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9th Dec '17 4:28:31 AM Smeagol17
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Occasionally you have a character designed by the creator, but for whatever reason, isn't included in the original work, but instead turns up in an adaptation of the original work. This can at times make the fan task of establishing canon difficult. The character might not fit in the old chronology, but the WordOfGod implies they have a sort of elevated 'legitimacy'. Mostly though, this is a case of the creator feeling they had a good idea after their work was released, and finding a new chance to use it. It may also be that the character was created for the original work and either was removed for whatever reason or there wasn't a good opportunity to introduce the character, while the adaptation is a chance for their place to be restored. Also, the creators of the adaptation may get the original creator to make the new character for their storyline (or at least it's design or outline) to increase it's ''legitemacy'' or just to make sure it is consistent with original characters.

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Occasionally you have a character designed by the creator, but for whatever reason, isn't included in the original work, but instead turns up in an adaptation of the original work. This can at times make the fan task of establishing canon difficult. The character might not fit in the old chronology, but the WordOfGod implies they have a sort of elevated 'legitimacy'. Mostly though, this is a case of the creator feeling they had a good idea after their work was released, and finding a new chance to use it. It may also be that the character was created for the original work and either was removed for whatever reason or there wasn't a good opportunity to introduce the character, while the adaptation is a chance for their place to be restored. Also, the creators of the adaptation may get the original creator to make the new character for their storyline (or at least it's design or outline) to increase it's ''legitemacy'' 'legitemacy' or just to make sure it is consistent with original characters.
9th Dec '17 4:28:17 AM Smeagol17
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Occasionally you have a character designed by the creator, but for whatever reason, isn't included in the original work, but instead turns up in an adaptation of the original work. This can at times make the fan task of establishing canon difficult. The character might not fit in the old chronology, but the WordOfGod implies they have a sort of elevated 'legitimacy'. Mostly though, this is a case of the creator feeling they had a good idea after their work was released, and finding a new chance to use it. It may also be that the character was created for the original work and either was removed for whatever reason or there wasn't a good opportunity to introduce the character, while the adaptation is a chance for their place to be restored.

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Occasionally you have a character designed by the creator, but for whatever reason, isn't included in the original work, but instead turns up in an adaptation of the original work. This can at times make the fan task of establishing canon difficult. The character might not fit in the old chronology, but the WordOfGod implies they have a sort of elevated 'legitimacy'. Mostly though, this is a case of the creator feeling they had a good idea after their work was released, and finding a new chance to use it. It may also be that the character was created for the original work and either was removed for whatever reason or there wasn't a good opportunity to introduce the character, while the adaptation is a chance for their place to be restored.
restored. Also, the creators of the adaptation may get the original creator to make the new character for their storyline (or at least it's design or outline) to increase it's ''legitemacy'' or just to make sure it is consistent with original characters.
3rd Nov '17 5:41:33 PM LinTaylor
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* Several ''Manga/DragonBall'' anime filler characters were designed by Akira Toriyama, most notably Grand Kai (Dai Kaio), the hipster overseer of the four Kais who appears in the "Otherworld Tournament" arc. Though not heavily involved in the anime-only sequel ''Dragon Ball GT'', he also did a few character designs for it, such as GT-era Pan and the RobotBuddy Gill. He also designed Towa, the female demon antagonist of ''Dragon Ball Online'' and the ''VideoGame/DragonballXenoverse'' games, as well as Android 21 from ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallFighterz Dragon Ball FighterZ]]''.

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* Several ''Manga/DragonBall'' anime filler Creator/AkiraToriyama has done this several times over for ''Manga/DragonBall'', designing characters were designed by Akira Toriyama, most notably for {{Filler}} like the Grand Kai (Dai Kaio), all the hipster overseer of movie villains (yes, even Broly), and even contributing some to the four Kais who appears in the "Otherworld Tournament" arc. Though not heavily involved in the anime-only sequel ''Dragon Ball GT'', he also did a few character designs for it, such as GT-era Pan and less-popular ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' (designing the RobotBuddy Gill. Gill and the teenage version of Pan). He also does work for video games, having designed Towa, a lot of the female demon antagonist of ''Dragon Ball Online'' content for ''VideoGame/DragonBallOnline'' (including the antagonists Towa and Mira and the ''VideoGame/DragonballXenoverse'' games, Time Patrol version of Future Trunks, ideas that would later turn up in ''VideoGame/DragonBallXenoverse'') as well as Android 21 #21 from ''[[VideoGame/DragonBallFighterz Dragon Ball FighterZ]]''.''VideoGame/DragonBallFighterz''.
26th Oct '17 5:32:57 PM Warwolf
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* Creator/JKRowling wrote two {{defictionalised}} books from the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' series; Quidditch Through The Ages and [[MonsterCompendium Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them]] for UsefulNotes/ComicRelief. She stated that they consisted of stuff from her own notes that she would never have space to use in the books/wrote for her own amusement.

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* Creator/JKRowling wrote two {{defictionalised}} books from the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' series; Quidditch Through The Ages and [[MonsterCompendium Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them]] for UsefulNotes/ComicRelief. She stated that they consisted of stuff from her own notes that she would never have space to use in the books/wrote for her own amusement. She later defictionalized ''The Tales Of Beedle The Bard''.
5th Oct '17 7:13:53 PM rjd1922
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* With the Human Torch [[ExiledFromContinuity caught up in a separate movie deal]], Creator/StanLee proposed that a RobotBuddy should replace him in the ''WesternAnimation/TheFantasticFour1978'' animated series. Though Dave Cockrum was originally commissioned to design it, the final design for H.E.R.B.I.E. came from Creator/JackKirby himself, the one who designed the original ComicBook/FantasticFour a decade prior. This didn't stop the poor robot from becoming the possible TropeCodifier for ReplacementScrappy.



* With the Human Torch [[ExiledFromContinuity caught up in a separate movie deal]], Creator/StanLee proposed that a RobotBuddy should replace him in the ''WesternAnimation/TheFantasticFour1978'' animated series. Though Dave Cockrum was originally commissioned to design it, the final design for H.E.R.B.I.E. came from Creator/JackKirby himself, the one who designed the original ComicBook/FantasticFour a decade prior. This didn't stop the poor robot from becoming the possible TropeCodifier for ReplacementScrappy.
18th Sep '17 1:01:42 PM superkeijikun
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* ''VideoGame/DragonballFighterZ'' has an OriginalGeneration character, Android 21, created by Creator/AkiraToriyama himself.
16th Sep '17 5:43:32 AM comicwriter
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* Several ''Manga/DragonBall'' anime filler characters were designed by Akira Toriyama, most notably Grand Kai (Dai Kaio), the hipster overseer of the four Kais who appears in the "Otherworld Tournament" arc. Though not heavily involved in the anime-only sequel ''Dragon Ball GT'', he also did a few character designs for it, such as GT-era Pan and the RobotBuddy Gill. He also designed Towa, the female demon antagonist of ''Dragon Ball Online'' and the ''VideoGame/DragonballXenoverse'' games, as well as Android 21 from ''VideoGame/DragonBallFighterz''.

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* Several ''Manga/DragonBall'' anime filler characters were designed by Akira Toriyama, most notably Grand Kai (Dai Kaio), the hipster overseer of the four Kais who appears in the "Otherworld Tournament" arc. Though not heavily involved in the anime-only sequel ''Dragon Ball GT'', he also did a few character designs for it, such as GT-era Pan and the RobotBuddy Gill. He also designed Towa, the female demon antagonist of ''Dragon Ball Online'' and the ''VideoGame/DragonballXenoverse'' games, as well as Android 21 from ''VideoGame/DragonBallFighterz''.''[[VideoGame/DragonBallFighterz Dragon Ball FighterZ]]''.
16th Sep '17 5:42:59 AM comicwriter
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* Several ''Manga/DragonBall'' anime filler characters were designed by Akira Toriyama, most notably Grand Kai (Dai Kaio), the hipster overseer of the four Kais who appears in the "Otherworld Tournament" arc. Though not heavily involved in the anime-only sequel ''Dragon Ball GT'', he also did a few character designs for it, such as GT-era Pan and the RobotBuddy Gill. He also designed Towa, the female demon antagonist of ''Dragon Ball Online'' and the ''VideoGame/DragonballXenoverse'' games.

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* Several ''Manga/DragonBall'' anime filler characters were designed by Akira Toriyama, most notably Grand Kai (Dai Kaio), the hipster overseer of the four Kais who appears in the "Otherworld Tournament" arc. Though not heavily involved in the anime-only sequel ''Dragon Ball GT'', he also did a few character designs for it, such as GT-era Pan and the RobotBuddy Gill. He also designed Towa, the female demon antagonist of ''Dragon Ball Online'' and the ''VideoGame/DragonballXenoverse'' games.games, as well as Android 21 from ''VideoGame/DragonBallFighterz''.
4th Sep '17 4:56:56 PM Bauglir100
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** ''VideoGame/QuakeChampions'' features a character named Galena, who--based on her bearing the Serpent Riders insignia on her armor--appears to have originated from the same universe as the ''VideoGame/{{Heretic}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Hexen}}'' games (which were published by ''Quake'' developer id Software). However, because of the [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld copyright disputes]] between id Software and Raven Software, it is unlikely she will be featured in any actual games in the series.

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** ''VideoGame/QuakeChampions'' features a character named Galena, who--based on her bearing the Serpent Riders insignia on her armor--appears to have originated from the same universe as the ''VideoGame/{{Heretic}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Hexen}}'' games (which were published by ''Quake'' developer id Software). However, because of the [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld copyright disputes]] between id Software and Raven Software, it is unlikely she will be featured ever make a proper debut in any actual games in the that series.
4th Sep '17 1:34:28 AM Bauglir100
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* The ''Quake'' series features a few of these:
** ''VideoGame/QuakeIIIArena'' introduces UAC Marines Phobos and Crash, the latter of whom was a mentor to [[VideoGame/{{Doom}} Doomguy]]. However, these characters have yet to appear in any installments of the ''Doom'' series proper.
** ''VideoGame/QuakeChampions'' features a character named Galena, who--based on her bearing the Serpent Riders insignia on her armor--appears to have originated from the same universe as the ''VideoGame/{{Heretic}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Hexen}}'' games (which were published by ''Quake'' developer id Software). However, because of the [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld copyright disputes]] between id Software and Raven Software, it is unlikely she will be featured in any actual games in the series.
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