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15th May '16 1:42:12 PM IamTheCaligula
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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' works like this (and ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve in general). This is most relevant in the 10th game, ''Mountain of Faith'', where goddess Kanako Yasaka, faced with fading away due to modern Japan's waning faith in the divine, decides to relocate the Moriya Shrine to [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]], where she ought to have an easier time finding worshipers. Unfortunately this muscles in on the local religious "authority," protagonist [[{{Miko}} Reimu Hakurei]], and BulletHell ensues. After this ends, Kanako stays around and attempts to gain faith other ways, treating the whole thing like a business venture.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' works like this (and ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve in general). This is most relevant in the 10th game, ''Mountain of Faith'', where goddess Kanako Yasaka, faced with fading away due to modern Japan's waning faith in the divine, decides to relocate the Moriya Shrine to [[FantasyKitchenSink [[FantasticNatureReserve Gensokyo]], where she ought to have an easier time finding worshipers. Unfortunately this muscles in on the local religious "authority," protagonist [[{{Miko}} Reimu Hakurei]], and BulletHell ensues. After this ends, Kanako stays around and attempts to gain faith other ways, treating the whole thing like a business venture.
26th Apr '16 4:09:35 PM Mullon
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* In ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Ares reveals that [[spoiler:Superman's]] One World order had eliminated most conflict, leaving the God of War far weaker. In the game's tie-in comic, Wonder Woman suggests Ares become the god of something else in order to regain his powers, then hilariously calls him, "Ares, God of Ponies". In the game proper, Ares decides to help the heroes, explaining that their struggle against the Regime is empowering him in the short-term, but if the bad guys win, conflict will drop completely.

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* In ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Ares reveals that [[spoiler:Superman's]] Superman's One World order had eliminated most conflict, leaving the God of War far weaker. In the game's tie-in comic, Wonder Woman suggests Ares become the god of something else in order to regain his powers, then hilariously calls him, "Ares, God of Ponies". In the game proper, Ares decides to help the heroes, explaining that their struggle against the Regime is empowering him in the short-term, but if the bad guys win, conflict will drop completely.
17th Apr '16 7:19:39 AM VeganZombie
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** "The Lady", also known as; "She-who-shall-not-be-named... The 'Million-to-One' Chance - and all of the other chances as well... The One who will desert you when you need Her the most - and sometimes She might not..." is generally though of as the most powerful goddess in the whole Discworld Pantheon. She has few if any true worshipers, but -everyone- directs a prayer her way whhen they are in a really tight spot.
9th Apr '16 9:33:30 AM NPCZoey
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* In ''LightNovel/GodComplex''its established that mankind is extinct early on, and many of the elder gods are scrambling to find alternative power sources. Gods proportionate power and rank amongst one another was determined by their real world worship counterparts, with Christianity having taken power once intended for other pantheons.

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* In ''LightNovel/GodComplex''its ''LightNovel/GodComplex'' its established that mankind is extinct early on, and many of the elder gods are scrambling to find alternative power sources. Gods proportionate power and rank amongst one another was determined by their real world worship counterparts, with Christianity having taken power once intended for other pantheons.
9th Apr '16 9:32:55 AM NPCZoey
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* In ''LightNovel/GodComplex''its established that mankind is extinct early on, and many of the elder gods are scrambling to find alternative power sources. Gods proportionate power and rank amongst one another was determined by their real world worship counterparts, with Christianity having taken power once intended for other pantheons.
29th Mar '16 2:25:51 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* The second episode of ''Manga/NatsumeYuujinchou'' has a very poignant example of this trope (that also doubles as a TearJerker) when a {{Youkai}} that took up residence in a roadside shrine begins to lose his power (and his tether to the living world) as the people who once prayed to him all begin to die of old age. Natsume himself offers to pray to him but the Youkai refuses saying: "It's impossible, because you are my friend."

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* The second episode of ''Manga/NatsumeYuujinchou'' ''Manga/NatsumesBookOfFriends'' has a very poignant example of this trope (that also doubles as a TearJerker) when a {{Youkai}} that took up residence in a roadside shrine begins to lose his power (and his tether to the living world) as the people who once prayed to him all begin to die of old age. Natsume himself offers to pray to him but the Youkai refuses saying: "It's impossible, because you are my friend."
21st Mar '16 8:16:10 PM Doug86
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* In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', the Heroic Spirits (not outright gods but at least a few levels of spiritualism above humans) mostly exist due to - and are partially sustained and empowered by - the belief they've inspired in humanity. Their strength appears based partly on their actual power and partly on pure PopularityPower. As Rin explains in the game prologue, even fictional characters count, what matters is the image created by the minds of the people. The game features two major explorations of this - [[spoiler:Assassin is a nameless samurai called forth to play the role of Sasaki Kojiro, an opponent of MiyamotoMusashi]], who is entirely fictional in the {{Nasuverse}}. In other words, the pure belief that humanity has in the existence of said hero is so strong that it allows him to exist, [[spoiler:albeit through summoning a nameless spirit to take on his name and fill his role]]. On the flip side, [[spoiler:Archer is a hero from the future]]; nobody knows of his existence and he therefore owes neither his existence nor any of his powers from belief, persisting as a Heroic Spirit only through the connection all Heroic Spirits have with the earth itself. [[TheBerserker Heracles]], naturally, gets top billing either way you look at it. [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]] (the very first Heroic Spirit) and KingArthur also rank highly, as does [[AlexanderTheGreat Iskander]] in ''LightNovel/FateZero''. To clarify a bit, if a person gains enough acknowledgement in the minds of humanity at large - be it as a Hero, Villian, or Anti-Hero - , real or imagined, they go to the afterlife known as the Throne of Heroes, rather than what happens to normal souls. Once there, they become pseudo-deific spirits of enormous power known as Heroic Spirits. As the Throne exists outside of time, all Heroic Spirits, past, present, and future, dwell there, even after being completely forgotten. That said, a Heroic Spirit's power(as well as their specific Noble Phantasms. Such as, King Arthur's Excalibur is the most famous part of his legend. So naturally it is more powerful than another, such as Rhongomyniad, another weapon of his, yet a far more obscure one) increases the most people know about it. So while being forgotten won't kill or destroy them, being remembered makes them stronger. It even happens on a local level. Hercules is a famous Heroic Spirit worldwide, so when he is summoned as Berserker in Japan, he retains a far greater portion of his powers than Cú Chulainn - Lancer - who would normally be capable of going head-to-head with him, but is so obscure in Japan that he holds only a fraction of his normal strength. This has lead to him being dubbed by fans as "the Most Useless Servant in the War". For a bit of context, when Vlad the Impaler is summoned in Fate/Apocrypha, he is at about 60% power outside of Transylvania, and he's famous worldwide for inspiring the Legend of Dracula. Cú Chulainn, on the other hand, is so obscenely obscure outside of Northern Europe that its unlikely that people from anywhere else had even heard of him before watching this.

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* In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', the Heroic Spirits (not outright gods but at least a few levels of spiritualism above humans) mostly exist due to - and are partially sustained and empowered by - the belief they've inspired in humanity. Their strength appears based partly on their actual power and partly on pure PopularityPower. As Rin explains in the game prologue, even fictional characters count, what matters is the image created by the minds of the people. The game features two major explorations of this - [[spoiler:Assassin is a nameless samurai called forth to play the role of Sasaki Kojiro, an opponent of MiyamotoMusashi]], who is entirely fictional in the {{Nasuverse}}. In other words, the pure belief that humanity has in the existence of said hero is so strong that it allows him to exist, [[spoiler:albeit through summoning a nameless spirit to take on his name and fill his role]]. On the flip side, [[spoiler:Archer is a hero from the future]]; nobody knows of his existence and he therefore owes neither his existence nor any of his powers from belief, persisting as a Heroic Spirit only through the connection all Heroic Spirits have with the earth itself. [[TheBerserker Heracles]], naturally, gets top billing either way you look at it. [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]] (the very first Heroic Spirit) and KingArthur also rank highly, as does [[AlexanderTheGreat [[UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat Iskander]] in ''LightNovel/FateZero''. To clarify a bit, if a person gains enough acknowledgement in the minds of humanity at large - be it as a Hero, Villian, or Anti-Hero - , real or imagined, they go to the afterlife known as the Throne of Heroes, rather than what happens to normal souls. Once there, they become pseudo-deific spirits of enormous power known as Heroic Spirits. As the Throne exists outside of time, all Heroic Spirits, past, present, and future, dwell there, even after being completely forgotten. That said, a Heroic Spirit's power(as well as their specific Noble Phantasms. Such as, King Arthur's Excalibur is the most famous part of his legend. So naturally it is more powerful than another, such as Rhongomyniad, another weapon of his, yet a far more obscure one) increases the most people know about it. So while being forgotten won't kill or destroy them, being remembered makes them stronger. It even happens on a local level. Hercules is a famous Heroic Spirit worldwide, so when he is summoned as Berserker in Japan, he retains a far greater portion of his powers than Cú Chulainn - Lancer - who would normally be capable of going head-to-head with him, but is so obscure in Japan that he holds only a fraction of his normal strength. This has lead to him being dubbed by fans as "the Most Useless Servant in the War". For a bit of context, when Vlad the Impaler is summoned in Fate/Apocrypha, he is at about 60% power outside of Transylvania, and he's famous worldwide for inspiring the Legend of Dracula. Cú Chulainn, on the other hand, is so obscenely obscure outside of Northern Europe that its unlikely that people from anywhere else had even heard of him before watching this.
12th Mar '16 5:24:14 PM BelaclyaDana
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* Raymond E. Feist's Midkemian books have this. There are a number of classifications of gods. There are beings that are "more powerful than gods, yet less," and they are the forces of nature. They do not have a consciousness, but they can be influenced but cannot be controlled. There are the controller gods which are the primal stuff of the world. They could care less about the people or what they are doing. Prayers to them are irrelevant. Next, there are the lesser gods. These are the ones that people pray to. They are also forces of nature but are identified and idealized by the people and interact with them. The lesser gods are the ones that fit this trope. And if enough worshipers go away, they would lose their power and potentially die. However, they may also return if at some time in the future enough worshipers begin to exist again. This is because they are still at their heart the personification of some aspect in nature or concept such as justice, the sea, or war. The god of magic, Sarig is one such dead god.

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* Raymond E. Feist's Midkemian books have this. There are a number of classifications of gods. There are beings that are "more powerful than gods, yet less," and they are the forces of nature. They do not have a consciousness, but they can be influenced but cannot be controlled. There are the controller gods which are the primal stuff of the world. They could care less about the people or what they are doing. Prayers to them are irrelevant. Next, there are the lesser gods. These are the ones that people pray to. They are also forces of nature but are identified and idealized by the people and interact with them. The lesser gods are the ones that fit this trope. And if enough worshipers go away, they would lose their power and potentially die. However, they may also return if at some time in the future enough worshipers begin to exist again. This is because they are still at their heart the personification of some aspect in nature or concept such as justice, the sea, or war. The god of magic, Sarig is one such dead god. When a god "dies" the natural force doesn't die with it, but rather that aspect is taken up by another god, at least until such time as the old god returns. An example of this is the God Killian who is the goddess of nature, but also reigns over the oceans and seas, having taken over for her dead brother Eortis, the God of the Sea.
12th Mar '16 5:18:56 PM BelaclyaDana
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* Raymond E. Feist's Midkemian books have this. There are a number of classifications of gods. There are beings that are "more powerful than gods, yet less," and they are the forces of nature. They do not have a consciousness, but they can be influenced but cannot be controlled. There are the controller gods which are the primal stuff of the world. They could care less about the people or what they are doing. Prayers to them are irrelevant. Next, there are the lesser gods. These are the ones that people pray to. They are also forces of nature but are identified and idealized by the people and interact with them. The lesser gods are the ones that fit this trope. And if enough worshipers go away, they would lose their power and potentially die. However, they may also return if at some time in the future enough worshipers begin to exist again. This is because they are still at their heart the personification of some aspect in nature or concept such as justice, the sea, or war. The god of magic, Sarig is one such dead god.
6th Mar '16 7:29:38 PM Eddy1215
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** In the sequel ''Wrath of the Titans'', prayers have dwindled so much that the gods have all lost their immortality and many have died before the movie even started. They still have most of their powers, but they are fading. Thus, the [[SealedEvilInACan Titans]] are breaking free. On a FringeLogic note, why are the Titans still around? The gods fuel their immortality with worship, what do the Titans use? And before there were humans to empower them, the gods took down the Titans, didn't they?

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** In the sequel ''Wrath of the Titans'', prayers have dwindled so much that the gods have all lost their immortality and many have died before the movie even started. They still have most of their powers, but they are fading. Thus, the [[SealedEvilInACan Titans]] are breaking free. On a FringeLogic FridgeLogic note, why are the Titans still around? The gods fuel their immortality with worship, what do the Titans use? And before there were humans to empower them, the gods took down the Titans, didn't they?
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