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18th Apr '18 10:12:19 PM dmcreif
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* In ''Series/TrueBlood'', the first few encounters between vampires and werewolves (starting with Bill and some weres in Season 3) are what we modern folk expect--seemingly standard FurAgainstFang encounters. [[spoiler:But then the situation is subverted, because all of the werewolves are under the control of a vampire, which is one of the first clues about his awesome level of power]]. It's still not clear whether the standard version of the trope would be in effect if not for that, but it seems to be implied, since [[spoiler:Edgington's control seems to be based on the vampire blood he's giving the wolves, which makes it like a drug addiction.]]

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* In ''Series/TrueBlood'', the first few encounters between vampires and werewolves (starting with Bill and some weres in Season 3) are what we modern folk expect--seemingly standard FurAgainstFang encounters. [[spoiler:But then the situation is subverted, because all of the werewolves are under the control of a vampire, which is one of the first clues about his Russell Edgington's awesome level of power]]. It's still not clear whether the standard version of the trope would be in effect if not for that, but it seems to be implied, since [[spoiler:Edgington's control seems to be based on the vampire blood he's giving the wolves, which makes it like a drug addiction.]]
9th Apr '18 9:23:08 AM DanaO
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** The blurb could be true if irrelevant, ''supported'' by the scarce representation of these two groups within the school: while most of the students are just trying to pass for human with varying success, some are trying to pass as members of "cooler" monster types (which is a ''lot'' easier when everybody's already supposed to be hiding their species). It wouldn't be odd if the school sometimes had unconvincing wannabe "vampire" and "werewolf" cliques in the background who ''[[InvokedTrope think]]'' they're supposed to be fighting each other, steering clear of the very rare known actual vampire or werewolf student.



* While mostly averted in ''Manga/DanceInTheVampireBund'', where werewolves are elite bodyguards for the vampiric royal lines, Mina forces her BodyguardCrush to fight her in a brutal hand to hand fight at the end of an early arc.

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* While mostly averted in ''Manga/DanceInTheVampireBund'', where werewolves are elite bodyguards for the vampiric royal lines, Mina forces her BodyguardCrush to fight her in a brutal hand to hand fight at the end of an early arc. And while in theory all werewolves, like all vampires, are loyal to the Tepes bloodline, this is a fairly recent condition with many remaining unburied grudges; while the entire species don't seem to have ever been at war there are a ''lot'' of clans and bloodlines rendered extinct within the last few centuries at each other's hands.



* One playable team in VideoGame/{{Touhou}} ''Imperishable Night'' includes the vampire [[YourVampiresSuck Remillia Scarlet]], and Keine Kamishirasawa (who is a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werehakutaku]]) is the stage 3 boss.

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* One playable team in VideoGame/{{Touhou}} ''Imperishable Night'' includes the vampire [[YourVampiresSuck Remillia Scarlet]], and Keine Kamishirasawa (who is a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werehakutaku]]) is the stage 3 boss. Keine's got more of an initial issue with Remilia's human partner, but Remilia ''loves'' to play the heel...



** Going back, in this setting weres and vampires ''may'' come from the same origin. Or not. Things get inconsistent once you go back before ''homo sapiens'', and it's unclear whether the indecision is in the author's mind, in-setting in historical record, or in-setting in the past actually becoming amorphous at that point.



* Vampires and werewolves in ''Literature/TheParasolProtectorate'' don't get along very well, but because the novels are set in Victorian England they tend to keep the matter private or [[PassiveAggressiveKombat fight their battles in a more civil way]]. Vampires, for example, have a lot of fun promoting fashion trends that the naturally scruffy (and often nude) werewolves find annoying.

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* Vampires and werewolves in ''Literature/TheParasolProtectorate'' don't get along very well, but because the novels are set in Victorian England they tend to keep the matter private or [[PassiveAggressiveKombat fight their battles in a more civil way]]. Vampires, for example, have a lot of fun promoting fashion trends that the naturally scruffy (and often nude) werewolves find annoying. Neither race can produce more of their kind either reliably or often, and there's a decent probability of mutual extinction if they actually did go to war. (And technology has given rise to far more interesting common enemies.)
26th Mar '18 4:55:01 PM Eddy1215
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* In an '''WesternAnimation/EquestriaGirls'' fanfic called ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/386278/you-call-that-a-costume You Call That A Costume?]]'' features Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy [[BecomingTheCostume being transformed into their Halloween costumes]] of a werewolf and a vampire bat. As to be expected, the two have a vicious clash upon catching sight of each other, [[spoiler:which ends with two [[SlapSlapKiss nuzzling each other]] [[InterspeciesRomance affectionately]]]].

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* In an '''WesternAnimation/EquestriaGirls'' ''WesternAnimation/EquestriaGirls'' fanfic called ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/386278/you-call-that-a-costume You Call That A Costume?]]'' features Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy [[BecomingTheCostume being transformed into their Halloween costumes]] of a werewolf and a vampire bat. As to be expected, the two have a vicious clash upon catching sight of each other, [[spoiler:which ends with two [[SlapSlapKiss nuzzling each other]] [[InterspeciesRomance affectionately]]]].
26th Mar '18 4:54:21 PM Eddy1215
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* In an '''WesternAnimation/EquestriaGirls'' fanfic called ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/386278/you-call-that-a-costume You Call That A Costume?]]'' features Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy [[BecomingTheCostume being transformed into their Halloween costumes]] of a werewolf and a vampire bat. As to be expected, the two have a vicious clash upon catching sight of each other, [[spoiler:which ends with two [[SlapSlapKiss nuzzling each other]] [[InterspeciesRomance affectionately]]]].
26th Mar '18 4:46:40 PM Eddy1215
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* In '''Podcast/TheAdventureZoneDust''', a major plot point is the [[FeudingFamilies feud]] between the Blackwell family (vampires) and the Mathis family (werewolves). However, this takes place in a town populated equally by humans, vampires, and werewolves, all of whom live more-or-less hospitably. The aforementioned feud is treated as more of a Hatfields-and-[=McCoys=] affair than anything racially-fueled.

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* In '''Podcast/TheAdventureZoneDust''', ''Podcast/TheAdventureZoneDust'', a major plot point is the [[FeudingFamilies feud]] between the Blackwell family (vampires) and the Mathis family (werewolves). However, this takes place in a town populated equally by humans, vampires, and werewolves, all of whom live more-or-less hospitably. The aforementioned feud is treated as more of a Hatfields-and-[=McCoys=] affair than anything racially-fueled.



26th Mar '18 3:39:25 PM DontKillBugs
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* In '''Podcast/TheAdventureZoneDust''', a major plot point is the [[FeudingFamilies feud]] between the Blackwell family (vampires) and the Mathis family (werewolves). However, this takes place in a town populated equally by humans, vampires, and werewolves, all of whom live more-or-less hospitably. The aforementioned feud is treated as more of a Hatfields-and-[=McCoys=] affair than anything racially-fueled.
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22nd Mar '18 8:37:46 AM Chabal2
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* ''ComicBook/RequiemVampireKnight'': The vampires and werewolves are hostile towards each other, but that's because ALL supernatural races are such in Resurrection. They're just as likely (probably even moreso) to punch in the face of a zombie or ghoul, which are lower on the general food chain than they are. Interestingly, vampires are the reincarnation of people who knowingly committed acts of evil for their own gratification. Werewolves are the reincarnation of people who did evil in the name of good. Lady Claudia Demona even uses a mind-controlled Torquemada (the biggest werewolf on the planet) as a sex toy.

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* ''ComicBook/RequiemVampireKnight'': The vampires and werewolves are hostile towards each other, but that's because ALL supernatural races are such that way in Resurrection. They're just as likely (probably even moreso) to punch in the face of a zombie or ghoul, which are lower on the general food chain than they are. Interestingly, vampires are the reincarnation of people who knowingly committed acts of evil for their own gratification. Werewolves are the reincarnation of people who did evil in the name of good. Lady Claudia Demona even uses a mind-controlled Torquemada (the biggest werewolf on the planet) as a sex toy.


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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K'', where the vampires and werewolves are allies, or at least both on the side of good. The Blood Angels are a SpaceMarine chapter with a tendency to fall into a berserk rage in combat as they relive the final moments of the primarch Sanguinius, while the Space Wolves are space Vikings whose geneseed causes them to develop wolf-like characteristics such as yellow eyes and longer teeth (and some of them mutate into Wulfen, but by that point they usually turn evil).
19th Mar '18 3:08:23 AM Dravencour
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* ''ComicBook/RequiemVampireKnight'': The vampires and werewolves are hostile towards each other, but that's because ALL supernatural races are in Resurection. They're just as likely (probably even moreso) to punch in the face of a zombie or ghoul. Interestingly, vampires are the reincarnation of people who knowingly committed acts of evil for their own gratification. Werewolves are the reincarnation of people who did evil in the name of good. Claudia Demona even uses a mind-controlled Torquemada (the biggest werewolf on the planet) as a sex toy.

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* ''ComicBook/RequiemVampireKnight'': The vampires and werewolves are hostile towards each other, but that's because ALL supernatural races are such in Resurection. Resurrection. They're just as likely (probably even moreso) to punch in the face of a zombie or ghoul.ghoul, which are lower on the general food chain than they are. Interestingly, vampires are the reincarnation of people who knowingly committed acts of evil for their own gratification. Werewolves are the reincarnation of people who did evil in the name of good. Lady Claudia Demona even uses a mind-controlled Torquemada (the biggest werewolf on the planet) as a sex toy.
13th Mar '18 2:57:58 PM MisterDrBob2
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* Parodied in ''Film/WhatWeDoInTheShadows'' with the gang of werewolves the vampires encounter being quick to jump at the slightest insult, and vice versa. [[spoiler: They're friends by the end.]]
4th Feb '18 5:39:27 AM Voreep
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* The ''Monster Management'' series on Website/{{Cracked}}.com has a very silly comedic example. A chatty old Dracula and a young {{hipster}} werewolf are stuck in the waiting room. Dracula tries to engage in some friendly conversation about pop culture when the werewolf clearly just wants his book. Dracula becomes frustrated with the werewolf's lack of interest in pop culture and this conversation. So he decides not to talk to him anymore. But they later find some common ground when talking about Website/{{Facebook}} and how it sucks that keep changing every 5 minutes.

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* The ''Monster Management'' series on Website/{{Cracked}}.com has a very silly comedic example. A chatty old Dracula and a young {{hipster}} werewolf are stuck in the waiting room. Dracula tries to engage in some friendly conversation about pop culture when the werewolf clearly just wants his book. Dracula becomes frustrated with the werewolf's lack of interest in pop culture and this conversation. So he decides not to talk to him anymore. But they later find some common ground when talking about Website/{{Facebook}} and how it sucks that keep it keeps changing every 5 minutes.


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* Subverted in ''Super Werewolf'', vampires and werewolves are only portrayed as rivals within in universe pop culture, whereas they are often brought together as teammates by monster tamers in order to fight monster slayers as a common foe. A few werewolves continue to bring up society's view that vampires should be treated as enemies rather than allies, but this is portrayed as a sign of their arrogance temporarily getting in the way of their logical thinking. Also, one of the werewolves has a sister who is a vampire, implying that the groups aren't even as distinct as others in their society might think they are.
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