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13th Jul '17 9:48:22 PM rjd1922
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* With the Human Torch [[ExiledFromContinuity caught up in a separate movie deal]], Creator/StanLee proposed that a RobotBuddy should replace him in the ''WesternAnimation/TheFantasticFour1978'' animated series. Though Dave Cockrum was originally commissioned to design it, the final design for H.E.R.B.I.E. came from Creator/JackKirby himself, the one who designed the original ComicBook/FantasticFour a decade prior. This didn't stop the poor robot from becoming the possible TropeCodifier for ReplacementScrappy.
25th Jun '17 7:52:46 PM drillizer
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* The ''Konjiki no Gash!!'' (''Manga/ZatchBell'') manga began with Kiyomaro (Kiyo) discovering Gash (Zatch)'s powers; they didn't meet a "mamo'''n'''o" ("mamo'''d'''o") team until the next chapter. The anime (''Konjiki no Gash Bell!!''[[note]]Both the English anime and manga (translated in that order) use the "Zatch Bell" name.[[/note]]) stuffed what many fans believed to be a non-canonical mamono / mamodo team in the first episode, Hyde and Eido. This was reinforced by the plot point that everyone's spellbooks would tell its owners how many mamono / mamodo were left in the battle, something not shown in the anime. However, [[spoiler:at the end of the manga when all the defeated mamono / mamodo show up to lend their powers to Gash / Zatch, Hyde is among the mamono / mamodo that appear. Apparently in the manga he was defeated by someone else offscreen.]]

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* The ''Konjiki no Gash!!'' (''Manga/ZatchBell'') manga began with Kiyomaro (Kiyo) discovering Gash (Zatch)'s powers; they didn't meet a "mamo'''n'''o" ("mamo'''d'''o") team until the next chapter. The anime (''Konjiki no Gash Bell!!''[[note]]Both the English anime and manga (translated in that order) use the "Zatch Bell" name.[[/note]]) stuffed what many fans believed to be a non-canonical mamono / mamodo team in the first episode, Hyde and Eido. This was reinforced by the plot point that everyone's spellbooks would tell its owners how many mamono / mamodo were left in the battle, something not shown in the anime. However, [[spoiler:at the end of the manga when all the defeated mamono / mamodo show up to lend their powers to Gash / Zatch, Hyde is among the mamono / mamodo that appear. Apparently in the manga he was defeated by someone else offscreen.offscreen, and WordofGod is that despite a cameo during Megumi's concert early in the series, the animation studio and Makoto Raiku himself forgot about him all the way until the Faudo arc was going on, meaning there was nowhere else to use the team again.]]
12th Jun '17 6:40:08 AM tropower
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* Hiro Mashima is responsible for designing the characters and story planning of ''Manga/FairyTail'''s {{filler}} and film. He even acknowledges the "Key of the Starry Heavens" {{filler}} arc as canon in the manga.

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* Hiro Mashima Mashima[[note]]Who is known to [[TrollingCreator troll]] his readers (and by extension, the anime viewers).[[/note]] is responsible for designing the characters and story planning of ''Manga/FairyTail'''s {{filler}} and film. He even acknowledges the "Key of the Starry Heavens" {{filler}} arc as canon in the manga.[[note]]Again, he has been known to troll his readers (and the anime viewers). As a result, it can't really be determined whether or not this arc truly is canon, [[WildMassGuessing which may have been the intent from the start]].[[/note]].
12th Jun '17 6:30:43 AM tropower
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* The ''Manga/ZatchBell'' manga began with Kiyo discovering Zatch's powers; they didn't meet a "mamodo" team until the next chapter. The anime stuffed what many fans believed to be a non-canonical mamodo team in the first episode, Hyde and Eido. This was reinforced by the plot point that everyone's spellbooks would tell its owners how many mamodo were left in the battle, something not shown in the anime. However, [[spoiler:at the end of the manga when all the defeated mamodo show up to lend their powers to Zatch, Hyde is among the mamodo that appear. Apparently in the manga he was defeated by someone else offscreen.]]

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* The ''Manga/ZatchBell'' ''Konjiki no Gash!!'' (''Manga/ZatchBell'') manga began with Kiyo Kiyomaro (Kiyo) discovering Zatch's Gash (Zatch)'s powers; they didn't meet a "mamodo" "mamo'''n'''o" ("mamo'''d'''o") team until the next chapter. The anime (''Konjiki no Gash Bell!!''[[note]]Both the English anime and manga (translated in that order) use the "Zatch Bell" name.[[/note]]) stuffed what many fans believed to be a non-canonical mamono / mamodo team in the first episode, Hyde and Eido. This was reinforced by the plot point that everyone's spellbooks would tell its owners how many mamono / mamodo were left in the battle, something not shown in the anime. However, [[spoiler:at the end of the manga when all the defeated mamono / mamodo show up to lend their powers to Gash / Zatch, Hyde is among the mamono / mamodo that appear. Apparently in the manga he was defeated by someone else offscreen.]]
22nd May '17 8:40:45 PM rjd1922
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* Akaii Ringo of the ''Manga/TokyoMewMew'' Playstation game was designed by Ikumi Mia to fulfill the RPG convention of a [[TheMedic healer]], which helped cement her in the fandom. Unfortunately, many non-players ended up using her as a PossessionSue.

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* Akaii Akai Ringo of the ''Manga/TokyoMewMew'' Playstation game was designed by Ikumi Mia to fulfill the RPG convention of a [[TheMedic healer]], which helped cement her in the fandom. Unfortunately, many non-players ended up using her as a PossessionSue.
22nd May '17 8:39:14 PM rjd1922
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* ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'' has Saki Enomoto and Rika Katayama, two "DLC love interests" announced as an April Fools' prank by the development team, with mock screenshots and personality profiles. Ultimately, they were never even mentioned in the final game, but they became [[EnsembleDarkHorse Ensemble Dark Horses]] anyway.

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* ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'' has Saki Enomoto and Rika Katayama, two "DLC love interests" announced as an April Fools' prank by the development team, with mock screenshots and personality profiles. Ultimately, they were never even mentioned in the final game, but they became [[EnsembleDarkHorse Ensemble Dark Horses]] {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s anyway.
1st May '17 10:11:43 PM nombretomado
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*** Another collary that the toylines seem to imply is that any given character from any given universe/contiuity has a counterpart out there in the others. This is exemplified by respective [[TransformersFilmSeries movieverse]] and [[TransformersGenerationOne G1]] versions of [[TransformersAnimated Lockdown and Lugnut]]

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*** Another collary corollary that the toylines seem to imply is that any given character from any given universe/contiuity has a counterpart out there in the others. This is exemplified by respective [[TransformersFilmSeries [[Film/TransformersFilmSeries movieverse]] and [[TransformersGenerationOne [[Franchise/TransformersGenerationOne G1]] versions of [[TransformersAnimated [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Lockdown and Lugnut]]
22nd Apr '17 8:35:56 PM rjd1922
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** The second anime, ''[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood]]'', was a faithful adaptation of the manga--more or less. Its first episode concerned Isaac [=McDougall=], the Freezing Alchemist--a character created specifically for that episode. He was designed by Arakawa.

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** The second anime, ''[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood]]'', was a faithful adaptation of the manga--more or less. Its first episode concerned Isaac [=McDougall=], [=McDougal=], the Freezing Alchemist--a character created specifically for that episode. He was designed by Arakawa.
15th Apr '17 12:40:34 AM EDP
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* Masami Kurumada, author of ''Manga/SaintSeiya'', designed the Ghost Saints that appeared in the first movie. Among them, Lyra Orpheus was included in the later chapters of the manga proper, if with a different coloration and a characterization closer to his mythological inspiration.
30th Mar '17 2:18:51 PM margdean56
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Occasionally you have a character designed by the creator, but for whatever reason, isn't included in the original work, but instead turns up in an adaptation of the original work. This can at times make the fan task of establishing canon difficult. The character might not fit in the old chronology, but the WordOfGod implies they have a sort of elevated 'legitimacy'. Mostly though, this is a case of the creator feeling they had a good idea after their work was released, and finding a new chance to use it. It may also be that the character was created for the original work and either were removed for whatever reason or there wasn't a good opportunity to introduce the character, with the adaptation is a chance for their place to be restored.

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Occasionally you have a character designed by the creator, but for whatever reason, isn't included in the original work, but instead turns up in an adaptation of the original work. This can at times make the fan task of establishing canon difficult. The character might not fit in the old chronology, but the WordOfGod implies they have a sort of elevated 'legitimacy'. Mostly though, this is a case of the creator feeling they had a good idea after their work was released, and finding a new chance to use it. It may also be that the character was created for the original work and either were was removed for whatever reason or there wasn't a good opportunity to introduce the character, with while the adaptation is a chance for their place to be restored.
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