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28th Jan '16 6:31:14 PM Eddy1215
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Most of the time the leader is also a BadBoss, which can lead to WeHaveReserves. One wonders sometimes if the good guys are [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow secretly making sure]] the doofus on top stays there. General Failure is essentially the personification of FailureIsTheOnlyOption, and is the eventual destination of severe VillainDecay. He often bears similarities to TheNeidermeyer, but on a much higher scale. Compare ArmchairMilitary, MilesGloriosus, ModernMajorGeneral. PointyHairedBoss is a similar non-military trope.
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Most of the time the leader is also a BadBoss, which can lead to WeHaveReserves.WeHaveReserves and possibly MookDepletion. One wonders sometimes if the good guys are [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow secretly making sure]] the doofus on top stays there. General Failure is essentially the personification of FailureIsTheOnlyOption, and is the eventual destination of severe VillainDecay. He often bears similarities to TheNeidermeyer, but on a much higher scale. Compare ArmchairMilitary, MilesGloriosus, ModernMajorGeneral. PointyHairedBoss is a similar non-military trope.
15th Jan '16 9:10:12 AM freefall4242
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* Cobra Commander of GIJoe, at least in the cartoons. He's prone to overconfidence, often leading to his forces getting needlessly destroyed when a tactical retreat would've been more prudent, and then afterwards blaming everyone else before himself for his mistakes. His list of accomplishments includes being defeated by a group of schoolchildren in the DiC run.
13th Jan '16 3:23:09 AM livemike
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** Prince Dabulamanzi kaMpande then attacked Rorke's Drift, despite being told specifically not to attack prepared and fortified British positions. He got about 10% of his men killed and more wounded finding out why and the position wasn't even strategically significant.
28th Dec '15 12:39:54 PM Theokal3
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* Pretty much any member of the military who appears in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse except for Comicbook/NickFury is an idiot, but General Ross ''really'' takes the cake. His lifelong goal (some would say obsession) with bringing [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk the Hulk]] to justice has obviously [[LawfulStupid caused more casualties and property damage]] than he ever could have prevented, and cost the U.S. Army a fortune, all without results. And it only gets worse; Ross proves himself the worst hypocrite imaginable when he becomes the Comicbook/RedHulk, becoming just as much a menace as the one he tries to bring down.
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* Pretty much any member of the military who appears in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse except for Comicbook/NickFury is an idiot, but General Ross ''really'' takes the cake. His lifelong goal (some would say obsession) with bringing [[Comicbook/IncredibleHulk the Hulk]] to justice has obviously [[LawfulStupid caused more casualties and property damage]] than he ever could have prevented, and cost the U.S. Army a fortune, all without results. This probably has something to do with the fact he [[TooDumbToLive keeps insisting on]] [[BullyingTheDragon taking on the guy who turns into a giant, super-strong, bulletproof monster when under stress...]] [[ShootingSuperman by shooting him on sight]]. And it only gets worse; Ross proves himself the worst hypocrite imaginable when he becomes the Comicbook/RedHulk, becoming just as much a menace as the one he tries to bring down.
7th Dec '15 11:28:57 AM DeisTheAlcano
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* Despite being an extremely good [[TheChessMaster Chess Master]] who out-gambitted the BigBad of the series several times, [[TheNecromancer Kabuto Yakushi]] of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' has shown to be a General Failure throughout the WarArc. [[spoiler:Edo Tensei who should have ''steamrolled'' the opposition, such as Deidara or Sasori, are sacrificed extremely early on for stupid reasons and there isn't even a proper attempt in the manga to free Deidara after he's been captured. Sasori, despite being resurrected isn't even given his second scroll of puppets to fight with thus robbing him of his poison and his entire arsenal. Kinkaku and Ginkaku are sealed as well-given them their personalities was the worst choice that Kabuto could have done since they worked-as Kinkaku demonstrated, far better as pseudo-Jinchuriki berserkers. Hanzo the Salamander and Nagato, perhaps his second and third/fourth most powerful Edo Tensei are sealed-the latter given a pathetic performance since Kabuto doesn't even give him his normal field of vision. And despite having ''four Kages'', he loses all four consecutively. The only times when he plays it smart are with Zabuza and Haku, as well as [[BiggerBad Madara Uchiha]] which actually scores some wins.]]
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* Despite being an extremely good [[TheChessMaster Chess Master]] who out-gambitted the BigBad of the series several times, [[TheNecromancer Kabuto Yakushi]] of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' has shown to be a General Failure throughout the WarArc. [[spoiler:Edo Tensei who should have ''steamrolled'' the opposition, such as Deidara or Sasori, are sacrificed extremely early on for stupid reasons and there isn't even a proper attempt in the manga to free Deidara after he's been captured. Sasori, despite being resurrected isn't even given his second scroll of puppets to fight with thus robbing him of his poison and his entire arsenal. Kinkaku and Ginkaku are sealed as well-given them their personalities was the worst choice that Kabuto could have done since they worked-as Kinkaku demonstrated, far better as pseudo-Jinchuriki berserkers. Hanzo the Salamander and Nagato, perhaps his second and third/fourth most powerful Edo Tensei are sealed-the latter given a pathetic performance since Kabuto doesn't even give him his normal field of vision. And despite having ''four Kages'', he loses all four consecutively. The only times when he plays it smart are with Zabuza and Haku, as well as [[BiggerBad [[GreaterScopeVillain Madara Uchiha]] which actually scores some wins.]]
5th Dec '15 7:24:22 AM DeisTheAlcano
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* When he still had an army, Kratos from the ''Franchise/GodOfWar'' series. His primary method of spreading the glory of Sparta is by slaughtering cities, and ended up nearly dying and losing most of that army because he faced off against a numerically superior foe in open terrain, which is especially ironic given the primary source of Spartan combat fame. How does he save the day? [[DealWithTheDevil Selling his soul to Ares]] and letting the actual god of war win the fight for him.
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* When he still had an army, Kratos from the ''Franchise/GodOfWar'' series.''VideoGame/GodOfWarSeries''. His primary method of spreading the glory of Sparta is by slaughtering cities, and ended up nearly dying and losing most of that army because he faced off against a numerically superior foe in open terrain, which is especially ironic given the primary source of Spartan combat fame. How does he save the day? [[DealWithTheDevil Selling his soul to Ares]] and letting the actual god of war win the fight for him.
27th Nov '15 1:21:08 PM Ugolino
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*** Part of the problem is that the status quo of the setting (bar a few years where they moved it forward and retconned it back not long after) is "Abaddon has begun to attack the Cadian Gate with a colossal army." However, since StatusQuoIsGod, the setting refuses to actually show the intended outcome - namely, Abaddon's trillions of soldiers swamping the Cadian Gate and conquering it in short order. Therefore, Abaddon has been stuck in this early phase for most of the game's history, leaving fans with the impression that Abaddon has spent twenty-odd years failing to breach the defenses of one planet.
21st Nov '15 10:26:07 PM Vios
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* In ''Literature/StarksWar'', the army's officer corps contains almost nothing but. There ''are'' good officers, but they end up sidelined it's the ones who focus on political games and sucking up to their superiors who are rewarded, not the ones who actually do their jobs. And since officers rotate through positions so quickly (and can jump ship to cushy jobs with a MegaCorp if need be), they're never held to account for failure.
15th Nov '15 2:11:54 AM TARINunit9
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** Eldar Farseers. They have absolutely no understanding of military matters and guide their brethren relying only on future precognition. Whenever said prophecies are incorrect, interpreted incorrectly or simply based on chance[[note]]Farseer: Your chance of winning in 0.01%, mon'keigh. Space Marine: [[CurbStompBattle Never tell]] [[PlotArmor me the odds.]] [[/note]], things go south. Eldar are also known for ridiculously low win rate even in their own codex. Authors seems to notice this and now Eldar warhosts are more frequently led by Warlocks (seers that do have military training) or Autarchs with Farseer filling an adviser role. ** Pretty much the only races to not have any standout examples are the Tau and the Tyranids. Good for the Tau because given the tiny size of their empire compared to everyone else, this is presumably the only reason why it's lasted so long. Bad for everyone ''other'' than the Tyranids because... [[HordeOfAlienLocusts well, Tyranids]].
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** Eldar Farseers. They have absolutely no understanding of military matters and guide their brethren relying only on future precognition. Whenever said prophecies are incorrect, interpreted incorrectly or simply based on chance[[note]]Farseer: Your chance of winning in 0.01%, mon'keigh. Space Marine: [[CurbStompBattle Never tell]] [[PlotArmor me the odds.]] [[/note]], things go south. Eldar are also known for ridiculously low win rate even in their own codex. Authors seems to notice this and now Eldar warhosts are more frequently led by Warlocks (seers that do have military training) or Autarchs (actual generals) with Farseer filling an adviser role. ** Pretty much the only races to not have any standout examples are the Tau and the Tyranids.Tyranids (unless you count the Swarmlord, whose developed a stigma of "{{nerf}}ed into uselessness"). Good for the Tau because given the tiny size of their empire compared to everyone else, this is presumably the only reason why it's lasted so long. Bad for everyone ''other'' than the Tyranids because... [[HordeOfAlienLocusts well, Tyranids]].
12th Nov '15 1:10:19 PM Ugolino
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*** Abaddon's stats in the game actually support this interpretation, oddly. He's [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking an absolute BEAST in close-quarters combat]] and can kill pretty much anything outside of Apocalypse units in two turns tops. However, he also has pretty much nothing in the way of supporting his army, which is pretty abnormal for a commander character. This means that while Abaddon is a mighty warrior, he can't actually help his army win in any way other than killing lots of enemies.
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*** Abaddon's stats in the game actually support this interpretation, oddly. He's [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking an absolute BEAST in close-quarters combat]] and can kill pretty much anything outside of Apocalypse units in two turns tops. However, he also has pretty much nothing in the way of supporting his army, which is pretty abnormal for a commander character. This means that while Abaddon is a mighty warrior, he can't actually help his army win in any way other than killing lots of enemies.enemies with his own hands. Compare to his usual opposite number, [[FourStarBadass Creed]], who actually does get rather potent abilities to represent his prowess as a commander (including being able to hide [[HumongousMecha Warhound Titans]] behind bushes).
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