's friend Nia, Wangnan goes and practically begs him on his hands and knees to stop Lurker.]]

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* ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod'': None of the others taking the tests on the 20th floor with Jyu Viole Grace wanted to deal with him. To them, he was a villain, the most dangerous enemy. [[spoiler: But when Lurker brutally murders Wangnan's friend Nia, Wangnan goes and practically begs him Viole on his hands and knees to stop Lurker.]]
3rd Aug '16 9:28:19 AM VVK
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* ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod'': No-one wanted to deal with Viole. To them, he was a villain, the most dangerous enemy. [[spoiler: But when Lurker brutally murders his friend Nia, Wangnan goes and practically begs him on his hands and knees to stop Lurker.]]

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* ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod'': No-one None of the others taking the tests on the 20th floor with Jyu Viole Grace wanted to deal with Viole.him. To them, he was a villain, the most dangerous enemy. [[spoiler: But when Lurker brutally murders his Wangnan's friend Nia, Wangnan goes and practically begs him on his hands and knees to stop Lurker.]]
24th Jul '16 2:07:30 AM IlGreven
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*** Slightly averted in a 2003 NFL game between the New Orleans Saints and Jacksonville Jaguars. Down 7 with a few seconds remaining, the Saints completed a lateral play to score a touchdown as time expired. The Saints just needed an extra point to win the game (which, prior to 2015, was extremely easy and had about a 99.5% success rate), but kicker John Carney missed and the Jaguars won the game by a single point.

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*** Slightly averted in a 2003 NFL game between the New Orleans Saints and Jacksonville Jaguars. Down 7 with a few seconds remaining, the Saints completed a lateral play to score a touchdown as time expired. The Saints just needed an extra point to win tie the game and send it to overtime (which, prior to 2015, was extremely easy and had about a 99.5% success rate), but kicker John Carney missed and the Jaguars won the game by a single point.


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** A similar strategy is the "Hack-a-Shaq" strategy, wherein a team continually fouls a player who's really bad at making free throws (the strategy is named after Shaquille O'Neal, who was infamously bad at free throws) in the hopes that their opponents score less from the stripe than in regular play. There have been calls for the rule that allows this strategy to be changed, however.
18th Jul '16 3:19:13 AM Nintendoman01
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** Piccolo despises the idea of [[FusionDance merging with Kami]] to the point that he says he wouldn't do it, even to fight Frieza. Once the androids prove too much for him, he swallows his pride and goes to Kami's Lookout to do just that.
7th Jul '16 9:00:32 PM Discar
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There is wisdom in facing a threat with a proportionate response. Sure, ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill, but it'll likely cause a lot of [[DestructiveSaviour avoidable collateral damage]], ''and'' it'll guarantee that tomorrow [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil the next threat is stronger]]. But every so often, the time comes when [[OutsideContextVillain the threat is so great]], the situation has [[GoneHorriblyWrong gone so horribly wrong]], that there is ''no'' proportionate response. When circumstances are so dire as to justify the use of any and every thing that might solve it, no matter how reckless, nonsensical, or horrific, regardless of cost. When even the summoning of Franchise/{{Godzilla}}, king of the monsters and patron saint of collateral damage, could not possibly make the crisis any worse. Every so often, the situation crosses the Godzilla Threshold.

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There is wisdom in facing a threat with a proportionate response. Sure, ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill, but it'll likely cause a lot of [[DestructiveSaviour avoidable collateral damage]], ''and'' it'll guarantee that tomorrow [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil the next threat is stronger]]. But every so often, the time comes when [[OutsideContextVillain [[OutsideContextProblem the threat is so great]], the situation has [[GoneHorriblyWrong gone so horribly wrong]], that there is ''no'' proportionate response. When circumstances are so dire as to justify the use of any and every thing that might solve it, no matter how reckless, nonsensical, or horrific, regardless of cost. When even the summoning of Franchise/{{Godzilla}}, king of the monsters and patron saint of collateral damage, could not possibly make the crisis any worse. Every so often, the situation crosses the Godzilla Threshold.
7th Jul '16 3:18:26 PM FordPrefect
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* In Basketball, fouling an opponent in the act of shooting (or not in the act of shooting, in certain situations) gives the opponent free throws, which are generally much more efficient than regular offense (most players make around 75% of free throws, meaning two free throws will yield 1.5 points on average, while regular offense yields about one point per possession). However, doing this also stops the clock and (most likely) gives the ball back to the other team. In late game situations, the team that is behind will intentionally foul the opponent and hope that they will miss their free throws in order to stop the clock and get the ball back. This rarely works, but it's the last option for a team that is losing to try and prolong the game to tie or even win.

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* In Basketball, fouling an opponent in the act of shooting (or not in the act of shooting, in certain other situations) gives the opponent free throws, which are generally much more efficient than regular offense (most players make around 75% of free throws, meaning two free throws will yield 1.5 points on average, while regular offense yields about one point per possession). However, doing this also stops the clock and (most likely) gives the ball back to the other team. In late game situations, the team that is behind will intentionally foul the opponent and hope that they will miss their free throws in order to stop the clock and get the ball back. This rarely works, but it's the last option for a team that is losing to try and prolong the game to tie or even win.
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