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14th Jul '16 9:25:07 AM Willbyr
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* ''Anime/CodeGeass'' both [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] and subverts this trope. The ending results in the world being saved from hatred, malice and endless war...through the time-honored arts of lying, scapegoats and acceptable casualties. But not only was Lelouch himself intentionally playing the role of a VillainProtagonist by that point in the story, without trying to hide that [[ZeroApprovalGambit his actions would be classified as evil by history]], he also gets called out by Schneizel & co. for a couple of the ironies present in his plan.

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* ''Anime/CodeGeass'' both [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] {{lampshade|Hanging}}s and subverts this trope. The ending results in the world being saved from hatred, malice and endless war...through the time-honored arts of lying, scapegoats and acceptable casualties. But not only was Lelouch himself intentionally playing the role of a VillainProtagonist by that point in the story, without trying to hide that [[ZeroApprovalGambit his actions would be classified as evil by history]], he also gets called out by Schneizel & co. for a couple of the ironies present in his plan.



* One of the main points of ''{{Popotan}}'' is that the girls always have to [[TimeTravel travel through time]]. Mai, in particular, hates it because she can never settle for any lasting friendships. Eventually, upon finding who they're looking for, they're given the option to either continue or return to any time of their choice. But, even after deciding to go back to those they felt closest to, they're now unhappy about not being able to see ''each other'' anymore. Daichi even calls Ai out for abandoning her purpose in life, and encourages her to reunite with her sisters and continue the journey. Nevermind that leaving their families and retiring from even fulfilling jobs is exactly what most people do at certain points of their lives. Furthermore, Konami continually begs Mai to talk about the events leading her and her sisters to part, which she doesn't want to talk about, and the show basically supports her lack of respect for her wishes by having her give an anecdote to her when she finally does open up. The intended moral is about how people who part still have each other in their hearts, but it comes off as "Forget about happiness and just repeat an endless cycle to make others happy."

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* One of the main points of ''{{Popotan}}'' ''Popotan'' is that the girls always have to [[TimeTravel travel through time]]. Mai, in particular, hates it because she can never settle for any lasting friendships. Eventually, upon finding who they're looking for, they're given the option to either continue or return to any time of their choice. But, even after deciding to go back to those they felt closest to, they're now unhappy about not being able to see ''each other'' anymore. Daichi even calls Ai out for abandoning her purpose in life, and encourages her to reunite with her sisters and continue the journey. Nevermind that leaving their families and retiring from even fulfilling jobs is exactly what most people do at certain points of their lives. Furthermore, Konami continually begs Mai to talk about the events leading her and her sisters to part, which she doesn't want to talk about, and the show basically supports her lack of respect for her wishes by having her give an anecdote to her when she finally does open up. The intended moral is about how people who part still have each other in their hearts, but it comes off as "Forget about happiness and just repeat an endless cycle to make others happy."
9th Jul '16 6:11:50 PM MsChibi
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* Viewers of ''Series/SeventhHeaven'' are force-fed Christian morals like a baby. The version of UsefulNotes/Christianity was the vague, feel-good sort that could be described as 'spiritual masturbation.' You don't mention {{Jesus}} as anything more than a really hoopy dude, because people might feel ''bad'' and that would be terrible.

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* Viewers of ''Series/SeventhHeaven'' are force-fed Christian morals like a baby. The version of UsefulNotes/Christianity UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} was the vague, feel-good sort that could be described as 'spiritual masturbation.' You don't mention {{Jesus}} as anything more than a really hoopy dude, because people might feel ''bad'' and that would be terrible.
9th Jul '16 5:55:52 PM MsChibi
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* In the ''[[MarsAndVenusGenderContrast Venus and Mars]]'' books, there's a story about a knight who rescues a princess from a dragon, she marries him, and then gets attacked by another dragon, and tells the knight how to kill it, again and again until the knight rescues another princess who doesn't tell him what to do or how to do it. What the reader was ''supposed'' to take from this is that it's important for a man to be able to solve his own problems. What it ended up implying was that women need to be delicate and passive to protect their boyfriend/husband's ego, and that if he cheats, it's ''her'' fault for being too outspoken.

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* In the ''[[MarsAndVenusGenderContrast Venus and Mars]]'' books, there's a story about a knight who rescues a princess from a dragon, she marries him, and then gets attacked by another dragon, and tells the knight how to kill it, again and again until the knight rescues another princess who doesn't tell him what to do or how to do it. What the reader was ''supposed'' to take from this is that it's important for a man to be able to solve his own problems. What it ended up implying was that women need to be delicate and passive to protect their boyfriend/husband's ego, and that if he cheats, it's ''her'' fault for being too outspoken. It also introduces FridgeLogic: If the princess knows how to slay the dragon herself, why doesn't she at least try?
9th Jul '16 5:42:03 PM MsChibi
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* Viewers of ''Series/SeventhHeaven'' are force-fed Christian morals like a baby. The version of Christianity was the vague, feel-good sort that could be described as 'spiritual masturbation.' You don't mention Jesus as anything more than a really hoopy dude, because people might feel ''bad'' and that would be terrible.

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* Viewers of ''Series/SeventhHeaven'' are force-fed Christian morals like a baby. The version of Christianity UsefulNotes/Christianity was the vague, feel-good sort that could be described as 'spiritual masturbation.' You don't mention Jesus {{Jesus}} as anything more than a really hoopy dude, because people might feel ''bad'' and that would be terrible.
9th Jul '16 5:40:40 PM MsChibi
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** [[MenActWomenAre The book also depicts the Martians doing all the work of making and building things, and the Venusians as sitting around chit-chatting, reading girly magazines, and daydreaming. The Martians are hard-working, down to Earth (Mars?) guys, while the Venusians are childlike and delicate.]]
7th Jul '16 1:06:45 PM MsChibi
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In the ''[[MarsAndVenusGenderContrast Venus and Mars]]'' books, there's a story about a knight who rescues a princess from a dragon, she marries him, and then gets attacked by another dragon, and tells the knight how to kill it, again and again until the knight rescues another princess who doesn't tell him what to do or how to do it. What the reader was ''supposed'' to take from this is that it's important for a man to be able to solve his own problems. What it ended up implying was that women need to be delicate and passive to protect their boyfriend/husband's ego, and that if he cheats, it's ''her'' fault for being too outspoken.

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* In the ''[[MarsAndVenusGenderContrast Venus and Mars]]'' books, there's a story about a knight who rescues a princess from a dragon, she marries him, and then gets attacked by another dragon, and tells the knight how to kill it, again and again until the knight rescues another princess who doesn't tell him what to do or how to do it. What the reader was ''supposed'' to take from this is that it's important for a man to be able to solve his own problems. What it ended up implying was that women need to be delicate and passive to protect their boyfriend/husband's ego, and that if he cheats, it's ''her'' fault for being too outspoken.
7th Jul '16 1:06:31 PM MsChibi
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In the ''[[MarsAndVenusGenderContrast Venus and Mars]]'' books, there's a story about a knight who rescues a princess from a dragon, she marries him, and then gets attacked by another dragon, and tells the knight how to kill it, again and again until the knight rescues another princess who doesn't tell him what to do or how to do it. What the reader was ''supposed'' to take from this is that it's important for a man to be able to solve his own problems. What it ended up implying was that women need to be delicate and passive to protect their boyfriend/husband's ego, and that if he cheats, it's ''her'' fault for being too outspoken.
7th Jul '16 12:59:58 PM MsChibi
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* AllThatGlitters: A person learns that "money isn't everything," and goes on to live "the simple life" in a little shack far from civilization, but s/he would still need money to buy food, or to buy a decent mattress to sleep on, or to be able to reach out to the friends/family that s/he has just realized are so important.
7th Jul '16 12:47:37 AM Kenpachi_Ramasama
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* Scottish actress Louise Linton's book In Congo's Shadow received [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/people-are-calling-bullshit-on-this-memoir?utm_term=.gvxwAyJ7Y#.prEGbnE8y heavy criticism for this]]. To make long story short, Linton's portrayal of Zambia during 1990s are inaccurate as hell, filled with racist stereotypes, and suffers MightyWhitey trope to its core.
4th Jul '16 3:03:09 PM Chariset
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That said, a work can use one or even several of the above tropes without becoming Glurge. TropesAreTools. The hallmark of Glurge is a questionable message conveyed through an emotionally-manipulative delivery, meant to arouse the reader's anger, fear, guilt, disgust, sympathy, or some other strong emotion. A writer of Glurge hopes that your affective response his or her work incites will make the moral ring true (or at least stick in your mind) even when the story's facts don't withstand scrutiny or the logic falls apart when you poke it.

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That said, a work can use one or even several of the above tropes without becoming Glurge. TropesAreTools. The hallmark of Glurge is a questionable message conveyed through an emotionally-manipulative delivery, meant to arouse the reader's anger, fear, guilt, disgust, sympathy, or some other strong emotion. A writer of Glurge hopes that your affective response to his or her work incites will make the moral ring true (or at least stick in your mind) even when the story's facts don't withstand scrutiny or the logic falls apart when you poke it.
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